History Fridge / RedDeadRedemption

7th Nov '17 2:31:27 AM SergeshD123
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* [[spoiler: Jack may have been able to get away with killing Ross had he simply learn Ross's location through a more discreet different mean. Unlike Ross's wife and brother, who can be killed in the middle of nowhere at a time when forensic is still a fledgling field, it is not possible to kill the agent in the beginning without alerting the public from a story standpoint. In short, by learning about Ross's location from a person in a public place that can't be discreetly silenced, Jack is doomed to be traced down and convicted of murder by the agent he talked to]]
14th Oct '17 8:08:36 PM BeastC
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** [[spoiler:There's also the positioning of Ross at the river. Chances are, the majority of players who kill him will send his corpse flying backwards and washed away by the current. Even from a gameplay perspective, killing Ross won't give you any rewards like money you can loot from his body.]]
26th Jul '17 5:24:38 AM DoctorNemesis
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** To some degree, both this and the above are also likely GameplayAndStorySegregation in order to give the player as broad a range of 'Old West' environments to explore within the realm of the open world as possible without making the game world too big as to spoil the fun or push the game engine beyond its breaking points.
6th Jul '17 3:52:07 PM ThraggLootrippa
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* Edgar Ross sending the army against John and killing him could be justified that John REALLY is to dangerous to be let alive. John is not at all a bad person, but he only fights and kills people for a good cause, in the story he does all the things to save his family. When he rode in the gang with Dutch he thought they did all the things they did for a greater good. So give John a good enough reason to kill and he will kill. Have in mind that John have rather casually spoke out saying it is the government that is making him do their dirty work to almost everyone he met. It is no secret that John is trying to save his family. A common thieve gets the idea that he can get John to do some work for him by kidnapping his family, hiding them somewhere treating that if John kills him they will die. John would be forced to do the work of some thieve, and being John Marston he is a nearly unstoppable killing machine. The only reason he let himself die at the hands of the army was to save his family giving them enough time to escape, he could easily have toppled them if not having to worry about the safety of his family. So John would for his family's safety, and Ross knows that.

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* Edgar Ross sending the army Army against John and killing him could be justified that John REALLY is to too dangerous to be let left alive. John is not at all a bad person, but person; he only fights and kills people for a good cause, and in the story he does all the things everything to save his family. When he rode in the gang with Dutch Dutch, he thought they did all the things they did for a greater good. So give John a good enough reason to kill and he will kill. Have kill, and can kill a lot of people by himself. Keep in mind that John have rather casually spoke out saying it is speaks about the government that is making him do their dirty work to almost everyone he met.met along the way. It is no secret that John is trying to save his family. A As an example, a common thieve thief gets the idea that he can get John to do some work for him by kidnapping his family, hiding them somewhere treating and implying that if John kills him they will die. John would be forced to do the work of some thieve, thief, and being John Marston he is a nearly unstoppable killing machine. The only reason he let himself die at the hands of the army Army was to save his family by giving them enough time to escape, and he could easily have toppled them if not having to worry about the safety of his family. So John would do anything for his family's safety, and Ross knows that.
16th Sep '16 1:58:39 PM FF32
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** Although this got a HopeSpot 4 years later with the release of GrandTheftAutoV : [[spoiler: Some bookshelves have a copy of a book titled "Red Dead", written by a certain J. Marston. Which would mean that at some point after the playable epilogue, Jack did settle down and write at least one book.]] Hey, you take hope where you can find it...

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** Although this got a HopeSpot 4 years later with the release of GrandTheftAutoV VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoV : [[spoiler: Some bookshelves have a copy of a book titled "Red Dead", written by a certain J. Marston. Which would mean that at some point after the playable epilogue, Jack did settle down and write at least one book.]] Hey, you take hope where you can find it...
5th Sep '16 6:37:56 PM Embryon
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*** Probably just John -- when Abigail and John are travelling from Beecher's Hope to MacFarlane's Ranch, John asks her where she and Jack were held captive, and her response is "I ain't sure. (...) Can't have been too far from here, though."
5th Sep '16 6:26:39 PM Embryon
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* J Edgar Hoover was at the time considered a heroic figure by some, but later reviled for some his sins, (and supposedly is also remembered as a crossdresser).Both him and J Edgar Ross,(who at the time is considered a Heroic Figure by history) were part of the Universe's version of the FBI. So eventually J Edgar Ross will get hammered by history.

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* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Edgar_Hoover J Edgar Hoover Hoover]] was at the time considered a heroic figure by some, but later reviled for some his sins, (and supposedly is also remembered as a crossdresser).reactionary convictions and his sanction of illegal activities (including blackmail). Both him he and J Edgar Ross,(who Ross (who at the time is considered a Heroic Figure by history) were part of the Universe's version of the FBI. So eventually eventually, J Edgar Ross will get hammered by history.
27th Aug '16 5:04:26 AM valar55
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** Or Irish was right for once, and the actually were doxies.

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** Or Irish was right for once, and the they actually were ''were'' doxies.
19th Jul '16 1:56:50 PM AnotherGuy
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* [[spoiler: Killing Edgar's wife and brother nets -50 Honor each. However, killing Edgar nets +100 Honor. The game is telling even a player with maximum honor it's okay do deal some LaserGuidedKarma to Ross, in revenge for Abigail and Uncle.]]
8th Jul '16 7:01:35 AM Morgenthaler
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* [[spoiler: It is heavily implied that the reason why Jack is as good a gunslinger as his father in the three years between "[[BolivianArmyEnding The Last Enemy That Shall Be Destroyed]]" and his mother's death is because he was trained by Landon Ricketts. The final newspaper in the game has an article about how famous gunslinger [[TheObiWan Landon Ricketts]] moved back to the States three years ago (when John Marston died), and sometimes after killing someone Jack will proclaim "[[TheObiWan Landon Ricketts]], eat your heart out!"]]

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* [[spoiler: It is heavily implied that the reason why Jack is as good a gunslinger as his father in the three years between "[[BolivianArmyEnding The Last Enemy That Shall Be Destroyed]]" and his mother's death is because he was trained by Landon Ricketts. The final newspaper in the game has an article about how famous gunslinger [[TheObiWan Landon Ricketts]] Ricketts moved back to the States three years ago (when John Marston died), and sometimes after killing someone Jack will proclaim "[[TheObiWan Landon Ricketts]], "Landon Ricketts, eat your heart out!"]]
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