History Film / BlackDeath

8th Jun '16 7:40:45 PM TheBigBopper
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* HollywoodCostuming: Sticklers will have a field day, again courtesy of Lindybeige. The usual ahistorical studded leather bondage gear that's supposed to be leather "armor" is present. You can see modern materials and fasteners such as pop-rivets on some costumes, and knitted fabric painted to look like chain mail.

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* HollywoodCostuming: Sticklers will have a field day, again courtesy of Lindybeige.WebVideo/{{Lindybeige}}. The usual ahistorical studded leather bondage gear that's supposed to be leather "armor" is present. You can see modern materials and fasteners such as pop-rivets on some costumes, and knitted fabric painted to look like chain mail.
9th Mar '16 1:55:59 PM TheBigBopper
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** In real life, plague doctors didn't start wearing those masks with a bird beak to hold herbs until the 16th century.

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** In real life, plague doctors didn't start wearing those masks with a bird beak to hold herbs until the 16th 17th century.
4th Mar '16 9:51:22 AM Morgenthaler
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''Black Death'' is a 2010 movie from Christopher Smith (director of ''Film/{{Creep}}'', ''Film/{{Severance}}'' and ''Film/{{Triangle}}''), starring Creator/SeanBean, Eddie Redmayne and Creator/CariceVanHouten.

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''Black Death'' is a 2010 movie from Christopher Smith (director of ''Film/{{Creep}}'', ''Film/{{Creep 2004}}'', ''Film/{{Severance}}'' and ''Film/{{Triangle}}''), starring Creator/SeanBean, Eddie Redmayne and Creator/CariceVanHouten.
27th Feb '16 2:50:16 PM TheBigBopper
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** The tapestries in the abbey look old and faded like they do in museums today, but back then they would have looked brand new.
27th Feb '16 2:47:40 PM TheBigBopper
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* TheDungAges: During most of the scenes you can practically feel the dirt under your fingernails. You can certainly see it on the characters! Even individuals whose social status or occupation would require that they be well-dressed and groomed look very scruffy and disheveled.

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* TheDungAges: During most of the scenes you can practically feel the dirt under your fingernails. You can certainly see it on the characters! Even individuals whose social status or occupation would require that they be well-dressed and groomed look very scruffy and disheveled. A monastery with so little religoius decoration would also be unthinkable.



* RealIsBrown: Folks of all conditions are depicted wearing very drab clothing, and the monastery is shown as bare-walled and austere, whereas real-life medieval people were fond of colorful clothes and filled the insides of their religious buildings with painting.

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* RealIsBrown: Folks of all conditions are depicted wearing very drab clothing, and the monastery is shown as bare-walled and austere, whereas real-life medieval people were fond of colorful clothes and filled the insides of their religious buildings with painting. You'd think they'd at least put some paint and gold on the crucifix, they're Catholic for God's sake!
27th Feb '16 2:46:09 PM TheBigBopper
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** The abbot says that Osmund is a mere novice, but it's rather implausible that Osmund would still be a novice at his age. Granted, it took four or five years to become a monk, but those given to the church would have become novices when they were perhaps seven. A monk would be qualified to hear someone's confession, but not a novice. People also talk about friars and monks as if they're synonymous, when it's as big as the difference between a policeman and a fireman.

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** The abbot says that Osmund is a mere novice, but it's rather implausible that Osmund would still be a novice at his age. Granted, it took four or five years to become a monk, but those given to the church would have become novices when they were perhaps seven. seven.
** Osmund must have the smallest tonsure (shaved crown) and the largest monks' cell in Christendom.
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A monk would be qualified to hear someone's confession, but not a novice. People also talk about friars and monks as if they're synonymous, when it's as big as the difference between a policeman and a fireman.
27th Feb '16 2:43:53 PM TheBigBopper
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** In real life, plague doctors didn't start wearing those masks with a bird beak to hold herbs until the 16th century.



* HollywoodTorches: Like a lot of movies, this one has an unrealistic amount of lighting by wastefully constantly burning torches.



* TheOphelia: [[spoiler: Subverted in that Averill was drugged, perhaps]].



* TheOphelia: [[spoiler: Subverted in that Averill was drugged, perhaps]].

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* TheOphelia: [[spoiler: Subverted in that Averill was drugged, perhaps]].RealIsBrown: Folks of all conditions are depicted wearing very drab clothing, and the monastery is shown as bare-walled and austere, whereas real-life medieval people were fond of colorful clothes and filled the insides of their religious buildings with painting.
27th Feb '16 2:37:30 PM TheBigBopper
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** One scene takes place in a forest with suspiciously homogeneous, straight-growing trees, a manicured tree line, and stumps that were obviously cut with saws. The reason is that it's filmed in a modern German timber forest.
27th Feb '16 2:34:31 PM TheBigBopper
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* ArtisticLicense: While otherwise historically accurate, the fundamental premise is wrong: Witch-hunts did not become a common phenomenon in Europe until a hundred years later. The usual culprits during the black death were the Jews, who were long before suspected of poisoning wells and spreading diseases among Christendom. On the other hand, outright apostates like the villagers would have been killed indeed, regardless of whether they practiced witchcraft or not. It's also very unlikely any person at the time would disbelieve in God.

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* ArtisticLicense: While otherwise historically accurate, AnachronismStew: The year is clearly stated to be 1348, which makes several things out of place:
** In 1348,
the fundamental premise is wrong: Black Death had only just begun infiltrating England. The existence of a village untouched by the pestilence would not be as remarkable as it would be one or two years later when the whole country was infested.
** Mold uses a type of saw-toothed "sword-breaker" dagger that didn't exist until the 17th century.
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Witch-hunts did not become a common phenomenon in Europe until a hundred years later. the 15th century. The usual culprits scapegoats during the 14th century black death were the Jews, who were long before suspected of poisoning wells and spreading diseases among Christendom. On the other hand, outright apostates like the villagers would have been killed indeed, regardless of whether they practiced witchcraft or not. It's also very unlikely any person at the time would completely disbelieve in God.God.
** The abbot says that Osmund is a mere novice, but it's rather implausible that Osmund would still be a novice at his age. Granted, it took four or five years to become a monk, but those given to the church would have become novices when they were perhaps seven. A monk would be qualified to hear someone's confession, but not a novice. People also talk about friars and monks as if they're synonymous, when it's as big as the difference between a policeman and a fireman.
** Nobody in the 14th century would refer to a man Osmund's age (the actor was 27 at the time, [[OlderThanTheyLook and could pass for 18 at best]]) as a boy, since the concept of adolescence didn't really exist yet and males were considered to be legal adults after age twelve or so.



* AwesomeButImpractical: The saw-toothed short sword wielded by Mold would get stuck in someone's ribcage; not what you'd want to happen during a melee. However, short, similarly notched daggers called sword-breakers were present during the period, usually as a main-gauche in place of a parrying dagger. The notches are meant to catch an opponent's blade in order to follow up with the main weapon.



* TheDungAges: A believable version of this trope. The village is suspiciously idyllic, but during most of the other scenes you can practically feel the dirt under your fingernails.

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* TheDungAges: A believable version of this trope. The village is suspiciously idyllic, but during During most of the other scenes you can practically feel the dirt under your fingernails.fingernails. You can certainly see it on the characters! Even individuals whose social status or occupation would require that they be well-dressed and groomed look very scruffy and disheveled.


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* HollywoodCostuming: Sticklers will have a field day, again courtesy of Lindybeige. The usual ahistorical studded leather bondage gear that's supposed to be leather "armor" is present. You can see modern materials and fasteners such as pop-rivets on some costumes, and knitted fabric painted to look like chain mail.
11th Feb '16 5:59:10 PM Fireblood
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In 1348 the Bubonic Plague sweeps through England. Frightened, many people blame witches or their own sins. Osmund, a novice in a monastery volunteers to guide knight Ulric and his men to a village, which the plague has not reached at all and is therefore suspect. What the knights do not know is that Osmund volunteered to have a chance to see his girl.

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In 1348 the Bubonic Plague sweeps through England. Frightened, many people blame witches or their own sins. Osmund, a novice in a monastery monastery, volunteers to guide knight Ulric and his men to a village, which the plague has not reached at all and is therefore suspect. What the knights do not know is that Osmund volunteered to have a chance to see his girl.



* AFatherToHisMen: Wolfstan

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* AFatherToHisMen: WolfstanWolfstan.



* TheAtoner: [[spoiler: Ulric probably. As it is likely that he had been at the battle of Crecy, where their opponents had been slaughtered instead of being given a mercy strike. He does give one to the woman accused of being a witch]].

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* TheAtoner: [[spoiler: Ulric probably. As probably, as it is likely that he had been at the battle of Crecy, where their opponents had been slaughtered instead of being given a mercy strike. He does give one to the woman accused of being a witch]].



* CruelAndUnusualDeath: [[spoiler: Ulric's death (torn apart by horses)]] is horrific. Such punishment or its equivalent was historically reserved only for [[spoiler: high treason and regicide]] mainly because it was considered extremely cruel.

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* CruelAndUnusualDeath: [[spoiler: Ulric's death (torn apart by horses)]] is horrific. Such punishment or its equivalent was historically reserved only for [[spoiler: high treason and regicide]] regicide, mainly because it was considered extremely cruel.



** Ulrich claimed that he killed the accused witch quickly in order to prevent her from [[BurnTheWitch death by burning]] - a far worse fate.

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** Ulrich claimed that he killed the accused witch quickly in order to prevent spare her from [[BurnTheWitch death by burning]] - a far worse fate.



* NothingIsScarier: [[spoiler: No demons, no witchcraft (maybe), just people turning on people in times of desperation. The ending is a crushing example of this.]]

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* NothingIsScarier: [[spoiler: No demons, no witchcraft (maybe), just people turning on people each other in times of desperation. The ending is a crushing example of this.]]



* TakingYouWithMe: [[spoiler: Ulric]]

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* TakingYouWithMe: [[spoiler: Ulric]]Ulric]].
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