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-->'''Abby''' ''(writing in her diary)'': She said I had betrayed an innocent child's trust. She said Wynter would bear lifelong scars. She made it sound like I had committed an awful crime.

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-->'''Abby''' ''(writing in her diary)'': She said I had betrayed an innocent child's trust. She said Wynter would bear lifelong scars. She made it sound like I had committed an awful crime.crime.
* An lampshaded, in-universe example occurs in ''[[TheDresdenFiles Cold Days.]]'' [[spoiler: Ghost!Harry, being incorporeal, tries to possess Molly's body and channel magic through it. She fights this initially, trying to push him out, but relaxes after he tells her his identity.]] She notes this trope later.

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** Parallels are drawn between magic and nuclear power: borne out the structure of the universe, it's immensely powerful and can be employed for much benefit but has to be handled with great care. Places where it went wrong are left barren and toxic and may simply be craters, the waste products are dangerous for centuries afterwards, but it's perfectly safe right up until the moment when it very much isn't. (Creator/TerryPratchett was once a press officer for Britain's nuclear energy providers.)



** In ''Discworld/{{Thud}}'', on the other hand, the clash of ideals between moderate and extremist dwarven factions closely resembles similar conflicts in the history of religion, Islam being the most prominent one recently.

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** In ''Discworld/{{Thud}}'', on the other hand, the clash of ideals between moderate and extremist dwarven factions closely resembles similar conflicts in the history of religion, Islam being the most prominent one recently.in recent times.



** ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'' was centered around a conflict between the Westernized Ankh-Morpork and the Arabia-metaphor country of Klatch. Anti-Klatchian prejudice bore a remarkable similarity to the xenophobic ignorance shown against Middle Eastern peoples, and the illogic of this stance is lampooned many, many times.
*** Though the prejudices were less about the modern religious terrorists angle, but about the old British colonial stereotypes.
** There's also the Black Ribbon Society, a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent group of vampires which have pledged to give up blood]], which is clearly meant to be similar to Alcoholics Anonymous.
** In Guards! Guards!, drunk Vimes says (paraphrased): Ah, life... it grabs you... kicks you in the... in the... y'know, thingies... that you have in the mouth... Teeth. That's it.

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** ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'' was centered around a conflict between the Westernized Ankh-Morpork and the Arabia-metaphor country of Klatch. Anti-Klatchian prejudice bore a remarkable similarity to the xenophobic ignorance shown against Middle Eastern peoples, and the illogic of this stance is lampooned many, many times.
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** There's also the Black Ribbon Society, a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent group of vampires which have pledged to give up blood]], which is clearly meant to be similar to resembles the Temperance movements of the late 19th/early 20th century, and more recent movements such as Alcoholics Anonymous.
** In Guards! Guards!, ''Guards! Guards!'', drunk Vimes says (paraphrased): Ah, "Ah, life... it grabs you... kicks you in the... in the... y'know, thingies... that you have in the mouth... Teeth. That's it."
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* In the eighth LightNovel of SuzumiyaHaruhi, Haruhi tries to get the last page of Kyon's short story because she wants to know the aftermath of the date. He unconsciously touches his blazer, and Haruhi, being the GenreSavvy girl, immediately works out where he hid it and wrestles him to the floor, in [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_%28grappling%29 this position.]] Followed soon after by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guard_(grappling) this position.]] Guess what came to Mikuru's mind when she walks in on this. You're right.

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* In the eighth LightNovel of SuzumiyaHaruhi, ''LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya'', Haruhi tries to get the last page of Kyon's short story because she wants to know the aftermath of the date. He unconsciously touches his blazer, and Haruhi, being the GenreSavvy girl, immediately works out where he hid it and wrestles him to the floor, in [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_%28grappling%29 this position.]] Followed soon after by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guard_(grappling) this position.]] Guess what came to Mikuru's mind when she walks in on this. You're right.
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** It's named ''Arrakis''. [[hottip:*:Which comes from the traditional name of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_Draconis Mu Draconis]], which comes from the Arabic ''al-Raqis'', "The Dancer". Yes, we know that Arrakis orbits Canopus, another star entirely.]] I think that's [[{{Anvilicious}} a bit more than reminding]].

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** It's named ''Arrakis''. [[hottip:*:Which [[labelnote:*]]Which comes from the traditional name of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_Draconis Mu Draconis]], which comes from the Arabic ''al-Raqis'', "The Dancer". Yes, we know that Arrakis orbits Canopus, another star entirely.]] [[/labelnote]] I think that's [[{{Anvilicious}} a bit more than reminding]].
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* In ''TheAmazingDaysOfAbbyHayes,'' Laurie, a ''very'' stringent GranolaGirl, finds chocolate in her five-year-old daughter's sleeping bag that Abby gave to her and immediately becomes very angry with her. The scene is played out as if the chocolate was an illegal drug of some sort (which, from Laurie's point of view, it is).
-->'''Abby:''' ''(in her diary)'' She said I had betrayed an innocent child's trust. She said Wynter would bear lifelong scars. She made it sound like I had committed an awful crime.

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* In ''TheAmazingDaysOfAbbyHayes,'' Laurie, a ''very'' stringent GranolaGirl, finds chocolate in her five-year-old daughter's sleeping bag that Abby gave to her and immediately becomes very angry with her. The scene is played out as if the chocolate was an illegal drug of some sort (which, sort. Which, from Laurie's point of view, it is).
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-->'''Abby''' ''(writing in
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* Toward the end of ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'', the vampire forces Mina to [[spoiler:drink some of his blood from his chest]]. The protagonists walking in on this event feel both awkward and enraged. Afterwards, Mina is traumatized and ashamed, and struggles to explain what happened to her husband. She [[UnfortunateImplications laments her doomed soul]] and [[NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization blames herself for "wanting" it]].

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* Toward the end of ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'', the vampire forces Mina to [[spoiler:drink some of his blood from his chest]]. The protagonists walking in on this event feel both awkward and enraged. Afterwards, Mina is traumatized and ashamed, and struggles to explain what happened to her husband. She [[UnfortunateImplications laments her doomed soul]] and [[NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization blames herself for "wanting" it]]."not want[ing] to hinder him"]].
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* In ''TheAmazingDaysOfAbbyHayes,'' Laurie, a ''very'' stringent GranolaGirl, finds chocolate in her five-year-old daughter's sleeping bag that Abby gave to her and immediately becomes very angry with her. The scene is played out as if the chocolate were an illegal drug ("Abby deliberately gave Wynter sugar! She knows how bad it is for her!").

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* In ''TheAmazingDaysOfAbbyHayes,'' Laurie, a ''very'' stringent GranolaGirl, finds chocolate in her five-year-old daughter's sleeping bag that Abby gave to her and immediately becomes very angry with her. The scene is played out as if the chocolate were was an illegal drug ("Abby deliberately gave Wynter sugar! She knows how bad of some sort (which, from Laurie's point of view, it is for her!").is).
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* In ''TheBabySittersClub'', the whole plotline about Stacey's diabetes and the associated stigma leading to her moving away from New York lest she lose all her friends. In retrospect, the series' origins in the late [[TheEighties eighties]] makes it likely the diabetes stood in for HIV (considering very few people lose their friends over having diabetes).

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* In ''TheBabySittersClub'', the whole plotline about Stacey's diabetes and the associated stigma leading to her moving away from New York lest she lose all her friends. In retrospect, the series' origins in the late [[TheEighties eighties]] makes it likely the diabetes stood in for HIV (considering very few people lose their friends over having diabetes).diabetes).
* In ''TheAmazingDaysOfAbbyHayes,'' Laurie, a ''very'' stringent GranolaGirl, finds chocolate in her five-year-old daughter's sleeping bag that Abby gave to her and immediately becomes very angry with her. The scene is played out as if the chocolate were an illegal drug ("Abby deliberately gave Wynter sugar! She knows how bad it is for her!").
-->'''Abby:''' ''(in her diary)'' She said I had betrayed an innocent child's trust. She said Wynter would bear lifelong scars. She made it sound like I had committed an awful crime.
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* In ''TheBerenstainBears'' book about the Beanie Babies, The Bears go over to the Bear City, to a Bears R Us, to a long line, and the narration actually mentions two dads who are being arrested for getting into a fight. That was probably one of the more grittier elements of the usually light-hearted books.

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* In ''TheBerenstainBears'' book about the Beanie Babies, The Bears go over to the Bear City, to a Bears R Us, to a long line, and the narration actually mentions two dads who are being arrested for getting into a fight. That was probably one of the more grittier elements of the usually light-hearted books.

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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': See what this sounds like: An eleven-year-old girl exchanges messages with an older stranger she has never met in real life. It's so easy! She enters her thoughts and he immediately transmits back. She confides in him, but he's really using her and preying on her insecurities. He makes her do horrible things for him which she doesn't want to do, but she still doesn't tell anyone. Finally, he meets her in person and nearly kills her. After she's been rescued, her father chides her for knowing better than to trust someone like that.
** More blatantly, the werewolf Fenrir Greyback seems to have some pretty heavy "sexual predator" undertones, what with all his salivating over young children and whatnot.

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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': See what this sounds like: An eleven-year-old girl exchanges messages with an older stranger she has never met in real life. It's so easy! She enters her thoughts and he immediately transmits back. She confides in him, but he's really using her and preying on her insecurities. He makes her do horrible things for him which she doesn't want to do, but she still doesn't tell anyone. Finally, he meets her in person and nearly kills her. After she's been rescued, her father chides her for knowing better than to trust someone like that.
** More blatantly, the
The werewolf Fenrir Greyback seems to have some pretty heavy "sexual predator" undertones, what with all his salivating over young children and whatnot.
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* In Jasper Fforde's ''The Fourth Bear'', the MP Sherman Bartholomew built his reputation on being the first openly gay Member of Parliament, but is secretly straight. His husband is aware of his dalliances with women, and has agreed to support him if any of them were to become public knowledge. The same book also featured [[TalkingAnimal talking bears]] who developed addictions to honey and porridge, which were therefore controlled substances.

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* In Jasper Fforde's ''The ''[[Literature/NurseryCrime The Fourth Bear'', Bear]]'', the MP Sherman Bartholomew built his reputation on being the first openly gay Member of Parliament, but is secretly straight. His husband is aware of his dalliances with women, and has agreed to support him if any of them were to become public knowledge. The same book also featured [[TalkingAnimal talking bears]] who developed addictions to honey and porridge, which were therefore controlled substances.



* In ''TheWitcher'' novels the presence of the Witchers can be sensed as a tingling sensation by sensitive people. There's a reason why they all seem to attract the opposite sex quite a bit. Likewise, in ''The Blood of the Elves'' a 13-year old girl learning to be a sorceress draws power from the earth, an experience that's described in a manner reminiscent of menstrual cramps and concluding in an orgasm.
* Creator/RoaldDahl's ''TheWitches'' includes a scene where the protagonist is dragged out of hiding by a group of witches and force-fed a potion as they hold him down.

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* In ''TheWitcher'' ''Literature/TheWitcher'' novels the presence of the Witchers can be sensed as a tingling sensation by sensitive people. There's a reason why they all seem to attract the opposite sex quite a bit. Likewise, in ''The Blood of the Elves'' a 13-year old girl learning to be a sorceress draws power from the earth, an experience that's described in a manner reminiscent of menstrual cramps and concluding in an orgasm.
* Creator/RoaldDahl's ''TheWitches'' ''Literature/TheWitches'' includes a scene where the protagonist is dragged out of hiding by a group of witches and force-fed a potion as they hold him down.
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* ''GoblinMarket'' is full of this trope, sometimes disturbingly so, with multiple scenes that suggest a connection between the consumption of food and seduction or attempted rape.

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* ''GoblinMarket'' ''Literature/GoblinMarket'' is full of this trope, sometimes disturbingly so, with multiple scenes that suggest a connection between the consumption of food and seduction or attempted rape.
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* In the ''{{Taltos}}'' novels, the Teckla rebellion is clearly reminiscent of a communist revolution. In fact, in one book, a ridiculously long-lived character actually seems familiar with Marx's text and makes this comparison.

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* In the ''{{Taltos}}'' ''Literature/{{Dragaera}}'' novels, the Teckla rebellion is clearly reminiscent of a communist revolution. In fact, in one book, a ridiculously long-lived character actually seems familiar with Marx's text and makes this comparison.
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--> '''Jeeves''' ''It is often the way, sir.''

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--> '''Jeeves''' ''It is often the way, sir.''''
* In ''TheBabySittersClub'', the whole plotline about Stacey's diabetes and the associated stigma leading to her moving away from New York lest she lose all her friends. In retrospect, the series' origins in the late [[TheEighties eighties]] makes it likely the diabetes stood in for HIV (considering very few people lose their friends over having diabetes).
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* In Vikram Seth's novel ''Literature/AnEqualMusic'', brilliant musician Julia suffers gradual hearing loss. [[LudwigVanBeethoven Guess who else did?]]

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* In Vikram Seth's novel ''Literature/AnEqualMusic'', brilliant musician Julia suffers gradual hearing loss. [[LudwigVanBeethoven Guess who else did?]]did?]]
* At [[Literature/JeevesAndWooster ''Right Ho, Jeeves'']], Berthie relates Jeeves the descent and fall of Augustus Fink-Nottle from Newts as a harmless hobbie to a dark obsession:
--> '''Bertie''' ''...Well, Gussie has always been a slave to them. He used to keep them at school.''
--> '''Jeeves''' ''I believe young gentlemen frequently do, sir.''
--> '''Bertie''' ''He kept them in his study in a kind of glass-tank arrangement, and pretty niffy the whole thing was, I recall. I suppose one ought to have been able to see what the end would be even then, but you know what boys are. Careless, heedless, busy about our own affairs, we scarcely gave this kink in Gussie's character a thought. We may have exchanged an occasional remark about it taking all sorts to make a world, but nothing more. You can guess the sequel. The trouble spread,''
--> '''Jeeves''' ''Indeed, sir?''
--> '''Bertie''' ''Absolutely, Jeeves. The craving grew upon him. The newts got him. Arrived at man's estate, he retired to the depths of the country and gave his life up to these dumb chums. I suppose he used to tell himself that he could take them or leave them alone, and then found—too late—that he couldn't.''
--> '''Jeeves''' ''It is often the way, sir.''
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--> ''Powell grinned humorlessly at Donovan.'' "Did you get that? Those were the days of the first talking robots when it looked as if the use of robots on Earth would be banned. [[FantasticRacism The makers were fighting that and they built good, healthy slave complexes into the damned machines.]]"

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--> ''Powell grinned humorlessly at Donovan.'' "Did you get that? Those were the days of the first talking robots when it looked as if the use of robots on Earth would be banned. [[FantasticRacism The makers were fighting that and they built good, healthy slave complexes into the damned machines.]]"]]"
* In Vikram Seth's novel ''Literature/AnEqualMusic'', brilliant musician Julia suffers gradual hearing loss. [[LudwigVanBeethoven Guess who else did?]]
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** That has more to do with the fact that the InheritanceCycle page is really biased against it

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* Detractors like to say this about the ''InheritanceCycle'', claiming that Paolini copied plot points or even the entire storyline wholesale from other, better books or movies. This is somewhat helped along by the fact that the plot synopsis on this very wiki's page for the series was constructed to read like a {{Troperiffic}} plot synopsis of ''StarWars''.

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* Detractors like to say this about the ''InheritanceCycle'', ''Literature/InheritanceCycle'', claiming that Paolini copied plot points or even the entire storyline wholesale from other, better books or movies. This is somewhat helped along by the fact that the plot synopsis on this very wiki's page for the series was constructed to read like a {{Troperiffic}} plot synopsis of ''StarWars''.
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* DrSeuss' ''The Butter Battle Book'' concerns two peoples split by a [[SillyReasonForWar trivial ideological difference]] (which side toast should be buttered on), locked in an arms race that escalates to the point that if either side actually acts, both will be destroyed. If this sounds ''exactly'' like the ColdWar as seen by its detractors, congratulations, you just got the point of the book.

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* DrSeuss' Creator/DrSeuss' ''The Butter Battle Book'' concerns two peoples split by a [[SillyReasonForWar trivial ideological difference]] (which side toast should be buttered on), locked in an arms race that escalates to the point that if either side actually acts, both will be destroyed. If this sounds ''exactly'' like the ColdWar as seen by its detractors, congratulations, you just got the point of the book.



--> ''Powell grinned humorlessly at Donovan.'' "Did you get that? Those were the days of the first talking robots when it looked as if the use of robots on Earth would be banned. [[FantasticRacism The makers were fighting that and they built good, healthy slave complexes into the damned machines.]]"

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--> ''Powell grinned humorlessly at Donovan.'' "Did you get that? Those were the days of the first talking robots when it looked as if the use of robots on Earth would be banned. [[FantasticRacism The makers were fighting that and they built good, healthy slave complexes into the damned machines.]]"

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* At the collection of short stories ''Literature/IRobot'', At the story ''Little Lost Robot'', published at 1947, a sciencist at US Robots, Dr. Bogert, calls robots repeatedly ''"Boy"''. And the story ''Runaround'', written at 1942, we see that the robots stationed at Venus must call all humans ''"Master"'':
--> ''The monster’s head bent slowly and the eyes fixed themselves on Powell. Then, in a harsh, squawking voice — like that of a medieval phonograph, he grated,'' "Yes, Master!"
--> ''Powell grinned humorlessly at Donovan.'' "Did you get that? Those were the days of the first talking robots when it looked as if the use of robots on Earth would be banned. [[FantasticRacism The makers were fighting that and they built good, healthy slave complexes into the damned machines.]]"

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* Aside from the meta-example of "Harry Peters" (Peter Harris' disguise in ''[[AuntDimity Aunt Dimity and the Deep Blue Sea]]''), there are other in-universe examples:

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** A meta-example: Peter Harris' disguised himself in ''Aunt Dimity and the Deep Blue Sea'' as a dark haired young man with glasses named
"Harry Peters" (Peter Harris' disguise in ''[[AuntDimity Aunt Dimity and the Deep Blue Sea]]''), there are other in-universe examples:to avoid hordes of reporters after his grandfather wrote a letter to The Times bragging about him. Hmm, a dark haired young man with glasses plagued by fame...
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* Aside from the meta-example of "Harry Peters" (Peter Harris' disguise in ''[[AuntDimity Aunt Dimity and the Deep Blue Sea]]''), there are other in-universe examples:
** Lori is struck by waves of ''déjà vu'' when she goes to Bluebird, Colorado: many of the locals closely resemble her neighbours in Finch, down to similar-sounding names.
** At the close of one of their conversations on Mistress Meg Redfern in ''Aunt Dimity and the Village Witch'':
--> ''You've grown fond of Mistress Meg, haven't you?''\\
"Yes, I have," I said.\\
''I can understand why. She was independent, bullheaded, energetic...Hmmm...Who does she remind me of?''\\
"Goodnight, Dimity," I said with a wry smile.\\
''Good night, my dear.''


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* In ''The Penderwicks,'' [[LonelyRichKid Jeffrey's]] only friends (as far as we know) are the titular quartet of Penderwick sisters and he is revealed to have a talent for playing music. However, his overbearing mother wants him to go to a military school to follow in his father's footsteps. [[CureYourGays Hmmm...]]
* Used InUniverse in Literature/TheForbiddenGame. After an accident at her Grandfather's house when she was five, Jenny was covered in scratches, her clothes were torn and she refused to talk to anyone. Jenny's friends had been under the assumption that her Grandfather had hurt her before disappearing, but after confronting her memory in the game they eventually find out [[spoiler:it was the Shadow Men.]]

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* In ''The Penderwicks,'' [[LonelyRichKid Jeffrey's]] only friends (as far as we know) are the titular eponymous quartet of Penderwick sisters and he is revealed to have a talent for playing music. However, his overbearing mother wants him to go to a military school to follow in his father's footsteps. [[CureYourGays Hmmm...]]
* Used InUniverse in Literature/TheForbiddenGame. After an accident at her Grandfather's house when she was five, Jenny was covered in scratches, her clothes were torn and she refused to talk to anyone. Jenny's friends had been under the assumption that her Grandfather had hurt her before disappearing, but after confronting her memory in the game they eventually find out [[spoiler:it was the Shadow Men.]]
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* In ''The Penderwicks,'' [[LonelyRichKid Jeffrey's]] only friends (as far as we know) are the titular quartet of Penderwick sisters and he is revealed to have a talent for playing music. However, his overbearing mother wants him to go to a military school to follow in his father's footsteps. [[CureYourGays Hmmm...]]

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* In ''The Penderwicks,'' [[LonelyRichKid Jeffrey's]] only friends (as far as we know) are the titular quartet of Penderwick sisters and he is revealed to have a talent for playing music. However, his overbearing mother wants him to go to a military school to follow in his father's footsteps. [[CureYourGays Hmmm...]]
* Used InUniverse in Literature/TheForbiddenGame. After an accident at her Grandfather's house when she was five, Jenny was covered in scratches, her clothes were torn and she refused to talk to anyone. Jenny's friends had been under the assumption that her Grandfather had hurt her before disappearing, but after confronting her memory in the game they eventually find out [[spoiler:it was the Shadow Men.
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* In ''The Penderwicks,'' [[LonelyRichKid Jeffrey]]'s only friends (as far as we know) are the titular quartet of Penderwick sisters and he is revealed to have a talent for playing music. However, his overbearing mother wants him to go to a military school to follow in his father's footsteps. [[CureYourGays Hmmm...]]

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* In ''The Penderwicks,'' [[LonelyRichKid Jeffrey]]'s Jeffrey's]] only friends (as far as we know) are the titular quartet of Penderwick sisters and he is revealed to have a talent for playing music. However, his overbearing mother wants him to go to a military school to follow in his father's footsteps. [[CureYourGays Hmmm...]]
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* Toward the end of ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'', the vampire forces Mina to [[spoiler:drink some of his blood from his chest]]. The protagonists walking in on this event feel both awkward and enraged. Afterwards, Mina is traumatized and ashamed, and struggles to explain what happened to her husband. She [[UnfortunateImplications laments her doomed soul]] and [[ItsNotRapeIfYouEnjoyedIt blames herself for "wanting" it]].

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* Toward the end of ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'', the vampire forces Mina to [[spoiler:drink some of his blood from his chest]]. The protagonists walking in on this event feel both awkward and enraged. Afterwards, Mina is traumatized and ashamed, and struggles to explain what happened to her husband. She [[UnfortunateImplications laments her doomed soul]] and [[ItsNotRapeIfYouEnjoyedIt [[NotIfTheyEnjoyedItRationalization blames herself for "wanting" it]].
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* In John Green's ''An Abundance of Katherines'', Lindsey has a cave. It seems like more of a short tunnel. She's never had anyone else in there, but she wants the protagonist to go in. She remarks that it's a bit tight, but she'll guide him in. She also notes that she must have overlooked that opening a hundred times before noticing something special around eighth grade, when she started using it whenever she was having "me time".

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* In John Green's ''An Abundance of Katherines'', ''AnAbundanceOfKatherines'', Lindsey has a cave. It seems like more of a short tunnel. She's never had anyone else in there, but she wants the protagonist to go in. She remarks that it's a bit tight, but she'll guide him in. She also notes that she must have overlooked that opening a hundred times before noticing something special around eighth grade, when she started using it whenever she was having "me time".
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*** ''Discworld/{{The Fifth Elephant}}'' makes the point in the same Dwarvish context that "conservative" does ''not'' necessarily mean "extremist".
** ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'' was centered around a conflict between the Westernized Ankh-Morpork and the Arabia-metaphor country of Klatch. Anti-Klatchian prejudice bore a remarkable similarity to the xenophobic ignorance shown against Middle Eastern peoples, and the illogic of this stance is lampooned many, many times.
*** Though the prejudices were less about the modern religious terrorists angle, but about the old British colonial stereotypes.

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*** ''Discworld/{{The Fifth Elephant}}'' ''Discworld/TheFifthElephant'' makes the point in the same Dwarvish context that "conservative" does ''not'' necessarily mean "extremist".
** ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'' was centered around a conflict between the Westernized Ankh-Morpork and the Arabia-metaphor country of Klatch. Anti-Klatchian prejudice bore a remarkable similarity to the xenophobic ignorance shown against Middle Eastern peoples, and the illogic of this stance is lampooned many, many times.
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** In Guards! Guards!, drunk Vimes says (paraphrased): Ah, life... it grabs you... kicks you in the... in the... y'know, thingies... that you have in the mouth... Teeth. That's it.
** Angua wears a leather collar as a part of her everyday clothing and calls her boyfriend "master" (albeit not to his face). She's a werewolf, and has a mild case of dog-like instincts towards humans.
* In the ''{{Taltos}}'' novels, the Teckla rebellion is clearly reminiscent of a communist revolution. In fact, in one book, a ridiculously long-lived character actually seems familiar with Marx's text and makes this comparison.

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** In Guards! Guards!, drunk Vimes says (paraphrased): Ah, life... it grabs you... kicks you in the... in the... y'know, thingies... that you have in the mouth... Teeth. That's it.
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** Angua wears a leather collar as a part of her everyday clothing and calls her boyfriend "master" (albeit not to his face). She's a werewolf, and has a mild case of dog-like instincts towards humans.
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* In ''{{Lord of the Flies}}'', there is a scene with a mother pig, whom the boys force away from her piglets, and then spear. This is reminiscent of some soldiers [[spoiler:who have just gone AWOL, as Jack and his tribe have just left the main group]] gang-raping a mother. A few quotes, in chronological order:

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* In ''{{Lord of the Flies}}'', ''LordOfTheFlies'', there is a scene with a mother pig, whom the boys force away from her piglets, and then spear. This is reminiscent of some soldiers [[spoiler:who have just gone AWOL, as Jack and his tribe have just left the main group]] gang-raping a mother. A few quotes, in chronological order:



* Toward the end of ''{{Literature/Dracula}}'', the vampire forces Mina to [[spoiler:drink some of his blood from his chest]]. The protagonists walking in on this event feel both awkward and enraged. Afterwards, Mina is traumatized and ashamed, and struggles to explain what happened to her husband. She [[UnfortunateImplications laments her doomed soul]] and [[ItsNotRapeIfYouEnjoyedIt blames herself for "wanting" it]].

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* Toward the end of ''{{Literature/Dracula}}'', ''Literature/{{Dracula}}'', the vampire forces Mina to [[spoiler:drink some of his blood from his chest]]. The protagonists walking in on this event feel both awkward and enraged. Afterwards, Mina is traumatized and ashamed, and struggles to explain what happened to her husband. She [[UnfortunateImplications laments her doomed soul]] and [[ItsNotRapeIfYouEnjoyedIt blames herself for "wanting" it]].



* In ''The Dresden Files'' the eternal rivalry between the Summer and Winter courts of the fairies bears more than a passing resemblance to the Cold War between America and Russia. Both sides are pretty much equal in strength, and it's clear that a full scale conflict between them would, in the most likely scenario, largely wipe both sides out and send the world into a new ice age, but if it looks like one side's showing weakness ... well, they just ''have'' to exploit it. That's what archenemies do, right?

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* In ''The Dresden Files'' the eternal rivalry between the Summer and Winter courts of the fairies bears more than a passing resemblance to the Cold War between America and Russia. Both sides are pretty much equal in strength, and it's clear that a full scale conflict between them would, in the most likely scenario, largely wipe both sides out and send the world into a new ice age, but if it looks like one side's showing weakness ... well, they just ''have'' to exploit it. That's what archenemies do, right? right?



* RoaldDahl's ''TheWitches'' includes a scene where the protagonist is dragged out of hiding by a group of witches and force-fed a potion as they hold him down.

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* RoaldDahl's Creator/RoaldDahl's ''TheWitches'' includes a scene where the protagonist is dragged out of hiding by a group of witches and force-fed a potion as they hold him down.



--> Orion Pax listened, and cataloged, and archived, and indexed, but his mind was not on his work... Who was this Megatron, this gladiator thug, killer of criminals and criminal himself, who gave voice to a longing that Orion Pax had never known he felt?

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--> Orion Pax listened, and cataloged, and archived, and indexed, but his mind was not on his work... Who was this Megatron, this gladiator thug, killer of criminals and criminal himself, who gave voice to a longing that Orion Pax had never known he felt? felt?



* ''GoblinMarket'' is full of this trope, sometimes disturbingly so, with multiple scenes that suggest a connection between the consumption of food and seduction or attempted rape.

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* ''GoblinMarket'' is full of this trope, sometimes disturbingly so, with multiple scenes that suggest a connection between the consumption of food and seduction or attempted rape.



** That has more to do with the fact that the {{Inheritance Cycle}} page is really biased against it

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** That has more to do with the fact that the {{Inheritance Cycle}} InheritanceCycle page is really biased against it



* [[Literature/{{Twilight}} New Moon]] has young men literally exploding out of their clothes when they turn into animals. Predatory animals.

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** Wasn't that part of Venerian culture in Heinlein's Space Cadet?



* DrSeuss' ''The Butter Battle Book'' concerns two peoples split by a trivial ideological difference (which side toast should be buttered on), locked in an arms race that escalates to the point that if either side actually acts, both will be destroyed. If this sounds ''exactly'' like the ColdWar as seen by its detractors, congratulations, you just got the point of the book.

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* DrSeuss' ''The Butter Battle Book'' concerns two peoples split by a [[SillyReasonForWar trivial ideological difference difference]] (which side toast should be buttered on), locked in an arms race that escalates to the point that if either side actually acts, both will be destroyed. If this sounds ''exactly'' like the ColdWar as seen by its detractors, congratulations, you just got the point of the book.


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* In ''TheMagiciansNephew'', [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique the Deplorable Word]] is a dark spell that quite obviously a ''[[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped very]]'' {{Anvilicious}} [[FantasticNuke depiction of the nuke]].
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* In the eighth LightNovel of SuzumiyaHaruhi, Haruhi tries to get the last page of Kyon's short story because she wants to know the aftermath of the date. He unconsciously touches his blazer, and Haruhi, being the GenreSavvy girl, immediately works out where he hid it and wrestles him to the floor, in [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_%28grappling%29 this position.]] Followed soon after by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guard_(grappling) this position.]] Guess what came to Mikuru's mind when she walks in on this. You're right.
* In Jasper Fforde's ''The Fourth Bear'', the MP Sherman Bartholomew built his reputation on being the first openly gay Member of Parliament, but is secretly straight. His husband is aware of his dalliances with women, and has agreed to support him if any of them were to become public knowledge. The same book also featured [[TalkingAnimal talking bears]] who developed addictions to honey and porridge, which were therefore controlled substances.
* In the ''{{Discworld}}'' series:
** The prejudice shown by traditionalist dwarfs to those who [[OneGenderRace admit to being female]] is portrayed in a way that reflects reactionary attitudes to feminism, homosexuality, and transsexuality.
** In ''Discworld/{{Thud}}'', on the other hand, the clash of ideals between moderate and extremist dwarven factions closely resembles similar conflicts in the history of religion, Islam being the most prominent one recently.
*** ''Discworld/{{The Fifth Elephant}}'' makes the point in the same Dwarvish context that "conservative" does ''not'' necessarily mean "extremist".
** ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'' was centered around a conflict between the Westernized Ankh-Morpork and the Arabia-metaphor country of Klatch. Anti-Klatchian prejudice bore a remarkable similarity to the xenophobic ignorance shown against Middle Eastern peoples, and the illogic of this stance is lampooned many, many times.
*** Though the prejudices were less about the modern religious terrorists angle, but about the old British colonial stereotypes.
** There's also the Black Ribbon Society, a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent group of vampires which have pledged to give up blood]], which is clearly meant to be similar to Alcoholics Anonymous.
** In Guards! Guards!, drunk Vimes says (paraphrased): Ah, life... it grabs you... kicks you in the... in the... y'know, thingies... that you have in the mouth... Teeth. That's it.
** Angua wears a leather collar as a part of her everyday clothing and calls her boyfriend "master" (albeit not to his face). She's a werewolf, and has a mild case of dog-like instincts towards humans.
* In the ''{{Taltos}}'' novels, the Teckla rebellion is clearly reminiscent of a communist revolution. In fact, in one book, a ridiculously long-lived character actually seems familiar with Marx's text and makes this comparison.
* ''{{Dune}}'''s whole "desert planet where everybody speaks Arabic with the most important substance in the galaxy" thing.
** It's named ''Arrakis''. [[hottip:*:Which comes from the traditional name of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_Draconis Mu Draconis]], which comes from the Arabic ''al-Raqis'', "The Dancer". Yes, we know that Arrakis orbits Canopus, another star entirely.]] I think that's [[{{Anvilicious}} a bit more than reminding]].
* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': See what this sounds like: An eleven-year-old girl exchanges messages with an older stranger she has never met in real life. It's so easy! She enters her thoughts and he immediately transmits back. She confides in him, but he's really using her and preying on her insecurities. He makes her do horrible things for him which she doesn't want to do, but she still doesn't tell anyone. Finally, he meets her in person and nearly kills her. After she's been rescued, her father chides her for knowing better than to trust someone like that.
** More blatantly, the werewolf Fenrir Greyback seems to have some pretty heavy "sexual predator" undertones, what with all his salivating over young children and whatnot.
* In John Green's ''An Abundance of Katherines'', Lindsey has a cave. It seems like more of a short tunnel. She's never had anyone else in there, but she wants the protagonist to go in. She remarks that it's a bit tight, but she'll guide him in. She also notes that she must have overlooked that opening a hundred times before noticing something special around eighth grade, when she started using it whenever she was having "me time".
* In John H. Ritter's ''Choosing Up Sides'', 13-years-old Luke's left-handedness is treated in the same manner as homosexuality. His father has always tried to correct his tendencies, for fear he'll go to Hell, and Luke believes for a while that he can change if he tries hard enough. His uncle even tells him there's no point in trying; he's simply "oriented that way".
* There was SF short story in which people would regularly have sex in public, pay for sex, and treat sex as a generally essential part of life... but ate in private and were ashamed if anyone found out they'd paid someone to cook for them.
** Wasn't that part of Venerian culture in Heinlein's Space Cadet?
* Anything and everything that happens or is discussed in ''Literature/InvisibleMan'' has something to do with race relations, from the ingredients in the paint the main character helps to make, to the cast-iron bank he keeps trying to get rid of. It gets more than a little {{Anvilicious}} at times.
* In ''{{Lord of the Flies}}'', there is a scene with a mother pig, whom the boys force away from her piglets, and then spear. This is reminiscent of some soldiers [[spoiler:who have just gone AWOL, as Jack and his tribe have just left the main group]] gang-raping a mother. A few quotes, in chronological order:
-->The spear moved forward inch by inch and the terrified squealing became a high-pitched scream.
-->Then Jack grabbed Maurice and rubbed the stuff all over his cheeks.
-->"Right up her ass!" [One of the boys is bragging about where he managed to get his [[FreudWasRight spear]].]
* Toward the end of ''{{Literature/Dracula}}'', the vampire forces Mina to [[spoiler:drink some of his blood from his chest]]. The protagonists walking in on this event feel both awkward and enraged. Afterwards, Mina is traumatized and ashamed, and struggles to explain what happened to her husband. She [[UnfortunateImplications laments her doomed soul]] and [[ItsNotRapeIfYouEnjoyedIt blames herself for "wanting" it]].
** There's a fair bit of this in the novel. Jonathan's little teeny tiny budding man-crush on his host (Wow, he'd make such a good lawyer! He's got such a big library! What a cool guy!) seems to disappear after the incident with the Brides -- which comes across, for one not already expecting vampiric goings-on, to be the Count having a jealous fit about someone else getting to (ahem) ''kiss'' his guest.
** Well, vampirism ''was'' a way to get away with writing sexual stories. And Bram Stoker, the author was known to have a correspondence with Walt Whitman that included a "dirty letter".
* In ''The Dresden Files'' the eternal rivalry between the Summer and Winter courts of the fairies bears more than a passing resemblance to the Cold War between America and Russia. Both sides are pretty much equal in strength, and it's clear that a full scale conflict between them would, in the most likely scenario, largely wipe both sides out and send the world into a new ice age, but if it looks like one side's showing weakness ... well, they just ''have'' to exploit it. That's what archenemies do, right?
* In ''TheWitcher'' novels the presence of the Witchers can be sensed as a tingling sensation by sensitive people. There's a reason why they all seem to attract the opposite sex quite a bit. Likewise, in ''The Blood of the Elves'' a 13-year old girl learning to be a sorceress draws power from the earth, an experience that's described in a manner reminiscent of menstrual cramps and concluding in an orgasm.
* RoaldDahl's ''TheWitches'' includes a scene where the protagonist is dragged out of hiding by a group of witches and force-fed a potion as they hold him down.
* A very, very likely unintended example:
--> Orion Pax listened, and cataloged, and archived, and indexed, but his mind was not on his work... Who was this Megatron, this gladiator thug, killer of criminals and criminal himself, who gave voice to a longing that Orion Pax had never known he felt?
---> ''Transformers: Exodus''
** Still, it's one of those things where you desperately want to ask how no one looked at it and went, "Hey, guys, this kind of sounds like a romance novel set-up..."
* ''GoblinMarket'' is full of this trope, sometimes disturbingly so, with multiple scenes that suggest a connection between the consumption of food and seduction or attempted rape.
* In ''TheBerenstainBears'' book about the Beanie Babies, The Bears go over to the Bear City, to a Bears R Us, to a long line, and the narration actually mentions two dads who are being arrested for getting into a fight. That was probably one of the more grittier elements of the usually light-hearted books.
** In another book, The Berenstein Bears and the Sleepover, the Sleepover that Sister Bear is attending ends up going way out of control to the extent that the police arrive shortly thereafter and the parents take the children home to punish them, and then they have to clean up the mess. Gee, that sounds like something from a stereotypical Party House from one of those high school films like ''{{Superbad}}''.
* Ever notice how, in the ''{{Redwall}}'' series, the ''male'' villains are always trying to steal the supposedly magical Sword, yet the ''female'' villains ignore it completely, with the exception of Tsarmina, who [[GroinAttack broke it in half and imprisoned its owner]]?
* Detractors like to say this about the ''InheritanceCycle'', claiming that Paolini copied plot points or even the entire storyline wholesale from other, better books or movies. This is somewhat helped along by the fact that the plot synopsis on this very wiki's page for the series was constructed to read like a {{Troperiffic}} plot synopsis of ''StarWars''.
** That has more to do with the fact that the {{Inheritance Cycle}} page is really biased against it
* DrSeuss' ''The Butter Battle Book'' concerns two peoples split by a trivial ideological difference (which side toast should be buttered on), locked in an arms race that escalates to the point that if either side actually acts, both will be destroyed. If this sounds ''exactly'' like the ColdWar as seen by its detractors, congratulations, you just got the point of the book.
** ''The Sneeches'' is this trope about racism. There are Star-belly Sneeches and Star-less Sneeches, and the Star-Belly Sneeches have cookouts and picnics that the Star-less Sneeches are excluded from and generally look down on the Sneeches without stars.
* DH Lawrence's Women in Love has Gerald Crich, the typical manly man. In one of the scenes, he's shown riding a horse, and a train comes by. The horse is naturally afraid of the noise, but Gerald holds her there and forces her to endure it. The way it's written makes it sound like a rape scene, and it's very unsettling.
* [[Literature/{{Twilight}} New Moon]] has young men literally exploding out of their clothes when they turn into animals. Predatory animals.
** Eclipse has two instances of one of those young men "showing his love" by forcing himself on a girl, just in case we didn't get it the first time.
* In ''The Penderwicks,'' [[LonelyRichKid Jeffrey]]'s only friends (as far as we know) are the titular quartet of Penderwick sisters and he is revealed to have a talent for playing music. However, his overbearing mother wants him to go to a military school to follow in his father's footsteps. [[CureYourGays Hmmm...]]

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