History DracoInLeatherPants / Weboriginal

* ''WebVideo/DreamSMP'': Due to the large fanbase his content creator counterpart has, [[BigBad Dream]] is regarded by some parts of the fandom to be this. So-called c!Dream apologists claim that he is morally grey, ForcedIntoEvil (or SlowlySlippingIntoEvil at best), and had good, well-intentioned reason for doing everything he did, which included and was not limited to child abuse, murder, and plotting the massacre of four L'Manburgians for the "crime" of trying to stand up to his violent ControlFreak tendencies through declaring independence. Oftentimes, these 'reasons' and 'justifications' classify as DisproportionateRetribution at best, and UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming, dehumanization, and spread of blatant misinformation at worst, making this vocal stance highly controversial in parts of the fandom. Unsurprisingly, many of the Dream apologists do not look upon [[RonTheDeathEater Tommy or Wilbur]] fondly, believing them to be the root of Dream's fall into morally dark territory, though there is plenty of canonical evidence to prove otherwise. Obviously, Dream isn't the only character to have apologists, but the sheer aggression c!Dream's apologists have towards anyone that disagree with them make them quite a crowd to be aware of while traversing the fandom.

* ''LetsPlay/DreamSMP'': Due to the large fanbase [[MeanCharacterNiceActor his content creator counterpart]] has, [[BigBad Dream]] is regarded by some parts of the fandom to be this. So-called c!Dream apologists claim that he is morally grey, ForcedIntoEvil (or SlowlySlippingIntoEvil at best), and had good, well-intentioned reason for doing everything he did, which included and was not limited to child abuse, murder, and plotting the massacre of four L'Manburgians for the "crime" of trying to stand up to his violent ControlFreak tendencies through declaring independence. Oftentimes, these 'reasons' and 'justifications' classify as DisproportionateRetribution at best, and UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming, dehumanization, and spread of blatant misinformation at worst, making this vocal stance highly controversial in parts of the fandom. Unsurprisingly, many of the Dream apologists do not look upon [[RonTheDeathEater Tommy or Wilbur]] fondly, believing them to be the root of Dream's fall into morally dark territory, though there is plenty of canonical evidence to prove otherwise. Obviously, Dream isn't the only character to have apologists, but the sheer aggression c!Dream's apologists have towards anyone that disagree with them make them quite a crowd to be aware of while traversing the fandom.

* The ''Monstergirl Encyclopedia'' has this in spades. Many male readers reading about a setting full of [[CuteMonsterGirl hot monster girls]] [[AllWomenAreLustful that all want to have sex with men]] find the concept quite enjoyable, ignoring that the monstergirls will generally rape any men they see and force them into a relationship, commonly using MindControl powers or simply superior force to make them stay. The Demon Lord responsible for the current setup is a WellIntentionedExtremist that wants to end a ViciousCycle of humans and monsters constantly killing each other at the whims of the [[GodIsEvil Chief God]], but the only way she could think of to override the monster's instincts to kill humans was to turn them all into lustful women that could only reproduce with human men. She's also spreading [[TheCorruption demonic energy]] over the world, which transforms the landscape and and turns humans into [[HornyDevils Incubi]] if male and random monstergirls if female while also [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul brainwashing them so they aren't bothered by it]]. In addition to this, she's willing to eagerly convert/brainwash races that were fairly peaceful towards humans to begin with to strengthen her own forces. The Chief God's resistance to this presents of a risk of extinction for all races, due to fact it means new men aren't being born of the constant monstergirl/human couples, though the Demon Lord is trying to prevent this. Many readers will, however, miss the whole brainwashing deal and simply consider the Demon Lord a hero.

* Some of the [=SCPs=] on the Wiki/SCPFoundation wiki get this treatment. One example is SCP 682, who's sometimes portrayed as a {{Tsundere}} reptile that wants humans dead because they keep trying to kill him, despite that he's a nigh-immortal EldritchAbomination that wants nearly all life on Earth dead because he finds it disgusting. WordOfGod implies that [[http://www.scp-wiki.net/forum/t-561991/the-leak 682 might not be naturally violent or malevolent]], which might make the leather pantsing a little more justified.

*** The Chick's bad side (always present enough for the {{fanfic}} writers to make her a BastardGirlfriend) is coming out more with every video since "Kirk vs. Picard", in a attempt to make the difference between Nostalgia Chick and Lindsay Ellis more obvious. Doesn't stop the love, though.

* ''LetsPlay/DreamSMP'': Due to the large fanbase his content creator counterpart has, [[BigBad Dream]] is regarded by some parts of the fandom to be this. So-called c!Dream apologists claim that he is morally grey, ForcedIntoEvil (or SlowlySlippingIntoEvil at best), and had good, well-intentioned reason for doing everything he did, which included and was not limited to child abuse, murder, and plotting the massacre of four L'Manburgians for the "crime" of trying to stand up to his violent ControlFreak tendencies through declaring independence. Oftentimes, these 'reasons' and 'justifications' classify as DisproportionateRetribution at best, and UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming, dehumanization, and spread of blatant misinformation at worst, making this vocal stance highly controversial in parts of the fandom. Unsurprisingly, many of the Dream apologists do not look upon [[RonTheDeathEater Tommy or Wilbur]] fondly, believing them to be the root of Dream's fall into morally dark territory, though there is plenty of canonical evidence to prove otherwise. Obviously, Dream isn't the only character to have apologists, but the sheer aggression c!Dream's apologists have towards anyone that disagree with them make them quite a crowd to be aware of while traversing the fandom.

* ''WebAnimation/HazbinHotel'': [[{{Gayngster}} Angel Dust]] and [[TheDreaded Alastor]] each have a ''massive'' legion of swooning fangirls (and some swooning fanboys), despite the fact they are both extremely amoral [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], with the former being a mobster with zero qualms about killing other demons for territory or [[ForTheEvulz a cheap laugh]], and the latter being a vicious warlord who was an equally sadistic serial killer in life[[note]]and who may have possibly been a cannibal[[/note]]. There are several factors to this: one, they are such [[LargeHam Large Hams]] that [[BlackComedy they're extremely entertaining to watch regardless of their untenable morals]]. Two, they're already in Hell, so it's not like they aren't being punished for it, even if they both seem to take eternal damnation in stride. This segues into point three, being that Angel volunteered to be Charlie's test subject for her rehabilitation project and Alastor is sponsoring the project, even though Angel doesn't seem to be trying that hard at redemption and no one knows why Alastor would support such a project to begin with. Point four is that [[WordOfGod supplemental material from Vivziepop]] points toward Angel having a positive relationship with his little sister Molly and having a tragic backstory in being murdered by his older brother for being gay[[note]]This last one was changed to a drug overdose, but the homophobia is still implied[[/note]]. The final point seems to be, in a meta sense, a straight case of EvilIsSexy: voice actors Edward Bosco[[labelnote:*]]Alastor[[/labelnote]] and Michael Kovak[[labelnote:*]]Angel Dust[[/labelnote]] greatly enjoy playing up Angel's sex appeal and Alastor's creepiness[[note]]which often shoots the moon and loops back around to sexy, [[LoopholeAbuse something Bosco has acknowledged and actively invokes as a loophole to Vivzie's desire to not hypersexualize Alastor]][[/note]] during live streams with one of the HH animators, and seem perfectly aware of how many of the fangirls are [[ArousedByTheirVoice attracted to their voices]]. In response to this, much of Alastor's fandom portrayal deliberately frames his NightmareFuel as [[NightmareFetishist erotic]], in spite of the fact that, in addition to his amorality, he's also completely [[{{Asexuality}} asexual]], and therefore nothing he does is intended to be framed that way. This [=YouTube=] comment reacting to this fact sums up the entire situation:

* ''LetsPlay/DreamSMP'': Due to the large fanbase his content creator counterpart has, [[BigBad Dream]] is regarded by some parts of the fandom to be this. So-called c!Dream apologists claim that he is morally grey, ForcedIntoEvil (or SlowlySlippingIntoEvil at best), and had good, well-intentioned reason for doing everything he did, which included and was not limited to child abuse, murder, and plotting the massacre of four L'Manburgians for the "crime" of trying to stand up to his violent ControlFreak tendencies through declaring independence. Oftentimes, these 'reasons' and 'justifications' classify as DisproportionateRetribution at best, and UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming, dehumanization, and spread of blatant misinformation at worst, making this vocal stance highly controversial in parts of the fandom. Unsurprisingly, many of the Dream apologists do not look upon [[RonTheDeathEater Tommy or Wilbur]] fondly, believing them to be the root of Dream's fall into morally dark territory, though there is plenty of canonical evidence to prove otherwise. Obviously, Dream isn't the only character to have apologists, but the sheer aggression c!Dream's apologists have towards anyone that disagree with them make them [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment quite a crowd to be aware of]] while traversing the fandom.

* ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'' fandom does this with Evil Flippy, insisting that he's really just misunderstood and needs "twu wuv", or [[ScrewYourself his good side]] in order to become an upstanding member of society. Never mind that they've already got Good Flippy to toy with.

** Roman Torchwick is often portrayed sympathetically in fanworks, being frequently made into a LovableRogue or an AntiVillain of sorts. In canon, he is a violent criminal who commits armed robberies, gleefully blows up airships and is implied to engage in YouHaveFailedMe towards his underlings. His sole motivation is stated to be his own survival and he doesn't care how many people he has to hurt in order to ensure it. The only sympatethic quality he is shown to possess is his VillainousFriendship with Neo.

* The ''MonstergirlEncyclopedia'' has this in spades. Many male readers reading about a setting full of [[CuteMonsterGirl hot monster girls]] [[AllWomenAreLustful that all want to have sex with men]] find the concept quite enjoyable, ignoring that the monstergirls will generally rape any men they see and force them into a relationship, commonly using MindControl powers or simply superior force to make them stay. The Demon Lord responsible for the current setup is a WellIntentionedExtremist that wants to end a ViciousCycle of humans and monsters constantly killing each other at the whims of the [[GodIsEvil Chief God]], but the only way she could think of to override the monster's instincts to kill humans was to turn them all into lustful women that could only reproduce with human men. She's also spreading [[TheCorruption demonic energy]] over the world, which transforms the landscape and and turns humans into [[HornyDevils Incubi]] if male and random monstergirls if female while also [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul brainwashing them so they aren't bothered by it]]. In addition to this, she's willing to eagerly convert/brainwash races that were fairly peaceful towards humans to begin with to strengthen her own forces. The Chief God's resistance to this presents of a risk of extinction for all races, due to fact it means new men aren't being born of the constant monstergirl/human couples, though the Demon Lord is trying to prevent this. Many readers will, however, miss the whole brainwashing deal and simply consider the Demon Lord a hero.

* at it’s height the Creepypasta community was infamous for this trope, often with legions of fangirls attempting to glamorize and/or justify characters who were mass murdering serial killers.

* This Website/{{Cracked}} article, [[http://www.cracked.com/article_18417_the-lighter-side-dark-side-5-villains-who-were-good.html "9 Famous Movie Villains Who Were Right All Along"]]. Bizarrely it tries to say Sauron never does anything wrong and is only trying to help oppressed minorities, even though the first minutes of the movie say that Sauron was trying to gain dominion over Middle-Earth.
** Also from Cracked is [[http://www.cracked.com/pictofacts-107-33-useful-words-english-language-needs-to-add/ a word for the concept]], "malamorous".
* Parodied in the video ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLxFDdezjTA If Joffrey Was The Hero]]''. It splices together various ''Series/GameOfThrones'' clips to make it appear that [[KidsAreCruel Joffrey]] was a wise and compassionate ruler whose murder was a great tragedy. In canon, ''the exact opposite'' is true, something which the video's creators gleefully acknowledge.
* ''WebAnimation/HazbinHotel'': [[{{Gayngster}} Angel Dust]] and [[TheDreaded Alastor]] each have a ''massive'' legion of swooning fangirls (and some swooning fanboys), despite the fact they are both extremely amoral [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], with the former being a mobster with zero qualms about killing other demons for territory or [[ForTheEvulz a cheap laugh]], and the latter being a vicious warlord who was an equally sadistic serial killer in life[[note]]and who may have possibly been a cannibal[[/note]]. There are several factors to this: one, they are such [[LargeHam Large Hams]] that [[BlackComedy they're extremely entertaining to watch regardless of their untenable morals]]. Two, they're already in Hell, so it's not like they aren't being punished for it, even if they both seem to take eternal damnation in stride. This segues into point three, being that Angel volunteered to be Charlie's test subject for her rehabilitation project and Alastor is sponsoring the project, even though Angel doesn't seem to be trying that hard at redemption and no one knows why Alastor would support such a project to begin with. Point four is that [[WordOfGod supplemental material from Vivziepop]] points toward Angel having a positive relationship with his little sister Molly and having a tragic backstory in being murdered by his older brother for being gay[[note]]This last one was changed to a drug overdose, but the homophobia is still implied[[/note]]. The final point seems to be, in a meta sense, a straight case of EvilIsSexy: voice actors Edward Bosco[[labelnote:*]]Alastor[[/labelnote]] and Michael Kovak[[labelnote:*]]Angel Dust[[/labelnote]] greatly enjoy playing up Angel's sex appeal and Alastor's creepiness[[note]]which often shoots the moon and loops back around to sexy, [[LoopholeAbuse something Bosco has acknowledged and actively invokes as a loophole to Vivzie's desire to not hypersexualize Alastor]][[/note]] during live streams with one of the HH animators, and seem perfectly aware of how many of the fangirls are [[ArousedByTheirVoice attracted to their voices]]. In response to this, much of Alastor's fandom portrayal deliberately frames his NightmareFuel as [[NightmareFetishist erotic]], in spite of the fact that, in addition to his amorality, he's also completely [[{{Asexuality}} asexual]], and therefore nothing he does is intended to be framed that way. This Youtube comment reacting to this fact sums up the entire situation:
--> "Alastor is asexual"
--> "Fangirl: That sign can't stop me because I can't read!"
** The recent "Addict" music video, which focuses on Angel's emotional state and his relationship dynamics with both his boss Valentino and his friend Cherri Bomb, has resulted in even tighter and shinier leather than ever before for Angel. The video makes it clear that [[spoiler: he is a regular victim of sexual abuse at the hands of Valentino, and Cherri Bomb takes revenge on Val by destroying his advertisements and buildings]], eliciting more genuine sympathy from the fandom than he had before. The video had the added effect of Draco-fying Cherri herself, promoting her from unstable, foul-mouthed pyromaniac who was Angel's ToxicFriendInfluence, to a caring, loyal and genuine friend to Angel, and possibly the only real friend he has, even if her method of showing it just happens to involve indulging her destructive tendencies, earning her even more fangirls and fanboys than she already had.
* ''WebVideo/EverymanHYBRID'' has this with HABIT. In fact, the character has so many fangirls that there's a go-to response... after all, he did eat a baby.
* Adult Wednesday herself is not portrayed as a bad person in ''WebVideo/AdultWednesdayAddams'' but her entire persona is unrelentingly dark and macabre. So it's not surprising that some fans can't help but find her sexy. It doesn't hurt that Creator/MelissaHunter is very attractive.

* at it’s height the [[WebOriginal/Creepypasta Creepypasta]]community was infamous for this trope, often with legions of fangirls attempting to glamorize and/or justify characters who were mass murdering serial killers.

* the

* at it’s height the [[WebOriginal/Creepypasta]] community was infamous for this trope, often with legions of fangirls attempting to glamorize and/or justify characters who were mass murdering serial killers.

* Some of the [=SCPs=] on the Wiki/SCPFoundation wiki get this treatment. One example is SCP 682, who's sometimes portrayed as a {{Tsundere}} reptile that wants humans dead because they keep trying to kill him, despite that he's a nigh-immortal EldritchAbomination that wants nearly all life on Earth dead because he finds it disgusting.

** The recent "Addict" music video, which focuses on Angel's emotional state and his relationship dynamics with both his boss Valentino and his friend Cherri Bomb, has resulted in even tighter and shinier leather than ever before for Angel. The video makes it clear that [[spoiler: he is a regular victim of sexual abuse at the hands of Valentino, and Cherri Bomb takes revenge on Val by destroying his advertisements and buildings]], eliciting more genuine sympathy from the fandom than he had before. The video had the added effect of Draco-fying Cherri herself, promoting her from unstable, foul-mouthed pyromaniac who was Angel's ToxicFriendInfluence, to a caring, loyal and genuine friend to Angel, and possibly the only real friend he has, even if her method of showing it just happens to involve indulging her destructive tendencies, earning her even more fangirls and fanboys than she already had.

* ''WebAnimation/HazbinHotel'': [[{{Gayngster}} Angel Dust]] and [[TheDreaded Alastor]] each have a ''massive'' legion of swooning fangirls (and some swooning fanboys), despite the fact they are both extremely amoral [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], with the former being a mobster with zero qualms about killing other demons for territory or [[ForTheEvulz a cheap laugh]], and the latter being a vicious warlord who was an equally sadistic serial killer in life[[note]]and who may have possibly been a cannibal[[/note]]. There are several factors to this: one, they are such [[LargeHam Large Hams]] that [[BlackComedy they're extremely entertaining to watch regardless of their untenable morals]]. Two, they're already in Hell, so it's not like they aren't being punished for it, even if they both seem to take eternal damnation in stride. This segues into point three, being that Angel volunteered to be Charlie's test subject for her rehabilitation project and Alastor is sponsoring the project, even though Angel doesn't seem to be trying that hard at redemption and no one knows why Alastor would support such a project to begin with. Point four is that [[WordOfGod supplemental material from Vivziepop]] points toward Angel having a positive relationship with his little sister Molly and having a tragic backstory in being murdered by his older brother for being gay. The final point seems to be, in a meta sense, a straight case of EvilIsSexy: voice actors Edward Bosco[[labelnote:*]]Alastor[[/labelnote]] and Michael Kovak[[labelnote:*]]Angel Dust[[/labelnote]] greatly enjoy playing up Angel's sex appeal and Alastor's creepiness[[note]]which often shoots the moon and loops back around to sexy, [[LoopholeAbuse something Bosco has acknowledged and actively invokes as a loophole to Vivzie's desire to not hypersexualize Alastor]][[/note]] during live streams with one of the HH animators, and seem perfectly aware of how many of the fangirls are [[ArousedByTheirVoice attracted to their voices]]. In response to this, much of Alastor's fandom portrayal deliberately frames his NightmareFuel as [[NightmareFetishist erotic]], in spite of the fact that, in addition to his amorality, he's also completely [[{{Asexuality}} asexual]], and therefore nothing he does is intended to be framed that way. This Youtube comment reacting to this fact sums up the entire situation:

** Hyper Fangirl gets considered by a lot of people as cute and adorable and her stalking victim Critic should just be nice to her. Even Doug himself complained about this.

* The Notebook and Tony the Talking Clock in ''WebVideo/DontHugMeImScared'' have an unusual case of this. In canon, they're essentially {{Misplaced Kindergarten Teacher}}s who browbeat and bully the main characters into accepting their viewpoints, and their "lessons" had a tendency to conclude in bizarre and brutal gorefests (how much of a hand they had in the gorefests is iffy). Neither one really demonstrates any personality traits beyond being [[ItsAllAboutMe self-obsessed]] and [[JerkAss mean.]] In fanon, watch as they [[SelfFanservice transform]] into the protagonists of a Creator/TimBurton film and become kooky, quirky {{Comedic Sociopath}}s, playing up their association with creepy things and massively playing down their general rudeness. They're also usually made into love interests, even though they've never had any kind of interaction.

* ''Webseries/Everyman HYBRID'' has this with HABIT. In fact, the character has so many fangirls that there's a go-to response... after all, he did eat a baby.

* ''Webseries/Everyman HYBRID'' has this with HABIT. In fact, the character has so many fangirls that there's a go-to response... after all, he did eat a baby.

* ''WebAnimation/HazbinHotel'': [[{{Gayngster}} Angel Dust]] and [[TheDreaded Alastor]] each have a ''massive'' legion of swooning fangirls (and some swooning fanboys), despite the fact they are both extremely amoral [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], with the former being a mobster with zero qualms about killing other demons for territory or [[ForTheEvulz a cheap laugh]], and the latter being a vicious warlord who was an equally sadistic serial killer in life[[note]]and who may have possibly been a cannibal[[/note]]. There are several factors to this: one, they are such [[LargeHam Large Hams]] that [[BlackComedy they're extremely entertaining to watch regardless of their untenable morals]]. Two, they're already in Hell, so it's not like they aren't being punished for it, even if they both seem to take eternal damnation in stride. This segues into point three, being that Angel volunteered to be Charlie's test subject for her rehabilitation project and Alastor is sponsoring the project, even though Angel doesn't seem to be trying that hard at redemption and no one knows why Alastor would support such a project to begin with. Point four is that [[WordOfGod supplemental material from Vivziepop]] points toward Angel having a positive relationship with his little sister Molly and having a tragic backstory in being murdered by his older brother for being gay. The final point seems to be, in a meta sense, a straight case of EvilIsSexy: voice actors Edward Bosco[[labelnote:*]]Alastor[[/labelnote]] and Michael Kovak[[labelnote:*]]Angel Dust[[/labelnote]] greatly enjoy playing up Angel's sex appeal and Alastor's creepiness[[note]]which often shoots the moon and loops back around to sexy, [[LoopholeAbuse something Bosco has acknowledged and actively invokes as a loophole to Vivzie's desire to not hypersexualize Alastor]][[/note]] during live streams with one of the HH animators, and seem perfectly aware of how many of the fangirls are [[ArousedByTheirVoice attracted to their voices]]. In response to this, much of Alastor's fandom portrayal deliberately frames his NightmareFuel as [[NightmareFetishist erotic]], in spite of the fact that, in addition to his amorality, he's also completely [[{{Asexuality}} asexual, and therefore nothing he does is intended to be framed that way. This Youtube comment reacting to this fact sums up the entire situation:

* ''WebAnimation/HazbinHotel'': [[{{Gayngster}} Angel Dust]] and [[TheDreaded Alastor]] each have a ''massive'' legion of swooning fangirls (and some swooning fanboys), despite the fact they are both extremely amoral [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], with the former being a mobster with zero qualms about killing other demons for territory or [[ForTheEvulz a cheap laugh]], and the latter being a vicious warlord who was an equally sadistic serial killer in life[[note]]and who may have possibly been a cannibal[[/note]]. There are several factors to this: one, they are such [[LargeHam Large Hams]] that [[BlackComedy they're extremely entertaining to watch regardless of their untenable morals]]. Two, they're already in Hell, so it's not like they aren't being punished for it, even if they both seem to take eternal damnation in stride. This segues into point three, being that Angel volunteered to be Charlie's test subject for her rehabilitation project and Alastor is sponsoring the project, even though Angel doesn't seem to be trying that hard at redemption and no one knows why Alastor would support such a project to begin with. Point four is that [[WordOfGod supplemental material from Vivziepop]] points toward Angel having a positive relationship with his little sister Molly and having a tragic backstory in being murdered by his older brother for being gay. The final point seems to be, in a meta sense, a straight case of EvilIsSexy: voice actors Edward Bosco[[labelnote:*]]Alastor[[/labelnote]] and Michael Kovak[[labelnote:*]]Angel Dust[[/labelnote]] greatly enjoy playing up Angel's sex appeal and Alastor's creepiness[[note]]which often shoots the moon and loops back around to sexy, [[LoopholeAbuse something Bosco has acknowledged and actively invokes as a loophole to Vivzie's desire to not hypersexualize Alastor]][[/note]] during live streams with one of the HH animators, and seem perfectly aware of how many of the fangirls are [[ArousedByTheirVoice attracted to their voices]].

* ''WebAnimation/HazbinHotel'': [[{{Gayngster}} Angel Dust]] and [[TheDreaded Alastor]] each have a ''massive'' legion of swooning fangirls (and some swooning fanboys), despite the fact they are both extremely amoral [[{{Jerkass}} Jerkasses]], with the former being a mobster with zero qualms about killing other demons for territory or a [[ForTheEvulz a cheap laugh]], and the latter being a vicious warlord who was an equally sadistic serial killer in life[[note]]and who may have possibly been a cannibal[[/note]]. There are several factors to this: one, they are such [[LargeHam Large Hams]] that [[BlackComedy they're extremely entertaining to watch regardless of their untenable morals]]. Two, they're already in Hell, so it's not like they aren't being punished for it, even if they both seem to take eternal damnation in stride. This segues into point three, being that Angel volunteered to be Charlie's test subject for her rehabilitation project and Alastor is sponsoring the project, even though Angel doesn't seem to be trying that hard at redemption and no one knows why Alastor would support such a project to begin with. Point four is that [[WordOfGod supplemental material from Vivziepop]] points toward Angel having a positive relationship with his little sister Molly and having a tragic backstory in being murdered by his older brother for being gay. The final point seems to be, in a meta sense, a straight case of EvilIsSexy: voice actors Edward Bosco[[labelnote:*]]Alastor[[/labelnote]] and Michael Kovak[[labelnote:*]]Angel Dust[[/labelnote]] greatly enjoy playing up Angel's sex appeal and Alastor's creepiness[[note]]which often shoots the moon and loops back around to sexy, [[LoopholeAbuse something Bosco has acknowledged and actively invokes as a loophole to Vivzie's desire to not hypersexualize Alastor]][[/note]] during live streams with one of the HH animators, and seem perfectly aware of how many of the fangirls are [[ArousedByTheirVoice attracted to their voices]].

* ''WebAnimation/HazbinHotel'': [[Gayngster Angel Dust]] and [[TheDreaded Alastor]] each have a ''massive'' legion of swooning fangirls (and some swooning fanboys), despite the fact they are both extremely amoral [[Jerkass Jerkasses]], with the former being a mobster with zero qualms about killing other demons for territory or a [[ForTheEvulz a cheap laugh]], and the latter being a vicious warlord who was an equally sadistic serial killer in life[[note]]and who may have possibly been a cannibal[[/note]]. There are several factors to this: one, they are such [[LargeHam Large Hams]] that [[BlackComedy they're extremely entertaining to watch regardless of their untenable morals]]. Two, they're already in Hell, so it's not like they aren't being punished for it, even if they both seem to take eternal damnation in stride. This segues into point three, being that Angel volunteered to be Charlie's test subject for her rehabilitation project and Alastor is sponsoring the project, even though Angel doesn't seem to be trying that hard at redemption and no one knows why Alastor would support such a project to begin with. Point four is that [[WordOfGod supplemental material from Vivziepop]] points toward Angel having a positive relationship with his little sister Molly and having a tragic backstory in being murdered by his older brother for being gay. The final point seems to be, in a meta sense, a straight case of EvilIsSexy: voice actors Edward Bosco[[labelnote:*]]Alastor[[/labelnote]] and Michael Kovak[[labelnote:*]]Angel Dust[[/labelnote]] greatly enjoy playing up Angel's sex appeal and Alastor's creepiness[[note]]which often shoots the moon and loops back around to sexy, [[LoopholeAbuse something Bosco has acknowledged and actively invokes as a loophole to Vivzie's desire to not hypersexualize Alastor]][[/note]] during live streams with one of the HH animators, and seem perfectly aware of how many of the fangirls are [[ArousedByTheirVoice attracted to their voices]].