History Film / YouveGotMail

17th Sep '16 3:16:30 PM HarryLovesHermione
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* GagEcho: When Kathleen comes back to the bookstore after her failed meet, Christina, then George, then Birdie's first response to the news when they show up minutes apart is "He stood you up?"



* StrangeMindsThinkAlike: After her conversation with Joe in which he suggest to "go to the mattresses" (and explains it's from ''Film/TheGodfather''), Kathleen asks Frank to help her, who agrees even though he's only half-listening. When she tries to get his attention by asking if he knows what the phrase means, without missing a beat or looking up from his paper, he states, "From ''The Godfather''."



** Kathleen herself reacts with amusement rather than outrage when she sees Frank blatantly flirting with the journalist interviewing him on television.

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** Kathleen herself reacts with amusement rather than outrage when she sees Frank blatantly flirting with the journalist interviewing him on television. And when she finally breaks it off, Frank is relieved and they both have a laugh over saying "I'm not in love with you."
17th Sep '16 3:06:34 PM HarryLovesHermione
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* LoveConfession: Right before Kathleen goes to meet her online love, Joe admits his feelings for her and asks how she could forgive a guy she's never met for standing her up but not him for "[[{{Understatement}} this tiny thing]] of putting you out of business."
30th Jun '16 11:31:09 AM JeaniWeiner
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* Hypocrite: Kathleen Kelly expects other people to patronize her small business, but goes to Starbucks for coffee early in the movie.

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* Hypocrite: {{Hypocrite}}: Kathleen Kelly expects other people to patronize her small business, but goes to Starbucks for coffee early in the movie.
30th Jun '16 11:19:38 AM JeaniWeiner
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* Hypocrite: Kathleen Kelly expects other people to patronize her small business, but goes to Starbucks for coffee early in the movie.



* PredatoryBusiness: Subverted. Even if Fox Books undercuts the prices of family bookstores like The Shop Around The Corner, it still serves the community for the better -- when Kelly is walking around the store, she sees groups of adults and children alike scattered around reading books and having fun. Even if the one employee didn't know about the "Shoe" books, there's no indication that they are selling shoddy material or using dirty business practices. As Joe Fox said, "I sell cheap books. Sue me."
** Also subverted, possibly unintentionally, by Kelly waging war on a giant chain that she blames for putting small independent stores out of business but when she wants a coffee she chooses Starbucks.

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* PredatoryBusiness: Subverted. Even if Fox Books undercuts the prices of family bookstores like The Shop Around The Corner, it still serves the community for the better -- when Kelly Kathleen is walking around the store, she sees groups of adults and children alike scattered around reading books and having fun. Even if the one employee didn't know about the "Shoe" books, there's no indication that they are selling shoddy material or using dirty business practices. As Joe Fox said, "I sell cheap books. Sue me."
** Also subverted, possibly unintentionally, by Kelly Kathleen waging war on a giant chain that she blames for putting small independent stores out of business but when she wants a coffee she chooses Starbucks.
30th Jun '16 10:34:17 AM JeaniWeiner
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* HeelRealization: Joe has one after he's trapped in the elevator and spends the rest of the movie striving to make amends for some of the harm he's caused in the hopes Kathleen will forgive him.
24th Apr '16 2:23:45 PM Andrzej
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-->'''Birdie''': "What are you girls talking about?"
-->'''Christina''': "Cybersex."
-->'''Birdie''': "I tried to have cybersex once, but I kept getting a busy signal."

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-->'''Birdie''': "What -->'''Birdie:''' What are you girls talking about?"
-->'''Christina''': "Cybersex."
-->'''Birdie''': "I
about?\\
'''Christina:''' Cybersex.\\
'''Birdie:''' I
tried to have cybersex once, but I kept getting a busy signal."



-->'''Kathleen''': "He couldn't possibly be the Rooftop Killer!"
-->'''Christina''': "Remember when you thought Frank might be the Unabomber?"
-->'''Kathleen''': "Well, that was different."

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-->'''Kathleen''': "He -->'''Kathleen:''' He couldn't possibly be the Rooftop Killer!"
-->'''Christina''': "Remember
Killer!\\
'''Christina:''' Remember
when you thought Frank might be the Unabomber?"
-->'''Kathleen''': "Well,
Unabomber?\\
'''Kathleen:''' Well,
that was different."



--> '''Joe''': It wasn't personal.
--> '''Kathleen''': What is that supposed to mean?! I am so sick of that. All it means is that it wasn't personal to you. But it was personal to me. It's personal to a lot of people. And what's so wrong with being personal anyway?
--> '''Joe''': Uh, nothing.
--> '''Kathleen''': Whatever else anything is, it ought to begin by being personal.

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--> '''Joe''': -->'''Joe:''' It wasn't personal.
--> '''Kathleen''':
personal.\\
'''Kathleen:'''
What is that supposed to mean?! I am so sick of that. All it means is that it wasn't personal to you. But it was personal to me. It's personal to a lot of people. And what's so wrong with being personal anyway?
--> '''Joe''':
anyway?\\
'''Joe:'''
Uh, nothing.
--> '''Kathleen''':
nothing.\\
'''Kathleen:'''
Whatever else anything is, it ought to begin by being personal.



-->'''Creator/RogerEbert''': The movie is sophisticated enough not to make the mega-store into the villain. Say what you will, those giant stores are fun to spend time in.

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-->'''Creator/RogerEbert''': -->'''Creator/RogerEbert:''' The movie is sophisticated enough not to make the mega-store into the villain. Say what you will, those giant stores are fun to spend time in.
12th Mar '16 7:00:35 PM MyFinalEdits
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* SympatheticAdulterer[=/=]YourCheatingHeart: Joe and Kathleen are essentially carrying on an emotional online affair behind their respective partners' backs (the fact that each takes great pains to hide it implies that they know it's wrong on some level, so it just avoids ProtagonistCenteredMorality), but this is treated as excusable since they're clearly unhappy in their respective relationships. Their paramours might be completely wrong for them, but they certainly don't seem to be bad people deserving of such treatment.

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* SympatheticAdulterer[=/=]YourCheatingHeart: SympatheticAdulterer:
**
Joe and Kathleen are essentially carrying on an emotional online affair behind their respective partners' backs (the fact that each takes great pains to hide it implies that they know it's wrong on some level, so it just avoids ProtagonistCenteredMorality), but this is treated as excusable since they're clearly unhappy in their respective relationships. Their paramours might be completely wrong for them, but they certainly don't seem to be bad people deserving of such treatment.
12th Mar '16 9:43:46 AM Menshevik
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* ProtagonistCenteredMorality[=/=]SympatheticAdulterer[=/=]YourCheatingHeart: Joe and Kathleen are essentially carrying on an emotional online affair behind their respective partners' backs (the fact that each takes great pains to hide it implies that they know it's wrong on some level), but this is treated as if it's perfectly fine and normal, especially since they're clearly unhappy in their respective relationships. Their paramours might be completely wrong for them, but they certainly don't seem to be bad people deserving of such treatment.


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* SympatheticAdulterer[=/=]YourCheatingHeart: Joe and Kathleen are essentially carrying on an emotional online affair behind their respective partners' backs (the fact that each takes great pains to hide it implies that they know it's wrong on some level, so it just avoids ProtagonistCenteredMorality), but this is treated as excusable since they're clearly unhappy in their respective relationships. Their paramours might be completely wrong for them, but they certainly don't seem to be bad people deserving of such treatment.
** Kathleen herself reacts with amusement rather than outrage when she sees Frank blatantly flirting with the journalist interviewing him on television.
12th Mar '16 9:27:08 AM Menshevik
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* LongLastLook: After selling off the stock and emptying her shop, Kathleen returns for one last look of the empty rooms and bookshelfs. For a moment she sees herself as a child, "twirling" with her mother. Then she picks up the doorbell, locks up and leaves.



* LuddWasRight: Frank is the Upper West Side version. Technical progress is okay up to a certain point -- specifically the invention of the electric typewriter -- but what goes beyond that is the work of the devil.



* PairTheSpares

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* PairTheSpares PairTheSpares: Averted. Frank and Patricia get on with their lives, but they do not become a couple, and only Frank is confirmed to be dating someone else after the breakup with Kathleen. There's also not a trace of romance between George and Christina (Kathleen's younger employees).


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* PosthumousCharacter: Kathleen's mother, the original owner of the Shop Around the Corner who touched a lot of people's lives, including (fleetingly) that of Joe's grandfather. She was ... enchanting.
5th Mar '16 1:00:39 AM Menshevik
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* NothingPersonal: Kathleen emphatically rejects the trope after Fox Books ran her store into the ground:
--> '''Joe''': It wasn't personal.
--> '''Kathleen''': What is that supposed to mean?! I am so sick of that. All it means is that it wasn't personal to you. But it was personal to me. It's personal to a lot of people. And what's so wrong with being personal anyway?
--> '''Joe''': Uh, nothing.
--> '''Kathleen''': Whatever else anything is, it ought to begin by being personal.
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