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Is this saying that cats have legs, but humans apparently don't? The saying works regardless of whether Sissel is a cat or not; it's not foreshadowing.


** In Chapter 7, when Lynne tells Sissel "I'm telling you, you had better shake a leg, or we're going to miss what they're saying!" he responds with "It'd be pretty hard to 'shake a leg', not having legs and all..." [[spoiler:Correction, Sissel, you do have legs. ''Four'' of them, to be exact.]]
*** A bit later, when Sissel notices that Lynne has some "really deep, dark feelings" in the park because she swore she'd never set foot there again, she responds with a "Hold it! Don't give me that 'a ghost doesn't have feet to set' bit! It's just a figure of speech!" [[spoiler:Not even human feet, actually, considering.]]

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** When Sissel is instructed by Lynne to read the blackboard [[spoiler:while inside the special prison]], he reveals that he can't read and has a FreakOut. [[spoiler:Assuming the words on the blackboard were in an understandable language, it should give the valid hint that Sissel isn't human.]]

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** When Sissel is instructed by Lynne to read the blackboard [[spoiler:while inside the special prison]], he reveals that he can't read and has a FreakOut.FreakOut, assuming it to be because he's forgotten how to do so in death. [[spoiler:Assuming the words on the blackboard were in an understandable language, it should give the valid hint that Sissel isn't human.]]
*** Later on, when trying to save [[spoiler:Detective Jowd]] from death, the player can re-examine the blackboards, leading to different and missable dialogue. This time, Sissel asks his fellow spirit if they can read the board; they reply that they can, [[spoiler:indicating that Sissel's inability to read ''isn't'' simply because he's dead.
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** One of the first lines in the game is [[spoiler:Sissel rhetorically asking if there are any other dead bodies around aside the man in the red suit, and assumes himself to be him. There is in fact a second dead body in the scene and Sissel [[TomatoInTheMirror has taken appearance of the wrong one]]]].

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** One of the first lines in the game is [[spoiler:Sissel rhetorically asking if there are he can see any other dead bodies around aside the man in the red suit, and assumes himself to be him. There is in fact a second dead body in the scene that he can't see, and Sissel [[TomatoInTheMirror has taken appearance of the wrong one]]]].
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** During a conversation in Chapter 11, Kamila starts calling Sissel "Sissy". [[spoiler:"Sissy" is a perfect name choice for any pet, whether dog or cat, which conveys a sense of warmth and love; and Sissel happens to fit that personality as a cat. [[https://www.pageant.dog/name/s/sissy/ More info on the name can be found here.]]]]
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* At one time, when Sissel turns on the flashlight for Lynne, she asks him, "Did you used to be an electrician in your past life or something?" [[spoiler:She, of course, is not far from the truth, as Yomiel, whose form Sissel has taken throughout the game, used to be a computer systems engineer himself, and "one of the best in the industry.]]
* When you alter the [[spoiler:murder machine]] to avert one of Lynne's deaths, it [[spoiler:lights a party popper instead.]] This seems like just a cute little anti-climax. [[spoiler:It turns out this is how the original machine was SUPPOSED to work, which makes for nice symmetry. The first machine was a birthday trick altered into a murder machine by a ghost. The second machine was a murder machine altered into a birthday trick by a different ghost.]]

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* At one time, when Sissel turns on the flashlight for Lynne, she asks him, "Did you used to be an electrician in your past life or something?" [[spoiler:She, of course, is not far from the truth, as Yomiel, whose form Sissel has taken throughout the game, used to be a computer systems engineer himself, and "one of the best in the industry.]]
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* When you alter the [[spoiler:murder machine]] to avert one of Lynne's deaths, it [[spoiler:lights a party popper instead.]] instead]]. This seems like just a cute little anti-climax. [[spoiler:It turns out this is how the original machine was SUPPOSED to work, which makes for nice symmetry. The first machine was a birthday trick altered into a murder machine by a ghost. The second machine was a murder machine altered into a birthday trick by a different ghost.]]
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* At one time, when Sissel turns on the flashlight for Lynne, she asks him, "Did you used to be an electrician in your past life or something?" [[spoiler:She, of course, is not far from the truth, as Yomiel, whose form Sissel has taken throughout the game, used to be a computer systems engineer himself, and "one of the best in the industry.]]
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** In one optional conversation Missile says that he's two years old, and Sissel idly wonder how old HE is. [[spoiler:Not much older, in fact. He's ten.]]

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** In one optional conversation Missile says that he's two years old, and Sissel idly wonder wonders how old HE is. [[spoiler:Not much older, in fact. He's ten.]]
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** One missable conversation in the Junkyard in Chapter 6 has Ray tell Sissel that combining both his bad luck and Lynne's "makes good fortune". Sissel responds with, "I dunno. [[spoiler:By my math, bad luck plus bad luck equals a whole lotta bad luck]]"[[note]]'''Ray:''' You should check your figures.[[/note]], [[spoiler:in reference to the myth that crossing paths with a black cat could mean bad luck, and Sissel just so happens to be that black cat. ''The'' black cat with the red scarf, to be precise.]]
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** In Chapter 7, when Lynne tells Sissel "I'm telling you, you had better shake a leg, or we're going to miss what they're saying!" he responds with "It'd be pretty hard to 'shake a leg', not having legs and all..." [[spoiler:Correction, Sissel, not even having ''human'' legs.]]

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** In Chapter 7, when Lynne tells Sissel "I'm telling you, you had better shake a leg, or we're going to miss what they're saying!" he responds with "It'd be pretty hard to 'shake a leg', not having legs and all..." [[spoiler:Correction, Sissel, not even having ''human'' legs.you do have legs. ''Four'' of them, to be exact.]]
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** In Chapter 7, when Lynne tells Sissel "I'm telling you, you had better shake a leg, or we're going to miss what they're saying!" he responds with "It'd be pretty hard to 'shake a leg', not having legs and all..." [[spoiler:Correction, Sissel, not even having ''human'' legs.]]
*** A bit later, when Sissel notices that Lynne has some "really deep, dark feelings" in the park because she swore she'd never set foot there again, she responds with a "Hold it! Don't give me that 'a ghost doesn't have feet to set' bit! It's just a figure of speech!" [[spoiler:Not even human feet, actually, considering.]]
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* When Sissel and Lynne get to the big red trunk next to Beauty and Dandy, if you examine it, Lynne says the trunk is "very suspicious... and red" before suggesting that they see what's inside, but Sissel shoots down the idea by saying that it's not possible because it's locked, leaving Lynne disappointed. [[spoiler:Of course, they are unaware that the trunk contains Kamila, who is held captive inside.]]

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* When Sissel and Lynne get to the big red trunk next to Beauty and Dandy, Dandy at the Chicken Kitchen, if you examine it, Lynne says the trunk is "very suspicious... and red" before suggesting that they see what's inside, but Sissel shoots down the idea by saying that it's not possible because it's locked, leaving Lynne disappointed. [[spoiler:Of course, they are unaware that the trunk contains Kamila, who is held captive inside.]]

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** This also explains why [[spoiler:it took so long to carry out Jowd's execution order; nobody really thought he was guilty, either, and they were just buying time until the manipulator revealed himself. Unfortunately, Yomiel and the hostage situation forced their hands (literally, in the case of the Justice Minister).]]

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** This also explains why [[spoiler:it took so long to carry out Jowd's execution order; nobody really thought he was guilty, either, and they were just buying time until the manipulator revealed himself. Unfortunately, Yomiel and the hostage situation forced their hands (literally, in the case of the Justice Minister).Minister)]].
* When Sissel and Lynne get to the big red trunk next to Beauty and Dandy, if you examine it, Lynne says the trunk is "very suspicious... and red" before suggesting that they see what's inside, but Sissel shoots down the idea by saying that it's not possible because it's locked, leaving Lynne disappointed. [[spoiler:Of course, they are unaware that the trunk contains Kamila, who is held captive inside.
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*** If you examine the file Commander Sith is holding in Chapter 2, Sissel says that the file is written in some unknown language, [[spoiler:an earlier indication that cats like Sissel can't read.]]


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*** Earlier in Chapter 4, if you travel to the basement before going to Lynne, Sissel says he "can't see very well in this darkness, but it looks like a pretty strange room." [[spoiler:That's because he can't easily adjust to the night vision he had as a cat.]]
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** Chapter 15 [[StealthBasedMission requires you to avoid getting spotted using the powers of the dead]] by the main antagonist. However, he has [[ConspicuouslySelectivePerception an odd tendency to ignore things that should be suspicious just because he didn't see them directly]], and [[spoiler:if he catches you, he makes it clear that he recognizes you on some level]], both of which make a lot more sense after you learn that [[spoiler:Sissel, as his cat, was his OnlyFriend for quite some time, and the only being he has any real positive connection with at this point]].

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** Chapter 15 [[StealthBasedMission requires you to avoid getting spotted using the powers of the dead]] by the main antagonist. However, he has [[ConspicuouslySelectivePerception an odd tendency to ignore things that should be suspicious just because he didn't see them directly]], and [[spoiler:if he catches you, he makes it clear that he recognizes you on some level]], both of which make a lot more sense after you learn that [[spoiler:Sissel, as his cat, was his OnlyFriend for quite some time, and the only being he has any real positive connection with at this point]].point. Most cat owners eventually get used to their cats moving items around and knocking things over when they aren't looking, the exact same things as Sissel's ghost tricks.]]
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*** Quite a lot of puzzles feature rats actually. [[spoiler:Like many cats Sissel just likes playing with rats and mice.]]
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** One of the first lines in the game is [[spoiler:Sissel rhetorically asking if there are any other dead bodies around aside the man in the red suit, and assumes himself to be him. There is in fact a second dead body in the scene and Sissel [[TomatoInTheMirror has taken appearance of the wrong one]]]].
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** Sissel can't read or recall what objects do or what certain terms mean while dead, yet every other dead character - except Missile, who legitimately wouldn't know due to being a dog - can. He figures his memory is fuzzy due to dying. [[spoiler:This is not the case: he really can't read and honestly doesn't know what certain objects do, nor what certain terms/concepts mean, because like Missile, he is not human.]]

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** Sissel can't read or recall what objects do or what certain terms mean while dead, yet every other dead character can - except Missile, who legitimately wouldn't know due to being a dog - can.dog. He figures his memory is fuzzy due to dying. [[spoiler:This is not the case: he really can't read and honestly doesn't know what certain objects do, nor what certain terms/concepts mean, because like Missile, he is not human.]]
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'''Sissel''': What with my loss of memory, [[spoiler:I can't say I'm much better...)]]

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'''Sissel''': What (What with my loss of memory, [[spoiler:I can't say I'm much better...)]]]])
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** There's this bit of narration earlier on: [[spoiler:Too bad I can't just curl up and go to sleep with my tail wagging too...]]
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* In the 2023 UpdatedRerelease, a PreOrderBonus and the DemoBonus includes some fun side backgrounds for the left and right borders each featuring a character from the game. [[spoiler:Missile is an option for the right border like Ray and both cannot be set at the same time, hinting that they're the same person. The same applies to "Sissel" and the black cat left borders, which also hints to their connection.]]
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** The very fact that [[spoiler: the dead can talk to each other, regardless of species]].

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** The very fact that [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the dead can talk to each other, regardless of species]].



** When you first meet Lynne, she mistakes herself for Inspector Cabanela and takes on his appearance. Seems like just a one-off joke that [[EstablishingCharacterMoment establishes]] Lynne as a PluckyGirl, right? [[spoiler: Wrong. It also shows that ghosts ''choose'' their form, and don't have to take the form that they had in life. Sissel made the same mistake, assuming that the spiky-haired blond man nearby was him.]]

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** When you first meet Lynne, she mistakes herself for Inspector Cabanela and takes on his appearance. Seems like just a one-off joke that [[EstablishingCharacterMoment establishes]] Lynne as a PluckyGirl, right? [[spoiler: Wrong.[[spoiler:Wrong. It also shows that ghosts ''choose'' their form, and don't have to take the form that they had in life. Sissel made the same mistake, assuming that the spiky-haired blond man nearby was him.]]



** Cabanela mentions at one point that his coat is white, to show that there are no stains on it (as a symbol of his spotless record to show his determination to become the head of the division). Sissel quips that he'd prefer a black coat, which would be more practical by hiding any stains. [[spoiler: At the end, Sissel ''does'' have a black coat.]]

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** Cabanela mentions at one point that his coat is white, to show that there are no stains on it (as a symbol of his spotless record to show his determination to become the head of the division). Sissel quips that he'd prefer a black coat, which would be more practical by hiding any stains. [[spoiler: At [[spoiler:At the end, Sissel ''does'' have a black coat.]]



** When Sissel is instructed by Lynne to read the blackboard [[spoiler: while inside the special prison]], he reveals that he can't read and has a FreakOut. [[spoiler:Assuming the words on the blackboard were in an understandable language, it should give the valid hint that Sissel isn't human.]]

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** When Sissel is instructed by Lynne to read the blackboard [[spoiler: while [[spoiler:while inside the special prison]], he reveals that he can't read and has a FreakOut. [[spoiler:Assuming the words on the blackboard were in an understandable language, it should give the valid hint that Sissel isn't human.]]



** On a more general note, Sissel's personality is, once you know the twist, [[spoiler:similar to the typical cat in fiction: aloof and unconcerned, but affectionate and friendly once a bond is made]]. Likewise, it's the reason Sissel considers Missile a little off due to [[spoiler: the stereotypical dogs-versus-cats trope]].

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** On a more general note, Sissel's personality is, once you know the twist, [[spoiler:similar to the typical cat in fiction: aloof and unconcerned, but affectionate and friendly once a bond is made]]. Likewise, it's the reason Sissel considers Missile a little off due to [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the stereotypical dogs-versus-cats trope]].



* The security footage [[spoiler:of Lynne shooting Yomiel]] has [[spoiler:Yomiel]] leaning against a pole. After shooting him and being confronted by an assassin, Lynne backs up into the same pole, but moves away from it because it had barbed wire wrapped around it. And given what we later know about [[spoiler:Yomiel]]'s body....
* Early on, while trying to get Kamila under the couch, Sissel said that [[spoiler: it would be easier if he could possess her, but he can't do that. So Yomiel wasn't alone in wishing he had other powers.]]

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* The security footage [[spoiler:of Lynne shooting Yomiel]] has [[spoiler:Yomiel]] leaning against a pole. After shooting him and being confronted by an assassin, Lynne backs up into the same pole, but moves away from it because it had barbed wire wrapped around it. And given what we later know about [[spoiler:Yomiel]]'s body....
* Early on, while trying to get Kamila under the couch, Sissel said that [[spoiler: it [[spoiler:it would be easier if he could possess her, but he can't do that. So Yomiel wasn't alone in wishing he had other powers.]]



* The medical examiner comments on overhearing the two detectives at the same time as Sissel, establishing the minor RunningGag of Sissel and someone alive echoing each other. [[spoiler: Of course, he's not your average bystander.]]
** Also, when examining [[spoiler: Lynne after she's shot]], his 'examining' animation puts his stethoscope in places it has no business being. [[spoiler: This isn't an accident. Cabanela later comments that the examiner's incompetence outs him as a fraud.]]

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* The medical examiner comments on overhearing the two detectives at the same time as Sissel, establishing the minor RunningGag of Sissel and someone alive echoing each other. [[spoiler: Of [[spoiler:Of course, he's not your average bystander.]]
** Also, when examining [[spoiler: Lynne [[spoiler:Lynne after she's shot]], his 'examining' animation puts his stethoscope in places it has no business being. [[spoiler: This [[spoiler:This isn't an accident. Cabanela later comments that the examiner's incompetence outs him as a fraud.]]



* In the very beginning of the game when you possess a guitar instead of an out-of-reach wrecking ball, Ray expresses surprise. "I see... A guitar, then, is it? Ahem." [[spoiler: It turns out Ray is actually Missile, whose ghost powers have a longer range than yours do.]]
* Why do the prisoners get luxuries like music equipment, being able to paint, and a strange mind machine? [[spoiler: Because it's suspected none of them are actually guilty of their crimes, and the police are trying to figure out what the true cause was.]]
** This also explains why [[spoiler: it took so long to carry out Jowd's execution order; nobody really thought he was guilty, either, and they were just buying time until the manipulator revealed himself. Unfortunately, Yomiel and the hostage situation forced their hands (literally, in the case of the Justice Minister).]]

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* In the very beginning of the game when you possess a guitar instead of an out-of-reach wrecking ball, Ray expresses surprise. "I see... A guitar, then, is it? Ahem." [[spoiler: It [[spoiler:It turns out Ray is actually Missile, whose ghost powers have a longer range than yours do.]]
* Why do the prisoners get luxuries like music equipment, being able to paint, and a strange mind machine? [[spoiler: Because [[spoiler:Because it's suspected none of them are actually guilty of their crimes, and the police are trying to figure out what the true cause was.]]
** This also explains why [[spoiler: it [[spoiler:it took so long to carry out Jowd's execution order; nobody really thought he was guilty, either, and they were just buying time until the manipulator revealed himself. Unfortunately, Yomiel and the hostage situation forced their hands (literally, in the case of the Justice Minister).]]



* When [[spoiler: Missile]] gets his Ghost Trick power, the first thing he uses it for is to [[spoiler: save Kamila from the Mino statue. But by doing so, he accidentally drops it on someone else instead.]] What happens later? [[spoiler: Or rather, [[TimeTravelTenseTrouble earlier]], when that same statue is about to crush Lynne? Missile swaps it again, only for it to fall on Yomiel instead (granted, Yomiel got in its way on purpose, but [[BookEnds the symmetry]] is still there).]]

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* When [[spoiler: Missile]] [[spoiler:Missile]] gets his Ghost Trick power, the first thing he uses it for is to [[spoiler: save [[spoiler:save Kamila from the Mino statue. But by doing so, he accidentally drops it on someone else instead.]] What happens later? [[spoiler: Or [[spoiler:Or rather, [[TimeTravelTenseTrouble earlier]], when that same statue is about to crush Lynne? Missile swaps it again, only for it to fall on Yomiel instead (granted, Yomiel got in its way on purpose, but [[BookEnds the symmetry]] is still there).]]
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** Chapter 15 [[StealthBasedMission requires you to avoid getting spotted using the powers of the dead]] by the main antagonist. However, he has [[ConspicuouslySelectivePerception an odd tendency to ignore things that should be suspicious just because he didn't see them directly]], and [[spoiler:if he catches you, he makes it clear that he recognizes you on some level]], both of which make a lot more sense after you learn that [[spoiler:Sissel, as his cat, was his OnlyFriend for quite some time, and the only being he has any real positive connection with]].

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** Chapter 15 [[StealthBasedMission requires you to avoid getting spotted using the powers of the dead]] by the main antagonist. However, he has [[ConspicuouslySelectivePerception an odd tendency to ignore things that should be suspicious just because he didn't see them directly]], and [[spoiler:if he catches you, he makes it clear that he recognizes you on some level]], both of which make a lot more sense after you learn that [[spoiler:Sissel, as his cat, was his OnlyFriend for quite some time, and the only being he has any real positive connection with]].with at this point]].
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** Chapter 15 [[StealthBasedMission requires you to avoid getting spotted using the powers of the dead]] by the main antagonist. However, he has [[ConspiciouslySelectivePerception an odd tendency to ignore things that should be suspicious just because he didn't see them directly]], and [[spoiler:if he catches you, he makes it clear that he recognizes you on some level]], both of which make a lot more sense after you learn that [[spoiler:Sissel, as his cat, was his OnlyFriend for quite some time, and the only being he has any real positive connection with]].

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** Chapter 15 [[StealthBasedMission requires you to avoid getting spotted using the powers of the dead]] by the main antagonist. However, he has [[ConspiciouslySelectivePerception [[ConspicuouslySelectivePerception an odd tendency to ignore things that should be suspicious just because he didn't see them directly]], and [[spoiler:if he catches you, he makes it clear that he recognizes you on some level]], both of which make a lot more sense after you learn that [[spoiler:Sissel, as his cat, was his OnlyFriend for quite some time, and the only being he has any real positive connection with]].
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** Chapter 15 [[StealthBasedMission requires you to avoid getting spotted using the powers of the dead]] by the main antagonist. However, he has [[ConspiciouslySelectivePerception an odd tendency to ignore things that should be suspicious just because he didn't see them directly]], and [[spoiler:if he catches you, he makes it clear that he recognizes you on some level]], both of which make a lot more sense after you learn that [[spoiler:Sissel, as his cat, was his OnlyFriend for quite some time, and the only being he has any real positive connection with]].
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** At one point, to mean "out of danger", Sissel says "out of the water". A strange turn of phrase; shouldn't it be more like "out of the fire"? [[spoiler:Not if you hate getting wet.]]

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** At one point, to mean "out of danger", Sissel says "out of the water". A strange turn of phrase; shouldn't it be more like "out of the fire"? [[spoiler:Not if you [[CatsHateWater hate getting wet.wet]].]]
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* When you alter the [[spoiler:murder machine]] to avert one of Lynne's deaths, it [[spoiler:lights a party popper instead.]] This seems like just a cute little anti-climax. [[spoiler:It turns out this is how the original machine was SUPPOSED to work, which makes for nice symmetry. The first machine was a birthday trick altered into a murder machine by a ghost. The second machine was a murder machine altered into a birthday trick by a different ghost.]]

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* When you alter the [[spoiler:murder machine]] to avert one of Lynne's deaths, it [[spoiler:lights a party popper instead.]] This seems like just a cute little anti-climax. [[spoiler:It turns out this is how the original machine was SUPPOSED to work, which makes for nice symmetry. The first machine was a birthday trick altered into a murder machine by a ghost. The second machine was a murder machine altered into a birthday trick by a different ghost.]]]]
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