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18th May '16 10:45:48 AM CommanderVisor
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7th Jan '16 8:59:27 AM Parthidens
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*Why are the Stormtroopers such terrible shots? You could put it down to Luke (and to some extent Leia) unconsciously using the Force in defence, but I think there's a more logical and simple explanation in the prequels:
**The Stormtroopers are the spiritual successors of the Clone Troopers, and the Clones had accelerated growth so they were battle-ready in a fraction of the time it would take to train up a normal army.
**Assuming that the rate of this accelerated growth stayed roughly the same, then by the time of Ep IV, the Clones would have been functionally around eighty years old. So it would make sense that the Empire started recruiting (or conscripting) ordinary, younger people for its army (and this also explains different Stormtrooper heights).
**But there's more: the Clones had already been trained by the time the Republic received them, so it's reasonable to suggest that the Republic/Empire initially had no training programme in place, and had to throw one together between Eps III and IV without knowing its true effectiveness.
**This shoddy planning was partly justified, however, since the Empire did not expect to be seriously threatened (at this point, the Separatists' armies had been deactivated, the Old Republic had been swept away, and the only major foes of the Empire were small bands of Rebels armed with clapped-out equipment), and so they could get away with having an ineffective army. All the Empire really needed to do to eliminate its enemy was put some new(ish) recruits into bulky armour and give them bigger and better weapons than the Rebels, even if those recruits were incapable of hitting the target or having any knowledge of military tactics.
6th Jan '16 8:12:47 PM Ambaryerno
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* The popular explanation for why the Prequel Trilogy duels are so much more elaborate than those of the Original Trilogy is because lightsaber combat "declined" after the fall of the Republic and destruction of the Jedi, and the full extent of the art of the lightsaber was lost. However:
** By the late Old Republic the Jedi assumed the Sith were destroyed, and there were fewer, if any, enemies the Jedi would regularly face who would use lightsabers. With the martial aspects of lightsaber combat becoming less important, the art continued to develop for the sake of the art itself. This parallels the development of longsword combat in Europe: When Liechtenauer's fechtbuch was written, the longsword was still a major battlefield weapon, and the focus of the art was on earnest combat. This is reflected by his simple, direct, and efficient style (and in fact he was outright disparaging of the flashy show-fighters of his day). However by the time of later masters such as Joachim Meyer, tournament fighting started to supplant martial and judicial combat as the focus of European swordsmanship because of the increasing presence and effectiveness of firearms. This led to a much more elaborate, flashier form of swordsmanship better-suited to entertaining crowds.
** With no further purpose for the more elaborate lightsaber arts of the late Republic, since under the Empire virtually ''no one'' was using them, this fancier style was abandoned and use of the lightsaber among the rare practitioners reverted to a much more efficient style better suited to the battlefield and personal defense, much like how Western Martial Arts today often focuses more on the earlier masters such as Liechtenauer and Fiore than the later tournament fighters. When Obi-Wan began training Luke, he taught him the older ''battlefield'' styles that would be much more effective at keeping him alive, than the elaborate techniques the Jedi developed among themselves to demonstrate their skill in the absence of any real enemies they would need to match in a duel.
5th Jan '16 12:50:26 AM NhazUl
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* Yoda's manner of speaking. By putting the subject and the modal/auxilliary verbs at the end, he makes sure that the more informative parts of the sentence come first.
28th Dec '15 7:02:26 PM TheWildWestPyro
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28th Dec '15 7:01:10 PM TheWildWestPyro
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28th Dec '15 6:59:14 PM TheWildWestPyro
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** TruthInTelevision. Sacrificing a few troops here and there to achieve a greater objective is not an uncommon military strategy.

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** TruthInTelevision. Sacrificing a few troops here and there to achieve a greater objective is not an uncommon military strategy.strategy.
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25th Dec '15 8:05:55 PM modgethanc
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** I'm not sure what you mean by your comments above. However, I think it's FridgeBrilliance that Luke made his second lightsaber as a homage to both of his teachers: it has the same design as Obi-Wan's, but the blade colour is green like Yoda's.



* Another thing, and this sort of combines FridgeHorror with FridgeBrilliance... in the original trilogy, Palpatine and Vader seem perfectly aware of the force, and Vader is shown mentioning it to other Imperial officers in ANewHope, but they seem to perceive it as just another religion. However, they (or at least some of them) also seem to be aware that the Jedi were mostly wiped out, as implied by one of Tarkin's conversations with Vader, in which Tarkin says ''"you, my friend, are all that is left of their religion."'' Now think about this in light of the prequel trilogy. ''"Order 66"'' was already [[MoralEventHorizon heinous]], but we know from the context that it was at least somewhat pragmatic; Palpatine wiped out the Jedi because they were the only rivals to himself and Vader in knowledge of the force. Tarkin, however, not believing in the force, is probably unaware that this was the reason. Now think about what he said once more. ''"All that is left of their religion."'' In other words, he [[ANaziByAnyOtherName condones having people rounded up and killed for their religious beliefs]]. Sure, we knew he was bad news from the start, [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain but still]]... - [=neoYTPism=]

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* Another thing, and this sort of combines FridgeHorror with FridgeBrilliance... in the original trilogy, Palpatine and Vader seem perfectly aware of the force, Force, and Vader is shown mentioning it to other Imperial officers in ANewHope, but they seem to perceive it as just another religion. However, they (or at least some of them) also seem to be aware that the Jedi were mostly wiped out, as implied by one of Tarkin's conversations with Vader, in which Tarkin says ''"you, my friend, are all that is left of their religion."'' Now think about this in light of the prequel trilogy. ''"Order 66"'' was already [[MoralEventHorizon heinous]], but we know from the context that it was at least somewhat pragmatic; Palpatine wiped out the Jedi because they were the only rivals to himself and Vader in knowledge of the force. Tarkin, however, not believing in the force, is probably unaware that this was the reason. Now think about what he said once more. ''"All that is left of their religion."'' In other words, he [[ANaziByAnyOtherName condones having people rounded up and killed for their religious beliefs]]. Sure, we knew he was bad news from the start, [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain but still]]... - [=neoYTPism=]


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** The duel at the ''beginning'' of Episode III, though, is even more similar. Anakin fights Dooku on the observation deck of a Star Destroyer just like how Luke fought Vader in the Emperor's throne room on the Death Star. In both cases, Palpatine is sitting in a chair (which looks nearly identical) and watching. Anakin is driven into a rage when Dooku knocks out Obi-Wan and then defeats him, just like how Luke flies into a rage and defeats Vader when he threatens Leia. And both end with a SwordOverHead moment where Anakin/Luke has Dooku/Vader at his mercy, and Palpatine tries to goad them into killing their defeated opponent. The difference is that Anakin goes through with it while Luke refuses to. Bonus points: Afterward, Anakin carries an unconscious Obi-Wan to safety, while Luke helps a mortally wounded Vader escape to the hangar.
9th Dec '15 4:10:24 PM Parthidens
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* Why is the Empire's state-of-the-art weapon specifically called the Death Star when it's barely the size of a moon? Because like a star, everything orbits around it, and it is the 'centre' of the Empire.
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