Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Film / RobRoy

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CombatPragmatist: Rob repeatedly uses tricky and surprising moves to win fights, which juxtaposes his otherwise honorable behavior. It also foreshadows the climax of the final duel: [[spoiler:Rob doesn't win because of superior skill (if anything the film has long since established that Archie is the better swordsman) but by clever recognizing an opportunity when he sees it and bending the rules to take advantage of it.]]

to:

* CombatPragmatist: Rob repeatedly uses tricky and surprising moves to win fights, which juxtaposes his otherwise honorable behavior. It also foreshadows the climax of the final duel: [[spoiler:Rob doesn't win because of superior skill (if anything the film has long since established that Archie is the better swordsman) but by clever cleverly recognizing an opportunity when he sees it and bending the rules to take advantage of it.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* DentedIron: By the time of the final duel Rob has been injured several times and is still bandaged, nevertheless he gives a good account of himself [[spoiler:and eventually wins through determination and cunning.]]

Added: 177

Changed: 510

Removed: 953

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Archibald defends himself by saying he thought the boy was a girl. It's likely a joke anyway.


* ArtisticLicenseMedicine: When Rob escapes by wrapping the rope around Archie's neck and jumping off the bridge, Archie is strangling, but upon being cut loose suffers no more than some pain and a raspy voice. In reality, Rob would have been falling at about 25 miles per hour after falling that distance (roughly twenty feet) before the rope snapped taut around Archie's neck, arresting his fall. Considering Rob's weight, the rope would have crushed Archie's windpipe completely. Cutting him loose would have made no difference in the end, he would have suffocated in minutes either way.

to:

* ArtisticLicenseMedicine: When Rob escapes by wrapping the rope around Archie's neck and jumping off the bridge, Archie is strangling, but upon being cut loose suffers no more than some pain and a raspy voice. In reality, Rob would have been falling at about 25 miles per hour after falling that distance (roughly twenty feet) before the rope snapped taut around Archie's neck, arresting his fall. Considering Rob's weight, the rope would have crushed Archie's windpipe completely. Cutting him loose would have made no difference in the end, he end. He would have suffocated in minutes either way.



* CombatPragmatist: Rob repeatedly uses tricky and surprising moves to win fights, which juxtaposes his otherwise honorable behavior. It also foreshadows the climax of the final duel: [[spoiler:Rob doesn't win because of superior skill (if anything the film has long since established that Archie is the better swordsman) but by clever recognizing an opportunity when he saw it and bending the rules to take advantage of it.]]

to:

* CombatPragmatist: Rob repeatedly uses tricky and surprising moves to win fights, which juxtaposes his otherwise honorable behavior. It also foreshadows the climax of the final duel: [[spoiler:Rob doesn't win because of superior skill (if anything the film has long since established that Archie is the better swordsman) but by clever recognizing an opportunity when he saw sees it and bending the rules to take advantage of it.]]



* DepravedBisexual: Apart from taking advantage of two women, Archibald Cunningham is also implied to have raped at least one boy. Guthrie says he's heard plenty of English men are like that.



* {{Flynning}}: Thoroughly averted in the final duel between Rob and Cunningham. The fight is extremely realistic, notably in that Cunningham (who is wielding a small-sword) stays far from Rob, (who wields a basket-hilted claymore) and is wary of Rob's superior strength, longer reach, and heavier blade. He attempts to do Roy in by DeathOfAThousandCuts, with the goal being to weaken Rob before finishing him off when Rob is too weak to resist. That is a very valid strategy in sword fighting, particularly with such a light weapon, and several recorded duels were fought and won using exactly that method.









** Humorously averted between [=MacGregor=] and a drunken Guthrie in a duel to "the first cut": [[spoiler: Rob cuts his hand on Guthrie's extended sword.]]



* OohMeAccentsSlipping: Rob starts to sound noticeably Irish at several points throughout the film.
** Similarly, Tim Roth's famous cockney accent shines through Archie's prim, upper class accent on a few occasions.
* PintSizedPowerhouse: Archie is far from physically imposing, being skinny and played by 5'8 Tim Roth, and looks positively tiny next to Rob, who is played by 6'4 Liam Neeson. Nevertheless, his speed and skill make him an extremely formidable opponent.

to:

* OohMeAccentsSlipping: OohMeAccentsSlipping:
**
Rob starts to sound noticeably Irish at several points throughout the film.
** Similarly, Tim Roth's famous cockney accent shines through Archie's prim, upper class accent on a few occasions.
* PintSizedPowerhouse: Archie is far from physically imposing, being skinny smaller and played skinnier than the swordsmen he fights, as noted by 5'8 Tim Roth, and looks positively tiny next to Rob, Guthrie, who is played by 6'4 Liam Neeson. Nevertheless, mocks his speed and skill make him an extremely formidable opponent.slender physique. However, he's quite the MasterSwordsman.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


[[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/robroy.png]]

to:

[[quoteright:350:https://static.[[quoteright:325:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/robroy.png]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Better quality


[[quoteright:300:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/RobRoy_9311.jpg]]

to:

[[quoteright:300:https://static.[[quoteright:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/RobRoy_9311.jpg]]
org/pmwiki/pub/images/robroy.png]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


''Rob Roy'' is a 1995 historical adventure/drama film directed by Michael Caton-Jones. Being [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory vaguely inspired by real events]], it has almost nothing to do with the 1817 novel ''Literature/RobRoy'' by Sir Creator/WalterScott), and stars Creator/LiamNeeson, Creator/TimRoth, Creator/JessicaLange, Creator/BrianCox, and Creator/JohnHurt. It tells the [[JustLikeRobinHood heavily fictionalized]] story of Scottish folk hero Robert Roy [=MacGregor=], and his part in the Jacobite Rising.

to:

''Rob Roy'' is a 1995 historical adventure/drama film directed by Michael Caton-Jones. Being [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory vaguely inspired by real events]], it has almost nothing to do with the 1817 novel ''Literature/RobRoy'' by Sir Creator/WalterScott), Creator/WalterScott, and stars Creator/LiamNeeson, Creator/TimRoth, Creator/JessicaLange, Creator/BrianCox, and Creator/JohnHurt. It tells the [[JustLikeRobinHood heavily fictionalized]] story of Scottish folk hero Robert Roy [=MacGregor=], and his part in the Jacobite Rising.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


''Rob Roy'' is a 1995 historical adventure/drama film directed by Michael Caton-Jones. Being [[LooselyBasedOnATrueStory vaguely inspired by real events]], it has almost nothing to do with the 1817 novel ''Literature/RobRoy'' by Sir Creator/WalterScott), and stars Creator/LiamNeeson, Creator/TimRoth, Creator/JessicaLange, Creator/BrianCox, and Creator/JohnHurt. It tells the [[JustLikeRobinHood heavily fictionalized]] story of Scottish folk hero Robert Roy [=MacGregor=], and his part in the Jacobite Rising.

to:

''Rob Roy'' is a 1995 historical adventure/drama film directed by Michael Caton-Jones. Being [[LooselyBasedOnATrueStory [[VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory vaguely inspired by real events]], it has almost nothing to do with the 1817 novel ''Literature/RobRoy'' by Sir Creator/WalterScott), and stars Creator/LiamNeeson, Creator/TimRoth, Creator/JessicaLange, Creator/BrianCox, and Creator/JohnHurt. It tells the [[JustLikeRobinHood heavily fictionalized]] story of Scottish folk hero Robert Roy [=MacGregor=], and his part in the Jacobite Rising.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* MightyGlacier: Rob is slower than Cunningham but larger and stronger than him.

to:

* MightyGlacier: Rob is slower than Cunningham but larger and stronger than him. While Archie is able to run circles around him with his speed and deal with damaging cuts with his sword, all it takes is one blow from Rob to defeat Archie.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CallBack: At the end of Archibald Cunningham’s match with Guthrie, Montrose informs Argyll that his factor, Killearn, would call upon Argyll’s factor to settle the payment of the wager. When Cunningham is to face Rob Roy in a duel at the end, Argyll lays out the terms of the wager: if Rob wins, Montrose will forgive Rob’s debt, and if Archie wins, Argyll will pay Rob’s bill. Montrose, sure that Archie will win, prematurely makes the same statement as at the end of Guthrie’s spar:
-->'''Montrose:''' My factor will call upon Your Grace’s factor.

Added: 186

Changed: 196

Removed: 31

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Per TRS Good People Have Good Sex is now a disambig page.


* GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex: Rob's mutually passionate and affectionate sex life with Mary is shown repeatedly, while we see only the aftermath of Archie's liaisons, which clearly mean nothing to him.
* HideAndNoSeek: Rob does this.

to:

* GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex: Rob's mutually passionate and affectionate sex life with Mary is shown repeatedly, while we see only the aftermath of Archie's liaisons, which clearly mean nothing to him.
*
%%* HideAndNoSeek: Rob does this.


Added DiffLines:

* SexualKarma: Rob's mutually passionate and affectionate sex life with Mary is shown repeatedly, while we see only the aftermath of Archie's liaisons, which clearly mean nothing to him.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AttackTheInjury: Slightly downplayed, as not much attention is called to it, but just before the final duel Archie takes note of Rob's rib injury when Rob hisses in pain while taking off his coat. Archie then looks to exploit that injury both by aiming several slashes at Rob's torso and also making Rob exert himself more by chasing Archie, which is agonizing and drains stamina when one has a rib injury. Finally, Archie's last attack before Rob falls to his knees is a slice directly over the ribs, which causes Rob to fall to his knees gasping for air and in pain.

to:

* AttackTheInjury: Slightly downplayed, as not much attention is called to it, but just before the final duel Archie takes note of Rob's rib injury when Rob hisses in pain while taking off his coat. Archie then looks to exploit that injury both by aiming several slashes at Rob's torso and also making Rob exert himself more by chasing Archie, which is agonizing and drains stamina when one has a rib injury. Finally, Archie's last attack before Rob falls to his knees is a slice directly over the ribs, which causes Rob to fall to his knees in pain, gasping for air and in pain.air.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


Robert Roy [=MacGregor=] is a chieftain in the Scottish Highlands. He borrows £1,000 from the Marquess of Montrose, but it's stolen by Montrose's protege, a deadly fop named Archibald Cunningham (played by Tim Roth, who earned an [[OscarBait Oscar nomination]]). Montrose agrees to forgive the debt if [=MacGregor=] frames his enemy, the Duke of Argyll. He refuses, [[ItsPersonal sees his farm burnt and his wife raped]], and is forced to go into hiding. He must find a way to clear his name in court, or failing that, war against those who come after him.

to:

Robert Roy [=MacGregor=] (Neeson) is a chieftain in the Scottish Highlands. He borrows £1,000 from the Marquess of Montrose, Montrose (Hurt), but it's stolen by Montrose's protege, a deadly fop named Archibald Cunningham (played by Tim Roth, (Roth, who earned an [[OscarBait Oscar nomination]]).UsefulNotes/AcademyAward nomination). Montrose agrees to forgive the debt if [=MacGregor=] frames his enemy, the Duke of Argyll. He refuses, [[ItsPersonal sees his farm burnt and his wife raped]], (Lange) raped, and is forced to go into hiding. He must find a way to clear his name in court, or failing that, war against those who come after him.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


A 1995 film (VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory, being vaguely inspired by real events; has almost nothing to do with the 1817 novel ''Literature/RobRoy'' by Sir Creator/WalterScott) directed by Michael Caton-Jones, starring Creator/LiamNeeson, Creator/TimRoth, Creator/JessicaLange, Creator/BrianCox, and Creator/JohnHurt. It tells the [[JustLikeRobinHood heavily fictionalized]] story of Scottish folk hero Robert Roy [=MacGregor=], and his part in the Jacobite Rising. While it was overshadowed by [[Film/{{Braveheart}} that other 1995 movie about Scottish rebellion against the English]], the climactic SwordFight is held up as one of the best in film.

Robert Roy [=MacGregor=] is a chieftain in the Scottish Highlands. He borrows £1,000 from the Marquess of Montrose, but it's stolen by Montrose's protege, a deadly fop named Archibald Cunningham (played by Tim Roth, who earned an [[OscarBait Oscar nomination]]).

Montrose agrees to forgive the debt if [=MacGregor=] frames his enemy, the Duke of Argyll. He refuses, [[ItsPersonal sees his farm burnt and his wife raped]], and is forced to go into hiding. He must find a way to clear his name in court, or failing that, war against those who come after him.

to:

A ''Rob Roy'' is a 1995 historical adventure/drama film (VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory, being directed by Michael Caton-Jones. Being [[LooselyBasedOnATrueStory vaguely inspired by real events; events]], it has almost nothing to do with the 1817 novel ''Literature/RobRoy'' by Sir Creator/WalterScott) directed by Michael Caton-Jones, starring Creator/WalterScott), and stars Creator/LiamNeeson, Creator/TimRoth, Creator/JessicaLange, Creator/BrianCox, and Creator/JohnHurt. It tells the [[JustLikeRobinHood heavily fictionalized]] story of Scottish folk hero Robert Roy [=MacGregor=], and his part in the Jacobite Rising. While it was overshadowed by [[Film/{{Braveheart}} that other 1995 movie about Scottish rebellion against the English]], the climactic SwordFight is held up as one of the best in film.\n\n

Robert Roy [=MacGregor=] is a chieftain in the Scottish Highlands. He borrows £1,000 from the Marquess of Montrose, but it's stolen by Montrose's protege, a deadly fop named Archibald Cunningham (played by Tim Roth, who earned an [[OscarBait Oscar nomination]]).

nomination]]). Montrose agrees to forgive the debt if [=MacGregor=] frames his enemy, the Duke of Argyll. He refuses, [[ItsPersonal sees his farm burnt and his wife raped]], and is forced to go into hiding. He must find a way to clear his name in court, or failing that, war against those who come after him.
him.

While it was overshadowed by [[Film/{{Braveheart}} that other 1995 movie about Scottish rebellion against the English]], the climactic SwordFight is held up as one of the best in film.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
They are ALL British.


* {{BFS}}: The heavy claymores of the Scots are contrasted with the nimble {{Royal Rapier}}s of the British. Archie mocks Guthrie's sword as a "cleaver."

to:

* {{BFS}}: The heavy claymores of the Highland Scots are contrasted with the nimble {{Royal Rapier}}s of the British.Lowland aristocrats. Archie mocks Guthrie's sword as a "cleaver."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* SacrificialLion: Rob's [[LeeroyJenkins foolishly aggressive]] younger brother, who practically has "Doomed relative" written across his face from the first scene he appears in.

Added: 253

Changed: 127

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ObfuscatingStupidity: Or rather, [[TheDandy obfuscating foppery.]] Archibald Cunningham likes to give the impression he's a harmless dandy through his fixation on fashion and courtly manners. Montrose makes use of this to swindle money, placing bets on Cunningham in sword fights, where Cunningham's oblivious opponents quickly discover he's [[MasterSwordsman a ruthless and extremely skilled swordsman.]]

to:

* ObfuscatingStupidity: Or rather, [[TheDandy obfuscating foppery.]] Archibald Cunningham likes to give the impression he's a harmless dandy through his fixation on fashion and courtly manners.manners, the kind of upper-class person who's never been in a fight in their lives and wouldn't know one end of a sword from the other. Montrose makes use of this to swindle money, placing bets on Cunningham in sword fights, where Cunningham's oblivious opponents quickly discover he's [[MasterSwordsman a ruthless and extremely skilled swordsman.]]


Added DiffLines:

* PintSizedPowerhouse: Archie is far from physically imposing, being skinny and played by 5'8 Tim Roth, and looks positively tiny next to Rob, who is played by 6'4 Liam Neeson. Nevertheless, his speed and skill make him an extremely formidable opponent.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FauxAffablyEvil: Archie always has a polite disposition, can charm others easily enough and speaks like a true, upper-class gentleman but it only provides a thin mask for his sadism and depravity and there's nothing sincere about it.


Added DiffLines:

** Similarly, Tim Roth's famous cockney accent shines through Archie's prim, upper class accent on a few occasions.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* BrightIsNotGood: Cunningham is a villain who wears gaudy, colorful uniforms while Rob Roy and the Scots stick with earthly tones.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:


* HistoricalInJoke: The film never makes clear if Mary's child is Rob's, or her rapist's. The {{Real Life}} Rob Roy's youngest son Robin Oig Macgregor murdered a neighbor and was later hanged for rape in 1754.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* WhosYourDaddy: Mary is pregnant at the end of the film and there’s no indication whether or not it’s Rob’s or [[ChildByRape Cunningham's]].

to:

* WhosYourDaddy: Mary is pregnant at the end of the film and there’s no indication whether or not it’s Rob’s or [[ChildByRape Cunningham's]]. Rob makes clear he will accept the child as his.

Added: 304

Changed: 218

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* UnskilledButStrong: Downplayed but Rob is more of a CombatPragmatist than a MasterSwordsman, most likely having picked it up as he went along. He relies more on physical strength and sheer determination in his final duel with Cunningham.

to:

* UnskilledButStrong: Downplayed but UnskilledButStrong:
** Guthrie relies almost entirely on brute force when fighting.
**
Rob himself is a downplayed example, being more of a CombatPragmatist than a MasterSwordsman, most likely having picked it up as he went along. He relies more on physical strength and sheer determination in his final duel with Cunningham.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* UnskilledButStrong: Downplayed but Rob is more of a CombatPragmatist than a MasterSwordsman, most likely having picked it up as he went along. He relies more on physical strength and sheer determination in his final duel with Cunningham.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AlliterativeTitle: '''R'''ob '''R'''oy.

to:

* AlliterativeTitle: '''R'''ob '''R'''oy.'''Ro'''b '''Ro'''y.

Changed: 255

Removed: 264

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CoitusUninterruptus

to:

* CoitusUninterruptusTheCoatsAreOff: Before the final duel, Rob removes his heavy jacket. Cunningham removes his opulent frock coat and, to show he's taking this fight much more seriously than his earlier ones, he also removes his heavy wig, forgoing vanity for not being encumbered.



* TheCoatsAreOff: Before the final duel, Rob removes his heavy jacket. Cunningham removes his opulent frock coat and, to show he's taking this fight much more seriously than his earlier ones, he also removes his heavy wig, forgoing vanity for not being encumbered.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* InternalReveal: Cunningham looks like he would be worthless in a fight and Rob anticipates as much. However the audience knows from Cunningham's introduction that he's a skilled fencer and thus his small frame and sword are ''very'' dangerous in a duel.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CombatPragmatist: Rob repeatedly uses tricky and surprising moves to win fights, which juxtaposes his otherwise honorable behavior.

to:

* CombatPragmatist: Rob repeatedly uses tricky and surprising moves to win fights, which juxtaposes his otherwise honorable behavior. It also foreshadows the climax of the final duel: [[spoiler:Rob doesn't win because of superior skill (if anything the film has long since established that Archie is the better swordsman) but by clever recognizing an opportunity when he saw it and bending the rules to take advantage of it.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AttackTheInjury: Slightly downplayed, as not much attention is called to it, but just before the final duel Archie takes note of Rob's rib injury when Rob hisses in pain while taking off his coat. Archie then looks to exploit that injury both by aiming several slashes at Rob's torso and also making Rob exert himself more by chasing Archie, which is agonizing and drains stamina when one has a rib injury. Finally, Archie's last attack before Rob falls to his knees is a slice directly over the ribs, which causes Rob to fall to his knees gasping for air and in pain.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AlliterativeTitle: '''R'''ob '''R'''oy.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


A 1995 film (VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory, being vaguely inspired by real events; has almost nothing to do with the 1817 novel by Sir Creator/WalterScott) directed by Michael Caton-Jones, starring Creator/LiamNeeson, Creator/TimRoth, Creator/JessicaLange, Creator/BrianCox, and Creator/JohnHurt. It tells the [[JustLikeRobinHood heavily fictionalized]] story of Scottish folk hero Robert Roy [=MacGregor=], and his part in the Jacobite Rising. While it was overshadowed by [[Film/{{Braveheart}} that other 1995 movie about Scottish rebellion against the English]], the climactic SwordFight is held up as one of the best in film.

to:

A 1995 film (VeryLooselyBasedOnATrueStory, being vaguely inspired by real events; has almost nothing to do with the 1817 novel ''Literature/RobRoy'' by Sir Creator/WalterScott) directed by Michael Caton-Jones, starring Creator/LiamNeeson, Creator/TimRoth, Creator/JessicaLange, Creator/BrianCox, and Creator/JohnHurt. It tells the [[JustLikeRobinHood heavily fictionalized]] story of Scottish folk hero Robert Roy [=MacGregor=], and his part in the Jacobite Rising. While it was overshadowed by [[Film/{{Braveheart}} that other 1995 movie about Scottish rebellion against the English]], the climactic SwordFight is held up as one of the best in film.

Top