History Fridge / TheConversionBureauTheOtherSideOfTheSpectrum

* TCB!Twilight Sparkle was married to Stalwart Heart, Marcus' ponified brother. TCB!Rainbow Dash is also rumored to be in a relationship with Lightning Dust. [[spoiler: And now it's known that not a one of the Elements of Harmony has had any control over their actions in a long, long time. Since things [[ForWantOfANail in TCB!Equestria played out very differently from canon]], TCB!Rainbow Dash is watching herself having sex with a pony she likely doesn't even know. TCB!Twilight was forced to live out encounters with her newfoal "husband," while knowing [[BodyHorror what]] [[TestedOnHumans it took]] [[ANaziByAnyOtherName to personally create]] the potion that turned Jacob Renee into a perpetually smiling doormat that sings her praises everyday. The dark personalities implanted in their minds have ruled the girls' bodies, actions and words for years, [[QuestionableConsent thus just about every sexual encounter any of the TCB!Mane Six have had is completely without consent]]. A minimum of two of the TCB!Mane Six have been regularly subject to rape]].

* [[ForWantOfANail Just what if someone else was sent to Canon!Equestria instead of Marcus?]] Of course, it could have someone somewhat more levelheaded than him, such as Stephan. Or it could have been [[AxCrazy Kraber]]... good Lord, now ''that'' [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge would be a bloodbath]].

* According to Spykoran, [[spoiler: the Bag of Tirek is carrying out its maker's will by enacting [[DisproportionateRetribution revenge against]] ''the entire human race'' for Megan defeating them]]. Meanwhile, Marcus states [[spoiler: that Megan (his mother) never even mentioned going to Dream Valley. And since Discord also has stated that there are numerous alternate worlds out there [[ForWantOfANail of various possibilities]], it is possible that the Megan Marcus knows never went to Dream Valley in the first place. Could their [[MisplacedRetribution revenge be misaimed]]? Regardless, it's still utterly frightening to think what the Bag could be thinking (since it's sentient and all)]].

* For those who've seen ''Film/PacificRim'' — remember how Guillermo Del Toro actually [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome addressed the societal implications]] of what happens if much of the world (i.e in the film's case, coastal regions at the Pacific Ocean) becomes uninhabitable? For example, simple things like bread are seen as a luxury, people are willing to work dangerous jobs for food rations, and there's an implied social divide between the wealthy and the rest of society with the rich getting special treatment in the wake of the monster attacks. Now, think about it in the context of this story far — the Barrier has wiped out Europe and is near Maine. ''Just how much of the world is uninhabitable or unable to produce food and other commodities''? How would all the WarRefugees survive in the Americas, the Pacific, and Australia (and anywhere else the barrier hasn't reached)? How malnourished are the survivors? What effect would this have on the economy? Is there even an economy? How do people actually produce basic necessities to live? Dear God, being a refugee on this Earth must suck worse than almost any period in recent history...

* With the existence of other universes confirmed thanks to the Queen [[spoiler: and Discord]], you can't help but wonder just [[Literature/TheDraka what]] [[{{VideoGame/Resistance}} else]] [[VideoGame/HalfLife is]] [[TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 out]] [[Wiki/SCPFoundation there]] [[ParanoiaFuel just waiting to finish off whoever is left standing after the war.]] Be it [[KickTheDog humanity]] ''or'' [[EvilVersusEvil the Solar Empire]].

* [[ForWantOfANail Just what if someone else was sent to Canon!Equestria instead of Marcus?]] Of course, it could have someone somewhat more levelheaded than him, such as Stephan. Or it could have been [[AxCrazy Kraber]]... good Lord, [[KillEmAll now ''that'']] [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge would be a bloodbath]].

* Oh, it's even worse than that: It's vaguely implied by TCB!Trixie in "The Answer, Part 1" that besides [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant ev]][[StepfordSmiler er]][[UncannyValley y]][[TranshumanTreachery th]][[CreepyChild in]][[BrainwashedAndCrazy g]] else we know about the Newfoals, there's something else wrong with them, on a deep fundamental level, that's somehow related to their inability to receive Cutie Marks... and '''it's spreading'''. Equestria may look unstoppable to the humans, but it's possible there's something dreadfully wrong with the native magic of the land, if Granny Smith's [[NightmareFuel nightmarish description]] of TCB!Equestria in "The Writes of Passage" is of any indication. [[spoiler: Or could the lack of cutie marks be Celestia's (and the Bag of Tirek's) fault, thanks to her horrible brainwashing of all of Equestria? A Cutie Mark is supposed to be a representation of someone's true self and talents... and what could the MindRape do but suppress the ability of native Equestrians to be themselves?]]

* Oh, it's even worse than that: It's vaguely implied by TCB!Trixie in "The Answer, Part 1" that besides [[NightmareFuelStationAttendant ev]][[StepfordSmiler er]][[UncannyValley y]][[TranshumanTreachery th]][[CreepyChild in]][[BrainwashedAndCrazy g]] else we know about the Newfoals, there's [[UpToEleven something else wrong with them, on a deep fundamental level, that's somehow related to their inability to receive Cutie Marks]]... and '''it's spreading'''. Equestria may look unstoppable to the humans, but it's possible there's something dreadfully wrong with the native magic of the land, if Granny Smith's [[NightmareFuel nightmarish description]] of TCB!Equestria in "The Writes of Passage" is of any indication. [[spoiler: Or could the lack of cutie marks be Celestia's (and the Bag of Tirek's) fault, thanks to her horrible brainwashing of all of Equestria? A Cutie Mark is supposed to be a representation of someone's true self and talents... and what could the MindRape do but suppress the ability of native Equestrians to be themselves?]]

* According to Spykoran, [[spoiler: the Bag of Tirek is carrying out its maker's will by enacting [[DisproportionateRetribution revenge against]] ''[[UpToEleven the entire human race]]'' for Megan defeating them]]. Meanwhile, Marcus states [[spoiler: that Megan (his mother) never even mentioned going to Dream Valley. And since Discord also has stated that there are numerous alternate worlds out there [[ForWantOfANail of various possibilities]], it is possible that the Megan Marcus knows never went to Dream Valley in the first place. Could their [[MisplacedRetribution revenge be misaimed]]? Regardless, it's still utterly frightening to think what the Bag could be thinking (since it's sentient and all)]].

** And in case you already couldn't guess from the description above, [[spoiler: since Jacob/Stalwart Heart was brainwashed by the potion as well, this means he and TCB!Twilight were effectively raping ''[[UpToEleven each other]]'']].

* For those who've seen ''Film/PacificRim'' — remember how Guillermo Del Toro actually [[RealityEnsues addressed the societal implications]] of what happens if much of the world (i.e in the film's case, coastal regions at the Pacific Ocean) becomes uninhabitable? For example, simple things like bread are seen as a luxury, people are willing to work dangerous jobs for food rations, and there's an implied social divide between the wealthy and the rest of society with the rich getting special treatment in the wake of the monster attacks. Now, think about it in the context of this story far — the Barrier has wiped out Europe and is near Maine. ''Just how much of the world is uninhabitable or unable to produce food and other commodities''? How would all the WarRefugees survive in the Americas, the Pacific, and Australia (and anywhere else the barrier hasn't reached)? How malnourished are the survivors? What effect would this have on the economy? Is there even an economy? How do people actually produce basic necessities to live? Dear God, being a refugee on this Earth must suck worse than almost any period in recent history...

* Considering the Scribe watches over and learns from the memories of every pony in existence, it makes sense that [[spoiler: in contrast to Celestia and Luna, Discord is the only one of Faust's creations not to be pony-like. If he's an embodiment of Chaos, he should be unpredictable to everyone including her]].

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* This may be a bit of a stretch, but remember [[Quotes/TheConversionBureau that citation on the quotes page for ''The Conversion Bureau'']] which suggested that the world of TheDraka (itself often considered one of the few things worse than anything found in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', horrific afterlife notwithstanding) would still be preferable to that of a typical TCB setting? Well, let's take this one step further by comparing it to the universe of Creator/PeterWatts's ''Literature/{{Blindsight}}'', possibly the most depressing science-fiction novel ever written. (The fact that the book opens with the dedication "If we are not in pain, we are not alive" says a lot about the author's worldview.) In a CosmicHorrorStory where a crew of transhuman astronauts are sent to make FirstContact with an alien vessel, you expect a message about humanity being ill-suited to survive in the black gulf of space, but here, it isn't for the reasons you'd think:

* With the existence of other universes confirmed thanks to the Queen [[spoiler: and Discord]], you can't help but wonder just [[TheDraka what]] [[{{Videogame/Resistance}} else]] [[{{Videogame/HalfLife}} is]] [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} out]] [[Wiki/{{SCPFOUNDATION}} there]] [[ParanoiaFuel just waiting to finish off whoever is left standing after the war.]] Be it [[KickTheDog humanity]] ''or'' [[EvilVersusEvil the Solar Empire]].

* With the existence of other universes confirmed thanks to the Queen [[spoiler: and Discord]], you can't help but wonder just [[TheDraka what]] [[{{Videogame/Resistance}} else]] [[{{Videogame/Half-Life}} is]] [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} out]] [[Wiki/{{SCPFOUNDATION}} there]] [[ParanoiaFuel just waiting to finish off whoever is left standing after the war.]] Be it [[KickTheDog humanity]] ''or'' [[EvilVersusEvil the Solar Empire]].

* It's a little creepy that the lyrics to the song "[[http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Bats_%28song%29 Bats]]" from [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E7Bats the song's namesake episode]] can be adapted into a TCB!Equestria wartime song (like the ones made during WorldWarII) explaining why the Humans need to be wiped out.

** Addressed in Chapter 15, "War March and Past Sins", [[spoiler:the human converts' souls are shattered and bound in chains to Queen Celestia's will. There is no cure for this either; only [[MercyKill death will make their souls whole again and set them free]]. Which means that after the war, soldiers — and possibly even civilians pressed into service — will be forced to kill newfoals en masse (and that's only if the newfoals don't just drop dead once Tirek is neutralized)]]. The [[HeroicBSOD aft]][[MyGodWhatHaveIDone er]][[{{Tearjerker}} ma]][[DrivenToSuicide th]] will '''not''' be pretty.

** [[AscendedFridgeHorror Addressed]] in the chapter "Training Days Part 1", with a Canon!Royal Guard agreeing with Catseye's views and getting discharged as a result. [[WordOfGod And according to]] [[http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/371720/okay-maybe-a-few-spoilers-but-theyre-very-minor-things Kizuna Tallis]], Catseye and those that agree with her views will play a big role in the story arc as minor villains.

*** It's also confirmed that several other "fictional characters" like [[spoiler: [[Series/{{Sherlock}} Sherlock Holmes]] and [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]]]] exist, so it's best to say that the ''Spectrum'' universe operates under MegaCrossover rules rather than the source material's.

** Presumably? Maybe they're GenreSavvy enough to know someone might just pull a miracle out of their ass to destroy the barrier and defeat TCB!Equestria after all and are simply investing.

* With the existence of other universes confirmed thanks to the Queen [[spoiler: and Discord]], you can't help but wonder just [[TheDraka what]] [[{{Videogame/Resistance}} else]] [[{{Videogame/Half-Life}} is]] [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} out]] [[{{SCPFOUNDATION}} there]] [[ParanoiaFuel just waiting to finish off whoever is left standing after the war.]] Be it [[KickTheDog humanity]] ''or'' [[EvilVersusEvil the Solar Empire]].

** Also given a nod of acknowledgment in ''Last Train'' when TCB!Coco Pommel shares her own fears that such a thing could be made to cull unrest with any pony deemed "unruly" enough.

*** It's also confirmed that several other "fictional characters" like [[spoiler: [[Series/{{Sherlock}} Sherlock Holmes]] and [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]]]] exist, so the universe operates under MegaCrossover rules rather than the source material's.

** In the Asia side-story, a scene features an HLF man's hazmat suit getting torn to pieces by unicorn magic before he gets potioned.

** Addressed in Chapter 15, "War March and Past Sins", [[spoiler:the human converts' souls are shattered and bound in chains to Queen Celestia's will. There is no cure for this either; only [[MercyKill death will make their souls whole again and set them free]]. Which means that after the war, soldiers — and possibly even civilians pressed into service — will be forced to kill newfoals en masse.]] The [[HeroicBSOD aft]][[MyGodWhatHaveIDone er]][[{{Tearjerker}} ma]][[DrivenToSuicide th]] will '''not''' be pretty.

** Further [[AscendedFridgeHorror elaborated on]] in ''The Light Despondent'' in which reports made by PHL spies note that primates closely related to humans and more intelligent (though unspecified) sea mammals are also killed by the Barrier. More mentions are made of Equestrian colonists slaughtering predatory and "unruly" wildlife, with "safaris" consisting of ''thousands'' of ponies participating in mass extermination.

-->[[spoiler:"Possession magic like this erodes the victim’s identity away over time. Your counterparts might be able to distinguish between themselves and their tormentors despite their connections, but as for Celestia... well, I'm willing to bet there's nothing left of her original self anymore. It's whittled her best traits to nothing - a need for order without empathy and motherly love, commanding without concern for morality, desire to better her realm with no concern for what she has to do]]."

** The real question is, if the human world is the same as the one from GTA V, then shouldn't New York City be Liberty City from IV, at the very least? And the human city be New Liberty City?