History Fridge / DoctorWhoS33E13TheNameOfTheDoctor

23rd Dec '15 6:32:09 AM Maitena
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* Artron Energy is absorbed by all those who travel through the Time Vortex and has been mentioned as causing some physiological changes. The Doctor mentions he's probably experienced the most time travel of anyone in all of history (which coming from a man who's race made time travel their hat, says something), meaning that because of his long-term exposure, his readings must be off the charts! [[spoiler: Taking all of this into account, no wonder his "body" is a NegativeSpaceWedgie!]].
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* Artron Energy is absorbed by all those who travel through the Time Vortex and has been mentioned as causing some physiological changes. The Doctor mentions he's probably experienced the most time travel of anyone in all of history (which coming from a man who's whose race made time travel their hat, says something), meaning that because of his long-term exposure, his readings must be off the charts! [[spoiler: Taking all of this into account, no wonder his "body" is a NegativeSpaceWedgie!]].
20th Jul '15 6:41:48 AM ChaoticNovelist
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natter. Saying "more likely" is just rude
* [[spoiler:Clara traversed the Doctor's entire timeline, but never once saw John Hurt!Doctor.]] While this is initially excused as him [[spoiler:not being a "Doctor"]], it makes sense in light of the Great Intelligence's plan. [[spoiler:He sought to undo all the good the Doctor did, and this Doc did something so evil he lost the name. Naturally, neither Clara or the Great Intelligence are going to wind up focusing on an act of indescribable evil.]] ** More likely, it was because that incarnation of the Doctor was the one involved in the Time War, which is time-locked. Thus Clara didn't have access to this part of the timeline. ** The Great Intelligence may not have had the nerve to try to tackle the Doctor ''on Gallifrey'', which presumably had defenses against tampering with its history even ''before'' the Time Lords went to war against another time-traveling species.
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* [[spoiler:Clara traversed the Doctor's entire timeline, but never once saw John Hurt!Doctor.]] While this is initially excused as him [[spoiler:not being a "Doctor"]], it makes sense in light of the Great Intelligence's plan. [[spoiler:He sought to undo all the good the Doctor did, and this Doc did something so evil he lost the name. Naturally, neither Clara or the Great Intelligence are going to wind up focusing on an act of indescribable evil.]] ** More likely, it was because ]] It's also possible that incarnation of the Doctor was the one involved in the Time War, which is time-locked. Thus Clara didn't have access to this part of the timeline. ** The Great Intelligence may not have had the nerve to try to tackle the Doctor ''on Gallifrey'', which presumably had defenses against tampering with its history even ''before'' the Time Lords went to war against another time-traveling species.

* Why was Oswin able to overcome Dalek programming? [[spoiler: Her need to save the Doctor was so great!]]
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* Why was Oswin able to overcome Dalek programming? [[spoiler: Her need to save the Doctor was so that great!]]
24th Aug '14 10:45:49 AM SharleeD
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** The Great Intelligence may not have had the nerve to try to tackle the Doctor ''on Gallifrey'', which presumably had defenses against tampering with its history even ''before'' the Time Lords went to war against another time-traveling species.
27th Jun '14 9:02:22 AM firejewel
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** The First Doctor would have been murdered while inside the tomb of Yetaxa [[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E6TheAztecs "The Aztecs"]]. Ending his heroic actions long before he could even preform them. ** The Third Doctor would have been caught and killed by The Great Intelligence while out driving Bessie [[Recap/DoctorWho20thASTheFiveDoctors "The Five Doctors"]]. ** The Fourth Doctor would have been assassinated on Gallifrey [[Recap/DoctorWhoS15E6TheInvasionOfTime "The Invasion of Time"]]. Thus allowing the planet to fall even before the Great Time War. ** The Fifth Doctor would have most likely remained trapped [[Recap/DoctorWhoS20E1ArcOfInfinity "Arc of Infinity"]]. Leaving no one to stop Omega. ** The Seventh Doctor would have most likely fallen to his death [[Recap/DoctorWhoS24E4Dragonfire "Dragonfire"]].
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** The First Doctor would have been murdered while inside the tomb of Yetaxa in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E6TheAztecs "The Aztecs"]]. Ending his heroic actions long before he could even preform them. ** The Third Doctor would have been caught and killed by The Great Intelligence while out driving Bessie in [[Recap/DoctorWho20thASTheFiveDoctors "The Five Doctors"]]. ** The Fourth Doctor would have been assassinated on Gallifrey in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS15E6TheInvasionOfTime "The Invasion of Time"]]. Thus allowing the planet to fall even before the Great Time War. ** The Fifth Doctor would have most likely remained trapped in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS20E1ArcOfInfinity "Arc of Infinity"]]. Leaving no one to stop Omega. ** The Seventh Doctor would have most likely fallen to his death in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS24E4Dragonfire "Dragonfire"]].
27th Jun '14 9:00:58 AM firejewel
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* During "The Pandorica Opens", The Doctor is described as being "soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies." While any incarnation of The Doctor may have blood on his hands, no one would go so far as to say any incarnation we'd seen previously, or their sum total, would equal a billion galaxies. What if that's not hyperbole, but the actions of this disowned Doctor?
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* During "The Pandorica Opens", The Doctor is described as being "soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies." While any incarnation of The Doctor may have blood on his hands, no one would go so far as to say any incarnation we'd seen previously, or their sum total, would equal a billion galaxies. What if that's not hyperbole, but the actions of this disowned Doctor?Doctor? * Hell the very nature of the Great Intelligence's plan! Anyone who's watched the entire original series run alone should know, undoing all the Doctor's good works throughout time would, as Vastra put it "have dire consequences". ** Just to name a few: ** The First Doctor would have been murdered while inside the tomb of Yetaxa [[Recap/DoctorWhoS1E6TheAztecs "The Aztecs"]]. Ending his heroic actions long before he could even preform them. ** The Third Doctor would have been caught and killed by The Great Intelligence while out driving Bessie [[Recap/DoctorWho20thASTheFiveDoctors "The Five Doctors"]]. ** The Fourth Doctor would have been assassinated on Gallifrey [[Recap/DoctorWhoS15E6TheInvasionOfTime "The Invasion of Time"]]. Thus allowing the planet to fall even before the Great Time War. ** The Fifth Doctor would have most likely remained trapped [[Recap/DoctorWhoS20E1ArcOfInfinity "Arc of Infinity"]]. Leaving no one to stop Omega. ** The Seventh Doctor would have most likely fallen to his death [[Recap/DoctorWhoS24E4Dragonfire "Dragonfire"]].
25th Jun '14 6:29:13 AM TheWildWestPyro
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'''WARNING! THERE MAY BE UNMARKED SPOILERS!'''
2nd Jun '14 8:20:08 AM StFan
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* Much of the Eleventh Doctor's run makes more sense, now. Going back to [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E02TheBeastBelow The Beast Below]], the Doctor saying that if he killed the Star Whale, he'd no longer deserve to hold the name. Just an episode ago, [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver in Nightmare in Silver]], the Doctor warns Mr. Clever he could regenerate right now, but doesn't want to, claiming "Who knows what we might get?". [[Recap/DoctorWhoS23E4TheUltimateFoe But he knows exactly what comes between his]] [[ExactWords twelfth and final regenerations]]. The Tenth Doctor's fears regarding his regeneration(s) could also fall under this heading.
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* Much of the Eleventh Doctor's run makes more sense, now. Going back to [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E02TheBeastBelow [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E2TheBeastBelow The Beast Below]], the Doctor saying that if he killed the Star Whale, he'd no longer deserve to hold the name. Just an episode ago, [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver in Nightmare in Silver]], the Doctor warns Mr. Clever he could regenerate right now, but doesn't want to, claiming "Who knows what we might get?". [[Recap/DoctorWhoS23E4TheUltimateFoe But he knows exactly what comes between his]] [[ExactWords twelfth and final regenerations]]. The Tenth Doctor's fears regarding his regeneration(s) could also fall under this heading.

* The Doctor's threat to the Vashta Nerada in [[Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E9ForestOfTheDead Forest of the Dead]] is even more prominent if the Library has knowledge of the actions of [[spoiler: Creator/JohnHurt!Doctor]]. If River Song has access to the same Library, of course she would have knowledge of The Doctor's ''entire life'', hence her behavior in this episode.
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* The Doctor's threat to the Vashta Nerada in [[Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E9ForestOfTheDead Forest [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E9ForestOfTheDead "Forest of the Dead]] Dead"]] is even more prominent if the Library has knowledge of the actions of [[spoiler: Creator/JohnHurt!Doctor]].[[spoiler:Creator/JohnHurt!Doctor]]. If River Song has access to the same Library, of course she would have knowledge of The Doctor's ''entire life'', hence her behavior in this episode.

-->'''Reinette:''' Doctor who? It's more than just a secret, isn't it?\\
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-->'''Reinette:''' Doctor who? It's more than just a secret, isn't it?\\it?\\\

* In this episode, it's revealed that River's sacrifice has already happened. We don't know when exactly. But remember how depressed the Doctor was in the Snowmen episode, after losing the Ponds? Maybe it was more than that. Maybe he's also mourning River Song in addition.
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* In this episode, it's revealed that River's sacrifice has already happened. We don't know when exactly. But remember how depressed the Doctor was in the Snowmen "The Snowmen" episode, after losing the Ponds? Maybe it was more than that. Maybe he's also mourning River Song in addition.

* Since this episode makes a point of what the Doctor calling himself that means - the name Doctor being a promise - the Doctor's growth and development over the course of the series could be equated to him finding out the answer of the "first question" for himself: Doctor ''Who''? What does the name of "the Doctor" really MEAN?
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** More likely, it was because that incarnation of the Doctor was the one involved in the Time War, which is time-locked. Thus Clara didn't have access to this part of the timeline. * Since this episode makes a point of what the Doctor calling himself that means - -- the name Doctor being a promise - -- the Doctor's growth and development over the course of the series could be equated to him finding out the answer of the "first question" for himself: Doctor ''Who''? What does the name of "the Doctor" really MEAN?

* Just before the Master regenerates at the end of [[Recap/DoctorWhoNSS3E11Utopia Utopia]], he foreshadows the revelation of this episode's end when he says: "Still, if The Doctor can be young and strong, then so can I.", thus implying the existence of [[spoiler: Creator/JohnHurt's older incarnation of the Doctor]].
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* Just before the Master regenerates at the end of [[Recap/DoctorWhoNSS3E11Utopia Utopia]], [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E11Utopia "Utopia"]], he foreshadows the revelation of this episode's end when he says: "Still, if The Doctor can be young and strong, then so can I.", thus implying the existence of [[spoiler: Creator/JohnHurt's older incarnation of the Doctor]].
1st May '14 2:38:51 PM firejewel
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** Option 2: MagnificentBastards!: They wanted all of Option 1 to run ''exactly'' like that. Perhaps it was all a sophisticated game of reverse psychology, and the Silence actually ''wanted'' the Doctor to get to Trenzalore and things turn out exactly as they did. Why else would the Silence and the Academy seem to be completely MIA after ''The Wedding of River Song'', essentially throwing up their hands in surrender? Why else would there apparently be no "plan B" when the "kill the Doctor with the amazingly convoluted plan that seemed tailor made to present him with an irresistable puzzle" plot went seemingly off the rails?
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** Option 2: MagnificentBastards!: [[MagnificentBastard Magnificent Bastards!]]: They wanted all of Option 1 to run ''exactly'' like that. Perhaps it was all a sophisticated game of reverse psychology, and the Silence actually ''wanted'' the Doctor to get to Trenzalore and things turn out exactly as they did. Why else would the Silence and the Academy seem to be completely MIA after ''The Wedding of River Song'', essentially throwing up their hands in surrender? Why else would there apparently be no "plan B" when the "kill the Doctor with the amazingly convoluted plan that seemed tailor made to present him with an irresistable puzzle" plot went seemingly off the rails?
12th Mar '14 9:43:56 AM 23skidoo
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Removed reference to Room 11 as later episode revealed it was something else
* Much of the Eleventh Doctor's run makes more sense, now. Going back to [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E02TheBeastBelow The Beast Below]], the Doctor saying that if he killed the Star Whale, he'd no longer deserve to hold the name. In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E11TheGodComplex The God Complex]], the mysterious person in Room 11, heralded by the cloister bell. Just an episode ago, [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver in Nightmare in Silver]], the Doctor warns Mr. Clever he could regenerate right now, but doesn't want to, claiming "Who knows what we might get?". [[Recap/DoctorWhoS23E4TheUltimateFoe But he knows exactly what comes between his]] [[ExactWords twelfth and final regenerations]]. The Tenth Doctor's fears regarding his regeneration(s) could also fall under this heading.
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* Much of the Eleventh Doctor's run makes more sense, now. Going back to [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E02TheBeastBelow The Beast Below]], the Doctor saying that if he killed the Star Whale, he'd no longer deserve to hold the name. In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E11TheGodComplex The God Complex]], the mysterious person in Room 11, heralded by the cloister bell. Just an episode ago, [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver in Nightmare in Silver]], the Doctor warns Mr. Clever he could regenerate right now, but doesn't want to, claiming "Who knows what we might get?". [[Recap/DoctorWhoS23E4TheUltimateFoe But he knows exactly what comes between his]] [[ExactWords twelfth and final regenerations]]. The Tenth Doctor's fears regarding his regeneration(s) could also fall under this heading.
10th Jan '14 5:39:52 PM Discar
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Stripping out natter, first person, and disproven entries.
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* Much of the Eleventh Doctor's run makes more sense, now. Going back to [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E02TheBeastBelow The Beast Below]], the Doctor saying that if he killed the Star Whale, he'd no longer deserve to hold the name. In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E11TheGodComplex The God Complex]], the mysterious person in Room 11, heralded by the cloister bell. Just an episode ago, [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver in Nightmare in Silver]], the Doctor warns Mr. Clever he could regenerate right now, but doesn't want to, claiming "Who knows what we might get?". [[Recap/DoctorWhoS23E4TheUltimateFoe But he knows exactly what comes between his]] [[ExactWords twelfth and thirteenth regenerations]]. The Tenth Doctor's fears regarding his regeneration(s) could also fall under this heading. ** The exact words spoken by the Master were 'somewhere between your twelth and *final* incarnations, not thirteenth - nitpicky, perhaps, but when you use the trope 'exact words'... ** Another one: The Doctor in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E13TheBigBang The Big Bang]] said he hated repeats. What could he have been scared of repeating? [[spoiler:Hurt.]] * The very title, ''The Name of the Doctor''. Fans were in holy uproar that Moffat would give the Doctor an actual name after fifty years of [[StealthPun Doctor Who]]. But the title never had anything to do with the Doctor's given name, but the name he chose for himself. It's all about ''the name of the Doctor'' itself. [[spoiler: and inferring the horrible thing's he'd once done that made him ''renounce'' the name of The Doctor.]] ** It might be said that a better way to write the title would be ''The Name of "The Doctor."'' Plus the Doctor says his real name isn't the point - a nice way to lampshade all the fans who mistakenly thought Moffat would finally give the Doctor an actual name. *** We were told we would hear "The Name of the Doctor" in the episode and we did, those [[ExactWords exact words]].
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* Much of the Eleventh Doctor's run makes more sense, now. Going back to [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E02TheBeastBelow The Beast Below]], the Doctor saying that if he killed the Star Whale, he'd no longer deserve to hold the name. In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E11TheGodComplex The God Complex]], the mysterious person in Room 11, heralded by the cloister bell. Just an episode ago, [[Recap/DoctorWhoS33E12NightmareInSilver in Nightmare in Silver]], the Doctor warns Mr. Clever he could regenerate right now, but doesn't want to, claiming "Who knows what we might get?". [[Recap/DoctorWhoS23E4TheUltimateFoe But he knows exactly what comes between his]] [[ExactWords twelfth and thirteenth final regenerations]]. The Tenth Doctor's fears regarding his regeneration(s) could also fall under this heading. ** The exact words spoken by the Master were 'somewhere between your twelth and *final* incarnations, not thirteenth - nitpicky, perhaps, but when you use the trope 'exact words'... ** Another one: * The Doctor in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E13TheBigBang The Big Bang]] said he hated repeats. What could he have been scared of repeating? [[spoiler:Hurt.[[spoiler:The War Doctor.]] * The very title, ''The Name of the Doctor''. Fans were in holy uproar that Moffat would give the Doctor an actual name after fifty years of [[StealthPun Doctor Who]]. But the title never had anything to do with the Doctor's given name, but the name he chose for himself. It's all about ''the name of the Doctor'' itself. [[spoiler: and inferring the horrible thing's he'd once done that made him ''renounce'' the name of The Doctor.]] ** It might be said that a better way to write the title would be ''The Name of "The Doctor."'' Plus the Doctor says his real name isn't the point - a nice way to lampshade all the fans who mistakenly thought Moffat would finally give the Doctor an actual name. *** ]] We were told we would hear "The Name of the Doctor" in the episode and we did, those [[ExactWords exact words]].

* When the Great Intelligence was condemning the Doctor for all the aliens he has butchered, it seemed odd that he would miss the Sontarans even though one of them was present. Then I realised, as a Sontaran, Strax would then have the moral right to deny him, while nobody present had the right to speak for, say, the Sycorax. Why give them that opportunity? ** It might also be because the [[BloodKnight Sontarans]] wouldn't consider all the deaths their race has suffered at the Doctor's hands to be an atrocity, but noble sacrifices who have fallen in ''glorious'' battle with a WorthyOpponent! After all, these are the guys who actually ''wanted'' to fight in the Time War and were ''furious'' when they weren't allowed to! Sontarans ''[[InLoveWithYourCarnage love]]'' the Doctor's [[PersonOfMassDestruction talent for destruction!]]
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* When the Great Intelligence was condemning the Doctor for all the aliens he has butchered, it seemed odd that he would miss the Sontarans even though one of them was present. Then I realised, That's because, as a Sontaran, Strax would then have the moral right to deny him, while nobody present had the right to speak for, say, the Sycorax. Why give them that opportunity? ** It might also be because opportunity? Not to mention that the [[BloodKnight Sontarans]] wouldn't consider all the deaths their race has suffered at the Doctor's hands to be an atrocity, but noble sacrifices who have fallen in ''glorious'' battle with a WorthyOpponent! After all, these are the guys who actually ''wanted'' to fight in the Time War and were ''furious'' when they weren't allowed to! to. Sontarans ''[[InLoveWithYourCarnage love]]'' the Doctor's [[PersonOfMassDestruction talent for destruction!]]destruction]].

* The Doctor's threat to the Vashta Nerada in [[Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E9ForestOfTheDead Forest of the Dead]] is even more prominent if the Library has knowledge of the actions of [[spoiler: Creator/JohnHurt!Doctor]]
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* The Doctor's threat to the Vashta Nerada in [[Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E9ForestOfTheDead Forest of the Dead]] is even more prominent if the Library has knowledge of the actions of [[spoiler: Creator/JohnHurt!Doctor]]Creator/JohnHurt!Doctor]]. If River Song has access to the same Library, of course she would have knowledge of The Doctor's ''entire life'', hence her behavior in this episode.

** If River Song has access to the same Library, of course she would have knowledge of The Doctor's ''entire life'', hence her behavior in this episode. ** Hell, Moffat's been dropping hints at this reveal even before he took over the show. We know he said in the past that there must be some "terrible secret" behind why the Doctor hides his real name. Now we have a hint at the secret thanks to the last few moments of the episode, plus the other hints he's scattered. -->'''Reinette:''' Doctor who? It's more than just a secret, isn't it? -->'''The Doctor:''' Good men don't ''need'' rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many. ** And of course, the many repetitions of the Doctor being a ''madman with a box.''
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** If River Song has access to the same Library, of course she would have knowledge of The Doctor's ''entire life'', hence her behavior in this episode. ** * Hell, Moffat's been dropping hints at this reveal even before he took over the show. We know he said in the past that there must be some "terrible secret" behind why the Doctor hides his real name. Now we have a hint at the secret thanks to the last few moments of the episode, plus the other hints he's scattered. -->'''Reinette:''' Doctor who? It's more than just a secret, isn't it? -->'''The it?\\ '''The Doctor:''' Good men don't ''need'' rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many. ** And of course, the many repetitions of the Doctor being a ''madman with a box.''many.

* We saw that as Clara entered The Doctor's timeline, she was split thousands of times. Each of those separate copies was shown to have been born and lived a life in that section of the timeline. One of those copies was a Time Lady on Gallifrey. ** Not sure how that's Fridge Brilliance, unless you're saying that means the Doctor's not really alone anymore. Besides, that's more like Fridge HORROR since she died in the Time War (if not prior).

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* Who buried the Doctor? He did. Knowing that his death would leave behind a dangerous NegativeSpaceWedgie, he prudently prepared an unbreakable locking mechanism, and left instructions for his surviving friends to install it in the tomb they'd build around his timeline. He attuned it to open ''only'' in response to his name, then had the [=TARDIS=] isolate the chamber where it was kept from her network of corridors, with instructions to make the device accessible in the event of his confirmed and permanent demise.

* Keep in mind that the Doctor has no problem talking about that time he blew up his home planet and wiped out his own people. [[spoiler: Whatever the Creator/JohnHurt!Doctor did that made him renounce the name of the Doctor, it's ''worse''.]] ** Even more than that, whatever terrible thing he was running from that made him originally give up his name and become "the Doctor", it must have been ''nothing'' compared to [[spoiler: whatever Creator/JohnHurt!Doctor did that the other incarnations believe he "[[ThisIsUnforgivable broke the promise!]]".]] ** I actually kind of assumed that killing his own people would be [[spoiler: the terrible thing the Hurt-Doctor did.]] ** And I actually kind of assumed that the reason the Doctor ran away from Gallifrey was because he was either terrified of the Untempered Schism, or avoiding responsibility of some sort, or simply sick of Timelord society being so stuffy and restrictive. As for his name, he says here "the name you choose, it's like a promise". So I don't see it so much as giving up his old name, but instead that by taking the name of The Doctor, he dedicated his life to making things better. ** You can't "break" a promise that you haven't yet made, however. [[spoiler: If Hurt is the Doctor's first incarnation, he'd have to have ''initially'' called himself "the Doctor" in that lifetime, then failed to live up to the name, only to revert to it as Hartnell.]]

* It's now well known that Clara has already died twice, and it's revealed it's because [[spoiler: she scattered herself through out the Doctor's life to avert what the Great Intelligence did.]] If that's the case, ''how many times has she died during this time?'' ** Erm, technically speaking they all died eventually. So if we say that she appears, I dunno, 12,000 times - all those will eventually die, heroic sacrfice or not. ** I'm curious as to how much of [[spoiler: all those lives]] she remembers. And how much of [[spoiler: her echoes]] were conscious of their purpose. Because some seemed to be actively looking for the Doctor, but [[spoiler: the two we met previously]] didn't really (consciously at least) seem to know who he was. * If the John Hurt "Doctor" is a past incarnation, then by the rules established long ago, he only has one regeneration left. ** That final, twelfth-to-thirteenth regeneration? THAT WILL BE THE ONE THAT GOES WRONG AND CREATES [[EvilMeScaresMe THE VALEYARD]]. ** The thirteen regenerations rule, according to ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' episode "The Death of the Doctor", was imposed by the Time Lords and not actually a biological restriction (indeed, this had been implied already by the Time Lords giving TheMaster an additional regeneration cycle). The Doctor claims that he has 507 total regenerations, although this may have been a joke. *** RTD has said it was a joke. ** A rather recent concept surrounding regeneration is "regeneration energy", which is limited, if River's reaction to the Doctor wasting some of his to heal her wrist is any indication. The Doctor's already wasted some to heal his tenth body without regenerating, and again when he healed River's wrist. And now with Hurt's incarnation, the Doctor should already be in his final life. *** This might be true. When Clara saw the John Hurt Doctor, she said she saw the Doctor's faces, all 11 of them. Since Clara travelled to the Doctor's future as well, as of yet, the Doctor only has 11 faces, 11 lives. *** Could be Clara just didn't want to reveal anything about the Doctor's future -- not to him, not to the viewers. *** Or that she (and GI) were unable to influence anything past the current point in his timeline, due to the paradoxes it might create. Or even that she only went as far as GI did, i.e., to this point in the Doctor's timeline, because there was no need to mess with the future if he was destroyed in the past. **** The paradoxes point doesn't hold any water, since reversing even a single one of the doctor's victories would remove any future adventures. Reversing them all is a paradox so large it's no wonder the episode didn't try to address it. *** Remember also that River gave him all of her regeneration energy when she revived him. There's no telling how much he has left now. *** Perhaps the Time Lords just gave him more regenerations during the Time War. * During "The Pandorica Opens", The Doctor is described as being "soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies." While any incarnation of The Doctor may have blood on his hands, no one would go so far as to say any incarnation we'd seen previously, or their sum total, would equal a billion galaxies. What if that's not hyperbole, but the actions of this disowned Doctor? ** That was a reference to The Alliance's mistaken belief that he was about to destroy the entire universe. ** Alternately, he may share some complicity (deserved or not) in the [[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E7Logopolis destruction of a healthy chunk of the known universe]]. * One of the Doctor's future titles is [[Recap/DoctorWhoNSS2E8TheImpossiblePlanet The Beast]]. At some point in the future the Doctor may be sent back to before the universe, be defeated by the disciples of the light, and become the inspiration for the Devil in countless civilizations, only to be defeated by his past self and be trapped in a blackhole. No wonder the Beast knew so much about the Doctor, and everyone on the base. Then again, the Great Intelligence could have been lying. ** Of course, in the AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho stories, ''[[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho050Zagreus Zagreus]]'' was basically an "Evil Doctor" and sometimes was referred to by the title of "The Beast". So it could just be a ContinuityNod from the same guy that based his entire Season Finale on ''[[Recap/EighthDoctorAdventuresUnnaturalHistory Unnatural History]]''. ** There ''could'' just be more than one entity in the universe nicknamed "the Beast"... ** Alternatively and possibly just as horrifying: the Beast is said to be the inspiration for every religion's version of the Devil. At some point, the Doctor becomes [[TheDreaded so terrifying]] and such a [[HeroWithBadPublicity devastating influence]] that, to the universe at large, [[{{Satan}} he is the greatest evil who ever lived.]] The Beast knew so much about the Doctor not because he is him, but because the Doctor '''is his sucsessor.''' * The Doctor knows about his [[spoiler:gravesite]]. First off, this means that he would've learned of/visited his [[spoiler:gravesite]] before, which is creepy in itself. But more disturbing is who [[spoiler:buried him]], considering his name was the key and all other Time Lords are dead. This leads to three distinct possibilities: ** It was a companion who the Doctor cared about so deeply he revealed his name-likely his ''last'' companion ** The Doctor had to bury his own future body. ** His final incarnation [[DrivenToSuicide buried himself]] *** Other option: He died and his body was just left in the crashed TARDIS. *** He doesn’t initially know about his gravesite. When talking with Clara he makes an offhand comment that he ''suspected'' that Trenzalore was where he was buried. It was the “his grave… It is discovered” bit that actually confirmed it for him. ** Or maybe, knowing that his death would leave behind a dangerous NegativeSpaceWedgie, he'd prudently prepared an unbreakable locking mechanism, and left instructions for his surviving friends to install it in the tomb they'd build around his timeline. He attuned it to open ''only'' in response to his name, then had the [=TARDIS=] isolate the chamber where it was kept from her network of corridors, with instructions to make the device accessible in the event of his confirmed and permanent demise.
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* It's now well known that Clara has already died twice, and it's revealed it's because [[spoiler: she scattered herself through out the Doctor's life to avert what the Great Intelligence did.]] If that's the case, ''how many times has she died during this time?'' ** Erm, technically speaking they all died eventually. So if we say that she appears, I dunno, 12,000 times - all those will eventually die, heroic sacrfice or not. ** I'm curious as to how much of [[spoiler: all those lives]] she remembers. And how much of [[spoiler: her echoes]] were conscious of their purpose. Because some seemed to be actively looking for the Doctor, but [[spoiler: the two we met previously]] didn't really (consciously at least) seem to know who he was. * If the John Hurt "Doctor" is a past incarnation, then by the rules established long ago, he only has one regeneration left. ** That final, twelfth-to-thirteenth regeneration? THAT WILL BE THE ONE THAT GOES WRONG AND CREATES [[EvilMeScaresMe THE VALEYARD]]. ** The thirteen regenerations rule, according to ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures'' episode "The Death of the Doctor", was imposed by the Time Lords and not actually a biological restriction (indeed, this had been implied already by the Time Lords giving TheMaster an additional regeneration cycle). The Doctor claims that he has 507 total regenerations, although this may have been a joke. *** RTD has said it was a joke. ** A rather recent concept surrounding regeneration is "regeneration energy", which is limited, if River's reaction to the Doctor wasting some of his to heal her wrist is any indication. The Doctor's already wasted some to heal his tenth body without regenerating, and again when he healed River's wrist. And now with Hurt's incarnation, the Doctor should already be in his final life. *** This might be true. When Clara saw the John Hurt Doctor, she said she saw the Doctor's faces, all 11 of them. Since Clara travelled to the Doctor's future as well, as of yet, the Doctor only has 11 faces, 11 lives. *** Could be Clara just didn't want to reveal anything about the Doctor's future -- not to him, not to the viewers. *** Or that she (and GI) were unable to influence anything past the current point in his timeline, due to the paradoxes it might create. Or even that she only went as far as GI did, i.e., to this point in the Doctor's timeline, because there was no need to mess with the future if he was destroyed in the past. **** The paradoxes point doesn't hold any water, since reversing even a single one of the doctor's victories would remove any future adventures. Reversing them all is a paradox so large it's no wonder the episode didn't try to address it. *** Remember also that River gave him all of her regeneration energy when she revived him. There's no telling how much he has left now. *** Perhaps the Time Lords just gave him more regenerations during the Time War. * During "The Pandorica Opens", The Doctor is described as being "soaked in the blood of a billion galaxies." While any incarnation of The Doctor may have blood on his hands, no one would go so far as to say any incarnation we'd seen previously, or their sum total, would equal a billion galaxies. What if that's not hyperbole, but the actions of this disowned Doctor? ** That was a reference to The Alliance's mistaken belief that he was about to destroy the entire universe. ** Alternately, he may share some complicity (deserved or not) in the [[Recap/DoctorWhoS18E7Logopolis destruction of a healthy chunk of the known universe]]. * One of the Doctor's future titles is [[Recap/DoctorWhoNSS2E8TheImpossiblePlanet The Beast]]. At some point in the future the Doctor may be sent back to before the universe, be defeated by the disciples of the light, and become the inspiration for the Devil in countless civilizations, only to be defeated by his past self and be trapped in a blackhole. No wonder the Beast knew so much about the Doctor, and everyone on the base. Then again, the Great Intelligence could have been lying. ** Of course, in the AudioPlay/BigFinishDoctorWho stories, ''[[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWho050Zagreus Zagreus]]'' was basically an "Evil Doctor" and sometimes was referred to by the title of "The Beast". So it could just be a ContinuityNod from the same guy that based his entire Season Finale on ''[[Recap/EighthDoctorAdventuresUnnaturalHistory Unnatural History]]''. ** There ''could'' just be more than one entity in the universe nicknamed "the Beast"... ** Alternatively and possibly just as horrifying: the Beast is said to be the inspiration for every religion's version of the Devil. At some point, the Doctor becomes [[TheDreaded so terrifying]] and such a [[HeroWithBadPublicity devastating influence]] that, to the universe at large, [[{{Satan}} he is the greatest evil who ever lived.]] The Beast knew so much about the Doctor not because he is him, but because the Doctor '''is his sucsessor.''' * The Doctor knows about his [[spoiler:gravesite]]. First off, this means that he would've learned of/visited his [[spoiler:gravesite]] before, which is creepy in itself. But more disturbing is who [[spoiler:buried him]], considering his name was the key and all other Time Lords are dead. This leads to three distinct possibilities: ** It was a companion who the Doctor cared about so deeply he revealed his name-likely his ''last'' companion ** The Doctor had to bury his own future body. ** His final incarnation [[DrivenToSuicide buried himself]] *** Other option: He died and his body was just left in the crashed TARDIS. *** He doesn’t initially know about his gravesite. When talking with Clara he makes an offhand comment that he ''suspected'' that Trenzalore was where he was buried. It was the “his grave… It is discovered” bit that actually confirmed it for him. ** Or maybe, knowing that his death would leave behind a dangerous NegativeSpaceWedgie, he'd prudently prepared an unbreakable locking mechanism, and left instructions for his surviving friends to install it in the tomb they'd build around his timeline. He attuned it to open ''only'' in response to his name, then had the [=TARDIS=] isolate the chamber where it was kept from her network of corridors, with instructions to make the device accessible in the event of his confirmed and permanent demise.Doctor?
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