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A 1999 [[TheWestern Western]] drama directed by Creator/AngLee, based on the novel ''Woe to Live On'' by Daniel Woodrell. It follows two friends, Jake Roedel (Creator/TobeyMaguire) and Jack Bull Chiles (Skeet Ulrich), as they fight with Quantrill's band of raiders during the UsefulNotes/AmericanCivilWar.

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A 1999 [[TheWestern Western]] drama directed by Creator/AngLee, based on the novel ''Woe to Live On'' by Daniel Woodrell. It follows two friends, Jake Roedel (Creator/TobeyMaguire) and Jack Bull Chiles (Skeet Ulrich), (Creator/SkeetUlrich), as they fight with Quantrill's band of raiders during the UsefulNotes/AmericanCivilWar.
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* {{Expy}}: Black John is based on the historical "Bloody Bill" Anderson and Pitt is based on "Little Archie" Clements. Anderson rode with Quantrill until the deaths of his sisters, after which he became a blood thirsty psychopath who killed anyone in Union blue. Archie was TheDragon who obeyed Anderson's every order.

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* {{Expy}}: NoHistoricalFiguresWereHarmed: Black John is based on the historical "Bloody Bill" Anderson and Pitt is based on "Little Archie" Clements. Anderson rode with Quantrill until the deaths of his sisters, after which he became a blood thirsty bloodthirsty psychopath who killed anyone in Union blue. Archie was TheDragon Anderson right-hand man who obeyed Anderson's his every order.
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* {{Expy}}: Black John is based on the historical "Bloody Bill" Anderson and Pitt is based on "Little Archie" Clements. Anderson rode with Quantrill until the deaths of his sisters, after which he became a blood thirsty psychopath who killed anyone in Union blue. Archie was TheDragon who obeyed Anderson's every order. Some of their atrocities could be considered {{Nightmare Fuel}}: [[spoiler:decapitating a soldier, cutting his genitalia off, stuffing it in his mouth, and then arranging the corpse so it's sitting up holding it's own head. All this in front of a troop of soldiers about to executed.]]

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* {{Expy}}: Black John is based on the historical "Bloody Bill" Anderson and Pitt is based on "Little Archie" Clements. Anderson rode with Quantrill until the deaths of his sisters, after which he became a blood thirsty psychopath who killed anyone in Union blue. Archie was TheDragon who obeyed Anderson's every order. Some of their atrocities could be considered {{Nightmare Fuel}}: [[spoiler:decapitating a soldier, cutting his genitalia off, stuffing it in his mouth, and then arranging the corpse so it's sitting up holding it's own head. All this in front of a troop of soldiers about to executed.]]

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* AttackAttackAttack: Both sides during the retreat from Lawrence.
* AxCrazy: Black John, after he learns of the death of his sisters.
* BigBad: The Jayhawkers or Quantrill and company, based on whose side you're on.

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%% * AttackAttackAttack: Both sides during the retreat from Lawrence.
%% * AxCrazy: Black John, after he learns of the death of his sisters.
* BigBad: The Jayhawkers or Quantrill and company, based on whose side you're on.
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* GoryDiscretionShot: [[spoiler:Jack Bull's leg amputation]]
* OneSteveLimit: Averted with the two main characters.
* ShotgunWedding

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%% * GoryDiscretionShot: [[spoiler:Jack Bull's leg amputation]]
%% * OneSteveLimit: Averted with the two main characters.
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* ShotgunWedding
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* BlackBestFriend / TokenMinority: Holt, George Clyde's freed slave. Woe to anyone who insults Holt in front of Clyde.
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* ValuesDissonance: The film was destroyed at the box office thanks to Values Dissonance. The movie portrays an African American fighting on the side of southern guerrillas in the Kansas border skirmishes of the Civil War. Although the character had a historically factual precedent, the idea of a black soldier fighting for the Confederacy, an institution widely associated with white supremacy, was so repugnant that the film was delayed, promotional materials were destroyed, and the release was severely limited (in the actual Confederacy most of the black soldiers were slaves forced into service by their masters though, so it's not as if they were all willing anyway). Even in the film, the character possibly only goes with them because he feels grateful for George freeing him, and suffers from constant racism by the white fighters.

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* {{Expy}}: Black John is based on the historical "Bloody Bill" Anderson and Pitt is based on "Little Archie" Clements. Anderson rode with Quantrill until the deaths of his sisters, after which he became a blood thirsty pyschopath who killed anyone in union blue. Archie was TheDragon who obeyed Anderson's every order. Some of their atrocities could be considered {{Nightmare Fuel}}: [[spoiler:decapitating a soldier, cutting his genitalia off, stuffing it in his mouth, and then arranging the corpse so it's sitting up holding it's own head. All this in front of a troop of soldiers about to executed.]]

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* {{Expy}}: Black John is based on the historical "Bloody Bill" Anderson and Pitt is based on "Little Archie" Clements. Anderson rode with Quantrill until the deaths of his sisters, after which he became a blood thirsty pyschopath psychopath who killed anyone in union Union blue. Archie was TheDragon who obeyed Anderson's every order. Some of their atrocities could be considered {{Nightmare Fuel}}: [[spoiler:decapitating a soldier, cutting his genitalia off, stuffing it in his mouth, and then arranging the corpse so it's sitting up holding it's own head. All this in front of a troop of soldiers about to executed.]]


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* ValuesDissonance: The film was destroyed at the box office thanks to Values Dissonance. The movie portrays an African American fighting on the side of southern guerrillas in the Kansas border skirmishes of the Civil War. Although the character had a historically factual precedent, the idea of a black soldier fighting for the Confederacy, an institution widely associated with white supremacy, was so repugnant that the film was delayed, promotional materials were destroyed, and the release was severely limited (in the actual Confederacy most of the black soldiers were slaves forced into service by their masters though, so it's not as if they were all willing anyway). Even in the film, the character possibly only goes with them because he feels grateful for George freeing him, and suffers from constant racism by the white fighters.
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A 1999 [[TheWestern Western]] drama directed by Creator/AngLee, based on the novel ''Woe to Live On'' by Daniel Woodrell. It follows two friends, Jake Roedel (Creator/TobeyMaguire) and Jack Bull Chiles (Skeet Ulrich), as they fight with Quantrill's band of raiders during the AmericanCivilWar.

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A 1999 [[TheWestern Western]] drama directed by Creator/AngLee, based on the novel ''Woe to Live On'' by Daniel Woodrell. It follows two friends, Jake Roedel (Creator/TobeyMaguire) and Jack Bull Chiles (Skeet Ulrich), as they fight with Quantrill's band of raiders during the AmericanCivilWar.UsefulNotes/AmericanCivilWar.
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* AxCrazy: Black John, after her learns of the death of his sisters.
* BigBad: The Jayhawkers or Quantrill and company, based on whose side your on.

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* AxCrazy: Black John, after her he learns of the death of his sisters.
* BigBad: The Jayhawkers or Quantrill and company, based on whose side your you're on.

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A 1999 [[TheWestern Western]] drama directed by Creator/AngLee, based on the novel "Woe to Live On" by Daniel Woodrell. Follows friends, Jake Roedel (Creator/TobeyMaguire) and Jack Bull Chiles (Skeet Ulrich), as they fight with Quantrill's band of raiders during the AmericanCivilWar.

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A 1999 [[TheWestern Western]] drama directed by Creator/AngLee, based on the novel "Woe ''Woe to Live On" On'' by Daniel Woodrell. Follows It follows two friends, Jake Roedel (Creator/TobeyMaguire) and Jack Bull Chiles (Skeet Ulrich), as they fight with Quantrill's band of raiders during the AmericanCivilWar. AmericanCivilWar.
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A 1999 civil war drama directed by Creator/AngLee, based on the novel "Woe to Live On" by Daniel Woodrell. Follows friends, Jake Roedel (Creator/TobeyMaguire) and Jack Bull Chiles (Skeet Ulrich), as they fight with Quantrill's band of raiders during the AmericanCivilWar.

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A 1999 civil war [[TheWestern Western]] drama directed by Creator/AngLee, based on the novel "Woe to Live On" by Daniel Woodrell. Follows friends, Jake Roedel (Creator/TobeyMaguire) and Jack Bull Chiles (Skeet Ulrich), as they fight with Quantrill's band of raiders during the AmericanCivilWar.
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A 1999 civil war drama directed by Creator/AngLee. Based on the book "Woe To Live One" by Daniel Woodrell. Follows friends, Jake Roedel (Creator/TobeyMaguire) and Jack Bull Chiles (SkeetUlrich), as they fight with Quantrill's band of raiders during the Civil War.

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A 1999 civil war drama directed by Creator/AngLee. Based Creator/AngLee, based on the book novel "Woe To to Live One" On" by Daniel Woodrell. Follows friends, Jake Roedel (Creator/TobeyMaguire) and Jack Bull Chiles (SkeetUlrich), (Skeet Ulrich), as they fight with Quantrill's band of raiders during the Civil War.AmericanCivilWar.

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* UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar: Kansas and Missouri, 1861-1865.

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* UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar: Kansas and Missouri, 1861-1865.



* UsefulNotes/AntebellumAmerica: The beginning of the movie is set right before the start of the war.
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* AntebellumAmerica: The beginning of the movie is set right before the start of the war.

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* AntebellumAmerica: UsefulNotes/AntebellumAmerica: The beginning of the movie is set right before the start of the war.
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* TheAmericanCivilWar: Kansas and Missouri, 1861-1865.

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* TheAmericanCivilWar: UsefulNotes/TheAmericanCivilWar: Kansas and Missouri, 1861-1865.
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A 1999 civil war drama directed by Creator/AngLee. Based on the book "Woe To Live One" by Daniel Woodrell. Follows friends, Jake Roedel (TobeyMaguire) and Jack Bull Chiles (SkeetUlrich), as they fight with Quantrill's band of raiders during the Civil War.

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A 1999 civil war drama directed by Creator/AngLee. Based on the book "Woe To Live One" by Daniel Woodrell. Follows friends, Jake Roedel (TobeyMaguire) (Creator/TobeyMaguire) and Jack Bull Chiles (SkeetUlrich), as they fight with Quantrill's band of raiders during the Civil War.
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* {{Expy}}: Black John is based on the historical "Bloody Bill" Anderson and Pitt is based on "Little Archie" Clements. Anderson rode with Quantrill until the deaths of his sisters, after which he became a blood thirsty pyschopath who killed anyone in union blue. Archie was his {{Dragon}} who obeyed Anderson's every order. Some of their atrocities could be considered {{Nightmare Fuel}}: [[spoiler:decapitating a soldier, cutting his genitalia off, stuffing it in his mouth, and then arranging the corpse so it's sitting up holding it's own head. All this in front of a troop of soldiers about to executed.]]

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* {{Expy}}: Black John is based on the historical "Bloody Bill" Anderson and Pitt is based on "Little Archie" Clements. Anderson rode with Quantrill until the deaths of his sisters, after which he became a blood thirsty pyschopath who killed anyone in union blue. Archie was his {{Dragon}} TheDragon who obeyed Anderson's every order. Some of their atrocities could be considered {{Nightmare Fuel}}: [[spoiler:decapitating a soldier, cutting his genitalia off, stuffing it in his mouth, and then arranging the corpse so it's sitting up holding it's own head. All this in front of a troop of soldiers about to executed.]]
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A 1999 civil war drama directed by Creator/AngLee. Based on the book "Woe To Live One" by Daniel Woodrell. Follows friends, Jake Roedel (TobeyMaguire) and Jack Bull Chiles (SkeetUlrich), as they fight with Quantrill's band of raiders during the Civil War.
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* TheAmericanCivilWar: Kansas and Missouri, 1861-1865.
* AndThisIsFor...: Right before they attack Lawrence, Quantrill makes a rousing speech to the men, telling them to remember [[spoiler:their female relatives who died in the collapse of a Kansas City jail.]] "To Lawrence!"
* AntebellumAmerica: The beginning of the movie is set right before the start of the war.
* AttackAttackAttack: Both sides during the retreat from Lawrence.
* AxCrazy: Black John, after her learns of the death of his sisters.
* BigBad: The Jayhawkers or Quantrill and company, based on whose side your on.
* BlackBestFriend / TokenMinority: Holt, George Clyde's freed slave. Woe to anyone who insults Holt in front of Clyde.
* {{Expy}}: Black John is based on the historical "Bloody Bill" Anderson and Pitt is based on "Little Archie" Clements. Anderson rode with Quantrill until the deaths of his sisters, after which he became a blood thirsty pyschopath who killed anyone in union blue. Archie was his {{Dragon}} who obeyed Anderson's every order. Some of their atrocities could be considered {{Nightmare Fuel}}: [[spoiler:decapitating a soldier, cutting his genitalia off, stuffing it in his mouth, and then arranging the corpse so it's sitting up holding it's own head. All this in front of a troop of soldiers about to executed.]]
* GoryDiscretionShot: [[spoiler:Jack Bull's leg amputation]]
* OneSteveLimit: Averted with the two main characters.
* ShotgunWedding
* SomeoneToRememberHimBy: [[spoiler:Jack Bull's daughter with Sue Lee.]]
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