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* Several of the prosecutors boast a flawless, or nearly flawless, win record (not counting Godot, since he had no career prior to T&T). They say explicitly that all they cared about was getting a conviction, not finding the truth. Edgeworth himself said he "used every dirty trick in the book". That's potentially a LOT of innocent people they've convicted. Especially from the oldest and most selfish, Manfred von Karma.
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* Dahlia's hairstyle makes more sense after a first glance and her actions in the game are assessed. At first those fancy braids may refer to her prissy elegant appearance, but they can also resemble curved-forward horns (made more obvious with her red hair), something that's usually associated with ''demons''.
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* In the second case, Godot hid crucial evidence from Gumshoe. Narratively, this was rule of drama, but it also makes sense for the character- [[spoiler:he used to be a defense attorney, so he’s probably used to hiding evidence from detectives.]]
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* We learn across the second and third games that the events of the DL-6 case basically ruined the Fey family, causing Misty to vanish, Mia to take up law instead of the family business, and setting in motion the entire drama around Morgan and her daughters. But we know that spirit channeling is real, so how did it end up going so wrong? Was it the failure of the prosecution to prove their case? No, because Yanni Yogi really didn't shoot Gregory Edgeworth. The truth was, he never saw who shot him. When channeled from beyond the grave, Gregory Edgeworth believed that only the two people in the elevator with him could have been the cause of his death...and rather than admit that he had passed out and didn't remember being shot, he named the one of those people who wasn't his only son. ''Gregory Edgeworth ruined the Fey family by lying to protect his son.''
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* One that doesn't hit you on the first playthrough. Iris gets a chance to see Phoenix after years and after she's arrested Larry tells her that he's dying. When you know that she's in love with him such news are pretty devastating on it's own, now add the fact that he ran across the bridge because he suspected Maya might be in danger after finding Elise's body. Which he wouldn't have if Iris didn't tamper with it. Given Iris's GuiltComplex one can only imagine how hellish these few hours were for her before she found out that he'll be fine.
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**This is confirmed in Miles Edgeworth investigations 2
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* Franziska says the word "Fool" a lot- to the point where it stops being grammatically correct. But that actually makes perfect sense- she grew up in Germany, likely speaking German. She probably doesn't know enough English to always know the right synonym for "fool", so she goes with the word she does know instead of trying to guess words she doesn't know.

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* So, we know that Edgeworth had [[spoiler:severe PTSD after DL-6]]. We know he's repressing the memory of everything that happened in the elevator, and that he doesn't fully recall it or understand it until [[spoiler: hoenix presents enough evidence to explain what happened]]. Given that the magatama hasn't come into the games yet, but also considering the developments it receives in ''Apollo Justice'' and ''Dual Destinies'', this could mean that the last day of case 1-4 boils down to [[spoiler:breaking Edgeworth's Black Psych-Locks]].
* A very minor one from ''Rise of the Ashes'', again. At one point in the trial the Judge asks Edgeworth if an old case being dug up again is relevant to the case at hand, and Edgeworth replies that yes, indeed, it does hare relevance. The Judge gives in quickly, and Phoenix remarks that that was surprisingly quick. Apparently he's forgotten that the exact same thing happened not even three months ago, during ''Turnabout Goodbyes'', involving the same judge, prosecutor and even the same defense attorney.

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* So, we know that Edgeworth had [[spoiler:severe PTSD after DL-6]]. We know he's repressing the memory of everything that happened in the elevator, and that he doesn't fully recall it or understand it until [[spoiler: hoenix Pheonix presents enough evidence to explain what happened]]. Given that the magatama Magatama hasn't come into the games yet, but also considering the developments it receives in ''Apollo Justice'' and ''Dual Destinies'', this could mean that the last day of case 1-4 boils down to [[spoiler:breaking [[spoiler: breaking Edgeworth's Black Psych-Locks]].
* A very minor one from ''Rise of the Ashes'', again. At one point in the trial trial, the Judge asks Edgeworth if an old case being dug up again is relevant to the case at hand, and Edgeworth replies that yes, indeed, it does hare have relevance. The Judge gives in quickly, and Phoenix remarks that that was surprisingly quick. Apparently he's forgotten that the exact same thing happened not even three months ago, during ''Turnabout Goodbyes'', involving the same judge, prosecutor and even the same defense attorney.attorney.
* At the beginning of Rise From the Ashes, Phoenix struggles with being alone for the trial. At the end, Lana makes a deal out of telling Edgeworth about he wasn't alone in the courtroom- but, she could also be trying to indirectly tell Phoenix the same message that he and Edgeworth are able to work together, even if neither has an assistant or ally at the time.
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** And of course Phoenix [[TwinSwitch couldn't tell them apart]]. [[RunningGag He can only identify three kinds of flowers]].
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* Bikini immediately assuming that Phoenix is looking for a girlfriend when he asks about Iris looks pretty weird, even with her naughtiness. But Iris said that she would never hide anything from her, meaning she probably knew about Iris and Phoenix. Obviously Bikini haven't met Phoenix before, but when a guy around Iris' age came to the temple and started asking about her she figured out who he is.
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* When Bikini learned that Phoenix have met Morgan's daughter she assumes he already knows that Iris is another one. Of course that's what she thinks. She thinks that Morgan has two daughters, Iris and Dahlia, and if Phoenix have met Dahlia he'd know that Iris is the other one being her twin.
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* One bothersome thing about ''JFA'' was the acquisition of the magatama -- Phoenix had always done perfectly fine without it in the first game, but it became a major gameplay element in the second. Given Edgeworth's "Logic" ability from ''AAI'' (and [[WMG/AceAttorney Mia's hypothetical ability]]), by comparison Phoenix doesn't have any natural ability for being a lawyer. This actually makes sense, since he changed career paths very suddenly, for a specific reason. (Apollo's ability was natural, but bolstered by his bracelet, so it's likely that he just found a good line of work to use his skill in.)

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* One bothersome thing about ''JFA'' was the acquisition of the magatama -- Phoenix had always done perfectly fine without it in the first game, but it became a major gameplay element in the second. Given Edgeworth's "Logic" ability from ''AAI'' (and [[WMG/AceAttorney Mia's hypothetical ability]]), by comparison Phoenix doesn't have any natural ability for being a lawyer. This actually makes sense, since he changed career paths very suddenly, for a specific reason.suddenly. (Apollo's ability was natural, but bolstered by his bracelet, so it's likely that he just found a good line of work to use his skill in.)
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* One bothersome thing about ''JFA'' was the acquisition of the magatama -- Phoenix had always done perfectly fine without it in the first game, but it became a major gameplay element in the second. Given Edgeworth's "Logic" ability from ''AAI'' (and [[WMG/AceAttorney Mia's hypothetical ability]]), by comparison Phoenix doesn't have any natural ability for being a lawyer. This actually makes sense, since he [[HoYay changed career paths very suddenly, for a specific reason]]. (Apollo's ability was natural, but bolstered by his bracelet, so it's likely that he just found a good line of work to use his skill in.)

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* One bothersome thing about ''JFA'' was the acquisition of the magatama -- Phoenix had always done perfectly fine without it in the first game, but it became a major gameplay element in the second. Given Edgeworth's "Logic" ability from ''AAI'' (and [[WMG/AceAttorney Mia's hypothetical ability]]), by comparison Phoenix doesn't have any natural ability for being a lawyer. This actually makes sense, since he [[HoYay changed career paths very suddenly, for a specific reason]].reason. (Apollo's ability was natural, but bolstered by his bracelet, so it's likely that he just found a good line of work to use his skill in.)
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* A very minor one from ''Rise of the Ashes'', again. At one point in the trial the Judge asks Edgeworth if an old case being dug up again is relevant to the case at hand, and Edgeworth replies that yes, indeed, it does hare relevance. The Judge gives in quickly, and Phoenix remarks that that was surprisingly quick. Apparently he's forgotten that the exact same thing happened not even three months ago, during ''Turnabout Goodbyes'', involving the same judge, prosecutor and even

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* A very minor one from ''Rise of the Ashes'', again. At one point in the trial the Judge asks Edgeworth if an old case being dug up again is relevant to the case at hand, and Edgeworth replies that yes, indeed, it does hare relevance. The Judge gives in quickly, and Phoenix remarks that that was surprisingly quick. Apparently he's forgotten that the exact same thing happened not even three months ago, during ''Turnabout Goodbyes'', involving the same judge, prosecutor and eveneven the same defense attorney.
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* A very minor one from ''Rise of the Ashes'', again. At one point in the trial the Judge asks Edgeworth if an old case being dug up again is relevant to the case at hand, and Edgeworth replies that yes, indeed, it does hare relevance. The Judge gives in quickly, and Phoenix remarks that that was surprisingly quick. Apparently he's forgotten that the exact same thing happened not even three months ago, during ''Turnabout Goodbyes'', involving the same judge, prosecutor and even
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This false, probably due to confusion from Atmey being considered guilty of being Demasque. Ron always has been the famous thief. The only time Atmey dressed up as Mask☆DeMasques, was when he was trying to make everyone think Demasque had stolen the Kurain Urn.


** Except it was [[spoiler: Atmey that stole the jewel, not Ron. Atmey never worked for Bullard's company.]]

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* Edgeworth getting defensive of Cody in 1-3 makes a lot more sense when you consider that [[spoiler: he probably had to testify during the original DL-6 trial, and wouldn't be much older than Cody at the time.]]
* So, we know that Edgeworth had [[spoiler: severe PTSD after DL-6]]. We know he's repressing the memory of everything that happened in the elevator, and that he doesn't fully recall it or understand it until [[spoiler: Phoenix presents enough evidence to explain what happened]]. Given that the magatama hasn't come into the games yet, but also considering the developments it receives in ''Apollo Justice'' and ''Dual Destinies'', this could mean that the last day of case 1-4 boils down to [[spoiler: breaking Edgeworth's Black Psych-Locks]].

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* Edgeworth getting defensive of Cody in 1-3 makes a lot more sense when you consider that [[spoiler: he [[spoiler:he probably had to testify during the original DL-6 trial, and wouldn't be much older than Cody at the time.]]
* So, we know that Edgeworth had [[spoiler: severe [[spoiler:severe PTSD after DL-6]]. We know he's repressing the memory of everything that happened in the elevator, and that he doesn't fully recall it or understand it until [[spoiler: Phoenix hoenix presents enough evidence to explain what happened]]. Given that the magatama hasn't come into the games yet, but also considering the developments it receives in ''Apollo Justice'' and ''Dual Destinies'', this could mean that the last day of case 1-4 boils down to [[spoiler: breaking [[spoiler:breaking Edgeworth's Black Psych-Locks]].

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** A meta explanation: [[spoiler: Case 4 is a deconstruction of the entire series and designed to shake Phoenix's core principles. If Engarde was sympathetic then it would ruin this message and mean that getting him a Not Guilty would almost seem like something that could be lived with. In order for the moral dilemma of letting Engarde go to save Maya or convict him and let Maya die to work, Engarde has to be a sociopathic monster that deserves to be found guilty.]]
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\n* In Case 3-2, [[ButThouMust while it's purely aesthetic]], Phoenix can choose whether or not to defend Ron [=DeLite=] in court, indicating he's not entirely certain of his innocence. This is a very rare, if not unique, occurrence. [[spoiler:Ron is actually guilty of being Mask [=DeMasque=], so Phoenix's gut is somewhat going against him.]]
** In fact, [[spoiler:Phoenix was doubtful at one point last game too, though rather than being given a choice, Phoenix double-checked with the magatama. Again, turns out the client he did this for, Matt Engarde, was guilty.]]

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** Actually, Phoenix said that. He yelled it at the end of Dahlia's testimony, though unless you notice the name in the dialogue box change (which you might not, since the last several were all Dahlia, and she remains onscreen), you'd easily think Dahlia said it.
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** I believe the third game implied she does suffer a lot from the deaths of her family members but puts on a brave face for the sake of Pearl.
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** There's a horrifyingly sad FanFiction out there based on the alternate story of [[spoiler:Miles being killed by von Karma instead of Gregory, and the latter's overwhelming grief]].
*** Oh god I need to know this fanfic!!!
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* So, we know that Edgeworth had [[spoiler: severe PTSD after DL-6]]. We know he's repressing the memory of everything that happened in the elevator, and that he doesn't fully recall it or understand it until [[spoiler: Phoenix presents enough evidence to explain what happened]]. Given that the magatama hasn't come into the games yet, but also considering the developments it receives in ''Apollo Justice'' and ''Dual Destinies'', this could mean that the last day of case 1-4 boils down to [[spoiler: breaking Edgeworth's Black Psych-Locks]].
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* Shelley De Killer is so prolific that he has to [[spoiler: leave his business card at his murders to save the prosecution time on investigation. Edgeworth even says that there's an entire special investigation team dedicated to finding him. Maya is rescued at the end of the case, but the game implies that de Killer wasn't caught...meaning that he's probably still, er, [[UnusualEuphemism doing buisness]]]].
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** It actually does make sense if they're looking at each other in certain cases - particularly on the last day of 2-4, where they're both trying to [[spoiler: deceive an ''assassin'' in order to make the trial last as long as possible]]. In that case, what once looked like a challenging glare turns into a conspiring look between them.
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** Alternately, there's a chance that [[spoiler:she simply ''burned'' the wig afterwards, which makes sense when you realize that Phoenix does find some scraps of evidence near the incinerator... which is conveniently near the room where Ini/Mimi was "sleeping." Also, Mimi's natural hair color is lighter than Maya's, so it's likely that she did dye it red.]]
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** [[spoiler:Edgeworth's sudden turn on Dee Vaquez]] makes more sense if you know about his fanboyism. Yes, it's later established that he'd help Phoenix save a defendant who really does seem to be innocent, but what better place to introduce that trait than [[spoiler:the end of the trial convicting the lead actor of his favorite series]]? The [[Anime/AceAttorney anime]] seems to give a nod to this one: Edgeworth is seen after the trial watching ''The Pink Princess'' in his office, sipping tea and seeming entirely at peace with himself.

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** [[spoiler:Edgeworth's sudden turn on Dee Vaquez]] makes more sense if you know about his fanboyism. Yes, it's later established that he'd help Phoenix save a defendant who really does seem to be innocent, but what better place to introduce that trait than [[spoiler:the end of the trial convicting the lead actor of his favorite series]]? The [[Anime/AceAttorney anime]] seems to give gives a nod to this one: Edgeworth is seen starts helping the defense after Cody interrupts the trial to yell about how the Steel Samurai fights evil for great justice, and afterward Edgeworth is one of the many characters watching ''The Pink Princess'' in his office, Princess'', sipping tea in his office and seeming entirely at peace with himself.
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** [[spoiler:Edgeworth's sudden turn on Dee Vaquez]] makes more sense if you know about his fanboyism. Yes, it's later established that he'd help Phoenix save a defendant who really does seem to be innocent, but what better place to introduce that trait than [[spoiler:the end of the trial convicting the lead actor of his favorite series]]?

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** [[spoiler:Edgeworth's sudden turn on Dee Vaquez]] makes more sense if you know about his fanboyism. Yes, it's later established that he'd help Phoenix save a defendant who really does seem to be innocent, but what better place to introduce that trait than [[spoiler:the end of the trial convicting the lead actor of his favorite series]]?series]]? The [[Anime/AceAttorney anime]] seems to give a nod to this one: Edgeworth is seen after the trial watching ''The Pink Princess'' in his office, sipping tea and seeming entirely at peace with himself.



** This is supported by the fact that at one point, before the reveal, he [[spoiler: grabs his shoulder when he briefly loses his composure and complains at the judge. It probably does hurt him.]]

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** This is supported by the fact that at one point, before the reveal, he [[spoiler: grabs his shoulder when he briefly loses his composure and complains at the judge. It probably does hurt him.still hurt.]]



** There's a horrifyingly sad FanFiction out there based on the alternate story of [[spoiler:Miles being killed be von Karma instead of Gregory, and the latter's overwhelming grief]].

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** There's a horrifyingly sad FanFiction out there based on the alternate story of [[spoiler:Miles being killed be by von Karma instead of Gregory, and the latter's overwhelming grief]].



** Another parallel between 2-4 and 1-3 is the polar oppositeness of [[spoiler:Matt Engarde]] and Will Powers. The former is a BitchInSheepsClothing, while the latter is a NiceGuy with the FaceOfAThug.

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** Another parallel between 2-4 and 1-3 is the polar oppositeness opposition of [[spoiler:Matt Engarde]] and Will Powers. The former is a BitchInSheepsClothing, while the latter is a NiceGuy with the FaceOfAThug.



* Case 3: Turnabout Big Top. It doesn't seem exactly plot relevant... until you realize that it fits in with the all of the other cases ''thematically''. While it may have little impact on the plot, all the characters in this "trial of errors" come across as completely sympathetic (maybe not ''likeable'', but certainly sympathetic). [[spoiler:''Especially'' the murderer]]. Quietly asking what justice is, this case is the ''perfect'' set-up to Case 2-4, where the concept of justice is fully explored.

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* Case 3: Turnabout Big Top. It doesn't seem exactly plot relevant... until you realize that it fits in with the all of the other cases ''thematically''. While it may have little impact on the plot, all the characters in this "trial of errors" come across as completely sympathetic (maybe not ''likeable'', ''likable'', but certainly sympathetic). [[spoiler:''Especially'' the murderer]]. Quietly asking what justice is, this case is the ''perfect'' set-up to Case 2-4, where the concept of justice is fully explored.

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* In case 2-2, Director Hotti (or rather the patient pretending to be him) says to Phoenix, in regards to Ini Miney, "That girl left here a long time ago." He means that in the sense of her being discharged from the hospital, but it's also {{foreshadowing}} that [[spoiler:Ini is actually dead, and "left [this world] a long time ago"]].
* "Eenie Meenie Miney Moe" is a children's rhyme, where you switch back and forth between things you're deciding between with each word you say. [[spoiler:Mimi Miney switched from her life to Ini's.]]
** Also, there's Ini and Mimi Miney, but no Moe... except [[spoiler:"Mo" is a shortened, albeit informal, way of saying "Morgan", who was Mimi's accomplice]].
** By committing murder, [[spoiler:Mimi proved she really is a ''meanie'']].
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** It also turns out to mark him as being his father's son, since Gregory's sprites in ''Investigations 2'' have it as well.

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