History Fridge / StarWars

26th May '17 6:20:01 AM CosmicFerret
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* Also, I'm not sure if this was already mentioned here, (and it's not exactly easy to look through the list) but I think it's arguably FridgeBrilliance that when it comes to lightsaber colours, Qui-Gon uses green, Obi-Wan uses blue, and Luke Skywalker uses blue in TheEmpireStrikesBack and green in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. [[spoiler:Also, Qui-Gon was more trusting of Anakin than Obi-Wan was, much like how Luke was more trusting of Vader in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' than he was in TheEmpireStrikesBack.]] - [=neoYTPism=]

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* Also, I'm not sure if this was already mentioned here, (and it's not exactly easy to look through the list) but I think it's arguably FridgeBrilliance that when it comes to lightsaber colours, Qui-Gon uses green, Obi-Wan uses blue, and Luke Skywalker uses blue in TheEmpireStrikesBack Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack and green in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. [[spoiler:Also, Qui-Gon was more trusting of Anakin than Obi-Wan was, much like how Luke was more trusting of Vader in ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' than he was in TheEmpireStrikesBack.Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack.]] - [=neoYTPism=]
13th May '17 8:42:10 PM billybobfred
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* In the original trilogy, the Emperor is a cackling old maniac that is so evil, he can shoot lightning out of his hands, but can be killed by being dropped in a BottomlessPit. In the prequels, he is a MagnificentBastard that can executes {{Xanatos Gambit}}s, BatmanGambits, and takes over a galaxy through political cunning. And when he has to, he can dispatch all but Yoda in duels. in short, he's AWESOME. Why did they change his personality so much? Because of the other Sith, mainly Dooku. Dooku could also shoot lightning with ease, and he's not exactly learned in the Sith ways. Suddenly, ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' has a moderately powerful, frail, insane, ugly old man calling the shots for Darth Vader. Lucas needed a Sith that could still seem formidable without his allies.

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* In the original trilogy, the Emperor is a cackling old maniac that is so evil, he can shoot lightning out of his hands, but can be killed by being dropped in a BottomlessPit. In the prequels, he is a MagnificentBastard that can executes {{Xanatos Gambit}}s, BatmanGambits, {{Batman Gambit}}s, and takes over a galaxy through political cunning. And when he has to, he can dispatch all but Yoda in duels. in short, he's AWESOME. Why did they change his personality so much? Because of the other Sith, mainly Dooku. Dooku could also shoot lightning with ease, and he's not exactly learned in the Sith ways. Suddenly, ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' has a moderately powerful, frail, insane, ugly old man calling the shots for Darth Vader. Lucas needed a Sith that could still seem formidable without his allies.
23rd Apr '17 2:56:57 PM AthenaBlue
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23rd Apr '17 2:56:42 PM AthenaBlue
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16th Apr '17 8:30:08 PM nombretomado
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** More than that is because some worlds like Naboo are just pacifist who are not interested in building an army, and only possess a pissy security force with only 1000 force strong. Its is quite amazing that they even survive so long since they share a planet with the Gungans who are a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Warrior Race]] with a real standing army that could boot out the Naboo by just knocking on their doorstep with their own army. This is touched in StarWarsTheCloneWars where the Separatist almost convinced the Gungans to side with them.

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** More than that is because some worlds like Naboo are just pacifist who are not interested in building an army, and only possess a pissy security force with only 1000 force strong. Its is quite amazing that they even survive so long since they share a planet with the Gungans who are a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Warrior Race]] with a real standing army that could boot out the Naboo by just knocking on their doorstep with their own army. This is touched in StarWarsTheCloneWars ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsTheCloneWars'' where the Separatist almost convinced the Gungans to side with them.
8th Apr '17 4:13:45 PM nombretomado
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* Also, I'm not sure if this was already mentioned here, (and it's not exactly easy to look through the list) but I think it's arguably FridgeBrilliance that when it comes to lightsaber colours, Qui-Gon uses green, Obi-Wan uses blue, and Luke Skywalker uses blue in TheEmpireStrikesBack and green in ReturnOfTheJedi. [[spoiler:Also, Qui-Gon was more trusting of Anakin than Obi-Wan was, much like how Luke was more trusting of Vader in ReturnOfTheJedi than he was in TheEmpireStrikesBack.]] - [=neoYTPism=]

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* Also, I'm not sure if this was already mentioned here, (and it's not exactly easy to look through the list) but I think it's arguably FridgeBrilliance that when it comes to lightsaber colours, Qui-Gon uses green, Obi-Wan uses blue, and Luke Skywalker uses blue in TheEmpireStrikesBack and green in ReturnOfTheJedi. ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. [[spoiler:Also, Qui-Gon was more trusting of Anakin than Obi-Wan was, much like how Luke was more trusting of Vader in ReturnOfTheJedi ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' than he was in TheEmpireStrikesBack.]] - [=neoYTPism=]



* In ''ReturnOfTheJedi'' and ''VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed'', Palpatine tries to have Luke and Marek, respectively try to murder Darth Vader upon the latter's defeat so he could take his place at his side. Seems like standard Sith ways. However, Vader, or rather, Anakin Skywalker, was technically born of a Sith experiment between Plagueis and himself (even if it wasn't what they had intended), so the implications of that is not only the fact that Palpatine would do away with an apprentice if it doesn't suit his current needs, but that he's willing to [[OffingTheOffspring off what amounts to his own son]].

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* In ''ReturnOfTheJedi'' ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'' and ''VideoGame/TheForceUnleashed'', Palpatine tries to have Luke and Marek, respectively try to murder Darth Vader upon the latter's defeat so he could take his place at his side. Seems like standard Sith ways. However, Vader, or rather, Anakin Skywalker, was technically born of a Sith experiment between Plagueis and himself (even if it wasn't what they had intended), so the implications of that is not only the fact that Palpatine would do away with an apprentice if it doesn't suit his current needs, but that he's willing to [[OffingTheOffspring off what amounts to his own son]].
20th Mar '17 3:23:30 PM AFP
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** Yet another theory, implied in ''Film/RogueOne'', was that the Stormtroopers miss the heroes because The Force wills it. If The Force flows through everyone and everything and binds the universe together, that implies that it has some part to play in Fate as well.
19th Mar '17 11:48:11 AM nombretomado
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** And one line that perfectly enhances that theme is in ''ANewHope''. When Luke is disappointed to learn that Han and Chewie will not stay to help the Rebels fight the Death Star, Leia tells him that "He [Han] has got to follow his own path. No one can choose it for him." - Tropers/{{Premonition45}}

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** And one line that perfectly enhances that theme is in ''ANewHope''.''Film/ANewHope''. When Luke is disappointed to learn that Han and Chewie will not stay to help the Rebels fight the Death Star, Leia tells him that "He [Han] has got to follow his own path. No one can choose it for him." - Tropers/{{Premonition45}}



* Another thing, and this sort of combines FridgeHorror with FridgeBrilliance... in the original trilogy, Palpatine and Vader seem perfectly aware of the Force, and Vader is shown mentioning it to other Imperial officers in ANewHope, but they seem to perceive it as just another religion. However, they (or at least some of them) also seem to be aware that the Jedi were mostly wiped out, as implied by one of Tarkin's conversations with Vader, in which Tarkin says ''"you, my friend, are all that is left of their religion."'' Now think about this in light of the prequel trilogy. ''"Order 66"'' was already [[MoralEventHorizon heinous]], but we know from the context that it was at least somewhat pragmatic; Palpatine wiped out the Jedi because they were the only rivals to himself and Vader in knowledge of the force. Tarkin, however, not believing in the force, is probably unaware that this was the reason. Now think about what he said once more. ''"All that is left of their religion."'' In other words, he [[ANaziByAnyOtherName condones having people rounded up and killed for their religious beliefs]]. Sure, we knew he was bad news from the start, [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain but still]]... - [=neoYTPism=]

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* Another thing, and this sort of combines FridgeHorror with FridgeBrilliance... in the original trilogy, Palpatine and Vader seem perfectly aware of the Force, and Vader is shown mentioning it to other Imperial officers in ANewHope, ''Film/ANewHope'', but they seem to perceive it as just another religion. However, they (or at least some of them) also seem to be aware that the Jedi were mostly wiped out, as implied by one of Tarkin's conversations with Vader, in which Tarkin says ''"you, my friend, are all that is left of their religion."'' Now think about this in light of the prequel trilogy. ''"Order 66"'' was already [[MoralEventHorizon heinous]], but we know from the context that it was at least somewhat pragmatic; Palpatine wiped out the Jedi because they were the only rivals to himself and Vader in knowledge of the force. Tarkin, however, not believing in the force, is probably unaware that this was the reason. Now think about what he said once more. ''"All that is left of their religion."'' In other words, he [[ANaziByAnyOtherName condones having people rounded up and killed for their religious beliefs]]. Sure, we knew he was bad news from the start, [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain but still]]... - [=neoYTPism=]



* When Qui-Gon died in ''ThePhantomMenace'', many fans complained that he did not vanish as Obi-Wan and Yoda had, and that the revelation in ''RevengeOfTheSith'' that it was technique that Qui-Gon's Force spirit taught to them violated the original trilogy. Except that the original trilogy gives us no reason to think that this happens to all Force-users, or even that the Jedi knew about the technique before Vader's fall to the Dark Side:
** In ''ANewHope'', Vader is clearly surprised when Obi-Wan vanishes, and prods the empty robes like "Was there a trap door or something?" He was a former Jedi, and Obi-Wan's pupil, but did not expect the disappearing act.
** In ''ReturnOfTheJedi'', Anakin's body does not disappear when he dies, but he is still able to return as a Force spirit.

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* When Qui-Gon died in ''ThePhantomMenace'', ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', many fans complained that he did not vanish as Obi-Wan and Yoda had, and that the revelation in ''RevengeOfTheSith'' that it was technique that Qui-Gon's Force spirit taught to them violated the original trilogy. Except that the original trilogy gives us no reason to think that this happens to all Force-users, or even that the Jedi knew about the technique before Vader's fall to the Dark Side:
** In ''ANewHope'', ''Film/ANewHope'', Vader is clearly surprised when Obi-Wan vanishes, and prods the empty robes like "Was there a trap door or something?" He was a former Jedi, and Obi-Wan's pupil, but did not expect the disappearing act.
** In ''ReturnOfTheJedi'', ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi'', Anakin's body does not disappear when he dies, but he is still able to return as a Force spirit.



* I've been watching these movies, reading the books, and playing the video games my whole life, and I can't believe that in all that time I hadn't wondered about this much earlier. But it hit me when I was playing ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' and was introduced to the Wookiee named Zaalbar. If you're a Wookiee and you want to introduce yourself to a human, your ''name'' ought to sound the same in Basic as it does in Shyriiwook, right? So when somebody asks Chewbacca what his name is, and he says "Urf-rawr-growl," people are going to call him "Urf-rawr-growl," right? For people to call Chewbacca or Zaalbar "Chewbacca" and "Zaalbar", the Wookiee would need to be able to make the sounds that make up his name...right? That's how it works with other languages in the SW universe; despite speaking his own language, Greedo still distinctly says "Solo" and "Jabba" in ''ANewHope''.

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* I've been watching these movies, reading the books, and playing the video games my whole life, and I can't believe that in all that time I hadn't wondered about this much earlier. But it hit me when I was playing ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' and was introduced to the Wookiee named Zaalbar. If you're a Wookiee and you want to introduce yourself to a human, your ''name'' ought to sound the same in Basic as it does in Shyriiwook, right? So when somebody asks Chewbacca what his name is, and he says "Urf-rawr-growl," people are going to call him "Urf-rawr-growl," right? For people to call Chewbacca or Zaalbar "Chewbacca" and "Zaalbar", the Wookiee would need to be able to make the sounds that make up his name...right? That's how it works with other languages in the SW universe; despite speaking his own language, Greedo still distinctly says "Solo" and "Jabba" in ''ANewHope''.''Film/ANewHope''.



* In the original trilogy, Palpatine and Vader seem perfectly aware of the force, and Vader is shown mentioning it to other Imperial officers in ANewHope, but they seem to perceive it as just another religion. However, they (or at least some of them) also seem to be aware that the Jedi were mostly wiped out, as implied by one of Tarkin's conversations with Vader, in which Tarkin says ''"you, my friend, are all that is left of their religion."'' Now think about this in light of the prequel trilogy. ''"Order 66"'' was already [[MoralEventHorizon heinous]], but we know from the context that it was at least somewhat pragmatic; Palpatine wiped out the Jedi because they were the only rivals to himself and Vader in knowledge of the force. Tarkin, however, not believing in the Force, is probably unaware that this was the reason. Now think about what he said once more. ''"All that is left of their religion."'' In other words, he [[ANaziByAnyOtherName condones having people rounded up and killed for their religious beliefs]]. Sure, we know he was bad news from the start, [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain but still]]...

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* In the original trilogy, Palpatine and Vader seem perfectly aware of the force, and Vader is shown mentioning it to other Imperial officers in ANewHope, ''Film/ANewHope'', but they seem to perceive it as just another religion. However, they (or at least some of them) also seem to be aware that the Jedi were mostly wiped out, as implied by one of Tarkin's conversations with Vader, in which Tarkin says ''"you, my friend, are all that is left of their religion."'' Now think about this in light of the prequel trilogy. ''"Order 66"'' was already [[MoralEventHorizon heinous]], but we know from the context that it was at least somewhat pragmatic; Palpatine wiped out the Jedi because they were the only rivals to himself and Vader in knowledge of the force. Tarkin, however, not believing in the Force, is probably unaware that this was the reason. Now think about what he said once more. ''"All that is left of their religion."'' In other words, he [[ANaziByAnyOtherName condones having people rounded up and killed for their religious beliefs]]. Sure, we know he was bad news from the start, [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain but still]]...
10th Mar '17 12:12:37 AM MawofWinter
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*** There is no need for namecalling Newton. While the Star Wars does take plenty of shortcuts with overcoming the laws of Physics, nowhere (that I know of) is there mentioned that the laws of Physics are different from our world. All the spaceships in Star Wars setting have artificial gravity for crew comfort, they serve a specific purpose. Those artificial gravity generators don't exist just because. What exactly would be the purpose of putting an artificial gravity generator into a lightsaber just to prevent it from jerking a little when the blade shuts down while not being held? That would be quite a vanity modification highly uncharacteristic of the jedi.
9th Mar '17 9:13:32 AM Ambaryerno
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*** You do realize you're talking a setting with a technology level so high that it makes Newton their bitch, right? We see the ''Falcon'', X-wings, and TIE fighters carrying out maneuvers at speeds which ''should'' reduce their crews to a fine paste on the inside of their cockpits.
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