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26th Jul '16 8:02:52 AM Willbyr
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22nd Jan '16 8:53:32 AM Morgenthaler
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* Both Music/RobbieWilliams and Music/BobbyBrown were secondary members of their respective {{boy band}}s, Music/TakeThat and NewEdition, before gaining way more success as solo artists.

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* Both Music/RobbieWilliams and Music/BobbyBrown were secondary members of their respective {{boy band}}s, Music/TakeThat and NewEdition, Music/NewEdition, before gaining way more success as solo artists.
26th Dec '15 6:22:53 PM CJO123
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** Vocaloid's {{Ascended Meme}}s, such as [[SuperDeformed Miku Hachune]], [[EverythingsSquishierWithCephalopods TakoLuka]], [[DrowningMySorrows Haku Yowane]] and [[{{Tsundere}} Neru Akita]] are all pretty popular as well, even overshadowing some official Vocaloids! Some of them don't even have to be ascended, like [[PaletteSwap Akaito]] and Dell Honne.

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** Vocaloid's {{Ascended Meme}}s, such as [[SuperDeformed Miku Hachune]], [[EverythingsSquishierWithCephalopods TakoLuka]], [[DrowningMySorrows Haku Yowane]] and [[{{Tsundere}} Neru Akita]] are all pretty popular as well, well; especially the latter two as their popularity even overshadowing overshadows that of some of the official Vocaloids! Some of them don't even have to be ascended, like [[PaletteSwap Akaito]] and Dell Honne.
17th Aug '15 6:08:38 AM Morgenthaler
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* Music/BoneThugsNHarmony is a group example. As they emerged during a era of hip-hop where you had to be either from the [[HollywoodCalifornia west]] or the [[BigApplesauce east]] to make it in that particular field. Not only did they not hail from either coast, but hailed from the Midwest ({{Cleveland}} to be precise), and managed to have 3 back to back multi platinum records amidst the hype and controversy of the then bi-coastal feud between the east and west.

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* Music/BoneThugsNHarmony is a group example. As they emerged during a era of hip-hop where you had to be either from the [[HollywoodCalifornia west]] or the [[BigApplesauce east]] to make it in that particular field. Not only did they not hail from either coast, but hailed from the Midwest ({{Cleveland}} (UsefulNotes/{{Cleveland}} to be precise), and managed to have 3 back to back multi platinum records amidst the hype and controversy of the then bi-coastal feud between the east and west.
16th Feb '15 4:08:46 PM DuncanHills
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* Fitting perfectly into this trope are bassist and drummer Geezer Butler and Bill Ward of Music/Black Sabbath. With singer Ozzy Osbourne moving on to a successful solo career and international stardom, and guitarist Tony Iommi remembered as the man who invented Music/HeavyMetal, it's easy to overlook the other two. Nevertheless, Geezer actually wrote all of the lyrics for the Ozzy-fronted Sabbath - the dark themes beng arguably what distinguished them from other hard rock bands and spawned the heavy metal genre. Furthermore, critics, fans, and bandmates alike have hailed Bill's prowess on drums ("Sabbath ain't Sabbath without Bill") and to a lesser extent Geezer on bass, and the powerful rhythm section foundation they provided for Tony and Ozzy.

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* Fitting perfectly into this trope are bassist and drummer Geezer Butler and Bill Ward of Music/Black Sabbath.Music/BlackSabbath. With singer Ozzy Osbourne moving on to a successful solo career and international stardom, and guitarist Tony Iommi remembered as the man who invented Music/HeavyMetal, it's easy to overlook the other two. Nevertheless, Geezer actually wrote all of the lyrics for the Ozzy-fronted Sabbath - the dark themes beng arguably what distinguished them from other hard rock bands and spawned the heavy metal genre. Furthermore, critics, fans, and bandmates alike have hailed Bill's prowess on drums ("Sabbath ain't Sabbath without Bill") and to a lesser extent Geezer on bass, and the powerful rhythm section foundation they provided for Tony and Ozzy.
16th Feb '15 4:07:14 PM DuncanHills
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* Fitting perfectly into this trope are bassist and drummer Geezer Butler and Bill Ward of Music/Black Sabbath. With singer Ozzy Osbourne moving on to a successful solo career and international stardom, and guitarist Tony Iommi remembered as the man who invented Music/HeavyMetal, it's easy to overlook the other two. Nevertheless, Geezer actually wrote all of the lyrics for the Ozzy-fronted Sabbath - the dark themes beng arguably what distinguished them from other hard rock bands and spawned the heavy metal genre. Furthermore, critics, fans, and bandmates alike have hailed Bill's prowess on drums ("Sabbath ain't Sabbath without Bill") and to a lesser extent Geezer on bass, and the powerful rhythm section foundation they provided for Tony and Ozzy.
15th Feb '15 12:10:38 AM bluesno1fann
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** When Queen released their first album, most of the attention they got from the media was focused on Brian May and the fact he made his own guitar (with his father). Freddie Mercury gradually developed both his songwriting and his stage persona to the point that he became the face of the band, at least as far as most of the public was concerned. Bassist John Deacon and drummer Roger Taylor were almost always overshadowed, but they still had their moments: John scored three big hits for the band in 1975, 1980 and 1984, and Roger also wrote some big numbers from 1984 onwards. In fact, a lot (though not all) of the band's big hits from 1980 onwards were by either one of them and by 1989 the band were crediting all songwriting to all four of them, effectively becoming an EnsembleCast.
* When Music/TheBeachBoys' Brian Wilson suffered an emotional breakdown in 1965 and decided to quit touring with the group, Bruce Johnston (previously of Beach Boys soundalike group the Rip Chords) was hired to take over his role playing bass onstage. By the end of the year Johnston was joining the Beach Boys in the studio and later became an integral part of their late '60s/early '70s recordings, even writing songs like "Disney Girls" for them.
** Moreso Dennis Wilson, who went from being the under-appreciated drummer to writing such classics as "Forever", to the point that his solo album, "Pacific Ocean Blue", charted higher and was more critically acclaimed than the Beach Boys album released that same year.
*** Dennis Wilson is even more surprising because he was seen as the jockish surfer who had no time for music, and yet his songs eventually showed him to be an emotional, troubled person just like his brothers. Of course, his time with Charles Manson changed his personality for the worse.

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** When Queen released their first album, most of the attention they got from the media was focused on Brian May and the fact he made his own guitar (with his father). Freddie Mercury gradually developed both his songwriting and his stage persona to the point that he became the face of the band, at least as far as most of the public was concerned. Bassist John Deacon and drummer Roger Taylor were almost always overshadowed, but they still had their moments: John scored three big hits for the band in 1975, 1980 and 1984, and Roger also wrote some big numbers from 1984 onwards. In fact, a lot (though not all) of the band's big hits from 1980 onwards were by either one of them and by 1989 the band were crediting all songwriting song-writing to all four of them, effectively becoming an EnsembleCast.
* When Music/TheBeachBoys' Brian Wilson suffered an emotional breakdown in 1965 and decided to quit touring with the group, Bruce Johnston (previously of Beach Boys soundalike group the Rip Chords) Chords, among many other groups) was hired to take over his role playing bass onstage. on-stage. By the end of the year Johnston was joining the Beach Boys in the studio and later became an integral part of their late '60s/early '70s recordings, even writing songs like "Disney Girls" Girls (1957)" for them.
** Moreso Dennis Wilson, Music/DennisWilson, who went from being the under-appreciated drummer to writing such classics as "Forever", to the point that his solo album, "Pacific Ocean Blue", ''Music/PacificOceanBlue'', charted higher and was more critically acclaimed than the Beach Boys album released that same year.
*** Dennis Wilson is even more surprising because he was seen as the jockish surfer who had no time for music, and yet his songs eventually showed him to be an emotional, troubled person just like his brothers. Of course, his time with Charles Manson changed his personality for the worse.
3rd Jan '15 8:18:03 PM deuxfolie
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* Despite being the bassist/lyricist of Music/FallOutBoy, Pete Wentz [[LeadBassist served as the front man for]] Music/FallOutBoy up until their hiatus (or their breakup, depending on who you talk to). Conventionally, either the lead singer/rhythm guitarist, Patrick Stump or the founder of the band, lead guitarist Joe Trohman should've been the front man, but seeing as Patrick didn't fit the standard front man mold and neither Joe or the drummer Andy Hurley had any interest in being the face, the role went to Pete. Considering his long standing mental health issues and relationship woes around the time of Music/FallOutBoy's height of popularity, it's questionable if this was the right decision in the long run. One is just as likely to find people citing his [[CelebrityIsOverrated dislike of his role]] as one could find people thinking he [[SmallNameBigEgo revels]] [[AttentionWhore in it]]. His massively prominent fandom/{{fandumb}} is a common conversation topic among Fall Out Boy fans and music spectators. Wentz's scandalous notoriety is {{lampshade|Hanging}}d in the music video for "This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race" from Infinity on High and often lampshaded by the band and [[SelfDeprecation himself]]. The transition of his side project Black Cards from a more poppy/dancey band with a female lead singer to an EDM duo with the previous incarnation's drummer looks to be a deliberate attempt to avoid this trope a second time around with another group.

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* Despite being the bassist/lyricist of Music/FallOutBoy, Pete Wentz [[LeadBassist served as the front man for]] Music/FallOutBoy up until their hiatus (or their breakup, depending on who you talk to).hiatus. Conventionally, either the lead singer/rhythm guitarist, Patrick Stump or the founder of the band, lead guitarist Joe Trohman should've been the front man, but seeing as Patrick didn't fit the standard front man mold and neither Joe or the drummer Andy Hurley had any interest in being the face, the role went to Pete. Considering his long standing mental health issues and relationship woes around the time of Music/FallOutBoy's height of popularity, it's questionable if this was the right decision in the long run. One is just as likely to find people citing his [[CelebrityIsOverrated dislike of his role]] as one could find people thinking he [[SmallNameBigEgo revels]] [[AttentionWhore in it]]. His massively prominent fandom/{{fandumb}} is a common conversation topic among Fall Out Boy fans and music spectators. Wentz's scandalous notoriety is {{lampshade|Hanging}}d in the music video for "This Ain't a Scene, It's an Arms Race" from Infinity on High and often lampshaded by the band and [[SelfDeprecation himself]]. The transition of his side project Black Cards from a more poppy/dancey band with a female lead singer to an EDM duo with the previous incarnation's drummer looks to be a deliberate attempt to avoid this trope a second time around with another group.
31st Oct '14 6:31:20 PM bt8257
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* While Steve Albini and Bob Weston had been famous musicians and recording engineers even since before they founded their band Music/{{Shellac}}, fans love to see [[AllDrummersAreAnimals drummer]] Todd Trainer [[{{Main/Cloudcuckoolander}} performing his stage antics]].
* Whilst Sting was undoubtedly the [[BreakoutCharacter Breakout Performer]] of Music/ThePolice, drummer Stewart Copeland became the band's Darkhorse. His unique playing style influenced numerous musicians ([[Music/{{Phish}} Trey Anastasio]] and [[Music/{{Primus}} Les Claypool]] have called him a "mutual hero", and Taylor Hawkins has invited him on several Music/FooFighters tours [[SixthRanger to play as a guest drummer]]), and Rolling Stone readers voted him the fifth-greatest drummer of all time in 2010.

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* While Steve Albini and Bob Weston had been famous musicians and recording engineers even since before they founded their band Music/{{Shellac}}, fans love to see [[AllDrummersAreAnimals drummer]] Todd Trainer [[{{Main/Cloudcuckoolander}} [[CloudCuckooLander performing his stage antics]].
* Whilst Sting was undoubtedly the [[BreakoutCharacter Breakout Performer]] of Music/ThePolice, drummer Stewart Copeland became the band's Darkhorse.Dark Horse. His unique playing style influenced numerous musicians ([[Music/{{Phish}} Trey Anastasio]] and [[Music/{{Primus}} Les Claypool]] have called him a "mutual hero", and Taylor Hawkins has invited him on several Music/FooFighters tours [[SixthRanger to play as a guest drummer]]), and Rolling Stone readers voted him the fifth-greatest drummer of all time in 2010.



* Ace Frehley of Music/{{KISS}} earned himself a loyal following, not just for his flashy lead guitar playing, but for his cool, cocky attitude that was a welcome change from the off-putting, egomaniacal [[LargeHam ham]] of GreedyJew Gene Simmons and CasanovaWannabe Paul Stanley. The fact that he had the most successful solo career out of all the members further cements this status.

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* Ace Frehley of Music/{{KISS}} earned himself a loyal following, not just for his flashy lead guitar playing, but for his cool, cocky attitude that was a welcome change from the off-putting, egomaniacal [[LargeHam ham]] of GreedyJew LargeHam Gene Simmons and CasanovaWannabe Paul Stanley. The fact that he had the most successful solo career out of all the members further cements this status.
10th Oct '14 9:34:28 PM Schroeder
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* Ace Frehly of Music/{{KISS}} earned himself a loyal following, not just for his flashy lead guitar playing, but for his cool, cocky attitude that was a welcome change from the off-putting, egomaniacal [[LargeHam ham]] of GreedyJew Gene Simmons and CasanovaWannabe Paul Stanley. The fact that he had the most successful solo career out of all the members further cements this status.

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* Ace Frehly Frehley of Music/{{KISS}} earned himself a loyal following, not just for his flashy lead guitar playing, but for his cool, cocky attitude that was a welcome change from the off-putting, egomaniacal [[LargeHam ham]] of GreedyJew Gene Simmons and CasanovaWannabe Paul Stanley. The fact that he had the most successful solo career out of all the members further cements this status.
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