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* IneffectualSympatheticVillain: As "sympathetic" as a Nazi can be; Liebken worships Hitler and attempts to produce a propaganda piece aggrandizing him, but is completely incompetent and [[spoiler: until the climax]] harmless in the present day. He's also hilarious as a character.
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* PetTheDog: Liebken is affectionate toward his [[HomelessPigeonPerson pigeons]], despite worshipping probably the most evil dictator of the 20th century.
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"Stop the world—I want to get on!"
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** Leo shouts [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_the_World_%E2%80%93_I_Want_to_Get_Off "Stop the world--I want to get on!"]]
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* DelayedOhCrap: Franz after noting "And zis IS ze quick fuse." -- ZE QUICK FUSE!?
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* DelayedOhCrap: Franz after noting "And zis IS ze quick fuse." -- ZE QUICK FUSE!?FUSE?!
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-->'''Franz:''' Ha ha ha, ja ja, you see zis? You see zis here vat I have told you? Yeah, zis is an example of smartness here. I have said that zis is ze quick fuse. Huh? And zis IS ze quick fuse! ...[[DelayedOhCrap ZE QUICK FUSE!?]]
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-->'''Franz:''' Ha ha ha, ja ja, you see zis? You see zis here vat I have told you? Yeah, zis is an example of smartness here. I have said that zis is ze quick fuse. Huh? And zis IS ze quick fuse! ...[[DelayedOhCrap ZE QUICK FUSE!?]]FUSE?!]]
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* BrickJoke: "Go to work." ''(Ulla plays go-go music, and dances.)''
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* BrickJoke: BrickJoke:
** "Go to work." ''(Ulla plays go-go music, and dances.)'')''
** Also Bialystock's referring to actors in general and then his cast of convicts as "animals."
** "Go to work." ''(Ulla plays go-go music, and dances.
** Also Bialystock's referring to actors in general and then his cast of convicts as "animals."
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--> '''Max:''' They are, huh? You ever ''eat'' with one?
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--> '''Max:''' [[SelfDeprecation They are, huh? huh?]] You ever ''eat'' with one?
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* AsLongAsItSoundsForeign: The "Good Luck" song, where Max yells "guten lachen" in his string of good luck yells. [[BilingualBonus Guten lachen roughly translates to "good laughs."]]
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* AsLongAsItSoundsForeign: AsLongAsItSoundsForeign:
** The "Good Luck" song, where Max yells "guten lachen" in his string of good luck yells. [[BilingualBonus Guten lachen roughly translates to "good laughs."]]
** The "Good Luck" song, where Max yells "guten lachen" in his string of good luck yells. [[BilingualBonus Guten lachen roughly translates to "good laughs."]]
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* ObfuscatingStupidity: Considering how much Roger reveals himself to know throughout the movie, his various odd statements when they first meet seem far more like a test to see how Max and Leo will respond.
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* ObfuscatingStupidity: Considering how much Roger reveals himself to know throughout the movie, his various odd statements when they first meet seem far more like a test to see how Max and Leo will respond.respond, something gay men in power [[TruthInTelevision did in real life during the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s]] as a way to see who they could trust and who they could not during the violent homophobia of the time (and despite their conniving, Max and Leo are never cruel or threatening to Roger or his entourage).
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* ObfuscatingStupidity: Considering how much Roger reveals himself to know throughout the movie, his various odd statements when they first meet seem far more like a test to see how Max and Leo respond to such a ridiculous statement.
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* ObfuscatingStupidity: Considering how much Roger reveals himself to know throughout the movie, his various odd statements when they first meet seem far more like a test to see how Max and Leo respond to such a ridiculous statement.will respond.
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* NerdsAreNaive: The biggest difference between the Musical's version of Leo and the original Film's version of Leo is that the musical Leo is more naive and in some ways fascinated by all the strange things around him even as they frighten him, often staring while Max is looking away as in the entire first meeting with Roger and Carmen. Matthew Broderick exploits his capacity for childlike wide open eyes to the maximum in this role.
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** Roger and Carmen stare in wide-eyed facepalm at Scott when he shows up during the "Keep it Gay" number with an enormous . . . ah, personality.
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* ObfuscatingStupidity: Considering how much World War II history Roger reveals himself to know throughout the movie, his claim that he never knew the Third Reich was in Germany seems far more like a test to see how Max and Leo respond to such a ridiculous statement.
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* TruthInTelevision: Because homophobia was so virulent in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, it was not uncommon for powerful gay men to "camp it up" and/or [[ObfuscatingStupidity "play dumb"]] around powerful straight men who wanted to work with them as a way to test who would be safe for them to work with and who would end becoming a potentially lethal problem for them. In this case, Max and Leo pass the test in proving that despite their obvious discomfort they will treat Roger and Carmen with respect (for the most part) and never prove to be a danger to them.
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* TruthInTelevision: Because homophobia was so virulent in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, it was not uncommon for powerful gay men to "camp it up" and/or [[ObfuscatingStupidity "play dumb"]] around powerful straight men who wanted to work with them as a way to test who would be safe for them to work with and who would end up becoming a potentially lethal problem for them. In this case, Max and Leo pass the test in proving that despite their obvious discomfort they will treat Roger and Carmen with respect (for the most part) and never prove to be a danger to them.
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* ObfuscatingStupidity: Considering how much Roger reveals himself to know throughout the movie, his various odd statements when they first meet seem far more like a test to see how Max and Leo respond to such a ridiculous statement.
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* TruthInTelevision: Because homophobia was so virulent in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, it was not uncommon for powerful gay men to "camp it up" and/or [[ObfuscatingStupidity "play dumb"]] around powerful straight men who wanted to work with them as a way to test who would be safe for them to work with and who would end up becoming a potentially lethal problem for them. In this case, Max and Leo pass the test in proving that despite their obvious discomfort they will treat Roger and Carmen with respect (for the most part) and never prove to be a danger to them.
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* TruthInTelevision: Because homophobia was so virulent in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, it was not uncommon for powerful gay men to "camp it up" and/or [[ObfuscatingStupidity "play dumb"]] around powerful straight men who wanted to work with them as a way to test who would be safe for them to work with and who would end becoming a potentially lethal problem for them. In this case, Max and Leo pass the test in proving that despite their obvious discomfort they will treat Roger and Carmen with respect (for the most part) and never prove to be a danger to them.
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* LoadsAndLoadsOfRoles: Most productions of the musical call for a sparse cast for a cast of twenty, with each member of the ensemble playing at least four swing roles. This carried over to the 2005 movies, where Jim Borstelmann plays Scott the choreographer, Donald Dinsmore ("The Little Wooden Boy"), one of the little old ladies and a Bavarian peasant during the Springtime for Hitler number.
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** [=DeBris=]' name [[BrickJoke is also Elizabeth]], but he doesn't seem too embarrassed by it. It's more there so Max and Leo can do a double take.
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** [=DeBris=]' name [[BrickJoke is also Elizabeth]], but he doesn't seem too embarrassed by it. It's more there so Max and Leo can do a double take.quick AsideGlance.
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* FlippingTheBird: When Franz makes Leo and Max raise their pointer fingers to take the Siegfried Oath, they quickly switch to middle fingers behind his back.
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->''"The cast is great, the script is swell, but this we're tellin' you, sirs\\
It's just no go, you've got no show without The Producers!"''
It's just no go, you've got no show without The Producers!"''
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It's just no go, you've got no show without The Producers!"''
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* HereWeGoAgain: At the end of the movie, Leo and Max have been thrown in prison for fraud. Max is producing a new musical entitled "Prisoners of Love" with a cast selected entirely from the inmates...and Leo has already sold at least 150% of the proceeds to the prisoners and guards -- ''and the prison warden''.
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* HereWeGoAgain: At the end of the movie, Leo and Max have been thrown in prison for fraud. Max is producing a new musical entitled "Prisoners of Love" [[PrisonerPerformance with a cast selected entirely from the inmates...inmates]]...and Leo has already sold at least 150% of the proceeds to the prisoners and guards -- ''and the prison warden''.
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* PrisonerPerformance: Leo and Max get sent to prison at the end, where they put together a new musical play with their fellow inmates as performers called ''Prisoners of Love''.
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* PrisonerPerformance: At the end of the film, Leo, Max, and Franz get sent to prison. While there, they write a new musical play, ''Prisoners of Love'', which is even worse than the one they ''tried'' to make bad. [[HereWeGoAgain Leo tries to pull off the same scam overselling shares of the play to everybody in the prison]].
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* DitzySecretary: Ulla can't type, knows little English, and spends most of her time dancing. Max clearly hired her exclusively for her looks (and is also implied to be sleeping with her).
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* DitzySecretary: Ulla can't type, knows little English, and spends most of her time dancing. Max clearly [[HiredForTheirLooks hired her exclusively for her looks looks]] (and is also implied to be sleeping with her).
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'''Carmen''': Oh, Roger, what alliteration!
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'''Carmen''': Oh, Roger, [[LampshadeHanging what alliteration!alliteration]]!
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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: There's an entire song number where everyone tells Bloom that wishing them "good luck" is actually bad luck, so while they sing it to him, Bialystock wishes all of the actors good luck, even putting a ladder over the back entrance and smashes a prop mirror, hoping that it would further jinx the play. Since his was intentionally trying to make a flop, [[SpringtimeForHitler the fact that it ends up becoming a smash hit]] can still be considered rotten luck.
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* DenserAndWackier: While the original was pretty wacky when it wanted to be, it was fairly tame compared to what Mel Brooks would later direct. The 2005 version takes more of the larger-than-life aspects of the stage-musical; bombastic musical numbers, colorfully surreal set design, SurrealHumor, exaggerated characters and Creator/NathanLane and Creator/MatthewBroderick ham it up harder than Creator/ZeroMostel and Creator/GeneSiskel ever did.
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* DenserAndWackier: While the original was pretty wacky when it wanted to be, it was fairly tame compared to what Mel Brooks would later direct. The 2005 version takes more of the larger-than-life aspects of the stage-musical; bombastic musical numbers, colorfully surreal set design, SurrealHumor, exaggerated characters and Creator/NathanLane and Creator/MatthewBroderick ham it up harder than Creator/ZeroMostel and Creator/GeneSiskel Creator/GeneWilder ever did.
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* DenserAndWackier: While the original was pretty wacky when it wanted to be, it was fairly tame compared to what Mel Brooks would later direct. The 2005 version takes more of the larger-than-life aspects of the stage-musical; bombastic musical numbers, colorfully surreal set design, SurrealHumor, exaggerated characters and Creator/NathanLane and Creator/MatthewBroderick ham it up harder than Creator/ZeroMostel and Creator/GeneSiskel ever did.
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* OverlyLongGag: Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss...''sss?!''
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* OverlyLongGag: Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss...''sss?!''"Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss...''sss?!''"
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* KansasCityShuffle: Max and Leo's scheme hinges on this. They plan to make their money by overselling shares to their investors (i.e. borrowing much more money than they actually need to make the play). They intentionally try to produce a bomb in the hopes that their investors won't expect a return on their investment, assuming that all of their money was lost when the play flopped--not realizing that Max and Leo already made a tidy profit before the play even premiered. As a bonus: they bank on the assumption that the IRS won't think to investigate a play that didn't make any money, assuming that it doesn't have any profits to tax.
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* SubparSupremacist: Franz Liebkind is a devoted Nazi. But rather than living up to the Nazi ideal, he's a homeless nutcase who befriends pigeons and is a lousy playwright whose work can only be taken seriously if it is marketed as silly satire. He retracts his beliefs when he's seen in public.
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* SubparSupremacist: Franz Liebkind is a devoted Nazi. But rather than living up to the Nazi ideal, he's a homeless nutcase who befriends pigeons and is a lousy playwright whose work can only be taken seriously if it is marketed as silly satire. He retracts his beliefs when he's seen in public.Even Bloom and Bialystock hate being around him.
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* SubparSupremacist: Franz Liebkind is a devoted Nazi. But rather than living up to the Nazi ideal, he's a homeless nutcase who befriends pigeons and is a lousy playwright whose work can only be taken seriously if it is marketed as silly satire. He retracts his beliefs when he's seen in public.
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* VillainProtagonist: Max and Leo may be funny, but they're both trying to defraud little old ladies.
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* VillainProtagonist: Max and Leo may be funny, but they're both trying to defraud little old ladies.ladies and blow up the theater to coverup their misdeeds.
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* {{Camp}}: The production of "Springtime For Hitler" is over-the-top flamboyant, featuring ChorusGirls and tap dancers in Nazi uniforms, models in skimpy outfits inspired by German pretzels and beer, and pyrotechnics being shot from World War II tanks.
* CampGay: De Bris, and his assistant Carman Ghia. Picked by Bialystock as "the wrong director" that will utterly ruin the production.
* CampGay: De Bris, and his assistant Carman Ghia. Picked by Bialystock as "the wrong director" that will utterly ruin the production.
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* {{Camp}}: The production of "Springtime For Hitler" is over-the-top flamboyant, featuring ChorusGirls and tap dancers in Nazi uniforms, models in skimpy outfits inspired by German pretzels and beer, and pyrotechnics being shot from World War II tanks.
tanks. This is, unfortunately for the protagonists, exactly what makes it so popular.
* CampGay: De Bris, and his assistant Carman Ghia. Picked by Bialystock as "the wrong director" that will utterly ruin the production. Unfortunately for them, he was the ''perfect'' director to turn the whole thing into a hit political satire.
* CampGay: De Bris, and his assistant Carman Ghia. Picked by Bialystock as "the wrong director" that will utterly ruin the production. Unfortunately for them, he was the ''perfect'' director to turn the whole thing into a hit political satire.
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* SexyWalk: Ulla, and she can't help it.
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* TheatreIsTrueActing: PlayedForLaughs in the credits song, "There's Nothing Like a Show on Broadway". Movies and TV are boring, so go to the theater and experience the unique magic of a play or musical...even if it is terribly expensive, uncomfortable, and liable to miscastings and bad audiences.
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* RefugeInAudacity: The film itself. Creator/RogerEbert liked to tell a story of a time he overheard a woman confront Creator/MelBrooks in an elevator, saying, "Your film was nothing but vulgar!" Brooks responded, "Madam, my film rises below vulgarity."
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** The film itself. Creator/RogerEbert liked to tell a story of a time he overheard a woman confront Creator/MelBrooks in an elevator, saying, "Your film was nothing but vulgar!" Brooks responded, "Madam, my film rises below vulgarity.""
** Max and Leo’s scheme could be described as an example of "[[DeconstructedTrope too much audacity, not enough refuge]]", though, in that [[SpringtimeForHitler it failed]] and when the IRS and the police got involved, they were found "incredibly guilty".
** The film itself. Creator/RogerEbert liked to tell a story of a time he overheard a woman confront Creator/MelBrooks in an elevator, saying, "Your film was nothing but vulgar!" Brooks responded, "Madam, my film rises below vulgarity.
** Max and Leo’s scheme could be described as an example of "[[DeconstructedTrope too much audacity, not enough refuge]]", though, in that [[SpringtimeForHitler it failed]] and when the IRS and the police got involved, they were found "incredibly guilty".
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* AudienceAlienatingEra: Max Bialystock appears to be going through an in-universe case of this at the time he meets Leo. By the end of the film he's implied to have come out of it.
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* DorkAge: Max Bialystock appears to be going through an in-universe case of this at the time he meets Leo. By the end of the film he's implied to have come out of it.
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* ShesGotLegs: Ulla definitely counts.