History Fridge / TheConversionBureauTheOtherSideOfTheSpectrum

2nd Dec '16 2:38:07 PM KizunaTallis
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** Addressed in Chapter 15, "War March and Past Sins", [[spoiler:the human converts' souls are shattered and bound in chains to Queen Celestia's will. There is no cure for this either; only [[MercyKill death will make their souls whole again and set them free]]. Which means that after the war, soldiers — and possibly even civilians pressed into service — will be forced to kill newfoals en masse (and that's only if the newfoals don't just drop dead once Tirek is neutralized)]]. The [[HeroicBSOD aft]][[MyGodWhatHaveIDone er]][[{{Tearjerker}} ma]][[DrivenToSuicide th]] will '''not''' be pretty.

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** Addressed in Chapter 15, "War March and Past Sins", [[spoiler:the human converts' souls are shattered and bound in chains to Queen Celestia's will. There is no cure for this either; only [[MercyKill death will make their souls whole again and set them free]]. Which means that after the war, soldiers — and possibly even civilians pressed into service — will be forced to kill newfoals en masse (and that's only if the newfoals don't just drop dead once Tirek is neutralized)]]. The [[HeroicBSOD aft]][[MyGodWhatHaveIDone er]][[{{Tearjerker}} ma]][[DrivenToSuicide th]] aftermath will '''not''' be pretty.



** [[AscendedFridgeHorror Addressed]] in the chapter "Training Days Part 1", with a Canon!Royal Guard agreeing with Catseye's views and getting discharged as a result. [[WordOfGod And according to]] [[http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/371720/okay-maybe-a-few-spoilers-but-theyre-very-minor-things Kizuna Tallis]], Catseye and those that agree with her views will play a big role in the story arc as minor villains.

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** [[AscendedFridgeHorror Addressed]] in the chapter "Training Days Part 1", with a Canon!Royal Guard agreeing with Catseye's views and getting discharged as a result. [[WordOfGod And according to]] [[http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/371720/okay-maybe-a-few-spoilers-but-theyre-very-minor-things Kizuna Tallis]], Catseye and those that agree with her views will play They create a big role movement of anti-human ponies who prove to be quite a thorn in the story arc as minor villains.PHL's side.



*** It's also confirmed that several other "fictional characters" like [[spoiler: [[Series/{{Sherlock}} Sherlock Holmes]] and [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]]]] exist, so it's best to say that the ''Spectrum'' universe operates under MegaCrossover rules rather than the source material's.

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*** It's also confirmed that several other "fictional characters" like [[spoiler: [[Series/{{Sherlock}} Sherlock Holmes]] and [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]]]] exist, are living beings, so it's best to say that the ''Spectrum'' universe operates under a mix of LikeRealityUnlessNoted and MegaCrossover rules rather than the source material's.
23rd Nov '16 11:15:57 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Presumably? Maybe they're GenreSavvy enough to know someone might just pull a miracle out of their ass to destroy the barrier and defeat TCB!Equestria after all and are simply investing.

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** Presumably? Maybe they're GenreSavvy savvy enough to know someone might just pull a miracle out of their ass to destroy the barrier and defeat TCB!Equestria after all and are simply investing.
17th Dec '15 11:57:47 AM FF32
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* With the existence of other universes confirmed thanks to the Queen [[spoiler: and Discord]], you can't help but wonder just [[TheDraka what]] [[{{Videogame/Resistance}} else]] [[{{Videogame/Half-Life}} is]] [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} out]] [[{{SCPFOUNDATION}} there]] [[ParanoiaFuel just waiting to finish off whoever is left standing after the war.]] Be it [[KickTheDog humanity]] ''or'' [[EvilVersusEvil the Solar Empire]].

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* With the existence of other universes confirmed thanks to the Queen [[spoiler: and Discord]], you can't help but wonder just [[TheDraka what]] [[{{Videogame/Resistance}} else]] [[{{Videogame/Half-Life}} is]] [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} out]] [[{{SCPFOUNDATION}} [[Wiki/{{SCPFOUNDATION}} there]] [[ParanoiaFuel just waiting to finish off whoever is left standing after the war.]] Be it [[KickTheDog humanity]] ''or'' [[EvilVersusEvil the Solar Empire]].
21st Oct '15 8:21:27 AM KizunaTallis
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** Also given a nod of acknowledgment in ''Last Train'' when TCB!Coco Pommel shares her own fears that such a thing could be made to cull unrest with any pony deemed "unruly" enough.

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** Also given a nod of acknowledgment in the ''Last Train'' chapter "The Double Hook", when TCB!Coco Pommel shares her own fears that such a thing could be made to cull unrest with any pony deemed "unruly" enough.enough. And then it becomes AscendedFridgeHorror when [[spoiler:Nepenthe is able to channel the ponification spell through a tiara to turn natural-born pony Diamond-Mint Jewelup into a Pretty Private as well]].



*** It's also confirmed that several other "fictional characters" like [[spoiler: [[Series/{{Sherlock}} Sherlock Holmes]] and [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]]]] exist, so the universe operates under MegaCrossover rules rather than the source material's.

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*** It's also confirmed that several other "fictional characters" like [[spoiler: [[Series/{{Sherlock}} Sherlock Holmes]] and [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]]]] exist, so it's best to say that the ''Spectrum'' universe operates under MegaCrossover rules rather than the source material's.



** In the Asia side-story, a scene features an HLF man's hazmat suit getting torn to pieces by unicorn magic before he gets potioned.

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** In the Asia side-story, a scene features an HLF man's hazmat suit getting torn to pieces by unicorn magic before he gets potioned. Also, it just might not be practical.
1st Oct '15 12:16:40 PM KizunaTallis
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** Addressed in Chapter 15, "War March and Past Sins", [[spoiler:the human converts' souls are shattered and bound in chains to Queen Celestia's will. There is no cure for this either; only [[MercyKill death will make their souls whole again and set them free]]. Which means that after the war, soldiers — and possibly even civilians pressed into service — will be forced to kill newfoals en masse.]] The [[HeroicBSOD aft]][[MyGodWhatHaveIDone er]][[{{Tearjerker}} ma]][[DrivenToSuicide th]] will '''not''' be pretty.

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** Addressed in Chapter 15, "War March and Past Sins", [[spoiler:the human converts' souls are shattered and bound in chains to Queen Celestia's will. There is no cure for this either; only [[MercyKill death will make their souls whole again and set them free]]. Which means that after the war, soldiers — and possibly even civilians pressed into service — will be forced to kill newfoals en masse.]] masse (and that's only if the newfoals don't just drop dead once Tirek is neutralized)]]. The [[HeroicBSOD aft]][[MyGodWhatHaveIDone er]][[{{Tearjerker}} ma]][[DrivenToSuicide th]] will '''not''' be pretty.



** Further [[AscendedFridgeHorror elaborated on]] in ''The Light Despondent'' in which reports made by PHL spies note that primates closely related to humans and more intelligent (though unspecified) sea mammals are also killed by the Barrier. More mentions are made of Equestrian colonists slaughtering predatory and "unruly" wildlife, with "safaris" consisting of ''thousands'' of ponies participating in mass extermination.

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** Further [[AscendedFridgeHorror elaborated on]] in ''The Light Despondent'' in which reports made by PHL spies note that primates closely related to humans and more intelligent (though unspecified) sea mammals are also killed by the Barrier. More mentions are made of Equestrian colonists slaughtering predatory and "unruly" wildlife, with "safaris" consisting of ''thousands'' of ponies participating in mass extermination.extermination campaigns.



-->[[spoiler:"Possession magic like this erodes the victim’s identity away over time. Your counterparts might be able to distinguish between themselves and their tormentors despite their connections, but as for Celestia... well, I'm willing to bet there's nothing left of her original self anymore. It's whittled her best traits to nothing - a need for order without empathy and motherly love, commanding without concern for morality, desire to better her realm with no concern for what she has to do]]."

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-->[[spoiler:"Possession magic like this erodes the victim’s victim's identity away over time. Your counterparts might be able to distinguish between themselves and their tormentors despite their connections, but as for Celestia... well, I'm willing to bet there's nothing left of her original self anymore. It's whittled her best traits to nothing - a need for order without empathy and motherly love, commanding without concern for morality, desire to better her realm with no concern for what she has to do]]."



*** Jossed: He's revealed to be a member of The Equestrian Resistance.



** Also given a nod of acknowledgment in ''Last Train'' when TCB!Coco Pommel shares her own fears that such a thing could be made to cull unrest with any pony deemed "unruly" enough.



** The real question is, if the human world is the same as the one from GTA V, then shouldn't New York City be Liberty City from IV, at the very least? And the human city be New Liberty City?

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** The real question is, if the human world is the same as the one from GTA V, then shouldn't New York City be Liberty City from IV, at the very least? And the recreated human city in Equestria be New Liberty City?City?
*** It's also confirmed that several other "fictional characters" like [[spoiler: [[Series/{{Sherlock}} Sherlock Holmes]] and [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]]]] exist, so the universe operates under MegaCrossover rules rather than the source material's.
10th Aug '15 12:40:21 AM biznizz
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** The real question is, if the human world is the same as the one from GTA V, then shouldn't New York City be Liberty City from IV, at the very least? And the human city be New Liberty City?
13th Jun '15 8:14:25 AM Willbyr
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* This may be a bit of a stretch, but remember [[Quotes/TheConversionBureau that citation on the quotes page for ''The Conversion Bureau'']] which suggested that the world of TheDraka (itself often considered one of the few things worse than anything found in ''Warhammer40K'', horrific afterlife notwithstanding) would still be preferable to that of a typical TCB setting? Well, let's take this one step further by comparing it to the universe of Creator/PeterWatts's ''Literature/{{Blindsight}}'', possibly the most depressing science-fiction novel ever written. (The fact that the book opens with the dedication "If we are not in pain, we are not alive" says a lot about the author's worldview.) In a CosmicHorrorStory where a crew of transhuman astronauts are sent to make FirstContact with an alien vessel, you expect a message about humanity being ill-suited to survive in the black gulf of space, but here, it isn't for the reasons you'd think:

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* This may be a bit of a stretch, but remember [[Quotes/TheConversionBureau that citation on the quotes page for ''The Conversion Bureau'']] which suggested that the world of TheDraka (itself often considered one of the few things worse than anything found in ''Warhammer40K'', ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', horrific afterlife notwithstanding) would still be preferable to that of a typical TCB setting? Well, let's take this one step further by comparing it to the universe of Creator/PeterWatts's ''Literature/{{Blindsight}}'', possibly the most depressing science-fiction novel ever written. (The fact that the book opens with the dedication "If we are not in pain, we are not alive" says a lot about the author's worldview.) In a CosmicHorrorStory where a crew of transhuman astronauts are sent to make FirstContact with an alien vessel, you expect a message about humanity being ill-suited to survive in the black gulf of space, but here, it isn't for the reasons you'd think:



* With the existence of other universes confirmed thanks to the Queen [[spoiler: and Discord]], you can't help but wonder just [[TheDraka what]] [[{{Videogame/Resistance}} else]] [[{{Videogame/Half-Life}} is]] [[Warhammer40K out]] [[{{SCPFOUNDATION}} there]] [[ParanoiaFuel just waiting to finish off whoever is left standing after the war.]] Be it [[KickTheDog humanity]] ''or'' [[EvilVersusEvil the Solar Empire]].

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* With the existence of other universes confirmed thanks to the Queen [[spoiler: and Discord]], you can't help but wonder just [[TheDraka what]] [[{{Videogame/Resistance}} else]] [[{{Videogame/Half-Life}} is]] [[Warhammer40K [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} out]] [[{{SCPFOUNDATION}} there]] [[ParanoiaFuel just waiting to finish off whoever is left standing after the war.]] Be it [[KickTheDog humanity]] ''or'' [[EvilVersusEvil the Solar Empire]].
21st Mar '15 3:53:56 PM DialgaX
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\n** It's possible that the earlier versions of the potions required ingestion to be effective. But even then, it seems to be a psychological warfare tactic to disturb their opponents.

17th Mar '15 9:38:32 PM CrowTR0bot
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\n* Why do Imperial ponies and PER ever bother force-feeding potion to potential victims when a single drop to the skin is all that's needed?

8th Mar '15 10:55:43 PM CrowTR0bot
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* A bit milder than most examples listed here, but with a bit of trickery, Queen Celestia tricked humans into thinking magic was toxic for them even if it wasn't used offensively. As a result, you can imagine how much research into {{Magitek}} was stunted simply from what turned out to be entirely unnecessary safety procedures, or how many life-saving medical spells went unused simply due to misinformation.
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