History Film / BlackDeath

22nd Nov '15 1:37:02 AM ColeNichols
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* FaceDeathWithDignity: [[spoiler: Ulric]].
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* FaceDeathWithDignity: [[spoiler: Ulric]].Ulric and Swire]].
4th Nov '15 7:30:52 PM Fireblood
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* HollywoodAtheist: Hob, (and possibly the other villagers) who declares there is in God, heaven or hell. His work is performing {{human sacrifice}}s of Christians that refuse to give up their faith ([[MortonsFork though those who do are still killed out of view]]). Langiva may be one too, as Hob is her follower, although her speech is more ambiguous between this and [[NayTheist denouncing God]] [[GodIsEvil as evil]].
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* HollywoodAtheist: Hob, (and possibly the other villagers) who declares there is in no God, heaven or hell. His work is performing {{human sacrifice}}s of Christians that refuse to give up their faith ([[MortonsFork though those who do are still killed out of view]]). Langiva may be one too, as Hob is her follower, although her speech is more ambiguous between this and [[NayTheist denouncing God]] [[GodIsEvil as evil]].
24th Aug '15 3:25:13 AM Fireblood
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* HollywoodAtheist: Hob, (and possibly the other villagers) who declares there is in God, heaven or hell. His work is performing {{human sacrifice}}s of Christians that refuse to give up their faith ([[MortonsFork though those who do are still killed]]). Langiva may be one too, as Hob is her follower, although her speech is more ambiguous between this and [[NayTheist denouncing God]] [[GodIsEvil as evil]].
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* HollywoodAtheist: Hob, (and possibly the other villagers) who declares there is in God, heaven or hell. His work is performing {{human sacrifice}}s of Christians that refuse to give up their faith ([[MortonsFork though those who do are still killed]]).killed out of view]]). Langiva may be one too, as Hob is her follower, although her speech is more ambiguous between this and [[NayTheist denouncing God]] [[GodIsEvil as evil]].
24th Aug '15 3:22:55 AM Fireblood
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* HollywoodAtheist: Hob, (and possibly the other villagers) who declares there is in God, heaven or hell. His work is performing {{human sacrifice}}s of Christians that refuse to give up their faith ([[MortonsFork though those who do are still killed]]). Langiva may be one too, as Hob is her follower, although her dialogue comes more ambiguous between this and [[NayTheist denouncing God]] [[GodIsEvil as evil]].
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* HollywoodAtheist: Hob, (and possibly the other villagers) who declares there is in God, heaven or hell. His work is performing {{human sacrifice}}s of Christians that refuse to give up their faith ([[MortonsFork though those who do are still killed]]). Langiva may be one too, as Hob is her follower, although her dialogue comes speech is more ambiguous between this and [[NayTheist denouncing God]] [[GodIsEvil as evil]].
24th Aug '15 3:22:08 AM Fireblood
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* HollywoodAtheist: Hob, (and possibly the other villagers) who declares there is in God, heaven or hell. His work is performing {{human sacrifice}}s of Christians that refuse to give up their faith. Langiva may be one too, as Hob is her follower, although her dialogue comes more ambiguous between this and simply [[NayTheist denouncing God]] [[GodIsEvil as evil]].
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* HollywoodAtheist: Hob, (and possibly the other villagers) who declares there is in God, heaven or hell. His work is performing {{human sacrifice}}s of Christians that refuse to give up their faith. faith ([[MortonsFork though those who do are still killed]]). Langiva may be one too, as Hob is her follower, although her dialogue comes more ambiguous between this and simply [[NayTheist denouncing God]] [[GodIsEvil as evil]].
24th Aug '15 3:18:55 AM Fireblood
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* BloodFromTheMouth: The symptom indicating that [[spoiler: Griff has been infected]]. {{Subverted}} in that, he [[spoiler: doesn't die but is [[MercyKill finished off by his friend]].]]
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* BloodFromTheMouth: The symptom indicating that [[spoiler: Griff has been infected]]. {{Subverted}} in that, that he [[spoiler: doesn't die but is [[MercyKill finished off by his friend]].]]
24th Aug '15 3:18:23 AM Fireblood
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* ArtisticLicense: While otherwise historically accurate, the fundamental premise is wrong: Witch-hunts did not become a common phenomenon in Europe until a hundred years later. The usual culprits during the black death were the Jews, who were long before suspected of poisoning wells and spreading diseases among Christendom. On the other hand, outright heretics like the villagers would have been killed indeed, regardless of whether they practiced witchcraft or not.
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* ArtisticLicense: While otherwise historically accurate, the fundamental premise is wrong: Witch-hunts did not become a common phenomenon in Europe until a hundred years later. The usual culprits during the black death were the Jews, who were long before suspected of poisoning wells and spreading diseases among Christendom. On the other hand, outright heretics apostates like the villagers would have been killed indeed, regardless of whether they practiced witchcraft or not.not. It's also very unlikely any person at the time would disbelieve in God.

* TheHeretic: A whole village filled with them.

* HollywoodAtheist: Hob, (and possibly the other villagers) who doesn't believe in God, heaven or hell. His work is performing {{human sacrifice}}s of Christians that refuse to give up their faith for the witch Langiva.
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* HollywoodAtheist: Hob, (and possibly the other villagers) who doesn't believe declares there is in God, heaven or hell. His work is performing {{human sacrifice}}s of Christians that refuse to give up their faith for the witch Langiva.faith. Langiva may be one too, as Hob is her follower, although her dialogue comes more ambiguous between this and simply [[NayTheist denouncing God]] [[GodIsEvil as evil]].

* SlutShaming: The men try this on Langiva, screaming "whore" when she presides over their captivity, even though she's done nothing even ''remotely'' sexual in her treatment of them, or anyone else for that matter (in fact, there's no sex or even nudity in the film, period).
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* SlutShaming: The men try this on Langiva, screaming "whore" when she presides over their captivity, even though she's done nothing even ''remotely'' sexual in her treatment of them, or anyone else for that matter (in fact, there's no sex or even nudity in the film, period). Most likely it's just a go-to insult toward any woman in that era.

* TheUnsolvedMystery: The whole thing. Was Langiva protecting the village from the plague, or was it just isolated? Was Averill brought back from the dead, brought from the brink of death with brain damage, or was she just drugged? Even the epilogue ends on an ambiguous note: is Osmund seeing Langiva's faces in every woman because of her magical abilities, or is it just his own impending madness?
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* TheUnsolvedMystery: The whole thing. Was Langiva protecting the village from the plague, or was it just isolated? Was Averill brought back from the dead, brought from the brink of death with brain damage, or was she just drugged? Even the epilogue ends on an ambiguous note: is Osmund seeing Langiva's faces in every woman because of her magical abilities, she really has magic she's using on him, or is it just his own impending madness?simply that he's delusional?
24th Aug '15 3:07:07 AM Fireblood
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* ArtisticLicense: While otherwise historically accurate, the fundamental premise is wrong: Witch-hunts did not become a common phenomenon in Europe until a hundred years later. The usual culprits during the black death were the jews, who were long before suspected of poisoning wells and spreading diseases among Christendom. On the other hand, outright heretics like the villagers would have been killed indeed, regardless of whether they practiced witchcraft or not.
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* ArtisticLicense: While otherwise historically accurate, the fundamental premise is wrong: Witch-hunts did not become a common phenomenon in Europe until a hundred years later. The usual culprits during the black death were the jews, Jews, who were long before suspected of poisoning wells and spreading diseases among Christendom. On the other hand, outright heretics like the villagers would have been killed indeed, regardless of whether they practiced witchcraft or not.

* TheBlackDeath [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin obviously]].
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* TheBlackDeath TheBlackDeath: [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin obviously]].Obviously]].

* BloodFromTheMouth: The symptom indicating that [[spoiler: Griff has been infected]]. Subverted in that, he [[spoiler: doesn't die but is [[MercyKill finished off by his friend]].]]
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* BloodFromTheMouth: The symptom indicating that [[spoiler: Griff has been infected]]. Subverted {{Subverted}} in that, he [[spoiler: doesn't die but is [[MercyKill finished off by his friend]].]]

* CelibateHero: Averted. Even though Osmund is a monk, he secretly has a lover.
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* CelibateHero: Averted.{{Averted}}. Even though Osmund is a monk, he secretly has a lover.

* ChristianityIsCatholic: Justified in that this is fourteenth century England.
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* ChristianityIsCatholic: Justified [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in that this is fourteenth century England.

* CruelAndUnusualDeath: [[spoiler: Ulric's death (torn apart by horses)]] is horrific. Such punishment or its equivalent was historically reserved only for [[spoiler: grand treason and regicide]] mainly because it was considered extremely cruel.
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* CruelAndUnusualDeath: [[spoiler: Ulric's death (torn apart by horses)]] is horrific. Such punishment or its equivalent was historically reserved only for [[spoiler: grand high treason and regicide]] mainly because it was considered extremely cruel.

* TheFinalTemptation: Played with. Osmund's scene with Averill in the barn is described as such, but it turns out that it may have been something else altogether.
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* TheFinalTemptation: Played with.{{Played with}}. Osmund's scene with Averill in the barn is described as such, but it turns out that it may have been something else altogether.

** ...bordering on BlackAndBlackMorality on all sides.
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** ...bordering Bordering on BlackAndBlackMorality on all sides.

* HumanSacrifice: Not played entirely straight, as [[spoiler: the "witch" knows full well she cannot perform magic and only kills people to keep the villagers in line. Perhaps, witches lie and we can never be quite sure of what exactly Langiva does is magic or chemistry, if she was a true witch then lying to Osmund then she contributed to his corruption, a witchy goal.]]. * IdiotBall: [[spoiler: The knights deeply distrust the villagers, know their leader knows her way with herbs and still drink and eat what they offer]].
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* HollywoodAtheist: Hob, (and possibly the other villagers) who doesn't believe in God, heaven or hell. His work is performing {{human sacrifice}}s of Christians that refuse to give up their faith for the witch Langiva. * HumanSacrifice: Not played entirely straight, as [[spoiler: the "witch" knows full well she cannot perform magic and only kills people to keep the villagers in line. Perhaps, Perhaps witches lie and we can never be quite sure of what exactly Langiva does is magic or chemistry, if chemistry. If she was a true witch then by lying to Osmund then she contributed to his corruption, a witchy goal.goal one would expect.]]. * IdiotBall: [[spoiler: The knights deeply distrust the villagers, know their leader knows her way with herbs herbs, and still drink and eat what they offer]].

* KnightTemplar: Ulric. [[spoiler: Later, Osmund.]]
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* KnightTemplar: Ulric. [[spoiler: Later, Osmund.Later Osmund as well.]]

** [[spoiler: Wolfstan]] gives one to [[spoiler: Griff when he reveals that he's got the plague]]. Characters also discuss the use of misericorde at the battlefield.
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** [[spoiler: Wolfstan]] gives one to [[spoiler: Griff when he reveals that he's got the plague]]. Characters also discuss the use of misericorde at on the battlefield.

* RagtagBandOfMisfits: Ulric's retinue consists of [[ShellShockedVeteran two war veterans]], [[TheSpeechless mute soldier]], [[PsychoForHire crazed murderer]], [[TortureTechnician professional executioner]] and [[OnlyInItForTheMoney a mercenary]]. * TheOphelia: [[spoiler: subverted in that Averill was drugged, perhaps]].
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* RagtagBandOfMisfits: Ulric's retinue consists of [[ShellShockedVeteran two war veterans]], a [[TheSpeechless mute soldier]], a [[PsychoForHire crazed murderer]], a [[TortureTechnician professional executioner]] executioner/torturer]] and [[OnlyInItForTheMoney a mercenary]]. * TheOphelia: [[spoiler: subverted Subverted in that Averill was drugged, perhaps]].

* SecretlyDying: [[spoiler: Ulric]]
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* SecretlyDying: [[spoiler: Ulric]]Ulric.]]

* ShootTheShaggyDog: [[spoiler: The group arrives to the village and discover the inhabitants are actually pagans. They are then drugged and when they wake up the whole group is killed off one by one in horrific ways and Osmund is tricked into killing his lover. In the end only Osmund and one other member of the party survive with Osmund's faith horrible shaken.]] We then discover that [[spoiler: the whole film was probably Osmund's StartOfDarkness as we get an epilogue showing that Osmund abandoned being a monk to search the land for the main witch, torturing and killing any girl that looks like her, and even ones that definitely ''don't'']].
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* ShootTheShaggyDog: [[spoiler: The group arrives to the village and discover the inhabitants are actually pagans.heretics. They are then drugged and when they wake up the whole group is killed off one by one in horrific ways and Osmund is tricked into killing his lover. In the end only Osmund and one other member of the party survive survive, with Osmund's faith horrible shaken.]] We then discover that [[spoiler: the whole film was probably Osmund's StartOfDarkness as we get an epilogue showing that Osmund abandoned being a monk to search the land for the main witch, torturing and killing any girl that looks like her, and even ones that definitely ''don't'']].

* WhatASenselessWasteOfHumanLife: The whole damn thing, whether people are dying from [[http://www.alluc.com/stream/Black+Death TheBlackDeath]] or the [[WitchHunt Witch Hunts]] that follow.
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* WhatASenselessWasteOfHumanLife: The whole damn thing, whether people are dying from [[http://www.alluc.com/stream/Black+Death TheBlackDeath]] TheBlackDeath or the [[WitchHunt Witch Hunts]] {{WitchHunt}}s that follow.
19th Apr '15 4:19:01 PM charicestein
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* WhatASenselessWasteOfHumanLife: The whole damn thing, whether people are dying from TheBlackDeath or the [[WitchHunt Witch Hunts]] that follow.
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* WhatASenselessWasteOfHumanLife: The whole damn thing, whether people are dying from TheBlackDeath [[http://www.alluc.com/stream/Black+Death TheBlackDeath]] or the [[WitchHunt Witch Hunts]] that follow.
3rd Feb '15 3:59:59 PM Wanderhome
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* CrapsackWorld: If the plague doesn't get you the bandits or the witch-burners will.
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* CrapsackWorld: If the plague doesn't get you the bandits or the witch-burners will. And if the witch hunters from the Church don't get you, [[GrayAndGrayMorality the witches and their heretical followers might]]. You just can't win.
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