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** There's no indication Dick or Lynne encouraged Liz to make a public stand against same-sex marriage which served to alienate her from Mary. Instead, they attempted to reconcile them (Liz later recanted her views on the issue after her very public spat with Mary in 2021, calling it one of the greatest mistakes she'd ever made).
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** There's no indication Dick or Lynne encouraged Liz to make a public stand against same-sex marriage marriage, which served to alienate her from Mary. Instead, they attempted to reconcile them them. (Liz later recanted her views on the issue after her very public spat with Mary in 2021, calling it one of the greatest mistakes she'd ever made).
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** Cheney meeting Scalia in the 70s to learn of unitary executive theory through him is fictional. It wasn't called by that name until the late 80s either. Additional, it has never held that the US President has absolute power, but only ultimate control over the executive branch.
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** Cheney meeting Scalia in the 70s to learn of unitary executive theory through him is fictional. It wasn't called by that name until the late 80s either. Additional, Additionally, it has never held that the US President has absolute power, but only ultimate control over the executive branch.
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* BehindEveryGreatMan: Lynne is shown to be a major guiding force in Dick's life, getting him into Yale, bluntly getting him sober, getting him elected to congress, and calculating the ramifications of Mary coming out of the closet (while Dick's primary concern is reassuring Mary that he loves her).
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* BehindEveryGreatMan: Lynne is shown to be a major guiding force in Dick's life, getting him into Yale, bluntly getting him sober, getting him elected to congress, Congress, and calculating the ramifications of Mary coming out of the closet (while Dick's primary concern is reassuring Mary that he loves her).
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* EhTuBrute?: When Rumsfeld is informed he is being fired from his job as apart of yet another one of Cheyney’s political stunts, he angrily calls him out initially before regaining his remaining composure by sadly asking just when Dick became so cold-hearted towards even his closest friends. When Cheyney apologizes to him while claiming to be truly remorseful, Rumsfeld reassures him by saying they both know that isn’t true. Cheyney: “I’m sorry, Don. I really am.” Rumsfeld: “Well you know how I know you’re not? Because I wouldn’t be.”
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** Rumsfeld teaches Cheney the value of ruthlessness and the importance of power, molding him into TheChessmaster who is not afraid to dirty his hands. This backfires on Rummy when Cheney later forces him out of the cabinet and makes him a scapegoat for the rise of ISIS.
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** Rumsfeld teaches Cheney the value of ruthlessness and the importance of power, molding him into TheChessmaster who is not afraid to dirty his hands. This backfires on Rummy when Cheney later forces him out of the cabinet and makes him a scapegoat for the rise of ISIS. That being said..
* GracefulLoser: Rumsfeld, upon being told that he’s being fired to be the next fall guy in Cheyney’s ongoing plot in Iraq, angrily calls him out for throwing him under the bus. Considering it was Rumsfeld himself who taught Cheyney how to backstab so effectively, it is rather fitting. While not outwardly stated, Rumsfeld has a look of betrayal, sadness, and surprising admiration as he accepts that Cheyney managed to out maneuver even his own mentor. They both then shift back into their professional demeanors to give a half-hearted goodbye.
* GracefulLoser: Rumsfeld, upon being told that he’s being fired to be the next fall guy in Cheyney’s ongoing plot in Iraq, angrily calls him out for throwing him under the bus. Considering it was Rumsfeld himself who taught Cheyney how to backstab so effectively, it is rather fitting. While not outwardly stated, Rumsfeld has a look of betrayal, sadness, and surprising admiration as he accepts that Cheyney managed to out maneuver even his own mentor. They both then shift back into their professional demeanors to give a half-hearted goodbye.
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* LoopholeAbuse: Dick reasons that the Vice President is both part of the Executive and Legislative Branches of Government. He also reasons that because of that, it’s not part of those Branches either, and thus has oversight of both Branches, but no oversight from anywhere else. He justifies this to basically be part of everything and be the one pulling the strings everywhere.
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** The film implies that Cheney played a significant role in the veto of Congress's attempt to re-instate the Fairness Doctrine, a law from 1949 that forced broadcast radio and TV outlets to present both sides of an issue equally, and it eventually led to the rise of opinion news networks like Creator/FoxNews. In reality, there's no record of Cheney convincing the House to abstain from interfering with the veto, especially given that Cheney wasn't the GOP Whip until 1989. Additionally, the Fairness Doctrine only applied to broadcast television stations and had no authority over cable stations, so Fox News wouldn't have to abide by the doctrine even if it were still a law today.
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** The film implies that Cheney played a significant role in the veto of Congress's attempt to re-instate the Fairness Doctrine, a law from 1949 that forced broadcast radio and TV outlets to present both sides of an issue equally, and it eventually led to the rise of opinion news networks like Creator/FoxNews.Fox News. In reality, there's no record of Cheney convincing the House to abstain from interfering with the veto, especially given that Cheney wasn't the GOP Whip until 1989. Additionally, the Fairness Doctrine only applied to broadcast television stations and had no authority over cable stations, so Fox News wouldn't have to abide by the doctrine even if it were still a law today.
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->''The following is a true story.''
->''Or as true as it can be given that Dick Cheney is one of the most secretive leaders in history.''
->''But we did our fucking best.''
->''Or as true as it can be given that Dick Cheney is one of the most secretive leaders in history.''
->''But we did our fucking best.''
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The film acknowledges in the beginning and several other times that it has little to go on for information on certain areas of Cheney's life, due to his secrecy, but that, "We tried our fucking best." [[note]]Though [[https://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/vice/ one review]] wryly quipped "It's the first time I can recall a film blaming its subject for not being able to get the facts of its story correct."[[/note]]
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The film acknowledges in the beginning and several other times that it has little to go on for information on certain areas of Cheney's life, due to his secrecy, but that, "We tried our fucking best." [[note]]Though [[https://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/vice/ one review]] wryly quipped "It's the first time I can recall a film blaming its subject for not being able to get the facts of its story correct."[[/note]]
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The film acknowledges in the beginning and several other times that it has little to go on for information on certain areas of Cheney's life, due to his secrecy, but that, "We tried our fucking best."
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The film acknowledges in the beginning and several other times that it has little to go on for information on certain areas of Cheney's life, due to his secrecy, but that, "We tried our fucking best." [[note]]Though [[https://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/vice/ one review]] wryly quipped "It's the first time I can recall a film blaming its subject for not being able to get the facts of its story correct."[[/note]]
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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: At the end of the movie, Dick is portrayed as [[spoiler:approving of Liz taking a stand against gay marriage despite Mary being openly lesbian]]. There is no evidence that he did any such thing in real life.
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** Insofar as it takes a controversial figure and interprets his actions in a cynical light wherever possible, and portraying George Bush as an ineffectual puppet of a machiavellian schemer, the movie is more a biopic of the Cheney of pop culture than the real person. It simplifies the complex power dynamics involved in Washington, invents dialogue that portrays characters in a malicious light, and takes conspiracy theories about the man (such as his alleged war profiteering through Halliburton or being indifferent to accidentally shooting his friend) as fact, despite lack of evidence or disputes by serious political scholars.
** At the end of the movie, Dick is portrayed as [[spoiler:approving of Liz taking a stand against gay marriage despite Mary being openly lesbian]]. There is no evidence that he did any such thing in reallife.life.
** Lynne Cheney's father is implied to have murdered her mother- there is no evidence for this happening whatsoever.
** Insofar as it takes a controversial figure and interprets his actions in a cynical light wherever possible, and portraying George Bush as an ineffectual puppet of a machiavellian schemer, the movie is more a biopic of the Cheney of pop culture than the real person. It simplifies the complex power dynamics involved in Washington, invents dialogue that portrays characters in a malicious light, and takes conspiracy theories about the man (such as his alleged war profiteering through Halliburton or being indifferent to accidentally shooting his friend) as fact, despite lack of evidence or disputes by serious political scholars.
** At the end of the movie, Dick is portrayed as [[spoiler:approving of Liz taking a stand against gay marriage despite Mary being openly lesbian]]. There is no evidence that he did any such thing in real
** Lynne Cheney's father is implied to have murdered her mother- there is no evidence for this happening whatsoever.
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* PlayingGertrude: Christian Bale and Amy Adams are only 8 years older than Lily Rabe (Liz Chaney) and 11 than Alison Pill (Mary).
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* NotSoSimilar: When he hits a particularly low point with his alcoholism, Lynne berates him, comparing him to her own father's alcoholism and abuse of his wife and kids. This inspires Cheney to sober up and later confront his father-in-law over it. Ultimately, the film depicts Cheney as a far better husband to Lynne than her father was to her mother, but while her father's abuse was limited to his family, the film shows that Cheney is a far worse man whose actions harm countless lives all over the world.
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* IronicEchoCut: Lynne is shown giving a speech at campaign rally where she blasts "liberal elites" for being out of touch with most other Americans. The scene then cuts to the Cheneys and some other Republican politicians sitting in a fancy restaurant celebrating Dick's election victory, with the camera focusing on Lynne [[WineIsClassy drinking wine.]]
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** Lynne is shown giving a speech at campaign rally where she blasts "liberal elites" for being out of touch with most other Americans. The scene then cuts to the Cheneys and some other Republican politicians sitting in a fancy restaurant celebrating Dick's election victory, with the camera focusing on Lynne [[WineIsClassy drinking wine.]]]]
** When George Bush gives a speech that marks the beginning of the [[UsefulNotes/WarOnTerror Iraq War]], the camera pans down below his desk to show him shaking his leg nervously. The scene cuts to a family of Iraqis hiding under a table, the father's leg nervously trembling.
** Lynne is shown giving a speech at campaign rally where she blasts "liberal elites" for being out of touch with most other Americans. The scene then cuts to the Cheneys and some other Republican politicians sitting in a fancy restaurant celebrating Dick's election victory, with the camera focusing on Lynne [[WineIsClassy drinking wine.
** When George Bush gives a speech that marks the beginning of the [[UsefulNotes/WarOnTerror Iraq War]], the camera pans down below his desk to show him shaking his leg nervously. The scene cuts to a family of Iraqis hiding under a table, the father's leg nervously trembling.
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** There's no indication Dick or Lynne encouraged Liz to make a public stand against same-sex marriage which served to alienate her from Mary. Instead, they attempted to reconcile them (Liz later recanted her views on the issue after her very public spat with Mary in 2021).
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** Donald Rumsfeld never flew jet aircraft while serving in the Navy, only propeller aircraft.
** Cheney's introduction to Rumsfeld, rather than being random, was done by Representative William A. Steiger since Rumsfeld required more staff members. He had also already been a Republican and conservative prior to his internship, while the film indicates Cheney was undecided at this point starting out.
** Cheney meeting Scalia in the 70s to learn of unitary executive theory through him is fictional. It wasn't called by that name until the late 80s either. Additional, it has never held that the US President has absolute power, but only ultimate control over the executive branch.
** There is no evidence that Lynne Cheney's father might have murdered her mother. The investigation found she was out walking her dogs near the pond and apparently slipped before falling in, drowning as she'd never learned to swim. Lynne Cheney agreed this was what happened, and said her father had been so devastated he'd died of alcohol abuse within a couple years of her death.
** Cheney's introduction to Rumsfeld, rather than being random, was done by Representative William A. Steiger since Rumsfeld required more staff members. He had also already been a Republican and conservative prior to his internship, while the film indicates Cheney was undecided at this point starting out.
** Cheney meeting Scalia in the 70s to learn of unitary executive theory through him is fictional. It wasn't called by that name until the late 80s either. Additional, it has never held that the US President has absolute power, but only ultimate control over the executive branch.
** There is no evidence that Lynne Cheney's father might have murdered her mother. The investigation found she was out walking her dogs near the pond and apparently slipped before falling in, drowning as she'd never learned to swim. Lynne Cheney agreed this was what happened, and said her father had been so devastated he'd died of alcohol abuse within a couple years of her death.
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* OnlySaneMan: Colin Powell is the only one in the administration who is skeptical of invading Iraq, seeing the evidence as not reliable and the potential consequences being disastrous.
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* OnlySaneMan: Colin Powell is the only one in the administration who is skeptical of invading Iraq, seeing the evidence as not reliable and the potential consequences being disastrous. It probably helped that he was the only one with military experience, as a former general, so he knew more than them just how bad this could go wrong.
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* TautologicalTemplar: Circular logic of "If The President/The United States does something evil/illegal, it's not evil/illegal because The President/The United States is not evil/illegal". Used several times by Dick Cheney and his allies, usually in the tune
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* TautologicalTemplar: Circular logic of "If The President/The United States does something evil/illegal, it's not evil/illegal because The President/The United States is not evil/illegal". Used several times by Dick Cheney and his allies, usually in the tune tune.
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** Lynn is introduced having an argument with her husband after he's been arrested [[TheAlcoholic again]] for drunk driving. She threatens to leave him if he doesn't become more ambitious.
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** Lynn Lynne is introduced having an argument with her husband after he's been arrested [[TheAlcoholic again]] for drunk driving. She threatens to leave him if he doesn't become more ambitious.
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* BenevolentBoss: Despite his rather brash demeanor and amoral character Donald Rumsfeld is this to Cheney. He's initially depicted as a {{jerkass}} who prefers that his employees stay quiet, do as they're told, and show him loyalty. When Cheney asks Rumsfeld what his principles are, Rumsfeld howls with laughter and slams a door in his face. However, he also clearly appreciates Cheney's talents, [[TheMentor teaches him how to navigate Washington]], and takes the time to get to know Lynne.
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* BenevolentBoss: Despite his rather brash demeanor and amoral character Donald Rumsfeld UsefulNotes/DonaldRumsfeld is this to Cheney. He's initially depicted as a {{jerkass}} who prefers that his employees stay quiet, do as they're told, and show him loyalty. When Cheney asks Rumsfeld what his principles are, Rumsfeld howls with laughter and slams a door in his face. However, he also clearly appreciates Cheney's talents, [[TheMentor teaches him how to navigate Washington]], and takes the time to get to know Lynne.
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* TheEveryman: Kurt the narrator is a normal, relatable guy who audiences can easily identify with, and is completely uninvolved in the political scheming and corruption going on. [[spoiler:This makes his sudden death all the more tragic.]]
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* WhereAreTheyNowEpilogue: Parodied mid-way through the film. After Cheney rejects the presidential bid to protect his lesbian daughter Mary, a fake-out epilogue is shown where Cheney never got into politics again and lived a happy life with his family. The credits even roll. Later played straight at the end.
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* CannotTellAJoke: During a family lunch, Cheney tries to tell his granddaughter a dad joke, but stumbles through the delivery in a way that sucks all the humor out of the punchline.
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* TheFriendNobodyLikes: Rumsfeld is a canny political force, making him useful to the Nixon Administration. However, his abrasive personality eventually annoys enough people that he's pushed out of Republican politics and he seeks other opportunities in the private sector.
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* BehindEveryGreatMan: Lynne is shown to be a major guiding force in Dick's life, getting him into Yale, bluntly getting him sober, getting him elected to congress, and calculating the ramifications of Mary coming out of the closet (while Dick's primary concern is reassuring Mary that he loves her).
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''Vice'' is a 2018 {{Biopic}} about the 46th Vice President of the United States, Dick Cheney. Written and directed by Adam [=McKay=], the film stars Creator/ChristianBale, Creator/AmyAdams, Creator/SteveCarell and Creator/SamRockwell, with narration by Creator/JessePlemons.
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''Vice'' is a 2018 {{Biopic}} about the 46th Vice President of the United States, Dick Cheney. UsefulNotes/DickCheney. Written and directed by Adam [=McKay=], Creator/AdamMcKay, the film stars Creator/ChristianBale, Creator/AmyAdams, Creator/SteveCarell and Creator/SamRockwell, with narration by Creator/JessePlemons.
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* VillainProtagonist: The film shows Dick Cheney as a absolutely ruthless, cruel man responsible for untold death and suffering.
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* VillainousFriendship: Rumsfeld takes a liking to Cheney when he's just an intern and Cheney is moved by Rumsfeld's charisma. They become good friends and mutual schemers during the various administrations; Cheney even landing Rumsfeld a position in Bush's government. [[spoiler:Rumsfeld is one of the last betrayals in the movie as Cheney makes him resign after the Iraq war. Cheney tells him that he's sorry, but Rumsfeld says that's a lie because "I wouldn't be."]]
* VillainProtagonist: The film shows Dick Cheney asa an absolutely ruthless, cruel man responsible for untold death and suffering.
* VillainProtagonist: The film shows Dick Cheney as
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* HardTruthAesop: TheStinger gives the notion that being part of the LowestCommonDenominator puts you in the same league as the people who take their politics way too seriously.
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This part at least was intended to be an introduction to the film's take on artistic license, not a example of it in and of itself. The pseudo-Shakespeare part could be considered an example, since it obviously didn't happen, so it can go in a bullet, but we need to remove the end. It was originally a segue into the examples, but now it's in one.
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** The film acknowledges in the beginning and several other times that it has little to go on for information on certain areas of Cheney's life, due to his secrecy, but that, "We tried our fucking best." Dick and Lynne lapse into faux-[[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Shakespearean]] iambic pentameter after the narrator admits that they have no idea what the couple said to each other before Dick accepted the vice-presidential candidacy. Still, there are some [[http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/vice/ factual inaccuracies the film doesn't acknowledge]]:
** The film acknowledges in the beginning and several other times that it has little to go on for information on certain areas of Cheney's life, due to his secrecy, but that, "We tried our fucking best." Dick and Lynne lapse into faux-[[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Shakespearean]] iambic pentameter after the narrator admits that they have no idea what the couple said to each other before Dick accepted the vice-presidential candidacy. Still, there are some [[http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/vice/ factual inaccuracies the film doesn't acknowledge]]:
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**ArtisticLicenseHistory: The film acknowledges in the beginning and several other times that it has little to go on for information on certain areas of Cheney's life, due to his secrecy, but that, "We tried our fucking best." "
** To lampshade the trope, Dick and Lynne lapse into faux-[[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Shakespearean]] iambic pentameter after the narrator admits that they have no idea what the couple said to each other before Dick accepted the vice-presidential candidacy.Still, there are some [[http://www.historyvshollywood.com/reelfaces/vice/ factual inaccuracies the film doesn't acknowledge]]:
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** To lampshade the trope, Dick and Lynne lapse into faux-[[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Shakespearean]] iambic pentameter after the narrator admits that they have no idea what the couple said to each other before Dick accepted the vice-presidential candidacy.
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* ForWantOfANail: When Cheney arrives in Washington D.C. as a young intern, he doesn't have any strong political opinions whatsoever and chooses to intern for the Republican Party on a whim.
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* ForWantOfANail: When Cheney arrives in Washington D.C. as a young intern, he doesn't have any strong political opinions whatsoever and chooses to intern become a staffer for the Republican Party on a whim.
