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** Well, a [[KarmicDeath Karmic]] DisneyVillainDeath. The alligators snapping at her counts as TheDogBitesBack since she was abusive against them as well. And as Medusa was shown to a murderous sociopath who cruelly tore at an orphan girl's emotions, I can't feel ''too'' bad about it.

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** Well, a [[KarmicDeath Karmic]] DisneyVillainDeath. The alligators snapping at her counts as TheDogBitesBack since she was abusive against them as well. And as Medusa was shown to be a murderous sociopath who cruelly tore at an orphan girl's girl\'s emotions, I can't can\'t feel ''too'' \'\'too\'\' bad about it.



* We can hope that Penny was the ''first'' orphan Medusa abducted and sent into mortal peril, but we don't ''know'' it. Likewise, although it's not spelled out, it would have been unwise to let Penny tell anybody what was going on in the Bayou, and fairly simple (what with the easy access to shotguns and crocodiles) for Medusa to see to it that she told no tales.
* Cody leaves the room with the trapped, sentient, ''talking'' animals, with [=McLeach=] telling him he won't ever see them again. We never see anything that contradicts the obvious implication that he slaughtered them all.
** Well, it did seem like [=McLeach=] immediately tricked Cody into leading him to the Eagle, then tried to kill him, leading directly to [=McLeach=]'s own death. All of this appeared to happen in sequence with no time to go back and kill and skin the animals for sale. There again, though, it raises the question of what happened to the chained up animals. All the characters seemed to just forget they existed. That would mean that they all slowly starved and dehydrated to death. Or worse, if Joanna, who appears to be a Lace Goanna ''(Varanus varius)'', remembered they were all there and went back, the rest of the animals might have had to watch the carrion eater eat them one by one as they died.

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* We can hope that Penny was the ''first'' \'\'first\'\' orphan Medusa abducted and sent into mortal peril, but we don't ''know'' don\'t \'\'know\'\' it. Likewise, although it's it\'s not spelled out, it would have been unwise to let Penny tell anybody what was going on in the Bayou, and fairly simple (what with the easy access to shotguns and crocodiles) for Medusa to see to it that she told no tales.
* Cody leaves the room with the trapped, sentient, ''talking'' \'\'talking\'\' animals, with [=McLeach=] telling him he won't won\'t ever see them again. We never see anything that contradicts the obvious implication that he slaughtered them all.
** Well, it did seem like [=McLeach=] immediately tricked Cody into leading him to the Eagle, then tried to kill him, leading directly to [=McLeach=]'s [=McLeach=]\'s own death. All of this appeared to happen in sequence with no time to go back and kill and skin the animals for sale. There again, though, it raises the question of what happened to the chained up animals. All the characters seemed to just forget they existed. That would mean that they all slowly starved and dehydrated to death. Or worse, if Joanna, who appears to be a Lace Goanna ''(Varanus varius)'', \'\'(Varanus varius)\'\', remembered they were all there and went back, the rest of the animals might have had to watch the carrion eater eat them one by one as they died.



*** Not to mention that, once Cody was safely home, he probably told the authorities all about [=McLeach=] and his poaching operation, including the location of his base. It's not a stretch to assume they would have been rescued and set free.

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*** Not to mention that, once Cody was safely home, he probably told the authorities all about [=McLeach=] and his poaching operation, including the location of his base. It's It\'s not a stretch to assume they would have been rescued and set free.



* Think about how the whole crocodile falls scène in the climax of Down Under must have looked like from Cody's (an eight year old!) point of view.

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* Think about how the whole crocodile falls scène in the climax of Down Under must have looked like from Cody's Cody\'s (an eight year old!) point of view.



* Among the swamp critters from the first film is Old Grandpa, a turtle in a Confederate army cap. Given the very long lifespans that turtles can attain, it's possible he ''actually witnessed'' the U.S. Civil War.

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* Among the swamp critters from the first film is Old Grandpa, a turtle in a Confederate army cap. Given the very long lifespans that turtles can attain, it's it\'s possible he ''actually witnessed'' \'\'actually witnessed\'\' the U.S. Civil War.



* It makes you wonder how mice manage to encode a message in what is presumably the Pacific Fleet Headquarters at Pearl Harbor during the "Message Montage" scene.
** Clearly the R.A.S. has had hackers infiltrating human computer systems for a while. If there's ever a third Rescuers film, the Internet is likely to make their work easier. On the Internet, nobody knows you're a mouse.
* No-one in the Rescue Aid Society thinks of sending Penny's message-in-a-bottle to the police. [[LampShading Lampshaded]] by Penny:
-->'''Penny:''' Didn't you bring someone big with you, like the police?
** Given the reporter's reaction to what Penny said at the end of the movie, it's likely that [[InvisibleToAdults the mice don't interact with adults]].
* Considering it's one of Disney's most financially successful and critically acclaimed features, you'd think it would be a good business move to release a soundtrack for the first movie, especially since it had an Oscar-nominated song. Thankfully, the 3 Music/ShelbyFlint tracks are included with the newer edition of the ''Down Under'' soundtrack.
** They've released at least a partial soundtrack before. I grew up with a cassette tape of songs from the Rescuers.

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* It makes you wonder how mice manage to encode a message in what is presumably the Pacific Fleet Headquarters at Pearl Harbor during the "Message Montage" \"Message Montage\" scene.
** Clearly the R.A.S. has had hackers infiltrating human computer systems for a while. If there's there\'s ever a third Rescuers film, the Internet is likely to make their work easier. On the Internet, nobody knows you're you\'re a mouse.
* No-one in the Rescue Aid Society thinks of sending Penny's Penny\'s message-in-a-bottle to the police. [[LampShading Lampshaded]] by Penny:
-->'''Penny:''' Didn't -->\'\'\'Penny:\'\'\' Didn\'t you bring someone big with you, like the police?
** Given the reporter's reporter\'s reaction to what Penny said at the end of the movie, it's it\'s likely that [[InvisibleToAdults the mice don't don\'t interact with adults]].
* Considering it's it\'s one of Disney's Disney\'s most financially successful and critically acclaimed features, you'd you\'d think it would be a good business move to release a soundtrack for the first movie, especially since it had an Oscar-nominated song. Thankfully, the 3 Music/ShelbyFlint tracks are included with the newer edition of the ''Down Under'' \'\'Down Under\'\' soundtrack.
** They've They\'ve released at least a partial soundtrack before. I grew up with a cassette tape of songs from the Rescuers.



** The coordinates from the first report (the one transmitted by those that witnessed the kidnapping) may have been included along with the message. I don't remember actually seeing the message, so its possible.
* When Bernard tries to keep their mission hush-hush, Jake immediately reveals he knows all about the kidnapped boy, proclaiming that it's hard to keep secrets in the outback. But when they get to [=MacLeach=]'s place and hear him taunting Cody about Marahute and the eggs, Jake has no idea what he's talking about, nor does he recognize where they're headed or that Marahute has a nest there. So apparently Jake doesn't know everything going on in the outback.

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** The coordinates from the first report (the one transmitted by those that witnessed the kidnapping) may have been included along with the message. I don't don\'t remember actually seeing the message, so its possible.
* When Bernard tries to keep their mission hush-hush, Jake immediately reveals he knows all about the kidnapped boy, proclaiming that it's it\'s hard to keep secrets in the outback. But when they get to [=MacLeach=]'s [=MacLeach=]\'s place and hear him taunting Cody about Marahute and the eggs, Jake has no idea what he's he\'s talking about, nor does he recognize where they're they\'re headed or that Marahute has a nest there. So apparently Jake doesn't doesn\'t know everything going on in the outback.



* So Percival C. [=McLeach=] may have only stuck in school till third grade and may be a lowly poacher, but on several occasions he's shown to be BookDumb but StreetSmart. Then how do you explain his actions towards the golden eagles? Instead of selling them to a zoo or bring them into society possibly making millions, he sells them on the black market. Considering how he's still hunting smaller animals and the way his shack looks, the first golden eagle didn't make him rich, so why should Marahute? Even if all of this can be explained by a greed for money and so forth, he employs Joanna to eat Marahute's eggs so golden eagles can stay rare.. what the fuck is wrong with him? Each of those eggs could be worth millions!

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* So Percival C. [=McLeach=] may have only stuck in school till third grade and may be a lowly poacher, but on several occasions he's he\'s shown to be BookDumb but StreetSmart. Then how do you explain his actions towards the golden eagles? Instead of selling them to a zoo or bring them into society possibly making millions, he sells them on the black market. Considering how he's he\'s still hunting smaller animals and the way his shack looks, the first golden eagle didn't didn\'t make him rich, so why should Marahute? Even if all of this can be explained by a greed for money and so forth, he employs Joanna to eat Marahute's Marahute\'s eggs so golden eagles can stay rare.. what the fuck is wrong with him? Each of those eggs could be worth millions!



** Objection, OP. He can't sell them to a zoo ''because he's a wanted man!''
** Another thing about zoos is that you can't just pull a wild animal out of its natural habitat and stick it in a zoo, especially if its not poking its nose dangerously (dangerous to both the animal and any humans) into areas heavily populated by humans, and most of those animals would simply be released somewhere else. No zoo is ever knowingly buy an animal from a poacher, and McLeach would be pretty obvious as a poacher, having an extremely rare bird in his possession and all.

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** Objection, OP. He can't can\'t sell them to a zoo ''because he's \'\'because he\'s a wanted man!''
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** Another thing about zoos is that you can't can\'t just pull a wild animal out of its natural habitat and stick it in a zoo, especially if its not poking its nose dangerously (dangerous to both the animal and any humans) into areas heavily populated by humans, and most of those animals would simply be released somewhere else. No zoo is ever knowingly buy an animal from a poacher, and McLeach would be pretty obvious as a poacher, having an extremely rare bird in his possession and all.

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** Clearly the R.A.S. has had hackers infiltrating human computer systems for a while. If there's ever a third Rescuers film, the Internet is likely to make their work easier. On the Internet, nobody knows you're a mouse.
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* We can hope that Penny was the ''first'' orphan Medusa abducted and sent into mortal peril, but we don't ''know'' it. Likewise, although it's not spelled out, it would have been unwise to let Penny get in contact with authorities, and fairly simple (what with the easy access to shotguns and crocodiles) for Medusa to see to it that she told no tales.

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* We can hope that Penny was the ''first'' orphan Medusa abducted and sent into mortal peril, but we don't ''know'' it. Likewise, although it's not spelled out, it would have been unwise to let Penny get tell anybody what was going on in contact with authorities, the Bayou, and fairly simple (what with the easy access to shotguns and crocodiles) for Medusa to see to it that she told no tales.

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*** Well, that's rather sociopathic.
**** No. Sociopathy is seeing what happened to her as no better than what she did to everybody else.


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* We can hope that Penny was the ''first'' orphan Medusa abducted and sent into mortal peril, but we don't ''know'' it. Likewise, although it's not spelled out, it would have been unwise to let Penny get in contact with authorities, and fairly simple (what with the easy access to shotguns and crocodiles) for Medusa to see to it that she told no tales.
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**** No. Sociopathy is seeing what happened to her as no better than what she did to everybody else.
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* Considering it's one of Disney's most financially successful and critically acclaimed features, you'd think it would be a good business move to release a soundtrack for the first movie, especially since it had an Oscar-nominated song. Thankfully, the 3 Shelby Flint tracks are included with the newer edition of the ''Down Under'' soundtrack.

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* Considering it's one of Disney's most financially successful and critically acclaimed features, you'd think it would be a good business move to release a soundtrack for the first movie, especially since it had an Oscar-nominated song. Thankfully, the 3 Shelby Flint Music/ShelbyFlint tracks are included with the newer edition of the ''Down Under'' soundtrack.
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* Among the swamp critters from the first film is Old Grandpa, a turtle in a Confederate army cap. Given the very long lifespans that turtles can attain, it's possible he ''actually witnessed'' the U.S. Civil War.
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** Another thing about zoos is that you can't just pull a wild animal out of its natural habitat and stick it in a zoo, especially if its not poking its nose dangerously (dangerous to both the animal and any humans) into areas heavily populated by humans, and most of those animals would simply be released somewhere else. No zoo is ever knowingly buy an animal from a poacher, and McLeach would be pretty obvious as a poacher, having an extremely rare bird in his possession and all.
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** Objection, OP. He can't sell them to a zoo ''because he's a wanted man!''
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*** Well, that's rather sociopathic.
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** Not making it past third grade may have something to do with his poor decision making. Also, the father eagle apparantly was brought in dead, and Marahute is alive. That might explain the assumed difference in value.

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** Not making it past third grade may have something to do with his poor decision making. Also, the father eagle apparantly was brought in dead, and Marahute is alive. That might explain the assumed difference in value.value.
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* So Percival C. [=McLeach=] may have only stuck in school till third grade and may be a lowly poacher, but on several occasions he's shown to be BookDumb but StreetSmart. Then how do you explain his actions towards the golden eagles? Instead of selling them to a zoo or bring them into society possibly making millions, he sells them on the black market. Considering how he's still hunting smaller animals and the way his shack looks, the first golden eagle didn't make him rich, so why should Marahute? Even if all of this can be explained by a greed for money and so forth, he employs Joanna to eat Marahute's eggs so golden eagles can stay rare.. what the fuck is wrong with him? Each of those eggs could be worth millions!

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* So Percival C. [=McLeach=] may have only stuck in school till third grade and may be a lowly poacher, but on several occasions he's shown to be BookDumb but StreetSmart. Then how do you explain his actions towards the golden eagles? Instead of selling them to a zoo or bring them into society possibly making millions, he sells them on the black market. Considering how he's still hunting smaller animals and the way his shack looks, the first golden eagle didn't make him rich, so why should Marahute? Even if all of this can be explained by a greed for money and so forth, he employs Joanna to eat Marahute's eggs so golden eagles can stay rare.. what the fuck is wrong with him? Each of those eggs could be worth millions!millions!
** Not making it past third grade may have something to do with his poor decision making. Also, the father eagle apparantly was brought in dead, and Marahute is alive. That might explain the assumed difference in value.
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* Think about how the whole crocodile falls scène in the climax of Down Under must have looked like from Cody's (an eight year old!) point of view.
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** Well, a [[KarmicDeath Karmic]] DisneyVillainDeath. The alligators snapping at her counts as TheDogBitesBack since she was abusive against them as well. And as Medusa was shown to a murderous sociopath who cruelly tore at an orphan girl's emotions, I can't feel ''too'' bad about it.



** FridgeBrilliance: Jake was just trying to impress the tourists.

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** FridgeBrilliance: Jake was just trying to impress the tourists.tourists.
* So Percival C. [=McLeach=] may have only stuck in school till third grade and may be a lowly poacher, but on several occasions he's shown to be BookDumb but StreetSmart. Then how do you explain his actions towards the golden eagles? Instead of selling them to a zoo or bring them into society possibly making millions, he sells them on the black market. Considering how he's still hunting smaller animals and the way his shack looks, the first golden eagle didn't make him rich, so why should Marahute? Even if all of this can be explained by a greed for money and so forth, he employs Joanna to eat Marahute's eggs so golden eagles can stay rare.. what the fuck is wrong with him? Each of those eggs could be worth millions!
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*** Not to mention that, once Cody was safely home, he probably told the authorities all about McLeach and his poaching operation, including the location of his base. It's not a stretch to assume they would have been rescued and set free.

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*** Not to mention that, once Cody was safely home, he probably told the authorities all about McLeach [=McLeach=] and his poaching operation, including the location of his base. It's not a stretch to assume they would have been rescued and set free.
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*** Not to mention that, once Cody was safely home, he probably told the authorities all about McLeach and his poaching operation, including the location of his base. It's not a stretch to assume they would have been rescued and set free.
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* When Bernard tries to keep their mission hush-hush, Jake immediately reveals he knows all about the kidnapped boy, proclaiming that it's hard to keep secrets in the outback. But when they get to [=MacLeach=]'s place and hear him taunting Cody about Marahute and the eggs, Jake has no idea what he's talking about, nor does he recognize where they're headed or that Marahute has a nest there. So apparently Jake doesn't know everything going on in the outback.

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* When Bernard tries to keep their mission hush-hush, Jake immediately reveals he knows all about the kidnapped boy, proclaiming that it's hard to keep secrets in the outback. But when they get to [=MacLeach=]'s place and hear him taunting Cody about Marahute and the eggs, Jake has no idea what he's talking about, nor does he recognize where they're headed or that Marahute has a nest there. So apparently Jake doesn't know everything going on in the outback.outback.
** FridgeBrilliance: Jake was just trying to impress the tourists.
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*** Also, surely Miss Bianca, Jake, and Bernard would go back to free them once Cody told about their fate.



** The coordinates from the first report (the one transmitted by those that witnessed the kidnapping) may have been included along with the message. I don't remember actually seeing the message, so its possible.

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** The coordinates from the first report (the one transmitted by those that witnessed the kidnapping) may have been included along with the message. I don't remember actually seeing the message, so its possible.possible.
* When Bernard tries to keep their mission hush-hush, Jake immediately reveals he knows all about the kidnapped boy, proclaiming that it's hard to keep secrets in the outback. But when they get to [=MacLeach=]'s place and hear him taunting Cody about Marahute and the eggs, Jake has no idea what he's talking about, nor does he recognize where they're headed or that Marahute has a nest there. So apparently Jake doesn't know everything going on in the outback.
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* Joanna is seen to be afraid of McLeach -- which leaves open the question of whether she was always that mean.

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*** Frank the frilled-neck lizard, used his tail once to unlock his cage. Surely he could do it again, and sucessfully get the keys again with Joanna nowhere nearby to stop him.

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* The encoded message (that you see in Hawaii) simply said that the boy had been kidnapped in Australia. Australia is a large continent. How did they know where to go?
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*** Frank the frilled-neck lizard, used his tail once to unlock his cage. Surely he could do it again, and sucessfully get the keys again with Joanna nowhere nearby to stop him.
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* Medusa is last seen clinging to a smokestack with Brutus and Nero snapping at her below. One can only imagine what awful fate Medusa might have met once her strength gave in. [[CompleteMonster Couldn't have been any worse than what she deserved, though.]]

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* Medusa is last seen clinging to a smokestack with Brutus and Nero snapping at her below. One can only imagine what awful fate Medusa might have met once her strength gave in. [[CompleteMonster Couldn't have been any worse than what she deserved, though.]]

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* In the first ''[[Disney/TheRescuers Rescuers]]'' film, [[HeartwarmingOrphan Penny]], a seven-to-nine-year-old girl is trapped for months in the middle of a Louisiana swamp with a middle-aged man.
** There's plenty of horror in Penny's situation without assuming that Mr. Snoops is a pedophile.

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* In the first ''[[Disney/TheRescuers Rescuers]]'' film, [[HeartwarmingOrphan Penny]], a seven-to-nine-year-old girl is trapped for months in the middle of a Louisiana swamp with a middle-aged man.
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** Well, it did seem like McLeach immediately tricked Cody into leading him to the Eagle, then tried to kill him, leading directly to McLeach's own death. All of this appeared to happen in sequence with no time to go back and kill and skin the animals for sale. There again, though, it raises the question of what happened to the chained up animals. All the characters seemed to just forget they existed. That would mean that they all slowly starved and dehydrated to death. Or worse, if Joanna, who appears to be a Lace Goanna ''(Varanus varius)'', remembered they were all there and went back, the rest of the animals might have had to watch the carrion eater eat them one by one as they died.

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** Well, it did seem like McLeach [=McLeach=] immediately tricked Cody into leading him to the Eagle, then tried to kill him, leading directly to McLeach's [=McLeach=]'s own death. All of this appeared to happen in sequence with no time to go back and kill and skin the animals for sale. There again, though, it raises the question of what happened to the chained up animals. All the characters seemed to just forget they existed. That would mean that they all slowly starved and dehydrated to death. Or worse, if Joanna, who appears to be a Lace Goanna ''(Varanus varius)'', remembered they were all there and went back, the rest of the animals might have had to watch the carrion eater eat them one by one as they died.
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** Well, it did seem like McLeach immediately tricked Cody into leading him to the Eagle, then tried to kill him, leading directly to McLeach's own death. All of this appeared to happen in sequence with no time to go back and kill and skin the animals for sale. There again, though, it raises the question of what happened to the chained up animals. All the characters seemed to just forget they existed. That would mean that they all slowly starved and dehydrated to death. Or worse, if Joanna, who appears to be a Lace Goanna ''(Varanus varius)'', remembered they were all there and went back, the rest of the animals might have had to watch the carrion eater eat them one by one as they died.
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** They've released at least a partial soundtrack before. I grew up with a cassette tape of songs from the Rescuers.

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