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** Another is when Franz is cast as Hitler. It's hinted that, if he hadn't broken his leg, the show would have flopped as planned because he was [[TookTheBadFilmSeriously taking the bad show seriously]].
17th Jul '17 5:59:02 PM Luigifan
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* AdaptationDistillation: In-universe adapting ''Springtime for Hitler'', which was intended to be a serious piece about how awesome Hitler was, into a musical with wacky actor choices turned it from a guaranteed flop into a massive hit.

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* AdaptationDistillation: In-universe In-universe, adapting ''Springtime for Hitler'', which was intended to be a serious piece about how awesome Hitler was, into a musical with wacky actor choices turned it from a guaranteed flop into a massive hit.



* BilingualBonus: Ulla answers the phone with, "God dag på dig!" (Swedish for ''good day to you'')

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* BilingualBonus: Ulla answers the phone with, "God dag på dig!" (Swedish for ''good day to you'')you'').



* BromanticComedy: Basically what the main story of this film is, with Max teaching Leo that as the remake puts it "there is more to him then there is to him".
* BungledSuicide: Toward the end Franz Liebkind attempts to shoot himself, but the gun fails to go off.

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* BromanticComedy: Basically what the main story of this film is, with Max teaching Leo that that, as the remake puts it it, "there is more to him then than there is to him".
* BungledSuicide: Toward the end end, Franz Liebkind attempts to shoot himself, but the gun fails to go off.



* {{Corpsing}}: The still inexperienced with comedy Gene Wilder has declared he was struggling not to laugh, usually repressing it by reacting with shocked expressions (most noticeable at Roger De Bris' home).

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* {{Corpsing}}: The still inexperienced with comedy Gene Wilder Creator/GeneWilder has declared he was struggling not to laugh, usually repressing it by reacting with shocked expressions (most noticeable at Roger De Bris' home).



-->'''Roger:''' We've got to do something about that whole third act - ''(shocked)'' - they're losing the war!

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-->'''Roger:''' We've got to do something about that whole third act - -- ''(shocked)'' - -- they're losing the war!



-->'''Bialystock:''' ''(after being badly startled by Ulla asking if he wants coffee)'' Why don't you ask the gentleman ''with the gun''-- the ''gentleman who is shooting at us''-- if he'd like some coffee?

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-->'''Bialystock:''' ''(after being badly startled by Ulla asking if he wants coffee)'' Why don't you ask the gentleman ''with the gun''-- gun'' -- the ''gentleman who is shooting at us''-- us'' -- if he'd like some coffee?



* CourtroomAntics: [[AFoolForAClient Leo]] tries to appeal to the judge's compassion and sympathy, "no harm done", the old ladies concur with an applause and Max shows a deep remorse. An uplifting music acompanies the scene, it looked like a convincing defense, [[HopeSpot right?]]... cut to the exterior of the jail where the duo is imprisoned.

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* CourtroomAntics: [[AFoolForAClient Leo]] tries to appeal to the judge's compassion and sympathy, "no harm done", the old ladies concur with an applause applause, and Max shows a deep remorse. An uplifting music acompanies the scene, it looked like a convincing defense, [[HopeSpot right?]]... cut to the exterior of the jail where the duo is imprisoned.



* DelayedOhCrap: Franz after noting "And zis IS ze quick fuse." - ZE QUICK FUSE!?

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* DelayedOhCrap: Franz after noting "And zis IS ze quick fuse." - -- ZE QUICK FUSE!?



** At the park Max suggest to Leo to call him by his first name.

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** At the park park, Max suggest suggests to Leo to call him by his first name.



''[cut to them locked up in prison, doing it again.]''

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''[cut ''[Cut to them locked up in prison, doing it again.]''



* HairTriggerTemper: In a sense -- Leo Bloom has numerous triggers but they cause him to fall ''non-violently'' to pieces. He gets better as the movie progresses.

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* HairTriggerTemper: In a sense -- Leo Bloom has numerous triggers triggers, but they cause him to fall ''non-violently'' to pieces. He gets better as the movie progresses.



* HelloNurse: Ulla can at the rate of about one letter a minute, but can she ever work!

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* HelloNurse: Ulla can type at the rate of about one letter a minute, but can she ever work!



* HomelessPigeonPerson: [[SubvertedTrope Subversion]]: Franz Liebkind, the crazy [[strike: ex-]]Nazi playwright. Here, the pigeons prove that he is one of the CrazyHomelessPeople beyond a reasonable doubt. Mainly because he uses them for his crazy Nazi hijinx.

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* HomelessPigeonPerson: [[SubvertedTrope Subversion]]: Franz Liebkind, the crazy [[strike: ex-]]Nazi [[strike:ex-]]Nazi playwright. Here, the pigeons prove that he is one of the CrazyHomelessPeople beyond a reasonable doubt. Mainly because he uses them for his crazy Nazi hijinx.



* ItsWhatIDo: Max' conversation with his landlord early on:

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* ItsWhatIDo: Max' Max's conversation with his landlord early on:



* MisplacedADecimalPoint: Invoked. When begging Leo to not report his small scale embezzlement at the beginning, Max tells him he should just misplace a few decimals.
* MonkeyMoralityPose: Max, Leo and "Failure" briefly form the cliche for a moment in the bar across the street during intermission.

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* MisplacedADecimalPoint: Invoked. When begging Leo to not report his small scale small-scale embezzlement at the beginning, Max tells him he should just misplace a few decimals.
* MonkeyMoralityPose: Max, Leo Leo, and "Failure" briefly form the cliche for a moment in the bar across the street during intermission.



* MsFanservice: Ulla, {{gainaxing}} - stripperiffic dance included. Also an InnocentFanserviceGirl.

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* MsFanservice: Ulla, {{gainaxing}} - stripperiffic -- {{stripperiffic}} dance included. Also an InnocentFanserviceGirl.



* ParallelPornTitles: At one point Max escorts a stunned, thumb-sucking Leo from a theater showing "War and Piece".

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* ParallelPornTitles: At one point point, Max escorts a stunned, thumb-sucking Leo from a theater showing "War and Piece".



* ReactionShot: Used to great effect during the premiere of "Springtime for Hitler". The audience is at first shocked and disgusted, while Liebkind, Max and Leo are delighted for different reasons. And then LSD comes onto the stage with his goofy Hitler and the faces of everyone begin to show an opposite reaction.
* RealityIsUnrealistic: Mel Brooks based Roger [=DeBris=] elevator on a real friend's. It, too, was tiny and could barely handle three people. And yes, he did tell people to remove their shoes before entering, too.

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* ReactionShot: Used to great effect during the premiere of "Springtime for Hitler". The audience is at first shocked and disgusted, while Liebkind, Max Max, and Leo are delighted for different reasons. And then LSD comes onto the stage with his goofy Hitler and the faces of everyone begin to show an opposite reaction.
* RealityIsUnrealistic: Mel Brooks based Roger [=DeBris=] [=DeBris=]' elevator on a real friend's. It, too, was tiny and could barely handle three people. And yes, he did tell people to remove their shoes before entering, too.



* ARoundOfDrinksForTheHouse: Max does this while celebrating with Leo.. to the delight of the one other patron currently in the bar.

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* ARoundOfDrinksForTheHouse: Max does this while celebrating with Leo..Leo... to the delight of the one other patron currently in the bar.



* StylisticSuck: Max and Leo ''try'' to make pure suck and accidentally ending up with SoBadItsGood hilarity instead... which is bad because success is exactly how their attempt to pull off a scam will get them caught.

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* StylisticSuck: Max and Leo ''try'' to make pure suck and accidentally ending end up with SoBadItsGood hilarity instead... which is bad because success is exactly how their attempt to pull off a scam will get them caught.



* WhatTheHellIsThatAccent: Lee Meredith has said that Scandinavian viewers attribute her supposedly Swedish accent to Scandinavian countries other than the ones they're fromóDanes say it's Swedish, Swedes say it's Norwegian, and so forth.

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* WhatTheHellIsThatAccent: Lee Meredith has said that Scandinavian viewers attribute her supposedly Swedish accent to Scandinavian countries other than the ones they're fromóDanes from ó Danes say it's Swedish, Swedes say it's Norwegian, and so forth.



** Ulla's catch-phrase "''God dag min vännen''". Technically all words are correct but the grammar is shot to hell. She's actually saying "''Good day my the friend''." Correct phrasing would have been "''God dag min vän''". An example that ought to have been avoidable since Will Ferrell speaks enough Swedish to know the difference.
* AwardBaitSong: In the movie musical, Will Ferrell's soulful and heartfelt rendition of "Gutentag Hop Clop" plays over the end credits

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** Ulla's catch-phrase "''God dag min vännen''". Technically Technically, all words are correct correct, but the grammar is shot to hell. She's actually saying "''Good day my the friend''." Correct phrasing would have been "''God dag min vän''". An example that ought to have been avoidable since Will Ferrell Creator/WillFerrell speaks enough Swedish to know the difference.
* AwardBaitSong: In the movie musical, Will Ferrell's soulful and heartfelt rendition of "Gutentag Hop Clop" plays over the end creditscredits.



** Brooks' voice dubbed is into the "Springtime for Hitler" number (it's the same line recorded for the 1968 version).

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** Brooks' voice is dubbed is into the "Springtime for Hitler" number (it's the same line recorded for the 1968 version).



** Ulla benefits from it, of course, although it's only because she's attractive--no actual sex occurs.

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** Ulla benefits from it, of course, although it's only because she's attractive--no attractive -- no actual sex occurs.



** De Bris' name [[BrickJoke is also Elizabeth]], but he doesn't seem too embarrassed by it. It's more there so Max and Leo can do a double take.

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** De Bris' [=DeBris=]' name [[BrickJoke is also Elizabeth]], but he doesn't seem too embarrassed by it. It's more there so Max and Leo can do a double take.



* HilariousOuttakes: Good ''lord''. The reel on the DVD is a ''quarter of an hour long'' and will reduce you to tears. Apparently when Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick are in the same room together they induce chronic {{corpsing}} in each other.
* HistoricalInJoke: Franz sends a carrier pidgeon to Argentina - a [[ArgentinaIsNaziLand notorious haven for Nazis]] after [-WWII-].

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* HilariousOuttakes: Good ''lord''. The reel on the DVD is a ''quarter of an hour long'' and will reduce you to tears. Apparently when Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick are in the same room together together, they induce chronic {{corpsing}} in each other.
* HistoricalInJoke: Franz sends a carrier pidgeon to Argentina - -- a [[ArgentinaIsNaziLand notorious haven for Nazis]] after [-WWII-].



** In the stage version "In Old Balverdia" shows who Franz is in about 5 seconds

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** In the stage version version, "In Old Balverdia" shows who Franz is in about 5 secondsseconds.



** Franz almost all the time

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** Franz almost all the timetime.



** Instead of Franz, Max, and Leo trying to blow up the theater, Max and Leo get into a fight over the books, and Franz wants to get them both for breaking the "Sigfried Oath" with a pistol. Franz gets his legs broken, Max gets arrested and Leo escapes.
** "Prisoners of Love" also gets worked in at Sing Sing and [[spoiler: we see it hit Broadway after Max, Leo and Franz are pardoned in TheMusical.]] We are also treated to the Reprise, "Leo and Max," which also has the page quote.

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** Instead of Franz, Max, and Leo trying to blow up the theater, Max and Leo get into a fight over the books, and Franz wants to get them both for breaking the "Sigfried Oath" with a pistol. Franz gets his legs broken, Max gets arrested arrested, and Leo escapes.
** "Prisoners of Love" also gets worked in at Sing Sing and [[spoiler: we [[spoiler:we see it hit Broadway after Max, Leo and Franz are pardoned in TheMusical.]] TheMusical]]. We are also treated to the Reprise, "Leo and Max," which also has the page quote.



--> '''Ulla:''' Okie dokie, I vill try But there's just so many of them.

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--> '''Ulla:''' Okie dokie, I vill try try. But there's just so many of them.



** The play - Ulla: "Why Bloom go so far stage right?"
** The second movie - "Why Bloom go so far camera right?"
** At the start of the play's second act, Ulla says she painted the office white during the intermission.[[note]]Unfortunately, the joke couldn't translate to film so there she simply skips lunch.[[/note]]
** TheMovie of the musical alludes to this in credits song ''"Nothin' Like A Broadway Show"'':

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** The play - -- Ulla: "Why Bloom go so far stage right?"
** The second movie - -- "Why Bloom go so far camera right?"
** At the start of the play's second act, Ulla says she painted the office white during the intermission.[[note]]Unfortunately, the joke couldn't translate to film film, so there she simply skips lunch.[[/note]]
** TheMovie of the musical alludes to this in the credits song song, ''"Nothin' Like A Broadway Show"'':



* MsFanservice: Ulla, {{gainaxing}} - stripperiffic dance included.

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* MsFanservice: Ulla, {{gainaxing}} - stripperiffic -- {{stripperiffic}} dance included.



* NiceHat: Bialystock forbids Bloom to wear his spare black fedora because "that's a Broadway producer's hat, and you don't get to wear the Broadway producer's hat until you're a Broadway producer! [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment "And you're not a Broadway producer, until you've produced a Broadway play!"]]

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* NiceHat: Bialystock forbids Bloom to wear his spare black fedora because "that's a Broadway producer's hat, and you don't get to wear the Broadway producer's hat until you're a Broadway producer! [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment "And And you're not a Broadway producer, until you've produced a Broadway play!"]]play!]]"



* ReactionShot: Used to great effect during the premiere of "Springtime for Hitler". The audience is at first shocked and disgusted, while Liebkind, Max and Leo are delighted for different reasons. And then Roger De Bris comes into play with his goofy Hitler and the faces of everyone begin to show an opposite reaction.

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* ReactionShot: Used to great effect during the premiere of "Springtime for Hitler". The audience is at first shocked and disgusted, while Liebkind, Max Max, and Leo are delighted for different reasons. And then Roger De Bris comes into play with his goofy Hitler and the faces of everyone begin to show an opposite reaction.



** The ending has Bialystock and Bloom putting on several [[BlandNameProduct familiar sounding productions]], which include: [[Theatre/AStreetcarNamedDesire "A Streetcar Named Murray"]]; [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She_Stoops_to_Conquer "She Shtupps to Conquer"]]; [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Button_Shoes "High Button Jews"]]; [[Theatre/SouthPacific "South Passaic"]]; [[Theatre/{{Cats}} "Katz"]]; [[Theatre/{{Fame}} "Maim"]]; and [[Theatre/DeathOfASalesman "Death Of A Salesman]] -- [[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers On Ice!"]]
** Going through a list of potential candidates for the worst play ever written, Bialystock comes across a synopsis for Creator/FranzKafka's ''Literature/TheMetamorphosis''. ("Nah, it's too good.") A Karmann Ghia is a model of Volkswagen. Leopold Bloom is the protagonist of Creator/JamesJoyce's novel ''Literature/{{Ulysses}}''. At one point Max refers to Leo as "Prince Myshkin"; this is the protagonist of [[UsefulNotes/RussianRelaxing Dostoyevsky's]] novel ''Literature/TheIdiot''.

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** The ending has Bialystock and Bloom putting on several [[BlandNameProduct familiar sounding familiar-sounding productions]], which include: [[Theatre/AStreetcarNamedDesire "A Streetcar Named Murray"]]; [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She_Stoops_to_Conquer "She Shtupps to Conquer"]]; [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Button_Shoes "High Button Jews"]]; [[Theatre/SouthPacific "South Passaic"]]; [[Theatre/{{Cats}} "Katz"]]; [[Theatre/{{Fame}} "Maim"]]; and [[Theatre/DeathOfASalesman "Death Of A Salesman]] -- [[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers On Ice!"]]
** Going through a list of potential candidates for the worst play ever written, Bialystock comes across a synopsis for Creator/FranzKafka's ''Literature/TheMetamorphosis''. ("Nah, it's too good.") A Karmann Ghia is a model of Volkswagen. Leopold Bloom is the protagonist of Creator/JamesJoyce's novel ''Literature/{{Ulysses}}''. At one point point, Max refers to Leo as "Prince Myshkin"; this is the protagonist of [[UsefulNotes/RussianRelaxing Dostoyevsky's]] novel ''Literature/TheIdiot''.



** When Jason Alexander took over as Bialystock he adlibbed in "Betrayed." Bialystock calls out {{Intermission}} and is scripted to sit down for a moment before continuing the show. Instead Jason pulls out a playbill, flipping through it and said to the audience, "He's good, but he's no Lane." (Nathan Lane of course being the original player of Bialystock for the musical.)

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** When Jason Alexander took over as Bialystock Bialystock, he adlibbed in "Betrayed." Bialystock calls out {{Intermission}} and is scripted to sit down for a moment before continuing the show. Instead Instead, Jason pulls out a playbill, flipping through it and said to the audience, "He's good, but he's no Lane." (Nathan Lane Lane, of course course, being the original player of Bialystock for the musical.)



** During the song "The King of Broadway" a man says "It's good to be the king", a line from ''Film/HistoryOfTheWorldPartI''
** After the end credits of the 2005 movie [[spoiler: Mel Brooks]] says "[[Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff Get out! It's over!]]".

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** During the song "The King of Broadway" Broadway", a man says "It's good to be the king", a line from ''Film/HistoryOfTheWorldPartI''
''Film/HistoryOfTheWorldPartI''.
** After the end credits of the 2005 movie [[spoiler: Mel movie, [[spoiler:Mel Brooks]] says "[[Film/FerrisBuellersDayOff Get out! It's over!]]".



* SoBadItsGood: InUniverse, the reason Springtime for Hitler becomes a surprise hit. The musical adds Roger's camp and over-the-top portrayal of Hitler to sell it as satire instead of the straight musical Franz wanted.

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* SoBadItsGood: InUniverse, the reason Springtime ''Springtime for Hitler Hitler'' becomes a surprise hit. The musical adds Roger's camp and over-the-top portrayal of Hitler to sell it as satire instead of the straight musical Franz wanted.



-->'''Franz:''' I was never a member of the Nazi Party! I only followed orders! I had nothing to do with the war! I didn't even know there was a war on! We lived at the back, near Switzerland. All we heard was yodelling... yodel le he hoo! Hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo, Yodelay, Yodelay, Yodelay''

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-->'''Franz:''' I was never a member of the Nazi Party! I only followed orders! I had nothing to do with the war! I didn't even know there was a war on! We lived at the back, near Switzerland. All we heard was yodelling... yodel le he hoo! Hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo, Yodelay, Yodelay, Yodelay''Yodelay!



* UnwantedAssistance: [[invoked]]Max to Leo at the trial (whose "defense" of Max begins with a list of all of Max's faults) in the both movies; Max then says again to the off-key chorus of old ladies at the trial in the musical remake.

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* UnwantedAssistance: [[invoked]]Max to Leo at the trial (whose "defense" of Max begins with a list of all of Max's faults) in the both movies; Max then says it again to the off-key chorus of old ladies at the trial in the musical remake.



'''Leo''': (beat) I'm in pain. ''I'M IN PAIN, I'M WET AND I'M STILL HYSTERICAL!!''

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'''Leo''': (beat) I'm in pain. ''I'M IN PAIN, I'M WET WET, AND I'M STILL HYSTERICAL!!''



* WhatTheHellHero[=/=]EvenEvilHasStandards: Leo to Max when he is contemplating killing the actors to save the neck:

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* WhatTheHellHero[=/=]EvenEvilHasStandards: Leo to Max when he is contemplating killing the actors to save the neck:their necks:
15th Jul '17 11:56:34 AM Jeduthun
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%%* HamToHamCombat - ZCE

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%%* HamToHamCombat - ZCE* HamToHamCombat: The film exists in a WorldOfHam, so this is only to be expected, but worth particular mention is the opening sequence Creator/ZeroMostel and Creator/GeneWilder's characters first meet. Bialystock goes on a screaming rampage and Bloom has a full freak-out panic attack.
18th Jun '17 4:21:25 PM Gosicrystal
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* ReliablyUnreliableGuns: Franz Liebkind's Luger jams and fires when dropped, with great comedic timing. The classic Luger's toggle action [[AccidentallyAccurate actually is somewhat temperamental]].

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* ReliablyUnreliableGuns: Franz Liebkind's Luger jams and fires when dropped, with great comedic timing. The classic Luger's toggle action [[AccidentallyAccurate [[AccidentallyCorrectWriting actually is somewhat temperamental]].



* SexyDiscretionShot

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* %%* SexyDiscretionShot
17th Jun '17 9:12:49 AM Odacon_Spy
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** Roger DeBris [[spoiler:gets to put on a smash hit Broadway musical and even star in it]]!

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** Roger DeBris [=DeBris=] [[spoiler:gets to put on a smash hit Broadway musical and even star in it]]!
20th May '17 8:13:27 PM AnotherGuy
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* EasilyForgiven: Franz has apparently gotten over Max and Leo making a mockery of Hitler, since he helps them with ''Prisoners of Love''.
20th May '17 8:11:41 PM AnotherGuy
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* DownerEnding: InUniverse, Roger de Bris has issues with the third act.
-->'''Roger:''' That whole third act has got to go. They're losing the war. It's too ''depressing''.
5th May '17 7:06:51 AM isolato
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* HistoricalInJoke: Franz sends a carrier pidgeon to Argentina - a notorious haven for Nazis after [-WWII-].

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* HistoricalInJoke: Franz sends a carrier pidgeon to Argentina - a [[ArgentinaIsNaziLand notorious haven for Nazis Nazis]] after [-WWII-].
4th May '17 8:41:20 AM isolato
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* NewAgeRetroHippe: Lorenzo St. Dubois.

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* NewAgeRetroHippe: NewAgeRetroHippie: Lorenzo St. Dubois.
5th Apr '17 5:36:46 PM NWolfman
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* HollywoodAccounting: The plot revolves around two men trying to game the system by over-funding a show that they know will flop, then running off with the difference knowing that the IRS won't check the books. It's rumored to be the first motion picture to use the term "creative accounting."
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