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* Also in the first episode, the amount of coins Old Scott leaves to trick the others into thinking Matthew had defeated Young Scott is indicative of his own sense of self, he literally left the amount he believed he was worth, almost nothing.
** Or seeing how Scott is still living with Wallace in the future and doesn't seem employed, that could [[OccamsRazor just be all the money he had at the moment.]]
* During the battle with Gideon in the original comics both Scott and Ramona were hit with [[MindRape The]] [[BlackBugRoom Glow]]. ''That's'' what [[AesopAmnesia made Future Scott forget to respect himself and women and be more mature and Future Ramona forget she can't run from relationships when they get tough]].
** This means Even Older Scott using his [[PsychicPowers vegan powers]] on Gideon isn't just a means of saying ShutUpHannibal; it's likely because he not only blames Gideon for having a major role in ruining his life but the [[VillainRespect compliment he gave regarding his plans]] [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame likely struck a nerve with him]]. One of the ''last things'' Even Older Scott needed to hear was his [[ArchEnemy greatest foe]] speaking positively about him.
* Matthew Patel of all characters becoming an AdaptationalBadass when he gets a confidence boost from beating Scott makes sense -- out of all the Evil Exes he and Todd are the only ones with actual superpowers with the others just being more [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower superhuman in their abilities]]. And unlike Todd, Matthew's powers don't come with conditions like following a certain dietary lifestyle. It's possible Matthew was always the strongest of the Evil Exes but his lack of confidence in himself limited his abilities, allowing Scott to beat him easily when they fought in the comics. Also, you have to compare him to Lucas Lee, the second ex Scott has to fight. Matthew has mystic powers, can summon allies through the demon hipster girls, and can heal himself. Whereas, Lucas is just really strong and has stunt doubles/skateboarders to fight alongside him, not healing him. It would make more sense if Lucas was the first boss and Matthew was further up the list, rather than just having all the exes fight Scott chronologically. It's almost as if Gideon rigged the fight in his favor and didn't expect Scott to be defeated so early on.

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* Also in the first episode, the amount of coins Old Scott leaves to trick the others into thinking Matthew had defeated Young Scott is indicative of his own sense of self, self; he literally left the amount he believed he was worth, almost nothing.
** Or seeing how Scott is was still living with Wallace in the future at the time and doesn't seem employed, employed that could [[OccamsRazor just be all the money he had at the moment.]]
* During the battle with Gideon in the original comics both Scott and Ramona were hit with [[MindRape The]] [[BlackBugRoom Glow]]. ''That's'' what [[{{Enforced}} made]] [[AesopAmnesia made Future Scott forget to respect himself and women people and be more mature and Future Ramona forget she can't run from relationships when they get tough]].
** This means Even Older Scott using his [[PsychicPowers vegan powers]] on Gideon isn't just a means way of saying ShutUpHannibal; it's likely because he not only blames Gideon for having a major role in ruining his life but the [[VillainRespect compliment he gave regarding his plans]] [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame [[BerserkButton likely struck a nerve with him]]. [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame One of the ''last things'' the]] ''[[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame last things]]'' [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame Even Older Scott needed to hear hear]] was his [[ArchEnemy greatest foe]] speaking positively about him.
* Matthew Patel of all characters becoming an AdaptationalBadass when he gets a confidence boost from beating Scott makes sense -- out of all the Evil Exes he and Todd are the only ones with actual superpowers with while the others are just being more [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower superhuman in their abilities]]. And unlike Todd, Matthew's powers don't come with conditions like following a certain dietary lifestyle. It's possible Matthew was always the strongest of the Evil Exes but his lack of confidence in himself limited his abilities, allowing Scott to beat him easily when they fought in the comics. Also, you have to compare him to Lucas Lee, the second ex Scott has to fight. Matthew has mystic powers, can summon allies through the demon hipster girls, and can heal himself. Whereas, Whereas Lucas is just really strong and has stunt doubles/skateboarders to fight alongside him, not healing him. It would make more sense if Lucas was the first boss and Matthew was further up the list, list rather than just having all the exes fight Scott chronologically. It's almost as if Gideon rigged the fight in his favor and didn't expect Scott to be defeated so early on.
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* Scott says that Super Ramona is a reference to [[VideoGame/Sonic3AndKnuckles Sonic the Hedgehog 3]], despite Super Sonic as a form first appearing in VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2, something that Even Older Scott even calls out. Take a look at Super Ramona for a second; her entire body is golden, not just her hair. Scott isn't referencing Super Sonic, he's referencing Super '''''Mecha''''' Sonic Mk. II, one of the final bosses of the game, and who similarly has its body completely golden instead of just the quills.
** It's also entirely possible he just never got the Chaos Emeralds in the second game. [[ThatOneLevel Those things can be absolute hell to complete.]]
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** Somewhat mitigated by the fact that seeing the kind of man he would become in the future seems to have given him a pretty heavy wake-up call anyway. One of the first things he does after coming back to the present is come clean to Knives and apologize, showing that Scott is at least on the right track now.

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** Somewhat mitigated by the fact for present Scott, in that seeing the kind of man he would become in the future seems to have given him been a pretty heavy wake-up call anyway.call. One of the first things he does after coming back to the present is come clean to Knives and apologize, showing that Scott is at least on the right track now.
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**Somewhat mitigated by the fact that seeing the kind of man he would become in the future seems to have given him a pretty heavy wake-up call anyway. One of the first things he does after coming back to the present is come clean to Knives and apologize, showing that Scott is at least on the right track now.
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* During the battle with Even Older Scott, he briefly looks surprised when Matthew Patel uses his powers to create extra arms and start pummeling him. Makes sense, since in the timeline Even Older Scott came from Matthew never had those powers, and as Even Older Scott mentions "study[ing] all of your skills" during his training, of course he wouldn't know how to counter this initially.
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* Future Ramona probably never reached out to Scott during their separation because like in the comics, she reacted to the emotional turmoil by loafing around her house. This is noted to be something she has in common with Scott in the comics, and something semi-jokingly used as a reason why they deserve each other. Here this similarity is played for drama, because they both ended up self-isolating.
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** Even that makes sense for subspace sense their distance bending/time dilation properties could reasonably be applied to time travel.

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* During the battle with Gideon in the original comic both Scott and Ramona were hit with The Glow. ''That'' is what [[AesopAmnesia made Future Scott forget how to respect himself and women and be more mature and made Future Ramona forget she can't just run from relationships when they get tough]].
* Matthew Patel, of all characters, becoming an AdaptationalBadass when he gets a confidence boost from beating Scott makes sense -- out of all the Evil Exes, he and Todd are the only exes with actual superpowers with the others being just more [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower superhuman in their abilities]]. And unlike Todd, Matthew's powers don't come with conditions like following a certain dietary lifestyle. It's possible Matthew was always the strongest of the Evil Exes but his lack of confidence in himself limited his abilities, allowing Scott to beat him easily when they fought in the comics. Also, you have to compare him to Lucas Lee, the second ex Scott has to fight. Matthew has mystic powers, can summon allies through the demon hipster girls, and can heal himself. Whereas, Lucas is just really strong and has stunt doubles/skateboarders to fight alongside him, not healing him. It would make more sense if Lucas was the first boss and Matthew was further up the list, rather than just having all the exes fight Scott chronologically. It's almost as if Gideon rigged the fight in his favor and didn't expect Scott to be defeated so early on.

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* During the battle with Gideon in the original comic comics both Scott and Ramona were hit with The Glow. ''That'' is [[MindRape The]] [[BlackBugRoom Glow]]. ''That's'' what [[AesopAmnesia made Future Scott forget how to respect himself and women and be more mature and made Future Ramona forget she can't just run from relationships when they get tough]].
** This means Even Older Scott using his [[PsychicPowers vegan powers]] on Gideon isn't just a means of saying ShutUpHannibal; it's likely because he not only blames Gideon for having a major role in ruining his life but the [[VillainRespect compliment he gave regarding his plans]] [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame likely struck a nerve with him]]. One of the ''last things'' Even Older Scott needed to hear was his [[ArchEnemy greatest foe]] speaking positively about him.
* Matthew Patel, Patel of all characters, characters becoming an AdaptationalBadass when he gets a confidence boost from beating Scott makes sense -- out of all the Evil Exes, Exes he and Todd are the only exes ones with actual superpowers with the others just being just more [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower superhuman in their abilities]]. And unlike Todd, Matthew's powers don't come with conditions like following a certain dietary lifestyle. It's possible Matthew was always the strongest of the Evil Exes but his lack of confidence in himself limited his abilities, allowing Scott to beat him easily when they fought in the comics. Also, you have to compare him to Lucas Lee, the second ex Scott has to fight. Matthew has mystic powers, can summon allies through the demon hipster girls, and can heal himself. Whereas, Lucas is just really strong and has stunt doubles/skateboarders to fight alongside him, not healing him. It would make more sense if Lucas was the first boss and Matthew was further up the list, rather than just having all the exes fight Scott chronologically. It's almost as if Gideon rigged the fight in his favor and didn't expect Scott to be defeated so early on.



* Even Older Scott is strictly a BareFistedMonk despite the fact past Scott Pilgrims literally have Sword proficiency as a trait. However, he is a man without the Power of Love (via his and Ramona’s separation), the comic canon’s Power of Understanding (as he can’t come to terms with said separation) or the film’s Power of Self Respect (as he resents his younger self and refuses to trust him in making his own decisions.) Meaning none of Scott’s character development based swords are available to him.

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* Even Older Scott is strictly a BareFistedMonk despite the fact past Scott Pilgrims literally have Sword sword proficiency as a trait. However, he is a man without the Power of Love (via his and Ramona’s separation), the comic canon’s comic’s Power of Understanding (as he can’t come to terms with said separation) or the film’s Power of Self Respect (as he resents his younger self and refuses to trust him in making his own decisions.) decisions). Meaning none of Scott’s character development based CharacterDevelopment-based swords are available to him.



* Even Older Scott using his [[PsychicPowers vegan powers]] on Gideon isn't just a means of saying ShutUpHannibal; it's likely because Gideon's [[VillainRespect compliment regarding his plans]] [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame struck a nerve with him]]. One of the ''last things'' Even Older Scott needed to hear was his [[ArchEnemy greatest foe]] speaking positively about him.

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* Future Ramona being able to jury-rig time-traveling rollerblades out of 'some parts she got from a [[Franchise/BackToTheFuture Delorian]]' might seem handwavey at first. But when you consider the fact that much earlier in the series, Ramona in the present was able to access Scott's dreams via subspace and even hear his voice despite Scott currently being ''14 years in the FUTURE'', it starts making sense that Ramona could use subspace highways to travel through time.

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* Future Ramona being able to jury-rig time-traveling rollerblades out of 'some parts she got from a [[Franchise/BackToTheFuture Delorian]]' Delorean]]' might seem handwavey {{Hand Wave}}y at first. But when you consider the fact that much earlier in the series, Ramona in the present was able to access Scott's dreams via subspace and even hear his voice despite Scott currently being ''14 years in the FUTURE'', it starts making sense that Ramona could use subspace highways to travel through time.



* For his fight with Matthew, Gideon bet everything he had, including his underwear, and the result was legally binding. That's why he went back to call himself Gordon Goose - Matthew ''won his legal name''. Though he either didn't know Gideon Gordon Graves wasn't his real name or didn't care, so he continued calling himself Matthew Patel.
* Gideon attempts to use The Glow on Even Older Scott during his fight with the Evil Exes, which Even Older Scott completely shrugs off. Even Older Scott is so far in his head already The Glow ''can't'' make things worse.
* Every other adaptation is, in some part, referenced. Naturally, the original ''Scott Pilgrim's Precious Little Life'' film references the actual movie. Old Scott's memory tape is made up of individual frames from the course of the original story, sort of like a comic, and it's watched with the Virtual Guuy, which in real life is used to play video games. A fringe case could be made as well for Old Young Neil's memoir, as it's an actual book that the screenplay was based on.

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* For his fight with Matthew, Gideon bet everything he had, including his underwear, and the result was legally binding. That's why he went back to call himself Gordon Goose - Matthew ''won his legal name''. Though he either didn't know Gideon Gordon Graves wasn't his real name or didn't care, care so he continued calling himself Matthew Patel.
* Even Older Scott using his [[PsychicPowers vegan powers]] on Gideon isn't just a means of saying ShutUpHannibal; it's likely because Gideon's [[VillainRespect compliment regarding his plans]] [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame struck a nerve with him]]. One of the ''last things'' Even Older Scott needed to hear was his [[ArchEnemy greatest foe]] speaking positively about him.
* Gideon attempts to use The Glow on Even Older Scott during his fight with the Evil Exes, Exes which Even Older Scott completely shrugs off. Even Older Scott is so far in his head already The Glow ''can't'' make things worse.
* Every other adaptation is, is referenced in some part, referenced.part. Naturally, the original ''Scott Pilgrim's Precious Little Life'' film references the actual movie. Old Scott's memory tape is made up of individual frames from the course of the original story, sort of like a comic, and it's watched with the Virtual Guuy, which in real life is used to play video games. A fringe case could be made as well for Old Young Neil's memoir, as it's an actual book that the screenplay was based on.



* When Even Older Scott kidnaps Scott, Ramona, their friends and the Evil Exes to fight them he leaves Envy behind in spite of her status as TheOneWhoGotAway and her help in the original timeline... Because his previous kidnapping of Scott and the consequent lack of the battle with Todd prevented her from starting to have closure, and in the timeline he was trying to prevent she and Scott likely never returned to be friends.

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* When Even Older Scott kidnaps Scott, Ramona, their friends and the Evil Exes to fight them he leaves Envy behind in spite of her status as TheOneWhoGotAway TheOneThatGotAway and her help in the original timeline... Because his previous kidnapping of Scott and the consequent lack of the battle with Todd prevented her from starting to have closure, closure and in the timeline he was trying to prevent she and Scott likely never returned to be friends.



* In the original continuity, Gideon had cryogenically frozen several women so he can make them his future girlfriends. Unless Matthew freed them while he ran Gideon's empire, they're still trapped, and Scott and Ramona have no reason to know or save them.
** There's also the matter of the Glow and its effects on Ramona and Scott, if it exists in this continuity.

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* In the original continuity, continuity Gideon had cryogenically frozen several women so he can make them his future girlfriends. Unless Matthew freed them while he ran Gideon's empire, they're still trapped, trapped and Scott and Ramona have no reason to know or save them.
** There's also the matter of the Glow and its effects on Ramona and Scott, if it exists in this continuity.Scott.
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* Due to Old Scott's action, not only did he undo all of Scott's character growth from the books, he also completely RetGone Nega-Scott.

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* Due to Old Scott's action, not only did he actions essentially undo all of Scott's character growth from the books, he also completely RetGone Nega-Scott.including not allowing him to face his flaws in the form of Nega-Scott. And Even Older Scott bears a striking similarity to Nega-Scott, especially once his eyes start glowing during the final fight.

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* When in episode 5 the director has Todd kiss Wallace to interrupt Todd and Envy's makeout sessions, Envy is stunned in horror the moment the director tells Todd to look at Wallace, almost as if she realized what was going to happen... Because she did: she and Wallace got acquainted back when she was dating Scott and knew both that Wallace hated her and that he had the habit of stealing Stacie's boyfriends, Wallace somehow talking the director into having her boyfriend kiss him was ''exactly'' the kind of stunt she should have seen coming. She was just so surprised and horrified she couldn't stop it.

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* When in episode 5 the director has Todd kiss Wallace to interrupt Todd and Envy's makeout sessions, Envy is stunned in horror the moment the director tells Todd to look at Wallace, almost as if she realized what was going to happen... Because she did: she and Wallace got acquainted back when she was dating Scott and knew both that Wallace hated her and that he had the habit of stealing Stacie's boyfriends, boyfriends by making them gay, Wallace somehow talking the director into having her boyfriend kiss him was ''exactly'' the kind of stunt she should have seen coming. She was just so surprised and horrified she couldn't stop it.
* When Even Older Scott kidnaps Scott, Ramona, their friends and the Evil Exes to fight them he leaves Envy behind in spite of her status as TheOneWhoGotAway and her help in the original timeline... Because his previous kidnapping of Scott and the consequent lack of the battle with Todd prevented her from starting to have closure, and in the timeline he was trying to prevent she and Scott likely never returned to be friends.
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** Alternatively, it could be that this is just something they've expected for a while now, given Kim's remarks about Scott always taking on "higher level enemies".
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* Every other adaptation is, in some part, referenced. Naturally, the original ''Scott Pilgrim's Precious Little Life'' film references the actual movie. Old Scott's memory tape is made up of individual frames from the course of the original story, sort of like a comic, and it's watched with the Virtual Guuy, which in real life is used to play video games. A fringe case could be made as well for Old Young Niel's memoir, as it's an actual book that the screenplay was based on.

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* Every other adaptation is, in some part, referenced. Naturally, the original ''Scott Pilgrim's Precious Little Life'' film references the actual movie. Old Scott's memory tape is made up of individual frames from the course of the original story, sort of like a comic, and it's watched with the Virtual Guuy, which in real life is used to play video games. A fringe case could be made as well for Old Young Niel's Neil's memoir, as it's an actual book that the screenplay was based on.
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* Due to Old Scott's action, not only did he undo all of Scott's character growth from the books, he also completely RetGone Nega-Scott.

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* When in episode 5 the director has Todd kiss Wallace to interrupt Todd and Envy's makeout sessions, Envy is stunned in horror the moment the director tells Todd to look at Wallace, almost as if she realized what was going to happen... Because she did: she and Wallace got acquainted back when she was dating Scott and knew both that Wallace hated her and that he had the habit of stealing Stacie's boyfriends, Wallace somehow talking the director into having her boyfriend kiss him was ''exactly'' the kind of stunt she should have seen coming. She was just so surprised and horrified she couldn't stop it.
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* The first time we see an older version of Scott, he's still wearing his ComicBook/XMen jacket. Guess which superhero team is known for getting into an absurd amount of TimeTravel shenanigans.
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* Every other adaptation is, in some part, referenced. Naturally, the original ''Scott Pilgrim's Precious Little Life'' film references the actual movie. Old Scott's memory tape is made up of individual frames from the course of the original story, sort of like a comic, and it's watched with the Virtual Guuy, which in real life is used to play video games. A fringe case could be made as well for Old Young Niel's memoir, as it's an actual book that the screenplay was based on.
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* Gideon attempts to use The Glow on Even Older Scott during his fight with the Evil Exes, which Even Older Scott completely shrugs off. Even Older Scott is so far in his head already The Glow ''can't'' make things worse.

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* For his fight with Matthew, Gideon bet everything he had, including his underwear, and the result was legally binding. That's why he went back to call himself Gordon Goose - Matthew ''won his legal name''. Though he either didn't know Gideon Gordon Graves wasn't his real name or didn't care, so he continued calling himself Matthew Patel.

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* In the first episode, when Scott apparently dies his friends are shocked and horrified, but Julie, in contrast to the comic, smiles. Either at this point she hates Scott that much for breaking Envy's heart, or she saw the coins and thought he'd respawn and decided to enjoy his humiliation.

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* Even Older Scott is strictly a BareFistedMonk despite the fact past Scott Pilgrims literally have Sword proficiency as a trait. However, he is a man without the Power of Love (via his and Ramona’s separation), the comic canon’s Power of Understanding (as he can’t come to terms with said separation) or the film’s Power of Self Respect (as he resents his younger self and refuses to trust him in making his own decisions.) Meaning none of Scott’s character development based swords are available to him.
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* Future Ramona being able to jury-rig time-traveling rollerblades out of 'some parts she got from a [[Franchise/BackToTheFuture Delorian]]' might seem handwavey at first. But when you consider the fact that much earlier in the series, Ramona in the present was able to access Scott's dreams via subspace and even hear his voice despite Scott currently being ''14 years in the FUTURE'', it starts making sense that Ramona could use subspace highways to travel through time.
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* In the first episode, the original ''VideoGame/PacMan'' trivia pickup line that Scott belays to Ramona on their first encounter is instead changed to trivia about how ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' used to have two different versions of a cartoon show running at the same time, one that was [[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog lighthearted and comedic]], and the other which was [[WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM darker and serious]]. At the end of the episode, the twist is revealed that ''Takes Off'' is in and of itself a different version of the ''Scott Pilgrim'' story, but it's taken a step further when the antagonist is revealed to be an older version of Scott whose story had accurately followed the original books. We end up with two versions of Scott being present at the same time; one with a more naïve outlook who wants to make his own decisions, and one who's lived through ordeals that turned him into a darker (though still immature) person.

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* In the first episode, the original ''VideoGame/PacMan'' trivia pickup line that Scott belays attempts to impart on Ramona on their first encounter is instead changed to trivia about how ''Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog'' used to have two different versions of a cartoon show running at the same time, one that was [[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog lighthearted and comedic]], and the other which was [[WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM darker and serious]]. At the end of the episode, the twist is revealed that ''Takes Off'' is in and of itself a different version of the ''Scott Pilgrim'' story, but it's taken a step further when the antagonist is revealed to be an older version of Scott whose story had accurately followed the original books. We end up with two versions of Scott being present at the same time; one with a more naïve outlook who wants to make his own decisions, and one who's lived through ordeals that turned him into a darker (though still immature) person.
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* The final episode ends with a little chiptune cover of [[Music/TheBeachBoys 'God Only Knows']] that plays while we see the characters finally getting ready to move on with their lives. Being one of the finest and most beautiful love songs in the world, it's also being praised as a very realistic depiction of love, with its highs and lows through life, and even the protagonist singing says that they may not be sure if love will go on forever, or if the person they love will always love them back, and the chorus even states that only God Himself knows what will happen if the relationship and love eventually ends. This mirrors practically all of the Scott Pilgrim's franchise take on their endings, as we never know what will happen in the future, and if the love the characters fought so hard for will always be there, but for now, there IS love, and love is there for them.
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** Also, Neptune is the eighth and farthest planet from the Sun, as Even Older Scott is the eighth evil ex and the furthest along in the timeline.
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** There's also the matter of the Glow and its effects on Ramona and Scott, if it exists in this continuity.

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** There's also the matter of the Glow and its effects on Ramona and Scott, if it exists in this continuity.continuity.
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