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22nd Jan '18 7:43:02 AM Vale
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** As pointed out above, not all Centauri know how they'll die, and not all of them fight like madmen. Then again, Londo ''did'' know how he'd die, so that would explain it.
** On the topic of Centauri pilots, if you watch the space battle between the humans and the Centauri in ''The Lost Tales'', note that the Centauri ships are demonstrably more powerful, easily outmaneuvering even the famously agile Starfuries (possibly aided by the blackout tactic).

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** As pointed out above, not all Centauri know how they'll die, and not all of them fight like madmen. Then again, Londo ''did'' know how he'd die, or at least ''believed'' he did, so that would explain it.
** On the topic of Centauri pilots, if you watch the space battle between the humans and the Centauri in ''The Lost Tales'', note that the Centauri ships are demonstrably more powerful, easily outmaneuvering even the famously agile Starfuries (possibly aided by the blackout tactic).tactic, as well as more sophisticated technology).
15th Jan '18 11:26:52 AM AFP
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* In ''Knives'', Urza challenges Londo to a duel to the death after learning that Londo was allies with Lord Refa. At a party where he happened to have invited dozens of Centauri nobles, which means that there is no way for Londo to back out with shaming himself in front of many of the Republic's movers and shakers. First off, it's not clear how many Centauri nobles routinely find themselves on B5, and second off, Urza mentions that knowledge is a basic tool of politics, and that his is considerable. It seems very possible that Urza already knew of Londo's relationship with Lord Refa, and engineered the whole situation to force the duel, which he planned to throw so his family would be protected by Londo's under the law. Convincing Londo to publicly denounce Lord Refa instead would have also been a win for him, making the whole situation a potential XanatosGambit, assuming Londo too proud to both not denounce Refa and also dishonor himself by backing out of the duel.
13th Jan '18 10:14:06 AM AFP
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** From the same episode: The plot is kicked into action when Sheridan's comm link is [[PercussivePickpocket stolen by a thief]], who he goes chasing off after in the heat of the moment. In a later scene, they discuss how stealing the link was pointless, because a stolen link is by definition worthless, since it gets remotely locked out and flagged as stolen. Later on, when the robed figure asks for an offering, Sheridan admits he has nothing of significant value on him, and can only offer part of his uniform, essentially a worthless trinket. The robed figure accepts it. Many things we value only have the value that we put in them, even if only in the moment.
9th Jan '18 3:24:17 PM Conhale
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* Explaining the Plot of the Gathering.\\\
Using what we know from the main series (Shadow philosophy, Sinclair's forgotten day) and the deleted aspects (Minbari Warrior Caste destroying Babylon 5, Takashima hosting the Control agent personality rather than Talia/shooting Garibaldi in the back), one can reconstruct what is going on in ''The Gatherings'' background. The Shadows ultimately want to reduce Vorlon influence, trying to do this by assassinating the first Vorlon Ambassador we've ever heard about and framing humans as the culprit - Vorlons become more isolated and definitely won't get along with the humans. The Shadows have either corrupted or exploited a disgruntled Warrior Caste clan who feel humiliated by surrendering at the Battle of the Line and likely consider it an obscenity for a human to have a Minbari soul. The Narns are secretly negotiating with the Warrior Caste for stronger allies and firepower, to ensure they can never be enslaved again and hurt the Centauri. The Shadow's human agents lead to the activation of Takashima. Del Varner is just a mercenary looking for a big score and thus willing to risk returning to EA space.\\\
Kosh either knows or suspects an attempt on his life, hence the arriving two days early and disabling docking bay cameras. The conspirators adapt to various set backs (Varner missing his rendezvous, Kosh arriving early...) through careful coordination. G'kar has public confrontations with Takashima to suggest the Narns couldn't have been involved and deflect suspicion. The Assassin and Varner meet, the assassin kills Varner and takes his place, removing a witness. He uses Takashima's entry codes to place blame on the humans (likely just the Minbari throwing the humans under the bus). Takashima keeps the conspirators informed, detains Sinclair at the vital moment and clears the logs, informs the Vorlons immediately about Kosh's assault, informs G'kar about the antidote who then informs the assassin in the Alien Sector, and runs interference for the boarding pod - it's notable that C&C only detects it when she's NOT in the dome. She is also notably angry/frustrated when Kosh arrives early - her dual personality bleeding into the forefront.\\\
G'kar suggests a formal alliance with Delenn, as it's similar to what is going on with the warrior caste, but she turns him down. When he tries to argue using the Minbari embarassment and possible alienation of the Gray Council, she strikes out - he doesn't know she's Gray Council and was personally responsible for both the War and the Surrender. Londo is specifically detained in the casino by the assassin posing as a gullible patron to provide an ironclad alibi, Centauri have no Vorlon influence and the Shadows likely wanted to use them later. Takashima also supports Kyle's idea of using Lyta to scan the Vorlon, both providing the EA with intelligence about the Vorlon mind and revealing the apparent Sinclair as the assassin. This would also anger the Vorlons - "You dare scan one of US?" She notably uses an illogical argument to support this ("I haven't broken the rules in a long time, so I guess I'm about due..."). Takashima was likely also the source for the conspirators framing Sinclair's girlfriend as an accessory - providing the poison to build a better case against the Commander. If Kosh hadn't arrived early, she would have long before the Ambassador would have. For his part, Garibaldi runs an honest investigation but no one believes he's up to the challenge of solving the case in time (the Senator questions his credentials and Garibaldi notably questions himself).\\\
In the end, the assassin is defeated, Takashima's role is never revealed (possibly leading to other conspirators recalling Takashima so as to avoid her exposure), G'kar is blackmailed, and it ultimately boils down to a rogue Minbari assassin trying to undermine Babylon 5. Lyta and Kyle are transferred back to Earthdome for debriefing due to their intimacy with the Vorlon (conveniently clearing the way for the new Control agent, Talia, to come abord), and life goes on. Takashima likely worked to clean up any remaining incriminating evidence. The only hanging threads are - what did the Assassin mean by "there is a hole in your mind" and how did Kosh get exposed to the poison?. The former is explained, the latter is commented on but never explained.
11th Oct '17 8:58:02 AM AFP
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** Given the state of Centauri politics, and as many enemies as Londo has made in his rise to power, it's at least possible (if not spoken) that this is either some government official's idea of putting Londo in his place, or of how much importance the court officially holds the position of Prime Minister in, entirely apart from how much power Londo directly held while filling that office.
26th Jul '17 8:37:33 AM AFP
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* After their fight lands Marcus in the hospital, Neroon visits and shares an epiphiny he had about how he and Marcus are NotSoDifferent. Marcus requests that for his next revalation, he find a method of getting there which isn't so painful, a remark that Neroon finds hilarious. We learn in Season 5 that Minbari humor centers around the failure to reach enlightment (and puns). Marcus's observation about Neroon's difficulty finding enlightment without beating someone senseless is thus particularly funny to a Minbari warrior.
20th Jul '17 9:30:33 PM AFP
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* Londo remarks that by getting drunk, he can put his keeper to sleep and give him some brief moments of freedom, presumably while himself on the edge of an alcohol-induced blackout. Why would the keeper even allow him to do this? Because alcohol is ''addictive''. Londo got his keeper hooked on his own drug of choice and now the keeper wants it as badly as he does, but lacks the tolerance for it.

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* After he becomes emperor, Londo remarks tells Sheridan that by getting drunk, he can put his keeper to sleep and give him some brief moments of freedom, presumably while himself on the edge of an alcohol-induced blackout. Why would the keeper even allow him to do this? Because alcohol is ''addictive''. Londo got his keeper hooked on his own drug of choice and now the keeper wants it as badly as he does, but lacks the tolerance for it.
20th Jul '17 9:29:43 PM AFP
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* Londo remarks that by getting drunk, he can put his keeper to sleep and give him some brief moments of freedom, presumably while himself on the edge of an alcohol-induced blackout. Why would the keeper even allow him to do this? Because alcohol is ''addictive''. Londo got his keeper hooked on his own drug of choice and now the keeper wants it as badly as he does, but lacks the tolerance for it.
5th Jun '17 12:23:32 PM AFP
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** Alternately, the guards might have been bringing it to her out of pity. [[LoopholeAbuse Perhaps they were never ordered not to feed the prisoner a delicacy.]]
21st Apr '17 2:04:44 PM Gess
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** As a cherry on top, Vir's request was to "live just long enough" to see Morden's head on a spike. ''That also nearly came to be'' - just as Vir was waving his goodbyes the Vorlon Planet Killer was positioning itself to fire upon Centauri Prime and only left because a completely unexpected event elsewhere required its withdrawal.
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