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*How does Kefka absorb the power of the Warring Triad, he's a mortal and they're ''gods''. Well, consider what we know of Espers -- Odin was petrified and dissolved into Magicite at a touch, Locke says legends tell of Phoenix turning to stone, and in general of course, Magicite is an Esper's crystallized stone remains. Kefka absorbs the power of the Triad the same way the party absorbs power from their Magicite shards. And to take it a step further, Gestahl simply commands the Triad's power to stun the party, Kefka, having been at the Magitek Research Facility and learned about Magicite directly, takes their power for himself. Gestahl warns Kefka about awakening the Triad, which could be compared to the party's summoning of Espers from their Magicite shards.
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* One of the pieces of Magicite Terra can equip, learn spells from and summon is her father's. And magicite are the remains of a dead Esper. ''Terra can equip her father's corpse.''

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* One of the pieces of Magicite Terra can equip, learn spells from and summon is her father's. And magicite Magicite are the remains of a dead Esper. ''Terra can equip her father's corpse.''



* This troper never understood the point of Gogo in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI''. Of course, he was an very useful character and was this troper's trump-card of choice, but the character always seemed bland. Heck, UMARO had more backstory and foreshadowing then Gogo. Years later, this troper plays through the GBA remake of VideoGame/FinalFantasyV and realizes that Gogo is not only a funny cameo of a [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere boss]] in VideoGame/FinalFantasyV, but his entire skill-set changing gimmick is a throw-back to how Mimics worked in V, just like Gogo, they could change their entire skill-set, even throwing out the Item command. Suddenly, the most personality-lacking character became a hilareous cameo. It only got better when the remake of VI came along and revealed that Gogo was mimicking the main characters all along; they were saving the world, so he would save the world too. All in the name of the "true path of mimicry". Hilarious - @/{{Enlong}}

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* This troper never understood What's the point of Gogo in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI''. Of course, he was an very useful character and was this troper's trump-card of choice, but the character always seemed bland. Heck, UMARO had more backstory and foreshadowing then Gogo. Years later, this troper plays through the GBA remake of VideoGame/FinalFantasyV and realizes that Gogo is He's not only a funny cameo of a [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere boss]] in VideoGame/FinalFantasyV, but his entire skill-set changing gimmick is a throw-back to how Mimics worked in V, just like Gogo, they could change their entire skill-set, even throwing out the Item command. Suddenly, the most personality-lacking character became a hilareous cameo. It only got better when the remake of VI came along and revealed that Gogo was mimicking the main characters all along; they were saving the world, so he would save the world too. All in the name of the "true path of mimicry". Hilarious - @/{{Enlong}}



* Did Kefka really want to destroy the world merely ForTheEvulz? Looking at his HannibalLecture before the final battle from a certain perspective, it seems his main issue was that everything that is created will eventually be destroyed, and is therefore meaningless. That would mean he saw destruction as the only permanent, all-encompassing force in the universe and, following his logic, the only thing that had any meaning. His words about creating a monument to non-existence seem to confirm that.

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* Did Kefka really want to destroy the world merely ForTheEvulz? Looking at his HannibalLecture MotiveRant before the final battle from a certain perspective, it seems his main issue was that everything that is created will eventually be destroyed, and is therefore meaningless. That would mean he saw destruction as the only permanent, all-encompassing force in the universe and, following his logic, the only thing that had any meaning. His words about creating a monument to non-existence seem to confirm that.



* This troper just realized that the three characters you take with you for the full "Gau meeting his father scene" are three characters who you select from during the escape to Narshe at the beginning of the game: Locke, Edgar, and Sabin.

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* FridgeHorror: One of the pieces of Magicite Terra can equip, learn spells from and summon is her father's. And magicite are the remains of a dead Esper. ''Terra can equip her father's corpse.''
** The empire spent a lot of time trying to harness magical power for humans. Eventually, it's revealed that they did this by experimenting on captured Espers -- but Espers only pass along their magic when they die and turn into Magicite. The Empire ''did not know this'' until the events of the game. The last raid on their home was performed when Terra was just a baby. That means that for almost twenty years, those Espers were imprisoned and experimented upon, knowing that any time one of them died they were just one test away from ensuring a death sentence for all of the rest of them...
*** Puts an entirely different spin on when you get all their Magicite in the facility. It's not that they killed themselves to give you their power, it's that after twenty years of hanging on so as to not let the Empire understand the true nature of their power, they finally just...let go.
* FridgeLogic: How can you equip Sprint Shoes and Marvel Shoes at the same time?

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* FridgeHorror: One of the pieces of Magicite Terra can equip, learn spells from and summon is her father's. And magicite are the remains of a dead Esper. ''Terra can equip her father's corpse.''
** * The empire spent a lot of time trying to harness magical power for humans. Eventually, it's revealed that they did this by experimenting on captured Espers -- but Espers only pass along their magic when they die and turn into Magicite. The Empire ''did not know this'' until the events of the game. The last raid on their home was performed when Terra was just a baby. That means that for almost twenty years, those Espers were imprisoned and experimented upon, knowing that any time one of them died they were just one test away from ensuring a death sentence for all of the rest of them...
*** ** Puts an entirely different spin on when you get all their Magicite in the facility. It's not that they killed themselves to give you their power, it's that after twenty years of hanging on so as to not let the Empire understand the true nature of their power, they finally just...let go.
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* FridgeLogic: How can you equip Sprint Shoes and Marvel Shoes at the same time?



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***Assuming Cid actually does die. It's been a long time since I played, but she seems a lot better if you manage to keep Cid alive.
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* A bit of FridgeHorror that takes a while to click. Gau's father abandons him on the Veldt. He puts a new born baby in the place where every monster in the world migrates. Yes Gau's father was insane but that still doesn't make the action itself any less heinous.
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** That just adds a whole other level to the fact that you can snap Strago out of it without retrieving the Soul of Thamasa. Or you can retrieve the Soul of Thamasa without ever getting Strago himself back.
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*** Better than that, he kept her the entire game up to that point, and even before stuck in that not-dead-but-not-alive limbo. He was LITERALLY unable to let her go until she absolved him.
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*** Puts an entirely different spin on when you get all their Magicite in the facility. It's not that they killed themselves to give you their power, it's that after twenty years of hanging on so as to not let the Empire understand the true nature of their power, they finally just...let go.
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** First put on the Marvel Shoes, and since you can buy Sprint Shoes in relic shops, just get a really big pair and put those on over the Marvel Shoes! Problem solved! :D
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**** Some men just want to watch the world burn. -corneliustacitus

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* Intention or not, the game makes great use of existentialist themes. Each character goes through an existentialist crisis and will only rejoin you or gain new strength once they have been resolved:

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* Intention Intentional or not, the game makes great use of existentialist themes. Each character goes through an existentialist crisis and will only rejoin you or gain new strength once they have been resolved:




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** Edgar feels insecure over having to take over his father's role after his untimely death. When he hears that Figaro castle is stuck underground, he knew that his people's well being is more valuable than the treasures he allowed to get stolen.
** Gau and Gogo? The lulz.
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* Intention or not, the game makes great use of existentialist themes. Each character goes through an existentialist crisis and will only rejoin you or gain new strength once they have been resolved:
** Celes losing Cid made her fear that she will be alone forever until she learned that her friends are still alive.
** Terra was initially afraid that someone unnatural like her would be unable to feel love. This changes when her love for the orphans in Mobliz is what's needed to protect them.
** Locke feels guilt over causing the death of Rachel. After he revived her only to watch her die again, he can finally move on after hearing her tell him that it's not his fault.
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* FridgeHorror: One of the pieces of Magicite Terra can equip, learn spells from and summon is her father's. And magicite are the remains of a dead Esper. ''Terra can equip her father's corpse.''
** The empire spent a lot of time trying to harness magical power for humans. Eventually, it's revealed that they did this by experimenting on captured Espers -- but Espers only pass along their magic when they die and turn into Magicite. The Empire ''did not know this'' until the events of the game. The last raid on their home was performed when Terra was just a baby. That means that for almost twenty years, those Espers were imprisoned and experimented upon, knowing that any time one of them died they were just one test away from ensuring a death sentence for all of the rest of them...
* FridgeLogic: How can you equip Sprint Shoes and Marvel Shoes at the same time?
** One on each foot?
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*** Hell, I'm inclined to believe she was groomed to be a failsafe against Kefka and/or Terra. Think about it, two characters who know powerful magic...if they turned on the Emperor, he's not in good shape. Having someone to protect him from that magic, though...
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* Profound epiphany: [[ICallHimMisterHappy Humpty and Dumpty]] are actually the ones in the back, not the front.
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* This troper just realized that the three characters you take with you for the full "Gau meeting his father scene" are three characters who you select from during the escape to Narshe at the beginning of the game: Locke, Edgar, and Sabin.
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* Profound epiphany: [[ICallHimMisterHappy Humpty and Dumpty]] are actually the ones in the back, not the front.
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* Most of the entries on this page are FridgeBrilliance, so here's some FridgeHorror to go with that: In the second half of the game, Strago is found at [[spoiler: the Cult of Kefka, worshiping Kefka. An NPC at the base of the tower informs you that all the worshipers have sold their souls to Kefka. In the GBA version, the relic found at the top of the tower is the Soul of Thamasa. Thamasa is Strago's hometown. He sold his soul to Kefka, and that's why you have to climb the tower-to get it back!]]
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* This troper never understood the point of Gogo in ''FinalFantasyVI''. Of course, he was an very useful character and was this troper's trump-card of choice, but the character always seemed bland. Heck, UMARO had more backstory and foreshadowing then Gogo. Years later, this troper plays through the GBA remake of FinalFantasyV and realizes that Gogo is not only a funny cameo of a [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere boss]] in FinalFantasyV, but his entire skill-set changing gimmick is a throw-back to how Mimics worked in V, just like Gogo, they could change their entire skill-set, even throwing out the Item command. Suddenly, the most personality-lacking character became a hilareous cameo. It only got better when the remake of VI came along and revealed that Gogo was mimicking the main characters all along; they were saving the world, so he would save the world too. All in the name of the "true path of mimicry". Hilarious - @/{{Enlong}}

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* This troper never understood the point of Gogo in ''FinalFantasyVI''.''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI''. Of course, he was an very useful character and was this troper's trump-card of choice, but the character always seemed bland. Heck, UMARO had more backstory and foreshadowing then Gogo. Years later, this troper plays through the GBA remake of FinalFantasyV VideoGame/FinalFantasyV and realizes that Gogo is not only a funny cameo of a [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere boss]] in FinalFantasyV, VideoGame/FinalFantasyV, but his entire skill-set changing gimmick is a throw-back to how Mimics worked in V, just like Gogo, they could change their entire skill-set, even throwing out the Item command. Suddenly, the most personality-lacking character became a hilareous cameo. It only got better when the remake of VI came along and revealed that Gogo was mimicking the main characters all along; they were saving the world, so he would save the world too. All in the name of the "true path of mimicry". Hilarious - @/{{Enlong}}



* In ''FinalFantasyVI'', when you find Mog in the World of Ruin, he's just staring at a spot in the wall of the (now empty) moogle's den. If you search that spot, you find the Moogle's charm... in the SNES version. In the retranslated GBA version, the name given is "Molulu's Charm". Molulu was one of the Ten Moogles who fight to protect Terra way back in the Mines fight. Specifically, Molulu fought right next to Mog during the battle. And [[AllThereInTheManual supplementary materials]] reveal that Molulu was Mog's ''girlfriend'', and gave him the charm as a present. Mog is very likely the only Moogle spared from the apocalypse. He probably spent the entire year just [[HeroicBSOD forlornly staring at that charm]], because it's all that's left of Molulu, of his entire people. And... when Kefka asks the party what they could possibly have that gives them the strength to keep living... Mog's only answer is "New pals, Kupo!". Because all his old friends are... [[TearJerker Oh Mog!]] * sob* -- @/{{Enlong}}
* Two things about ''FinalFantasyVI'' just occurred to me today. The first comes during the section where you, as Celes, have to give fish to Cid while he is sick. For some reason, whenever you walk in, he's out of bed, and just walking back into bed as Celes approaches. Only now does it occur to me that while Celes was out, he was down in the basement working on the raft for her to use to find dry land! That's why you can't find the raft before he gets better/dies, he hasn't built it yet!

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* In ''FinalFantasyVI'', ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'', when you find Mog in the World of Ruin, he's just staring at a spot in the wall of the (now empty) moogle's den. If you search that spot, you find the Moogle's charm... in the SNES version. In the retranslated GBA version, the name given is "Molulu's Charm". Molulu was one of the Ten Moogles who fight to protect Terra way back in the Mines fight. Specifically, Molulu fought right next to Mog during the battle. And [[AllThereInTheManual supplementary materials]] reveal that Molulu was Mog's ''girlfriend'', and gave him the charm as a present. Mog is very likely the only Moogle spared from the apocalypse. He probably spent the entire year just [[HeroicBSOD forlornly staring at that charm]], because it's all that's left of Molulu, of his entire people. And... when Kefka asks the party what they could possibly have that gives them the strength to keep living... Mog's only answer is "New pals, Kupo!". Because all his old friends are... [[TearJerker Oh Mog!]] * sob* -- @/{{Enlong}}
* Two things about ''FinalFantasyVI'' ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'' just occurred to me today. The first comes during the section where you, as Celes, have to give fish to Cid while he is sick. For some reason, whenever you walk in, he's out of bed, and just walking back into bed as Celes approaches. Only now does it occur to me that while Celes was out, he was down in the basement working on the raft for her to use to find dry land! That's why you can't find the raft before he gets better/dies, he hasn't built it yet!



* OK, so, in ''FinalFantasyVI'', Espers have to die in order to produce Magicite. You fid the Bahamut magicite in the mouth of the Deathgaze enemy. So, Deathgaze must've killed Bahamut. How? Well, Deathgaze's attack pattern is to open every encounter with Level 5 Death, killing everything whose level is a multiple of five. Looking through the Final Fantasy Wiki, I found that in ''FinalFantasyIII'', Bahamut's first appearance in the series as a boss (rather than an NPC), his level is precisely 50. That's a multiple of 5! Probably a huge coincidence, but I'm calling it brilliance. @/{{Enlong}}
** On a similar note, you find the esper Odin petrified. In ''FinalFantasyV'', you have to fight him and and win in under one minute to gain his summon magic. On both rereleases, he is not immune to being petrified.

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* OK, so, in ''FinalFantasyVI'', ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVI'', Espers have to die in order to produce Magicite. You fid the Bahamut magicite in the mouth of the Deathgaze enemy. So, Deathgaze must've killed Bahamut. How? Well, Deathgaze's attack pattern is to open every encounter with Level 5 Death, killing everything whose level is a multiple of five. Looking through the Final Fantasy Wiki, I found that in ''FinalFantasyIII'', ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIII'', Bahamut's first appearance in the series as a boss (rather than an NPC), his level is precisely 50. That's a multiple of 5! Probably a huge coincidence, but I'm calling it brilliance. @/{{Enlong}}
** On a similar note, you find the esper Odin petrified. In ''FinalFantasyV'', ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'', you have to fight him and and win in under one minute to gain his summon magic. On both rereleases, he is not immune to being petrified.
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* Did Kefka really want to destroy the world merely ForTheEvulz? Looking at his HannibalLecture before the final battle from a certain perspective, it seems his main issue was that everything that is created will eventually be destroyed, and is therefore meaningless. That would mean he saw destruction as the only permanent, all-encompassing force in the universe and, following his logic, the only thing that had any meaning. His words about creating a monument to non-existence seem to confirm that.
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* This troper never understood the point of Gogo in ''FinalFantasyVI''. Of course, he was an very useful character and was this troper's trump-card of choice, but the character always seemed bland. Heck, UMARO had more backstory and foreshadowing then Gogo. Years later, this troper plays through the GBA remake of FinalFantasyV and realizes that Gogo is not only a funny cameo of a [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere boss]] in FinalFantasyV, but his entire skill-set changing gimmick is a throw-back to how Mimics worked in V, just like Gogo, they could change their entire skill-set, even throwing out the Item command. Suddenly, the most personality-lacking character became a hilareous cameo. It only got better when the remake of VI came along and revealed that Gogo was mimicking the main characters all along; they were saving the world, so he would save the world too. All in the name of the "true path of mimicry". Hilarious -{{Enlong}}

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* This troper never understood the point of Gogo in ''FinalFantasyVI''. Of course, he was an very useful character and was this troper's trump-card of choice, but the character always seemed bland. Heck, UMARO had more backstory and foreshadowing then Gogo. Years later, this troper plays through the GBA remake of FinalFantasyV and realizes that Gogo is not only a funny cameo of a [[GiantSpaceFleaFromNowhere boss]] in FinalFantasyV, but his entire skill-set changing gimmick is a throw-back to how Mimics worked in V, just like Gogo, they could change their entire skill-set, even throwing out the Item command. Suddenly, the most personality-lacking character became a hilareous cameo. It only got better when the remake of VI came along and revealed that Gogo was mimicking the main characters all along; they were saving the world, so he would save the world too. All in the name of the "true path of mimicry". Hilarious -{{Enlong}}- @/{{Enlong}}



* In ''FinalFantasyVI'', when you find Mog in the World of Ruin, he's just staring at a spot in the wall of the (now empty) moogle's den. If you search that spot, you find the Moogle's charm... in the SNES version. In the retranslated GBA version, the name given is "Molulu's Charm". Molulu was one of the Ten Moogles who fight to protect Terra way back in the Mines fight. Specifically, Molulu fought right next to Mog during the battle. And [[AllThereInTheManual supplementary materials]] reveal that Molulu was Mog's ''girlfriend'', and gave him the charm as a present. Mog is very likely the only Moogle spared from the apocalypse. He probably spent the entire year just [[HeroicBSOD forlornly staring at that charm]], because it's all that's left of Molulu, of his entire people. And... when Kefka asks the party what they could possibly have that gives them the strength to keep living... Mog's only answer is "New pals, Kupo!". Because all his old friends are... [[TearJerker Oh Mog!]] * sob* -- {{Enlong}}

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* In ''FinalFantasyVI'', when you find Mog in the World of Ruin, he's just staring at a spot in the wall of the (now empty) moogle's den. If you search that spot, you find the Moogle's charm... in the SNES version. In the retranslated GBA version, the name given is "Molulu's Charm". Molulu was one of the Ten Moogles who fight to protect Terra way back in the Mines fight. Specifically, Molulu fought right next to Mog during the battle. And [[AllThereInTheManual supplementary materials]] reveal that Molulu was Mog's ''girlfriend'', and gave him the charm as a present. Mog is very likely the only Moogle spared from the apocalypse. He probably spent the entire year just [[HeroicBSOD forlornly staring at that charm]], because it's all that's left of Molulu, of his entire people. And... when Kefka asks the party what they could possibly have that gives them the strength to keep living... Mog's only answer is "New pals, Kupo!". Because all his old friends are... [[TearJerker Oh Mog!]] * sob* -- {{Enlong}}@/{{Enlong}}



* OK, so, in ''FinalFantasyVI'', Espers have to die in order to produce Magicite. You fid the Bahamut magicite in the mouth of the Deathgaze enemy. So, Deathgaze must've killed Bahamut. How? Well, Deathgaze's attack pattern is to open every encounter with Level 5 Death, killing everything whose level is a multiple of five. Looking through the Final Fantasy Wiki, I found that in ''FinalFantasyIII'', Bahamut's first appearance in the series as a boss (rather than an NPC), his level is precisely 50. That's a multiple of 5! Probably a huge coincidence, but I'm calling it brilliance. {{Enlong}}

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* OK, so, in ''FinalFantasyVI'', Espers have to die in order to produce Magicite. You fid the Bahamut magicite in the mouth of the Deathgaze enemy. So, Deathgaze must've killed Bahamut. How? Well, Deathgaze's attack pattern is to open every encounter with Level 5 Death, killing everything whose level is a multiple of five. Looking through the Final Fantasy Wiki, I found that in ''FinalFantasyIII'', Bahamut's first appearance in the series as a boss (rather than an NPC), his level is precisely 50. That's a multiple of 5! Probably a huge coincidence, but I'm calling it brilliance. {{Enlong}}@/{{Enlong}}
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**** I always assumed the crown was because Terra refused to use her powers to kill people.
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*Setzer's scars seem random at first until you consider that he's a--a gambler and general high-risk guy, and b--an airship pilot. Between bar fights and crashes, it's no wonder! Although that one straight down the eye seems nasty.
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** And after [[spoiler: You take Gau to see him, he says everything's fixed. You did good.]] Or AlternateCharacterInterpretation - He was always crazy, therefore never mentally fit to be a father to begin with.

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** And after [[spoiler: You take Gau to see him, he the father says everything's fixed. You did good.]] Or AlternateCharacterInterpretation - He was always crazy, therefore never mentally fit to be a father to begin with.
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** And after [[spoiler: You take Gau to see him, he says everything's fixed. You did good.]] Or AlternateCharacterInterpretation - He was always crazy, therefore never mentally fit to be a father to begin with.
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**** There's a lot about Terra's backstory that isn't really fleshed out. She looks identical to her adult self in the scene where the slave crown is put on, and Kefka's dialogue in that scene implies that the slave crown is a new development. How did they keep control of her for all the years in between her infancy and the day they put on the slave crown?
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*Something struck me as odd about Celes, her "Runic" ability is useless in-universe; humanity lost the ability to do magic after the war of the magi and now only specifically altered imperial soldiers can use magic. What is the point of a power that only weakens your allies? Then it hit me; why would a woman with [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation obvious mental issues]] be made a general? She was a throwaway asset groomed for EXACTLY ONE BATTLE. If she hadn't turned traitor she would doubtlessly have lead imperial forces [[spoiler:into the Esper world.]] Think about it: what is more frightening to an Esper; fighting enemies who, while using weapons you've never seen, are perfectly vulnerable to magic, or an enemy commander who can nullify your magic with a snap of her fingers? Really makes you realize how evil the empire is if they would control a person for her entire life to gain an advantage in one battle
**Furthermore; she may have also been intended as a means of drawing enemy fire away form Kefka [[spoiler:and the Emperor.]]
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*** I once read somewhere that WordOfGod claimed that Kefka was raised an orphan in Thamasa and routinely physically abused, causing him to develop a snide passive-aggressive personality. After the Magitek Infusion shattered his mind, his mental and emotional scars came to the forefront and left him cruel and insane. --{{Anomaly188}}
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** On a similar note, you find the esper Odin petrified. In ''FinalFantasyV'', you have to fight him and and win in under one minute to gain his summon magic. On both rereleases, he is not immune to being petrified.

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