History Fridge / AliceinWonderland

!!The Books

* The title of ''Literature/AliceInWonderland''. I'm Swedish, so when I was a kid, before I knew English, I knew it as ''Alice i Underlandet'', which means the exact same thing. However, the Swedish word "under" means both "wonder" and "below", and I always assumed that they meant "Alice in the Land Below", which made sense to me, since she went ''down'' the rabbit hole. It wasn't until I started school and learned English that I realised what they really meant.
** The original title, by the way, was "Alice's Adventures Underground".
** {{Woolseyism}}s yay!

* When Alice is at the Mad Hatter's tea party, she notices that his watch shows days but not hours. When she asks why, he asks if her watch shows what year it is. Which seems like nonsense--until you remember that ''it's always teatime for him''. Why bother having a watch that shows the same time forever?

* The White Knight's clumsiness makes sense when you consider the fact that he's a chess knight, and therefore literally incapable of walking in a straight line.

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* What would happen if the Red King had a nightmare?
** [[HumansAreFlawed Who's to say he's not having one now?]]
** Explanations for mass extinctions, genocide, war? His nightmares.
* What if he woke up? Omniversal Scope ApocalypseHow ?

!!The Films
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* The White Queen apparently can brew potions that cause you to change size. She is normal-shaped. Her sister, the Red Queen, has a size at least three times larger than normal. [[LightIsNotGood Who is the real villain?]]

** [[InsistentTerminology Underland]]/Wonderland seemed like much more of a [[LighterAndSofter safer place]] when Alice was a little girl. Well there's something that should be considered: in the [[Literature/AliceInWonderland original novel]] whenever the Queen of Hearts would send someone to their execution, the King of Hearts would pardon them before it could be carried out. With the king dead, well [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen you know the rest]]...

* The woman who was born that way. Remember, Alice shrank and grew through outside influence, making it a reversible condition. The Queen of Hearts didn't, so the potion would do nothing.

** The White Queen apparently can brew potions that cause you to change size. She is normal-shaped. Her sister, the Red Queen, has a size at least three times larger than normal. [[LightIsNotGood Who is the real villain?]]

** The woman who was born that way. Remember, Alice shrank and grew through outside influence, making it a reversible condition. The Queen of Hearts didn't, so the potion would do nothing.
*** The Knave of Hearts. His arms and legs are a little too long. Did he take the potion? Was the potion connected to some sort of drug, and he took it?

*** A common symptom for depression IS fatigue, maybe she's still depressed from the loss of her [[spoiler: father]]and being pressured into marriage.

** [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs You obviously]] [[DidNotDoTheResearch Did Not Do The]] [[http://www.alice-in-wonderland.net/alice11.html#2 Research]].

*** The Knave of Hearts. His arms and legs are a little too long. Did he take the potion? Was the potion connected to some sort of drug, and he took it?

** When Bayard the dog first appeared on the screen, I was a little baffled. I warmed up to him quickly (who couldn't, with those puppies?), but I didn't see the point in adding the dog to the tale, other than as another ally for Alice. It was a few days later when I remembered something -- in the first book, ''Alice meets a puppy!'' Granted, he didn't speak to her then, but who's to say that wasn't a young Bayard?
** Also, I was annoyed by the fact that The Knave's eyepatch kept changing color. The it hit me: It's only red in the scenes ''with the Red Queen'' and black in every else scene. The eyepatch is a visual representation of his actual feelings: When it's red, he's faking love and adoration for the Red Queen but as soon as she leaves, it changes to black to show, that deep down, his just as cold and cruel ("black-hearted") as any other villain.

** Recently had this breakthrough: It had started bugging me a little that the residents of Wunderland were so set on following a prophesied path. I mean, the whole point of the place is that everyone is mad, so why should they care about prophecy so much? Why not make their own random paths? Then today, I remembered something from "Through the Looking Glass" -- Wonderlanders, or at least Looking-Glass Landers, can remember things backwards ''and forwards.'' To them, they've already remembered what's going to happen! (Hell, when you think about it, isn't a prophecy sort of like a memory of the future anyway?)
** How about this one. At the end of the new film, Alice goes to open trade with China. Historically, this was done by the British Army going to war with China in order to sell Opium. Here's the brilliance: The majority of Alice in Wonderland was written by Caroll when he was regularly taking Opium. Alice is retroactively ensuring her own existence!
*** [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs You obviously]] [[DidNotDoTheResearch Did Not Do The]] [[http://www.alice-in-wonderland.net/alice11.html#2 Research]].
** This is a very minor detail, but in that scene where the Red Queen orders the frog executed and his children brought to her, she says, "I love tadpoles on toast, almost as much as I love caviar." The first two times I saw this movie, I thought the horrible thing was that she was treating talking animal kids like food. The third time, I realized that she's talking about eating caviar--''to a fish!'' That's just ''wrong!'' -Katzsoa
*** Also doubles as something of an [[InvertedTrope inverted]] YouHaveFailedMe - she's threatening her fish servant with the deaths of his ''[[FridgeHorror unborn children]]'' to keep him in line. -zandercan

** [[HumansAreBastards Who's to say he's not having one now?]]

* What if he woke up? ApocalypseHow Class Z?

* The title of ''AliceInWonderland''. I'm Swedish, so when I was a kid, before I knew English, I knew it as ''Alice i Underlandet'', which means the exact same thing. However, the Swedish word "under" means both "wonder" and "below", and I always assumed that they meant "Alice in the Land Below", which made sense to me, since she went ''down'' the rabbit hole. It wasn't until I started school and learned English that I realised what they really meant.

** [[InsistentTerminology Underland]]/Wonderland seemed like much more of a [[LighterAndSofter safer place]] when Alice was a little girl. Well there's something that should be considered: in the [[AliceInWonderland original novel]] whenever the Queen of Hearts would send someone to their execution, the King of Hearts would pardon them before it could be carried out. With the king dead, well [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen you know the rest]]...

*** The Knave of Hearts. His arms and legs are a little too long. Did he take the potion? Was the potion connected to some sort of drug, and he took it?


!! FridgeLogic:
* I know, I know, this is Wonderland, but you still gotta wonder. Apparently the Vorpal Sword is the only means to slay the Jabberwock(y) - "if it ain't Vorpal, it ain't dead". But ironically, to know this for sure, the only way would be to actually slay him. And ''de facto'' the dragon appears to have had at least an encounter with the blade, possibly more, but there he was standing in front of Alice, very much alive. So how would the denizens of Dreamland know the Vorpal Blade can kill him?
** Unless that is no other weapon can even pierce his skin anyways.
** Or unless he has in fact been killed but has regenerated through his own power or the Red Queen's - if he has that possibility, this would mean Alice's efforts were moot anyways.
** Or that it had been foretold, apparently quite precisely.
** The Jabberwock ''specifically'' calls the Vorpal Blade his "ancient enemy", with Alice a mere bearer. So yeah, either he's been killed and regenerated/resurrected before, or simply wounded by the only thing that COULD hurt him.

!! FridgeHorror
* What would happen if the Red King had a nightmare?

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!! FridgeBrilliance