History Discontinuity / VideoGames

27th Aug '16 12:29:29 AM ADrago
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** And then there are fans who want to ignore ''WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog'' for [[MemeticMutation snooPING AS usual to say "That's no good!"]]



** For many fans, ''VideoGame/HotelMario'' doesn't exist, and neither does TheMovie [[VideoGameMoviesSuck for obvious reasons]]. ''[=GameNow=]'' magazine dubbed those the most embarrassing moments respectively for Mario and Luigi. This group also wants to omit [[WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosSuperShow all]] [[WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfSuperMarioBros3 three]] [[WesternAnimation/SuperMarioWorld Mario cartoons]] and argue that Luigi's first starring role was ''VideoGame/LuigisMansion'' rather than ''VideoGame/MarioIsMissing''

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** For many fans, ''VideoGame/HotelMario'' doesn't exist, and neither does TheMovie [[VideoGameMoviesSuck for obvious reasons]]. ''[=GameNow=]'' magazine dubbed those the most embarrassing moments respectively for Mario and Luigi. This group also wants to omit [[WesternAnimation/TheSuperMarioBrosSuperShow all]] [[WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfSuperMarioBros3 three]] [[WesternAnimation/SuperMarioWorld Mario cartoons]] and exist.
** Many fans
argue that Luigi's first starring role was ''VideoGame/LuigisMansion'' rather than ''VideoGame/MarioIsMissing''''VideoGame/MarioIsMissing''.



** Others consider [[WesternAnimation/StreetFighter the cartoon]] non-canon and would rather say "[[MemeticMutation YES! YES!]]" if it were forgotten. Considering that the show [[BroadStrokes borrows heavily from]] [[Film/StreetFighter the live-action movie]] (though with more faithfulness to the games in terms of character design, abilities, and some backstories), it's doubtful the 90s ''Street Fighter'' cartoon was ever intended to have any sort of canonical bearing on the series as a whole.
26th Aug '16 2:36:51 PM thecarolinabull01
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* Despite Warner Bros. and Rocksteady Studios confirming that ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'' is a legit prequel to ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'' and ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'', many fans absolutely refuse to consider it canon due to its glitches, minor continuity errors and its development by Warner Bros. Montreal. ''Videogame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' contains several [[ContinuityNod Continuity Nods]] to ''Origins'', so ''Origins'' is confirmed canon at this point.

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* Despite Warner Bros. and Rocksteady Studios confirming that ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins'' is a legit prequel to ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'' and ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'', many fans absolutely refuse to consider it canon due to its glitches, minor continuity errors and its development by Warner Bros. Montreal. ''Videogame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' contains several [[ContinuityNod Continuity Nods]] to ''Origins'', so ''Origins'' is confirmed canon at this point. Some still don't acknowledge it as canon and ''Arkham Origins'' was excluded from the upcoming CompilationRerelease titled ''Return to Arkham'', leading ''Origins'' fans to believe that WB have gone back on their word and officially declared ''Origins'' CanonDiscontinuity.
23rd Aug '16 11:41:04 AM pinkdalek
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** ''VideoGame/MetalGearSurvive'' was disowned about the second it was announced. It's far from the first ''Metal Gear'' AlternateContinuity GaidenGame made without Creator/HideoKojima's input, but it ''was'' the first ''Metal Gear'' game produced after Creator/HideoKojima's sacking from Konami, causing many fans to immediately dismiss it as a FranchiseZombie. The fact that it was a [[ClicheStorm co-op zombie survival game starring generic characters and a lot of gore]] was also mocked as being uncreative and boring - many game websites pointed out that it is testament to how weird ''Metal Gear'' is that a game featuring crystal zombies and trans-dimensional wormholes came off as boring.
9th Aug '16 11:19:23 PM Anddrix
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** For a more specific example, there's Ingrid, who is [[BaseBreaker a polarizing figure within the fanbase]] because of her CommonMarySueTraits and, more recently, her status as the linchpin of (the [[CriticalDissonance poorly-received]]) ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken''[='s=] plot due to the creation of Pandora. As Ingrid was a crossover character from ''VideoGame/CapcomFightingEvolution'' and her story in ''Alpha 3 MAX'' doesn't mesh with the canonical events of that game, it's pretty easy for fans to dismiss the idea of a time-traveling sun goddess from whom Bison somehow stole his Psycho Power (or created a cheap corruption of).

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** For a more specific example, there's Ingrid, who is [[BaseBreaker a polarizing figure within the fanbase]] fanbase because of her CommonMarySueTraits and, more recently, her status as the linchpin of (the [[CriticalDissonance poorly-received]]) ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken''[='s=] plot due to the creation of Pandora. As Ingrid was a crossover character from ''VideoGame/CapcomFightingEvolution'' and her story in ''Alpha 3 MAX'' doesn't mesh with the canonical events of that game, it's pretty easy for fans to dismiss the idea of a time-traveling sun goddess from whom Bison somehow stole his Psycho Power (or created a cheap corruption of).
30th Jul '16 3:52:28 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''UltimaIX: Ascension''? Ask a lot of the fans of the series, and they'll tell you it didn't happen. Or ''UltimaVIII: Pagan'' for that matter. Some also choose to ignore the first few games of the series, saying Ultima is only games 4-7. There was later a fan dialogue patch for ''Ultima IX'' to try and get the game closer to ''Ultima'' canon.

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* ''UltimaIX: ''VideoGame/UltimaIX: Ascension''? Ask a lot of the fans of the series, and they'll tell you it didn't happen. Or ''UltimaVIII: ''VideoGame/UltimaVIII: Pagan'' for that matter. Some also choose to ignore the first few games of the series, saying Ultima is only games 4-7. There was later a fan dialogue patch for ''Ultima IX'' to try and get the game closer to ''Ultima'' canon.



* Old school fans of the ''BackyardSports'' series think all games after online play was removed did not happen.

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* Old school fans of the ''BackyardSports'' ''VideoGame/BackyardSports'' series think all games after online play was removed did not happen.
22nd Jul '16 11:22:26 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Despite being a stand-alone continuity one-shot, ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsK'' is the only DS entry skipped by most fans due to many aspects of the game being [[TheyJustDidntCare handled clumsily]].

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** Despite being a stand-alone continuity one-shot, ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsK'' is the only DS entry skipped by most fans due to many aspects of the game being [[TheyJustDidntCare handled clumsily]].clumsily.



* Try to find a ''VideoGame/JakAndDaxter'' fan who likes ''The Lost Frontier'' and accepts it as canon. They are far and few between. Reasons most often cited are that it was made by a different developer than Creator/NaughtyDog, many events go against what has been established in the previous games, and characters behave completely out of their norm. It also doesn't help when it seems the developers [[TheyJustDidntCare just didn't care]] when they make glaring errors in the booklet (Misty Island is called Mysterious Island; Haven City becomes Heaven City). Some fans see it as an AlternateUniverse so they can play it without getting too worked up about the inconsistencies. There are also fans that cut off the canon earlier--some accept nothing after the third game because of the GenreShift to a combat racer, and others refuse to accept anything but the original game because of the GenreShift from lighthearted platformer to grittier shooter/sandbox-platformer.

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* Try to find a ''VideoGame/JakAndDaxter'' fan who likes ''The Lost Frontier'' and accepts it as canon. They are far and few between. Reasons most often cited are that it was made by a different developer than Creator/NaughtyDog, many events go against what has been established in the previous games, and characters behave completely out of their norm. It also doesn't help when it seems the developers [[TheyJustDidntCare just didn't care]] care when they make glaring errors in the booklet (Misty Island is called Mysterious Island; Haven City becomes Heaven City). Some fans see it as an AlternateUniverse so they can play it without getting too worked up about the inconsistencies. There are also fans that cut off the canon earlier--some accept nothing after the third game because of the GenreShift to a combat racer, and others refuse to accept anything but the original game because of the GenreShift from lighthearted platformer to grittier shooter/sandbox-platformer.
10th Jul '16 12:17:26 PM nombretomado
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** The general response to the novel ''[[Literature/MassEffectDeception Mass Effect: Deception]]'' has been extremely negative, with an almost universal refusal to accept the book as canon. The novel was so poorly received that there is a site that list all the continuity errors in it and the Mass Effect Wiki even issued an open letter to BioWare that requested it be declared CanonDiscontinuity. [=BioWare=] announced that they'll will correct the errors in an subsequent revision.

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** The general response to the novel ''[[Literature/MassEffectDeception Mass Effect: Deception]]'' has been extremely negative, with an almost universal refusal to accept the book as canon. The novel was so poorly received that there is a site that list all the continuity errors in it and the Mass Effect Wiki even issued an open letter to BioWare Creator/BioWare that requested it be declared CanonDiscontinuity. [=BioWare=] announced that they'll will correct the errors in an subsequent revision.



* Playing ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic''? It's not a matter of ''if'' you throw out some of the canon, it's ''when.'' Some do it in the first screen of the game by choosing a ''female'' Revan. Others cringe at the Bastila romance arc or think the Light Side ending was jarring in light of the BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood stunt the Jedi Council pulled. Second game? Well, LucasArts made the Exile female as an apology over the controversy in declaring Revan a guy, but tell it to players who tend to play Exile as a guy! (The Handmaiden having much better CharacterDevelopment than the Disciple helps.) The book ''Revan'' is also looked upon with massive controversy. Either you think the Sith Emperor is the scariest thing ever, or he's every BioWare villain cliche in one package. There's enough annoyance about MMO games in general for some fans to ignore the rest just based on that, but when you get into ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' and you find the Exile reduced to a passive, non-entity of a Force Ghost hanging on only to comfort Revan (a guy who betrayed Exile on several levels) and Revan launching a genocidal campaign with a Rakata robot factory to kill off 98% of the Imperial population. And the [[VillainProtagonist Imperial]] players are the ones [[NiceJobFixingItVillain saving the galaxy by putting him down like a rabid mutt?]] Pick your cutoff.

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* Playing ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic''? It's not a matter of ''if'' you throw out some of the canon, it's ''when.'' Some do it in the first screen of the game by choosing a ''female'' Revan. Others cringe at the Bastila romance arc or think the Light Side ending was jarring in light of the BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood stunt the Jedi Council pulled. Second game? Well, LucasArts made the Exile female as an apology over the controversy in declaring Revan a guy, but tell it to players who tend to play Exile as a guy! (The Handmaiden having much better CharacterDevelopment than the Disciple helps.) The book ''Revan'' is also looked upon with massive controversy. Either you think the Sith Emperor is the scariest thing ever, or he's every BioWare Creator/BioWare villain cliche in one package. There's enough annoyance about MMO games in general for some fans to ignore the rest just based on that, but when you get into ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' and you find the Exile reduced to a passive, non-entity of a Force Ghost hanging on only to comfort Revan (a guy who betrayed Exile on several levels) and Revan launching a genocidal campaign with a Rakata robot factory to kill off 98% of the Imperial population. And the [[VillainProtagonist Imperial]] players are the ones [[NiceJobFixingItVillain saving the galaxy by putting him down like a rabid mutt?]] Pick your cutoff.
26th Jun '16 1:55:54 PM Silverblade2
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** It's a matter of divided fanbase all over the place with ''Metroid''. You'll find few enough fans that will accept everything (except ''Pinball'' which was indisputably a non-canon spin-off). Some ignore the first game in lieu of ''Super Metroid'', some ignore the ''Metroid Prime'' series altogether, some accept ''Prime'', but will not accept ''Prime: Hunters'', some will ignore the first game's status in canon in lieu of ''Zero Mission'', some will ignore all the later Sakamoto works (''Fusion'', ''Zero Mission'', and ''Other M''), and others ignore ''Other M'' alone.

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** It's a matter of divided fanbase all over the place with ''Metroid''. You'll find few enough fans that will accept everything (except ''Pinball'' which was indisputably a non-canon spin-off). Some ignore the first game in lieu of ''Super Metroid'', some ignore the ''Metroid Prime'' series altogether, some accept ''Prime'', but will not accept ''Prime: Hunters'', some will ignore the first game's status in canon in lieu of ''Zero Mission'', some will ignore all the later Sakamoto works (''Fusion'', ''Zero Mission'', and ''Other M''), and others ignore ''Other M'' alone.
18th Jun '16 8:41:13 AM MysteriousZorua1994
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** Worst of all, just about "[[VocalMinority every single fan]]" hated ''VideoGame/{{Skylanders}}'' due to its LighterAndSofter content, as well as being a reboot. A good portion are also FanHaters, since many fans who've defended ''Skylanders'' have been subjected to bullying by them. (That said, considering ''Skylanders'' to be a separate series that just happens to have a few characters in common with ''Spyro'' is a pretty fair assessment.)

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** Worst of all, just about "[[VocalMinority every single fan]]" hated ''VideoGame/{{Skylanders}}'' due to its LighterAndSofter content, as well as being a reboot. A good portion are also FanHaters, {{Fan Hater}}s, since many fans who've defended ''Skylanders'' have been subjected to bullying by them. (That said, considering ''Skylanders'' to be a separate series that just happens to have a few characters in common with ''Spyro'' is a pretty fair assessment.)
18th Jun '16 8:40:10 AM MysteriousZorua1994
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** Worst of all, just about every single fan hated ''VideoGame/{{Skylanders}}'' due to its LighterAndSofter content, as well as being a reboot. Although a few defended ''Skylanders'', they were often [[http://www.khwiki.net/User_talk:Troisnyxetienne/2011-3#A_Jerk_on_YouTube bullied]]. (That said, considering ''Skylanders'' to be a separate series that just happens to have a few characters in common with ''Spyro'' is a pretty fair assessment.)

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** Worst of all, just about "[[VocalMinority every single fan fan]]" hated ''VideoGame/{{Skylanders}}'' due to its LighterAndSofter content, as well as being a reboot. Although a few A good portion are also FanHaters, since many fans who've defended ''Skylanders'', they were often [[http://www.khwiki.net/User_talk:Troisnyxetienne/2011-3#A_Jerk_on_YouTube bullied]].''Skylanders'' have been subjected to bullying by them. (That said, considering ''Skylanders'' to be a separate series that just happens to have a few characters in common with ''Spyro'' is a pretty fair assessment.)
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