History EnsembleDarkHorse / Music

16th Aug '17 9:21:01 AM SeptimusHeap
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* [[Music/{{Tommy}} Uncle Ernie]], of all people, has this in spades. Yes, the [[EvilUncle mean]], [[CreepyUncle creepy]] [[TheAlcoholic drunk]] guy who actually ends up [[{{Shotacon}} molesting the titular character]] (and [[FridgeHorror possibly other youngsters]] in "Tommy's Holiday Camp") is the most fan-loved character right after Tommy himself. One could argue that he's popular because the movie version is played by [[Music/TheWho the band's drummer, Keith Moon]], and whoever's playing him usually [[HamAndCheese hams it up for all it's worth]], but still...

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* [[Music/{{Tommy}} Uncle Ernie]], of all people, has this in spades. Yes, the [[EvilUncle mean]], [[CreepyUncle creepy]] [[TheAlcoholic drunk]] guy who actually ends up [[{{Shotacon}} [[PaedoHunt molesting the titular character]] (and [[FridgeHorror possibly other youngsters]] in "Tommy's Holiday Camp") is the most fan-loved character right after Tommy himself. One could argue that he's popular because the movie version is played by [[Music/TheWho the band's drummer, Keith Moon]], and whoever's playing him usually [[HamAndCheese hams it up for all it's worth]], but still...
1st Aug '17 4:17:18 PM ClintEastwood
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** When Queen released their first album, most of the attention they got from the media was focused on Brian May and the fact he made his own guitar (with his father). Freddie Mercury gradually developed both his songwriting and his stage persona to the point that he became the face of the band, at least as far as most of the public was concerned. Bassist John Deacon and drummer Roger Taylor were almost always overshadowed, but they still had their moments: John scored three big hits for the band in 1975, 1980 and 1984, and Roger also wrote some big numbers from 1984 onwards. In fact, a lot (though not all) of the band's big hits from 1980 onwards were by either one of them and by 1989 the band were crediting all song-writing to all four of them, effectively becoming an EnsembleCast. As Mercury himself put it: ''"We are a very competitive group. We are four good writers and there are no passengers."''

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** When Queen Music/{{Queen}} released [[Music/Queen1973 their first album, album]], most of the attention they got from the media was focused on Brian May Music/BrianMay and the fact he made his own guitar (with his father). Freddie Mercury Music/FreddieMercury gradually developed both his songwriting and his stage persona to the point that he became the face of the band, at least as far as most of the public was concerned. Bassist John Deacon and drummer Roger Taylor were almost always overshadowed, but they still had their moments: John scored three big hits for the band in 1975, 1980 and 1984, and Roger also wrote some big numbers from 1984 onwards. In fact, a lot (though not all) of the band's big hits from 1980 onwards were by either one of them and by 1989 the band were crediting all song-writing to all four of them, effectively becoming an EnsembleCast. As Mercury himself put it: ''"We are a very competitive group. We are four good writers and there are no passengers."''



** Music/GeorgeHarrison was arguably the least popular Beatle during the band's run. He was not a part of the singing/songwriting superduo of Lennon-[=McCartney=], nor did he have the charm of Ringo and was known for being [[TheQuietOne quiet and moody]]. However, immediately after the band broke up he was the first of the four to score a #1 hit, and his album ''All Things Must Pass'' is to this day the top selling album by any solo Beatle. His ballad "Something" is also the second most frequently covered Beatles song after "Yesterday," and even John Lennon once remarked, "It's the best damn song on the whole album." Harrison seems to have been well aware of his dark horse status. He had a minor hit with the song "Dark Horse," and his custom record label was called Dark Horse Records.

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** Music/GeorgeHarrison was arguably the least popular Beatle during the band's run. He was not a part of the singing/songwriting superduo of Lennon-[=McCartney=], nor did he have the charm of Ringo and was known for being [[TheQuietOne quiet and moody]]. However, immediately after the band broke up he was the first of the four to score a #1 hit, and his album ''All Things Must Pass'' ''Music/AllThingsMustPass'' is to this day the top selling album by any solo Beatle. His ballad "Something" is also the second most frequently covered Beatles song after "Yesterday," and even John Lennon Music/JohnLennon once remarked, "It's the best damn song on the whole album." Harrison seems to have been well aware of his dark horse status. He had a minor hit with the song "Dark Horse," and his custom record label was called Dark Horse Records.



* Whilst Sting was undoubtedly the [[BreakoutCharacter Breakout Performer]] of Music/ThePolice, drummer Stewart Copeland became the band's Dark Horse. His unique playing style influenced numerous musicians ([[Music/{{Phish}} Trey Anastasio]] and [[Music/{{Primus}} Les Claypool]] have called him a "mutual hero", and Taylor Hawkins has invited him on several Music/FooFighters tours [[SixthRanger to play as a guest drummer]]), and Rolling Stone readers voted him the fifth-greatest drummer of all time in 2010.

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* Whilst Sting Music/{{Sting}} was undoubtedly the [[BreakoutCharacter Breakout Performer]] of Music/ThePolice, drummer Stewart Copeland became the band's Dark Horse. His unique playing style influenced numerous musicians ([[Music/{{Phish}} Trey Anastasio]] and [[Music/{{Primus}} Les Claypool]] have called him a "mutual hero", and Taylor Hawkins has invited him on several Music/FooFighters tours [[SixthRanger to play as a guest drummer]]), and Rolling Stone readers voted him the fifth-greatest drummer of all time in 2010.



** The Acid Queen and the Local Lad/the Champ ([[IAmNotShazam no, he's not the Pinball Wizard]]...[[IAmNotLeonardNimoy he's not Elton John, either]]) have their share of fans, too, despite being [[OneSceneWonder one scene]]/[[OneSongWonder song wonders]] and the latter having little to no effect on the titular character or the plot. Again, this could be partially because their movie counterparts are played by Tina Turner and Music/EltonJohn, respectfully, both of whom were quite popular at the time.

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** The Acid Queen and the Local Lad/the Champ ([[IAmNotShazam no, he's not the Pinball Wizard]]...[[IAmNotLeonardNimoy he's not Elton John, either]]) have their share of fans, too, despite being [[OneSceneWonder one scene]]/[[OneSongWonder song wonders]] and the latter having little to no effect on the titular character or the plot. Again, this could be partially because their movie counterparts are played by Tina Turner Music/TinaTurner and Music/EltonJohn, respectfully, both of whom were quite popular at the time.
6th Jan '17 8:16:58 PM nombretomado
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** [[OnlySaneMan The Doctor]] seems to have a small fanbase as well. This is probably because in the movie he was played by JackNicholson, of all people.

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** [[OnlySaneMan The Doctor]] seems to have a small fanbase as well. This is probably because in the movie he was played by JackNicholson, Creator/JackNicholson, of all people.
5th Oct '16 6:18:00 PM Exxolon
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** When Queen released their first album, most of the attention they got from the media was focused on Brian May and the fact he made his own guitar (with his father). Freddie Mercury gradually developed both his songwriting and his stage persona to the point that he became the face of the band, at least as far as most of the public was concerned. Bassist John Deacon and drummer Roger Taylor were almost always overshadowed, but they still had their moments: John scored three big hits for the band in 1975, 1980 and 1984, and Roger also wrote some big numbers from 1984 onwards. In fact, a lot (though not all) of the band's big hits from 1980 onwards were by either one of them and by 1989 the band were crediting all song-writing to all four of them, effectively becoming an EnsembleCast.

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** When Queen released their first album, most of the attention they got from the media was focused on Brian May and the fact he made his own guitar (with his father). Freddie Mercury gradually developed both his songwriting and his stage persona to the point that he became the face of the band, at least as far as most of the public was concerned. Bassist John Deacon and drummer Roger Taylor were almost always overshadowed, but they still had their moments: John scored three big hits for the band in 1975, 1980 and 1984, and Roger also wrote some big numbers from 1984 onwards. In fact, a lot (though not all) of the band's big hits from 1980 onwards were by either one of them and by 1989 the band were crediting all song-writing to all four of them, effectively becoming an EnsembleCast. As Mercury himself put it: ''"We are a very competitive group. We are four good writers and there are no passengers."''
26th Jul '16 8:02:52 AM Willbyr
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22nd Jan '16 8:53:32 AM Morgenthaler
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* Both Music/RobbieWilliams and Music/BobbyBrown were secondary members of their respective {{boy band}}s, Music/TakeThat and NewEdition, before gaining way more success as solo artists.

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* Both Music/RobbieWilliams and Music/BobbyBrown were secondary members of their respective {{boy band}}s, Music/TakeThat and NewEdition, Music/NewEdition, before gaining way more success as solo artists.
26th Dec '15 6:22:53 PM CJO123
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** Vocaloid's {{Ascended Meme}}s, such as [[SuperDeformed Miku Hachune]], [[EverythingsSquishierWithCephalopods TakoLuka]], [[DrowningMySorrows Haku Yowane]] and [[{{Tsundere}} Neru Akita]] are all pretty popular as well, even overshadowing some official Vocaloids! Some of them don't even have to be ascended, like [[PaletteSwap Akaito]] and Dell Honne.

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** Vocaloid's {{Ascended Meme}}s, such as [[SuperDeformed Miku Hachune]], [[EverythingsSquishierWithCephalopods TakoLuka]], [[DrowningMySorrows Haku Yowane]] and [[{{Tsundere}} Neru Akita]] are all pretty popular as well, well; especially the latter two as their popularity even overshadowing overshadows that of some of the official Vocaloids! Some of them don't even have to be ascended, like [[PaletteSwap Akaito]] and Dell Honne.
17th Aug '15 6:08:38 AM Morgenthaler
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* Music/BoneThugsNHarmony is a group example. As they emerged during a era of hip-hop where you had to be either from the [[HollywoodCalifornia west]] or the [[BigApplesauce east]] to make it in that particular field. Not only did they not hail from either coast, but hailed from the Midwest ({{Cleveland}} to be precise), and managed to have 3 back to back multi platinum records amidst the hype and controversy of the then bi-coastal feud between the east and west.

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* Music/BoneThugsNHarmony is a group example. As they emerged during a era of hip-hop where you had to be either from the [[HollywoodCalifornia west]] or the [[BigApplesauce east]] to make it in that particular field. Not only did they not hail from either coast, but hailed from the Midwest ({{Cleveland}} (UsefulNotes/{{Cleveland}} to be precise), and managed to have 3 back to back multi platinum records amidst the hype and controversy of the then bi-coastal feud between the east and west.
16th Feb '15 4:08:46 PM DuncanHills
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* Fitting perfectly into this trope are bassist and drummer Geezer Butler and Bill Ward of Music/Black Sabbath. With singer Ozzy Osbourne moving on to a successful solo career and international stardom, and guitarist Tony Iommi remembered as the man who invented Music/HeavyMetal, it's easy to overlook the other two. Nevertheless, Geezer actually wrote all of the lyrics for the Ozzy-fronted Sabbath - the dark themes beng arguably what distinguished them from other hard rock bands and spawned the heavy metal genre. Furthermore, critics, fans, and bandmates alike have hailed Bill's prowess on drums ("Sabbath ain't Sabbath without Bill") and to a lesser extent Geezer on bass, and the powerful rhythm section foundation they provided for Tony and Ozzy.

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* Fitting perfectly into this trope are bassist and drummer Geezer Butler and Bill Ward of Music/Black Sabbath.Music/BlackSabbath. With singer Ozzy Osbourne moving on to a successful solo career and international stardom, and guitarist Tony Iommi remembered as the man who invented Music/HeavyMetal, it's easy to overlook the other two. Nevertheless, Geezer actually wrote all of the lyrics for the Ozzy-fronted Sabbath - the dark themes beng arguably what distinguished them from other hard rock bands and spawned the heavy metal genre. Furthermore, critics, fans, and bandmates alike have hailed Bill's prowess on drums ("Sabbath ain't Sabbath without Bill") and to a lesser extent Geezer on bass, and the powerful rhythm section foundation they provided for Tony and Ozzy.
16th Feb '15 4:07:14 PM DuncanHills
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* Fitting perfectly into this trope are bassist and drummer Geezer Butler and Bill Ward of Music/Black Sabbath. With singer Ozzy Osbourne moving on to a successful solo career and international stardom, and guitarist Tony Iommi remembered as the man who invented Music/HeavyMetal, it's easy to overlook the other two. Nevertheless, Geezer actually wrote all of the lyrics for the Ozzy-fronted Sabbath - the dark themes beng arguably what distinguished them from other hard rock bands and spawned the heavy metal genre. Furthermore, critics, fans, and bandmates alike have hailed Bill's prowess on drums ("Sabbath ain't Sabbath without Bill") and to a lesser extent Geezer on bass, and the powerful rhythm section foundation they provided for Tony and Ozzy.
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