History Discontinuity / VideoGames

19th Sep '17 11:28:28 AM Rytex
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*** However, then came the release of ''VideoGame/MetroidSamusReturns'', the long-awaited UpdatedRerelease of ''Metroid II'', which finally gave the game a massive audience, tied the ''Prime'' games to the original trilogy, and managed to convey a surprising amount of emotion with zero dialogue and only background and body language (the scene between Samus and the baby Metroid is just ''oodles'' of d'awwww). It has shown Sakamoto is willing to backtrack and appease the fans if they express displeasure at something in one of the games, it appeased the fans after the takedown of ''VideoGame/AnotherMetroid2Remake'', and has surpassed the original in quality by far.
17th Sep '17 2:03:06 AM SeptimusHeap
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** The first game, ''Highly Responsive to Prayers'', came before there was supposed to be a series, and it shows. It was a [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness completely different genre]], having more in common with ''{{Arkanoid}}'' then with the later games (though the ContinuityReboot wiped the PC-98 games from canon anyway).

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** The first game, ''Highly Responsive to Prayers'', came before there was supposed to be a series, and it shows. It was a [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness completely different genre]], having more in common with ''{{Arkanoid}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Arkanoid}}'' then with the later games (though the ContinuityReboot wiped the PC-98 games from canon anyway).
16th Sep '17 12:41:18 PM nombretomado
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** Reaction to the fifth game, ''A Hero's Tail'' varies; some like it for the platforming gameplay and new characters, some dislike it ''because'' of the new characters- and, of course, because it wasn't part of the original trilogy. Some purists accept it, many don't. The same applies to the GameBoyAdvance games made by Digital Eclipse, some like them and consider them faithful to Insomniac's trilogy ([[ApprovalOfGod including Ted Price]]), while others either dislike the isometric perspective or hate them for not being made by Insomniac.

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** Reaction to the fifth game, ''A Hero's Tail'' varies; some like it for the platforming gameplay and new characters, some dislike it ''because'' of the new characters- and, of course, because it wasn't part of the original trilogy. Some purists accept it, many don't. The same applies to the GameBoyAdvance UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance games made by Digital Eclipse, some like them and consider them faithful to Insomniac's trilogy ([[ApprovalOfGod including Ted Price]]), while others either dislike the isometric perspective or hate them for not being made by Insomniac.
31st Aug '17 10:58:47 PM KingArgorok
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** Some fans dislike ''Cross'' enough to ignore the DS remake of ''Trigger'', which includes new content that canonically ties the first game's story to the latter to the outcome seen in the latter game.
** Many fans were not pleased when the DS remake canonized [[spoiler:Dalton]] as the agent for Guardia's destruction.

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** Some fans dislike ''Cross'' enough to ignore the DS remake port of ''Trigger'', which includes new content that canonically ties the first game's story to the latter to the outcome seen in the latter game.
** Many fans were not pleased when the DS remake port canonized [[spoiler:Dalton]] as the agent for Guardia's destruction.
13th Aug '17 6:12:02 PM infernape612
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** The ending of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots'' features a final twist that casts, not just the events of that game, but the events of the ''whole franchise'' in a very different light, at the cost of some of the emotional impact of the events of that game in particular. Then there was the announcement that ''Metal Gear Solid: Rising' would be on the 360. The game wasn't even announced for more than an hour before [=PS3=] fanboys in general said they wouldn't buy it even if it did get a [=PS3=] version. After it was picked up by Creator/PlatinumGames, it was considered non-canon for completely different reasons altogether. But then [[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance it actually came out]], and most of that went away.

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** The ending of ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots'' features a final twist that casts, not just the events of that game, but the events of the ''whole franchise'' in a very different light, at the cost of some of the emotional impact of the events of that game in particular. Then there was the announcement that ''Metal Gear Solid: Rising' Rising'' would be on the 360. The game wasn't even announced for more than an hour before [=PS3=] fanboys in general said they wouldn't buy it even if it did get a [=PS3=] version. After it was picked up by Creator/PlatinumGames, it was considered non-canon for completely different reasons altogether. But then [[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance it actually came out]], and most of that went away.
9th Jul '17 3:46:07 PM Redsteck
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** ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog4'' had Sega state that Sonic and Knuckles' stories in ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog3'' take place at the exact same time. Nearly every Sonic fan laughed at the statement, citing [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_3_%26_Knuckles_chronology_and_endings just how impossible it would be]] for events for both characters to happen at once. It doesn't help that ''Sonic the Hedgehog 4'' itself is discontinued by longtime fans as well, especially with "VideoGame/SonicMania" shaping up to be the Sonic 4 fans truly hoped for.

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** ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog4'' had Sega state that Sonic and Knuckles' stories in ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog3'' take place at the exact same time. Nearly every Sonic fan laughed at the statement, citing [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_3_%26_Knuckles_chronology_and_endings just how impossible it would be]] for events for both characters to happen at once. It doesn't help that ''Sonic the Hedgehog 4'' itself is discontinued by longtime fans as well, especially with "VideoGame/SonicMania" ''VideoGame/SonicMania'' shaping up to be the Sonic 4 fans truly hoped for.
9th Jul '17 3:45:09 PM Redsteck
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** ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog4'' had Sega state that Sonic and Knuckles' stories in ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog3'' take place at the exact same time. Nearly every Sonic fan laughed at the statement, citing [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_3_%26_Knuckles_chronology_and_endings just how impossible it would be]] for events for both characters to happen at once. It doesn't help that ''Sonic the Hedgehog 4'' itself is discontinued by longtime fans as well.

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** ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog4'' had Sega state that Sonic and Knuckles' stories in ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog3'' take place at the exact same time. Nearly every Sonic fan laughed at the statement, citing [[http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_3_%26_Knuckles_chronology_and_endings just how impossible it would be]] for events for both characters to happen at once. It doesn't help that ''Sonic the Hedgehog 4'' itself is discontinued by longtime fans as well.well, especially with "VideoGame/SonicMania" shaping up to be the Sonic 4 fans truly hoped for.
6th Jul '17 10:14:43 PM thecarolinabull01
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* Many fans of the ''Videogame/SaintsRow'' series, particularly fans of the [[Videogame/SaintsRow1 first]] [[Videogame/SaintsRow2 two]] games, disregard ''Videogame/SaintsRowTheThird'' and ''Videogame/SaintsRowIV'' due to a case of ReverseCerebusSyndrome cranking up the silliness and a perception of BadassDecay turning the Saints from a badass street gang into pop culture celebrities, and then to the White House. While the latter two games have just as many fans as detractors, the detractors are very vocal and wish for a hypothetical fifth game to erase them from the continuity, which ''Videogame/AgentsOfMayhem'' kind of does.

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* Many fans of the ''Videogame/SaintsRow'' series, particularly fans of the [[Videogame/SaintsRow1 first]] [[Videogame/SaintsRow2 two]] games, disregard ''Videogame/SaintsRowTheThird'' and ''Videogame/SaintsRowIV'' due to a case of ReverseCerebusSyndrome cranking up the silliness and a perception of BadassDecay turning the Saints from a badass street gang into pop culture celebrities, and then to the White House. [[BrokenBase While the latter two games have just as many fans as detractors, detractors]], the detractors are very vocal and wish for a hypothetical fifth game to erase them from the continuity, which ''Videogame/AgentsOfMayhem'' kind of does.
6th Jul '17 10:11:30 PM thecarolinabull01
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* Many fans of the ''Videogame/SaintsRow'' series, particularly fans of the [[Videogame/SaintsRow1 first]] [[Videogame/SaintsRow2 two]] games, disregard ''Videogame/SaintsRowTheThird'' and ''Videogame/SaintsRowIV'' due to a case of ReverseCerebusSyndrome cranking up the silliness and a perception of BadassDecay turning the Saints from a badass street gang into pop culture celebrities, and then to the White House. While the latter two games have just as many fans as detractors, the detractors are very vocal and wish for a hypothetical fifth game to erase them from the continuity, which ''Videogame/AgentsOfMayhem'' kind of does.
4th Jul '17 8:28:11 AM MyFinalEdits
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** A small handful of fans refuses to acknowledge any game using the Toon Link cel-shading style (''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Wind Waker]]'', ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheMinishCap The Minish Cap]]'', ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaFourSwords Four Swords]]'', ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaFourSwordsAdventures Four Swords Adventures]]'', ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaPhantomHourglass Phantom Hourglass]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks Spirit Tracks]]'') as truly being part of the series.

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** A small handful of fans refuses to acknowledge any game using the Toon Link cel-shading style (''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Wind Waker]]'', ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheMinishCap The Minish Cap]]'', ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaFourSwords Four Swords]]'', ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaFourSwordsAdventures Four Swords Adventures]]'', ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaPhantomHourglass Phantom Hourglass]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks Spirit Tracks]]'') as truly being part of the series. ''Four Swords Adventures'' is also often excluded due to the continuity issues, instead viewing it as its own continuity. The depressing implications about [[YouCantFightFate fate being unavoidable]] especially for the Gerudo and Ganondorf is another topic. Essentially Ganondorf is reincarnated, given the name Ganondorf despite having the original having bad reputation, and turns out exactly the same. It helps that Miyamoto actually [[ExecutiveVeto re-wrote the plot]] as a retelling so continuity wouldn't be in mind. Hence trying to fit in the timeline at this point seems like a {{Retcon}} in itself.



** Many fans like to discount ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaFourSwordsAdventures Four Swords Adventures]]'' as part of the timeline due to the continuity issues, instead viewing it as its own continuity. The depressing implications about [[YouCantFightFate fate being unavoidable]] especially for the Gerudo and Ganondorf is another topic. Essentially Ganondorf is reincarnated, given the name Ganondorf despite having the original having bad reputation, and turns out exactly the same. It helps that Miyamoto actually [[ExecutiveVeto re-wrote the plot]] as a retelling so continuity wouldn't be in mind. Hence trying to fit in the timeline at this point seems like a {{Retcon}} in itself.



*** This has gotten even worse after ''VideoGame/Halo5Guardians'' came out, thanks in large part to it [[spoiler:derailing Cortana into a villain and turning ''Halo'' into a generic "AI rebellion" story while simultaneously abandoning a bunch of much more interesting plot threads (the Forerunner-Flood MythArc, the post-Schism Covenant, ONI's shady dealings, etc.)]]. Even many who loved ''Halo 4''[='s=] plot were sorely disappointed, while most fanfic writers seem to have ignored ''5''[='s=] plot altogether in favor of other plot threads.

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*** ** This has gotten even worse after ''VideoGame/Halo5Guardians'' came out, thanks in large part to it [[spoiler:derailing Cortana into a villain and turning ''Halo'' into a generic "AI rebellion" story while simultaneously abandoning a bunch of much more interesting plot threads (the Forerunner-Flood MythArc, the post-Schism Covenant, ONI's shady dealings, etc.)]]. Even many who loved ''Halo 4''[='s=] plot were sorely disappointed, while most fanfic writers seem to have ignored ''5''[='s=] plot altogether in favor of other plot threads.



*** ''3D'' in general gets this from quite a few fans due to its ScrappyMechanic-heavy gameplay as well as its UpToEleven-taking of the series's already-infamous KudzuPlot -- to the point where it's often regarded as the ''Kingdom Hearts'' equivalent of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2''.

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*** ** ''3D'' in general gets this from quite a few fans due to its ScrappyMechanic-heavy gameplay as well as its UpToEleven-taking of the series's already-infamous KudzuPlot -- to the point where it's often regarded as the ''Kingdom Hearts'' equivalent of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2''.
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