History Fridge / RedDeadRedemption

16th May '16 10:41:09 AM bannermanner
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* The ending. [[spoiler: The story ends with John's death. "Remember My Family" is not a Story mission, but a Stranger mission. You are not forced to go after Edgar Ross. The mission is entirely optional. The player, not Jack, ultimately chooses whether or not John's sacrifice was in vain. And considering how little joy there is in gunning Edgar down, it's a pretty strong indictment of the desire for vengeance.]]
7th Feb '16 7:37:17 PM moloch
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** I've always just thought that he was throwing up seeing De Sanata and the waiter hanging all over each other.

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** I've always just thought that he was throwing up seeing De Sanata Santa and the waiter hanging all over each other.other.
** Given that he looks to be puking yellow bile, he's probably just been drinking hard on an empty stomach.
5th Feb '16 4:27:55 AM moloch
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* Why does Snake Oil refill your Dead-Eye meter? Because "dead-eye" isn't a "real" thing, but more a concentration mechanic. So of course it's possible to affect it with a placebo. Maybe John believes in it ''just enough'' to feel like he can pull off his uncanny accuracy again.
7th Nov '15 5:37:42 PM nombretomado
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* In ''RedDeadRedemption's'' BitterSweetEnding, [[spoiler: corrupt bureau agent Edgar Ross murders protagonist John Marston, but in the epilogue, he gets his just desserts from John's son, Jack. Not a 100% happy ending, but it's not entirely a downer... until you realize that Jack, being forced to become a jaded bounty hunter that is most likely on the law's shit list, was ''exactly what John had been trying to prevent the whole game''.]]

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* In ''RedDeadRedemption's'' the BitterSweetEnding, [[spoiler: corrupt bureau agent Edgar Ross murders protagonist John Marston, but in the epilogue, he gets his just desserts from John's son, Jack. Not a 100% happy ending, but it's not entirely a downer... until you realize that Jack, being forced to become a jaded bounty hunter that is most likely on the law's shit list, was ''exactly what John had been trying to prevent the whole game''.]]
21st Aug '15 2:32:59 PM FlyingPete
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** Or Irish was right for once, and the actually were doxies.
18th Jan '15 2:52:08 PM scrooge20mcduck
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* J Edgar Hoover was at the time considered a heroic figure by some, but later reviled for some his sins, (and supposedly is also remembered as a crossdresser).Both him and J Edgar Ross,(who at the time is considered a Heroic Figure by history) were part of the Universe's version of the FBI. So eventually J Edgar Ross will get hammered by history.
* Jack will likely get away with his crime. And in four years will be able to enlist in the army in WWI, Considering his fighting skill, he could possibly rise quite high in the army, after the war he might settle down, or take up a life of adventure in africa.



* * RDR is actually alternate history, with New Austin/West Elizibeth being whole new states. However, the geographic location is very strange. West Elizibeth seems to be a province located near between New Mexico and Lousiana...yet has snow capped mountains and forest area. And if so then Texas must be a lot smaller forNew Austin to fit in.

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* * RDR is actually alternate history, with New Austin/West Elizibeth Elizabeth being whole new states. However, the geographic location is very strange. West Elizibeth Elizabeth seems to be a province located near between New Mexico and Lousiana...yet has snow capped mountains and forest area. And if so then Texas must be a lot smaller forNew Austin to fit in.



* J Edgar Hoover was at the time considered a heroic figure by some, but later reviled for some his sins, (and supposedly is also remembered as a crossdresser).Both him and J Edgar Ross,(who at the time is considered a Heroic Figure by history) were part of the Universe's version of the FBI. So eventually J Edgar Ross will get hammered by history.
* Jack will likely get away with his crime. And in four years will be able to enlist in the army in WWI, Considering his fighting skill, he could possibly rise quite high in the army, after the war he might settle down, or take up a life of adventure in africa.
18th Jan '15 2:49:54 PM scrooge20mcduck
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** Likewise, John and Jack joking about "the day John Marston stops shooting". [[spoiler:He really did end up firing his last bullets that day...]]

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** Likewise, John and Jack joking about "the day John Marston stops shooting". [[spoiler:He [[spoiler:John really did end up firing his last bullets that day...]]
18th Jan '15 2:49:01 PM scrooge20mcduck
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** Likewise, John and Jack joking about "the day John Marston stops shooting". [[spoiler:He really did end up firing his last bullets that day...]]
18th Jan '15 2:22:55 PM scrooge20mcduck
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** [[spoiler:"Jack" is a nickname for "John." Jack is a SonOfAWhore like his father. When Jack inherits player character status, he gets John's Fame and Honor stats because he ''is'' "John Marston".]]

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** * [[spoiler:"Jack" is a nickname for "John." Jack is a SonOfAWhore like his father. When Jack inherits player character status, he gets John's Fame and Honor stats because he ''is'' "John Marston".]]
18th Jan '15 2:22:12 PM scrooge20mcduck
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** [[spoiler: It is heavily implied that the reason why Jack is as good a gunslinger as his father in the three years between "[[BolivianArmyEnding The Last Enemy That Shall Be Destroyed]]" and his mother's death is because he was trained by [[TheObiWan Landon Ricketts]]. The final newspaper in the game has an article about how famous gunslinger [[TheObiWan Landon Ricketts]] moved back to the States three years ago (when John Marston died), and sometimes after killing someone Jack will proclaim "[[TheObiWan Landon Ricketts]], eat your heart out!"]]
** The Epilogue is FULL of this, particularly in the conversation with [[spoiler: Ms. Ross]] and the fact that [[spoiler: Edgar's NotSoDifferent speech may not have just been empty posturing.]]

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** * [[spoiler: It is heavily implied that the reason why Jack is as good a gunslinger as his father in the three years between "[[BolivianArmyEnding The Last Enemy That Shall Be Destroyed]]" and his mother's death is because he was trained by [[TheObiWan Landon Ricketts]]. The final newspaper in the game has an article about how famous gunslinger [[TheObiWan Landon Ricketts]] moved back to the States three years ago (when John Marston died), and sometimes after killing someone Jack will proclaim "[[TheObiWan Landon Ricketts]], eat your heart out!"]]
** * The Epilogue is FULL of this, particularly in the conversation with [[spoiler: Ms. Ross]] and the fact that [[spoiler: Edgar's NotSoDifferent speech may not have just been empty posturing.]]



** Muller being in Mexico becomes much funnier when you remember the Zimmerman Telegram.

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** * Muller being in Mexico becomes much funnier when you remember the Zimmerman Telegram.
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