History Film / InglouriousBasterds

25th Feb '17 1:07:45 PM nombretomado
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-->-- '''[[BradPitt Lt. Aldo Raine]]'''

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* WorldOfHam: Oh come on! We have BradPitt, UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler, and a lot more out there.

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* WorldOfHam: Oh come on! We have BradPitt, Creator/BradPitt, UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler, and a lot more out there.
21st Feb '17 10:04:12 PM Terran117
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: The scene where Nazi High Command [[spoiler: desperately tries to escape a burning cinema, only to encounter locked doors and machine gun fire, are reminiscent of Jews dying in gas chambers. Especially better since the people who plotted their deaths were mostly Jews.]]
3rd Feb '17 9:26:36 AM LtFedora
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* Critical Research Failure: In-Universe. Hicox was not ready to go on a spy mission. He was fluent in German, but not flawless and as a result his accent was easily spotted by an untrained enlisted man. Likewise he did not know to watch for certain tell-tale mannerisms and was ultimately undone by using the wrong gesture for three. He also is noticeably uneasy and impatient at the meeting in the tavern. Compare this to Bridget who is very relaxed. Granted she did not have to worry about passing for German. But she knew to be friendly with everyone around here and act like she was just out for a drink with old friends as opposed to acting like it was a serious meeting. She even tells them how suspicious it would be if they met in a bar and didn't have a drink. However this is all justified as British high command recognized that they had a golden opportunity to take out the entire German high command, but only a short time to prepare for it. An Lt. who speaks fluent German and is well versed in German Cinema was the best option they had at such short notice and had a group of soldiers, and the SS officer watching over them, not been at the tavern they likely would've been fine.

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* Critical Research Failure: CriticalResearchFailure: In-Universe. Hicox was not ready to go on a spy mission. He was fluent in German, but not flawless and as a result his accent was easily spotted by an untrained enlisted man. Likewise he did not know to watch for certain tell-tale mannerisms and was ultimately undone by using the wrong gesture for three. He also is noticeably uneasy and impatient at the meeting in the tavern. Compare this to Bridget who is very relaxed. Granted she did not have to worry about passing for German. But she knew to be friendly with everyone around here and act like she was just out for a drink with old friends as opposed to acting like it was a serious meeting. She even tells them how suspicious it would be if they met in a bar and didn't have a drink. However this is all justified as British high command recognized that they had a golden opportunity to take out the entire German high command, but only a short time to prepare for it. An Lt. who speaks fluent German and is well versed in German Cinema was the best option they had at such short notice and had a group of soldiers, and the SS officer watching over them, not been at the tavern they likely would've been fine.
3rd Feb '17 9:25:53 AM LtFedora
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* Critical Research Failure: In-Universe. Hickox was not ready to go on a spy mission. He was fluent in German, but not flawless and as a result his accent was easily spotted by an untrained enlisted man. Likewise he did not know to watch for certain tell-tale mannerisms and was ultimately undone by using the wrong gesture for three. He also is noticeably uneasy and impatient at the meeting in the tavern. Compare this to Bridget who is very relaxed. Granted she did not have to worry about passing for German. But she knew to be friendly with everyone around here and act like she was just out for a drink with old friends as opposed to acting like it was a serious meeting. She even tells them how suspicious it would be if they met in a bar and didn't have a drink. However this is all justified as British high command recognized that they had a golden opportunity to take out the entire German high command, but only a short time to prepare for it. An Lt. who speaks fluent German and is well versed in German Cinema was the best option they had at such short notice and had a group of soldiers, and the SS officer watching over them, not been at the tavern they likely would've been fine.

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* Critical Research Failure: In-Universe. Hickox Hicox was not ready to go on a spy mission. He was fluent in German, but not flawless and as a result his accent was easily spotted by an untrained enlisted man. Likewise he did not know to watch for certain tell-tale mannerisms and was ultimately undone by using the wrong gesture for three. He also is noticeably uneasy and impatient at the meeting in the tavern. Compare this to Bridget who is very relaxed. Granted she did not have to worry about passing for German. But she knew to be friendly with everyone around here and act like she was just out for a drink with old friends as opposed to acting like it was a serious meeting. She even tells them how suspicious it would be if they met in a bar and didn't have a drink. However this is all justified as British high command recognized that they had a golden opportunity to take out the entire German high command, but only a short time to prepare for it. An Lt. who speaks fluent German and is well versed in German Cinema was the best option they had at such short notice and had a group of soldiers, and the SS officer watching over them, not been at the tavern they likely would've been fine.



** The spy-busting techniques are very accurate. Hickox being suspicious due to his accent and then giving himself away by using the British gesture for three would've been pretty far-fetched in any other movie. But other spies are trained to look very carefully for such minor details which are so ingrained into our cultural brains. German spies had it even tougher since they had to learn proper accents, dialects, phrases, and mannerisms for Americans, British, Irish, Australian, Canadian, etc. English-speakers. It was very easy for a German spy to say "lift" instead of "elevator" around a group of Americans. Or "loo" instead of "washroom" around a bunch of Canadians.

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** The spy-busting techniques are very accurate. Hickox Hicox being suspicious due to his accent and then giving himself away by using the British gesture for three would've been pretty far-fetched in any other movie. But other spies are trained to look very carefully for such minor details which are so ingrained into our cultural brains. German spies had it even tougher since they had to learn proper accents, dialects, phrases, and mannerisms for Americans, British, Irish, Australian, Canadian, etc. English-speakers. It was very easy for a German spy to say "lift" instead of "elevator" around a group of Americans. Or "loo" instead of "washroom" around a bunch of Canadians.
31st Jan '17 11:25:55 AM teachzebra
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* Critical Research Failure: In-Universe. Hickox was not ready to go on a spy mission. He was fluent in German, but not flawless and as a result his accent was easily spotted by an untrained enlisted man. Likewise he did not know to watch for certain tell-tale mannerisms and was ultimately undone by using the wrong gesture for three. He also is noticeably uneasy and impatient at the meeting in the tavern. Compare this to Bridget who is very relaxed. Granted she did not have to worry about passing for German. But she knew to be friendly with everyone around here and act like she was just out for a drink with old friends as opposed to acting like it was a serious meeting. She even tells them how suspicious it would be if they met in a bar and didn't have a drink. However this is all justified as British high command recognized that they had a golden opportunity to take out the entire German high command, but only a short time to prepare for it. An Lt. who speaks fluent German and is well versed in German Cinema was the best option they had at such short notice and had a group of soldiers, and the SS officer watching over them, not been at the tavern they likely would've been fine.


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** The spy-busting techniques are very accurate. Hickox being suspicious due to his accent and then giving himself away by using the British gesture for three would've been pretty far-fetched in any other movie. But other spies are trained to look very carefully for such minor details which are so ingrained into our cultural brains. German spies had it even tougher since they had to learn proper accents, dialects, phrases, and mannerisms for Americans, British, Irish, Australian, Canadian, etc. English-speakers. It was very easy for a German spy to say "lift" instead of "elevator" around a group of Americans. Or "loo" instead of "washroom" around a bunch of Canadians.
28th Jan '17 4:35:12 PM shamblingdead2
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* CreatorCameo: Tarantino's head is the first one seen being actively scalped in the film and his hands can be seen in Chapter 5 doubling for Christoph Waltz's (See InsertCameo).

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* CreatorCameo: Tarantino's head is the first one seen being actively scalped in the film and his hands can be seen in Chapter 5 doubling for Christoph Waltz's (See InsertCameo). He also plays an American soldier in the Nation's Pride film.
28th Jan '17 4:26:09 PM shamblingdead2
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** On the other hand, Shosanna's plan was somewhat poorly thought out: while she has trapped the bulk of the audience in the burning auditorium, it is very likely that [[spoiler: Hitler and his men would have escaped from the opera box, especially with the aid of the two armed guards shooting out the glass door that would be the only thing between them and freedom. Had the Basterds not killed Hitler, he would have escaped;]] and in fact had the Basterds not opened fire on the panicked auditorium then the bulk of them would have likely broken down the doors through sheer numbers. The Basterds' plan was entirely independent of Shosanna's ''[[spoiler: and killed Hitler with more finality minutes before the exploding cinema could have done that.]]''

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** On the other hand, Shosanna's plan was somewhat poorly thought out: while she has trapped the bulk of the audience in the burning auditorium, it is very likely that [[spoiler: Hitler and his men would have escaped from the opera box, especially with the aid of the two armed guards shooting out the glass door that would be the only thing between them and freedom. Had the Basterds not killed Hitler, he would have escaped;]] and in fact had the Basterds not opened fire on the panicked auditorium then the bulk of them would have likely broken down the doors through sheer numbers.numbers (or found the stage door Marcel left open). The Basterds' plan was entirely independent of Shosanna's ''[[spoiler: and killed Hitler with more finality minutes before the exploding cinema could have done that.]]''
26th Jan '17 1:42:32 PM shamblingdead2
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* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: Hugo Stiglitz killed 13 Gestapo officers, then was broken free by the Basterds. His picture was already shown on the newspaper seen in the film, so unless the Gestapo hushed his breakout up to avoid embarassment (and you'd assume they'd be care more for their own skin than the embarassment, given his Gestapo-killing tendencies), his face would be on wanted posters - the military would at least be on a lookout for him, if not the general populace (and even then the Gestapo may have weighed up embarassment-versus-survival and told them too). With all this in mind, he walks into a bar full of German soldiers (and one SS who sits down with him and refers to him directly when talking about accents) and no one recognises him. And this is on top of Sergeant Rachtmann's assertion that 'everyone in the German army has heard of Hugo Stiglitz'.

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** Four, if you count [[spoiler: Marcel. Although he's not shown leaving the cinema, he enters via the back door to set the fire, leaving it open and presumably exiting the same way. Also counts as an inversion of BlackDudeDiesFirst]].
* ArtisticLicenseMilitary: Hugo Stiglitz killed 13 Gestapo officers, then was broken free by the Basterds. His picture was already shown on the newspaper seen in the film, so unless the Gestapo hushed his breakout up to avoid embarassment (and you'd assume they'd be care more for their own skin than the embarassment, embarrassment, given his Gestapo-killing tendencies), his face would be on wanted posters - the military would at least be on a lookout for him, if not the general populace (and even then the Gestapo may have weighed up embarassment-versus-survival embarrassment-versus-survival and told them too). With all this in mind, he walks into a bar full of German soldiers (and one SS who sits down with him and refers to him directly when talking about accents) and no one recognises him. And this is on top of Sergeant Rachtmann's assertion that 'everyone in the German army has heard of Hugo Stiglitz'.


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--> [[spoiler: Shoshana]]: I have a message to Germany: that you are all going to die.
23rd Jan '17 9:49:05 PM creader
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22nd Jan '17 11:37:48 PM BohemianBob43
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* LeaningOnTheFourthWall: The very last scene, after Aldo [[spoiler:carves the swastika into Landa's forehead]], he comments to Utivich that "this might just be [his] masterpiece". This could be interpreted as him, or more likely Tarantino himself, referring to the movie instead.
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