History Discontinuity / VideoGames

10th Feb '16 4:54:36 PM MyFinalEdits
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** Reaction to the fifth game, ''A Hero's Tail'' varies; some like it for the platforming gameplay and new characters, some dislike it ''because'' of the new characters- and, of course, because it wasn't part of the original trilogy. Some purists accept it, many don't. *** The same applies to the GameBoyAdvance games made by Digital Eclipse, some like them and consider them faithful to Insomniac's trilogy ([[ApprovalOfGod including Ted Price]]), while others either dislike the isometric perspective or hate them for not being made by Insomniac.
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** Reaction to the fifth game, ''A Hero's Tail'' varies; some like it for the platforming gameplay and new characters, some dislike it ''because'' of the new characters- and, of course, because it wasn't part of the original trilogy. Some purists accept it, many don't. *** don't. The same applies to the GameBoyAdvance games made by Digital Eclipse, some like them and consider them faithful to Insomniac's trilogy ([[ApprovalOfGod including Ted Price]]), while others either dislike the isometric perspective or hate them for not being made by Insomniac.
10th Feb '16 3:14:43 AM Ahearne
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** The same applies to the GameBoyAdvance games made by Digital Eclipse, some like them and consider them faithful to Insomniac's trilogy ([[ApprovalOfGod including Ted Price]]), while others either dislike the isometric perspective or hate them for not being made by Insomniac.
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** *** The same applies to the GameBoyAdvance games made by Digital Eclipse, some like them and consider them faithful to Insomniac's trilogy ([[ApprovalOfGod including Ted Price]]), while others either dislike the isometric perspective or hate them for not being made by Insomniac.
10th Feb '16 3:12:18 AM Ahearne
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Season of Ice was released before Enter the Dragonfly
** Other fans take a step further and disregard anything past the first three games. Given that the fourth was by a different developer and had a [[ObviousBeta sharp quality nosedive]], the cut-off point is fairly clear and most fans [[JumpedTheShark don't care to know what happened afterwards]].
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** Other fans take a step further and disregard anything past the first three games. Given that the fourth next console game was by a different developer and had a [[ObviousBeta sharp quality nosedive]], the cut-off point is fairly clear and most fans [[JumpedTheShark don't care to know what happened afterwards]].

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** Other fans take a step further The same applies to the GameBoyAdvance games made by Digital Eclipse, some like them and disregard anything past consider them faithful to Insomniac's trilogy ([[ApprovalOfGod including Ted Price]]), while others either dislike the first three games. Given that the fourth was isometric perspective or hate them for not being made by a different developer and had a [[ObviousBeta sharp quality nosedive]], the cut-off point is fairly clear and most fans [[JumpedTheShark don't care to know what happened afterwards]].Insomniac.
29th Jan '16 4:52:09 AM CodenameD
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added thief 3 references
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** That's saying something considering that the [[VideoGame/ThiefDeadlyShadows the third game]] was also made by a different studio (after the original developers closed their doors) and came with it's own disappointments, but was still considered by many to be much more faithful to the thief franchise than [[VideoGame/{{Thief 2014}} the 2014 game]].
23rd Jan '16 8:35:12 PM Willbyr
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* Some fans choose to believe that ''ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'' never happened, mainly because of [[ReplacementScrappy the new protagonist]] and what happened to Phoenix (both in terms of events and [[CharacterDerailment characterization]]), despite WordOfGod specifically stating it was not in an Alternate Universe.
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* Some fans choose to believe that ''ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'' ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'' never happened, mainly because of [[ReplacementScrappy the new protagonist]] and what happened to Phoenix (both in terms of events and [[CharacterDerailment characterization]]), despite WordOfGod specifically stating it was not in an Alternate Universe.
9th Jan '16 5:03:45 PM mlsmithca
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Cutting per TRS.
** For a more specific example, there's Ingrid, who is [[BaseBreaker a polarizing figure within the fanbase]] because of her CommonMarySueTraits and, more recently, her status as the linchpin of (the [[CriticalDissonance poorly]]-[[ParvumOpus received]]) ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken''[='s=] plot due to the creation of Pandora. As Ingrid was a crossover character from ''VideoGame/CapcomFightingEvolution'' and her story in ''Alpha 3 MAX'' doesn't mesh with the canonical events of that game, it's pretty easy for fans to dismiss the idea of a time-traveling sun goddess from whom Bison somehow stole his Psycho Power (or created a cheap corruption of).
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** For a more specific example, there's Ingrid, who is [[BaseBreaker a polarizing figure within the fanbase]] because of her CommonMarySueTraits and, more recently, her status as the linchpin of (the [[CriticalDissonance poorly]]-[[ParvumOpus received]]) poorly-received]]) ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken''[='s=] plot due to the creation of Pandora. As Ingrid was a crossover character from ''VideoGame/CapcomFightingEvolution'' and her story in ''Alpha 3 MAX'' doesn't mesh with the canonical events of that game, it's pretty easy for fans to dismiss the idea of a time-traveling sun goddess from whom Bison somehow stole his Psycho Power (or created a cheap corruption of).
5th Jan '16 12:59:51 AM X2X
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* ''The Answer'', the PlayableEpilogue in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'', is a bit of a BaseBreaker due to the CharacterDerailment the cast goes through ([[spoiler: Yukari causing the party to go at each other's throats because she wanted to risk bringing back Nyx to save the Protagonist]]), its difficulty, and nothing the player does affecting the story (for example, [[spoiler: Chidori]] is still dead, despite whether or not you went through the conditions to bring her back).
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* ''The Answer'', the PlayableEpilogue in ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'', [[BrokenBase is a bit of a BaseBreaker contentious]] due to the CharacterDerailment the cast goes through ([[spoiler: Yukari ([[spoiler:Yukari causing the party to go at each other's throats because she wanted to risk bringing back Nyx to save the Protagonist]]), its difficulty, and nothing the player does affecting the story (for example, [[spoiler: Chidori]] [[spoiler:Chidori]] is still dead, despite whether or not you went through the conditions to bring her back).

* Supporters of ''ViderGame/BreathOfFireDragonQuarter'' the fifth game from ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' tend to be strikingly uncommon. It's not unheard of for fans of the series to have written it out of their minds all together, something which seems to be likely to happen to its latest upcoming mobile edition.
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* Supporters of ''ViderGame/BreathOfFireDragonQuarter'' ''VideoGame/BreathOfFireDragonQuarter'' the fifth game from ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' tend to be strikingly uncommon. It's not unheard of for fans of the series to have written it out of their minds all together, something which seems to be likely to happen to its latest upcoming mobile edition.
5th Jan '16 12:58:06 AM X2X
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** Back when the second game came out, some fans - nowadays basically extinct - considered it, and everything afterwards, a franchise-ruining blasphemy.
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** Back when the second game came out, some fans - -- nowadays basically extinct - -- considered it, and everything afterwards, a franchise-ruining blasphemy.

** The new continuity is usually completely disowned by fans of Core games, since Crystal Dynamics changed a lot of the characters and considerably simplified level design. Upon its release, the fandom scorned [[Videogame/TombRaiderLegend Legend]] for being dialogue packed shooting gallery lasting for five hours, having almost nothing in common with previous games. [[VideoGame/TombRaiderAnniversary Anniversary]] managed to win back many older fans, but another faction splintered, pointing out how the changes in the plot managed to flatten characters from the first game into cardboard cut-outs.
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** The new continuity is usually completely disowned by fans of Core games, since Crystal Dynamics changed a lot of the characters and considerably simplified level design. Upon its release, the fandom scorned [[Videogame/TombRaiderLegend Legend]] ''[[VideoGame/TombRaiderLegend Legend]]'' for being dialogue packed shooting gallery lasting for five hours, having almost nothing in common with previous games. [[VideoGame/TombRaiderAnniversary Anniversary]] ''[[VideoGame/TombRaiderAnniversary Anniversary]]'' managed to win back many older fans, but another faction splintered, pointing out how the changes in the plot managed to flatten characters from the first game into cardboard cut-outs.

* ''StarControl 3'' is disowned by nearly every fan of the series, plus the makers of the first two games. Between [[RecycledScript reused dialogue]], {{retcon}}s, ButThouMust-style {{Nonstandard Game Over}}s, cryptic {{Broken Bridge}}s, and perhaps more than anything (though perhaps not), the GameBreaker Doogs, a race that can be converted early in the game, whose ships are more powerful than any other ships in the game (they're fast, maneuverable, can auto-fire their cannon at nearby ships, ''and'' quickly regenerate) it had something to annoy everyone. Even some of the game's characters complained about ThePowerOfFriendship endgame. * Any fan of ''VideoGame/SupremeCommander'' and its expansion Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance will tell you that SupremeCommander2 took everything that made the original games good and threw them away. It also horribly reversed all the events of the previous game's campaign and storyline. Due to this, many fans don't regard Supreme Commander 2 as a Supreme Commander game. The game does have [[BrokenBase its own fandom]] that prefer it this way though.
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* ''StarControl ''VideoGame/StarControl 3'' is disowned by nearly every fan of the series, plus the makers of the first two games. Between [[RecycledScript reused dialogue]], {{retcon}}s, ButThouMust-style {{Nonstandard Game Over}}s, cryptic {{Broken Bridge}}s, and perhaps more than anything (though perhaps not), the GameBreaker Doogs, a race that can be converted early in the game, whose ships are more powerful than any other ships in the game (they're fast, maneuverable, can auto-fire their cannon at nearby ships, ''and'' quickly regenerate) it had something to annoy everyone. Even some of the game's characters complained about ThePowerOfFriendship endgame. * Any fan of ''VideoGame/SupremeCommander'' and its expansion Supreme ''Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance Alliance'' will tell you that SupremeCommander2 ''VideoGame/SupremeCommander2'' took everything that made the original games good and threw them away. It also horribly reversed all the events of the previous game's campaign and storyline. Due to this, many fans don't regard Supreme Commander 2 as a Supreme Commander game. The game does have [[BrokenBase its own fandom]] that prefer it this way though.

** Then there are people who refuse to acknowledge ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil5'' or ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6''. ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilRevelations'' has been accepted enough to be ported from the 3DS to consoles. * ''SuikodenIV'' has plenty of hate for feeling rushed, the boring ocean being a world map, having the Rune of Punishment being awful, despite being a True Rune, as well as a few other things. * Playing ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic''? It's not a matter of ''if'' you throw out some of the canon, it's ''when.'' Some do it in the first screen of the game by choosing a ''female'' Revan. Others cringe at the Bastila romance arc or think the Light Side ending was jarring in light of the BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood stunt the Jedi Council pulled. Second game? Well, LucasArts made the Exile female as an apology over the controversey in declaring Revan a guy, but tell it to players who tend to play Exile as a guy! (The Handmaiden having much better CharacterDevelopment than the Disciple helps.) The book ''Revan'' is also looked upon with massive controversey. Either you think the Sith Emperor is the scariest thing ever, or he's every BioWare villain cliche in one package. There's enough annoyance about MMO games in general for some fans to ignore the rest just based on that, but when you get into ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' and you find the Exile reduced to a passive, non-entity of a Force Ghost hanging on only to comfort Revan (a guy who betrayed Exile on several levels) and Revan launching a genocidal campaign with a Rakata robot factory to kill off 98% of the Imperial population. And the [[VillainProtagonist Imperial]] players are the ones [[NiceJobFixingItVillain saving the galaxy by putting him down like a rabid mutt?]] Pick your cutoff. * ''VideoGame/TheSims 3'' messes with established characters enough that many fans of the two originals choose to ignore its impact on the series' canon, even if they do enjoy it for the improved game-play. The announcement of ''The Sims 4'' promises even more discontinuity, although it's yet to be announced how recurring characters will be handled in the next installment. Similarly, some fans choose to ignore the canon status of console spin-offs and other one-off games in the series (like ''The Sims Stories'' or ''The Sims Medieval''), either dubbing them "alternate universe" installments or just pretending they don't exist. * Many [[Creator/BenCroshaw fans]] of ''VideoGame/BioShock1'' reject ''VideoGame/BioShock2'' and consider ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'' the one true ''[=BioShock=]'' sequel. ''Infinite'' itself is also subject to this due to having little to do with the previous games. Fans also have refused to recognize Burial At Sea as canon due to inconsistencies with the first Bioshock and its ignorance of the second. Also a factor was implementing a new player that wasn't even mentioned in the first game. * For many fans of the original ''VideoGame/FinalFight'', there hasn't been a true sequel yet. ''Final Fight 2, 3'', and especially ''Final Fight Streetwise'' don't exist.
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** Then there are people who refuse to acknowledge ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil5'' or ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6''. ''VideoGame/ResidentEvilRevelations'' has been accepted enough to be ported from the 3DS to consoles. consoles and start its own subseries with the release of ''[[VideoGame/ResidentEvilRevelations Revelations 2]]''. * ''SuikodenIV'' ''VideoGame/SuikodenIV'' has plenty of hate for feeling rushed, the boring ocean being a world map, having the Rune of Punishment being awful, despite being a True Rune, as well as a few other things. * Playing ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic''? It's not a matter of ''if'' you throw out some of the canon, it's ''when.'' Some do it in the first screen of the game by choosing a ''female'' Revan. Others cringe at the Bastila romance arc or think the Light Side ending was jarring in light of the BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood stunt the Jedi Council pulled. Second game? Well, LucasArts made the Exile female as an apology over the controversey controversy in declaring Revan a guy, but tell it to players who tend to play Exile as a guy! (The Handmaiden having much better CharacterDevelopment than the Disciple helps.) The book ''Revan'' is also looked upon with massive controversey.controversy. Either you think the Sith Emperor is the scariest thing ever, or he's every BioWare villain cliche in one package. There's enough annoyance about MMO games in general for some fans to ignore the rest just based on that, but when you get into ''VideoGame/StarWarsTheOldRepublic'' and you find the Exile reduced to a passive, non-entity of a Force Ghost hanging on only to comfort Revan (a guy who betrayed Exile on several levels) and Revan launching a genocidal campaign with a Rakata robot factory to kill off 98% of the Imperial population. And the [[VillainProtagonist Imperial]] players are the ones [[NiceJobFixingItVillain saving the galaxy by putting him down like a rabid mutt?]] Pick your cutoff. * ''VideoGame/TheSims 3'' messes with established characters enough that many fans of the two originals choose to ignore its impact on the series' canon, even if they do enjoy it for the improved game-play.gameplay. The announcement of ''The Sims 4'' promises even more discontinuity, although it's yet to be announced how recurring characters will be handled in the next installment. Similarly, some fans choose to ignore the canon status of console spin-offs and other one-off games in the series (like ''The Sims Stories'' or ''The Sims Medieval''), either dubbing them "alternate universe" installments or just pretending they don't exist. * Many [[Creator/BenCroshaw fans]] of ''VideoGame/BioShock1'' reject ''VideoGame/BioShock2'' and consider ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'' the one true ''[=BioShock=]'' sequel. ''Infinite'' itself is also subject to this due to having little to do with the previous games. Fans also have refused to recognize Burial At Sea as canon due to inconsistencies with the first Bioshock ''[=BioShock=]'' and its ignorance of the second. Also a factor was implementing a new player that wasn't even mentioned in the first game. * For many fans of the original ''VideoGame/FinalFight'', there hasn't been a true sequel yet. ''Final Fight 2, 3'', 2'', ''3'', and especially ''Final Fight Streetwise'' don't exist. Capcom seems to have a similar mindset, as the only character from the sequels to appear in any significant capacity within the ''Franchise/StreetFighter'' [[SharedUniverse verse]] is Maki from ''2'', who was ported over from ''[[VideoGame/CapcomVsSNK2MarkOfTheMillennium Capcom vs. SNK 2]]'' to the portable versions of ''VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha 3''.

* Quite a fair bit of fan creations pertaining to ''VideoGame/{{MOTHER 3}}'' completely ignore the finale of the game in which [[spoiler:the protagonist's brother, Claus (or Klaus, if ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl'' is anything to go by) is revealed to have been mind controlled and forced to be a secondary antagonist, before being Main/KilledOffForReal]].
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* Quite a fair bit of fan creations pertaining to ''VideoGame/{{MOTHER 3}}'' completely ignore the finale of the game in which [[spoiler:the protagonist's brother, Claus (or Klaus, if ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl'' is anything to go by) is revealed to have been mind controlled and forced to be a secondary antagonist, before being Main/KilledOffForReal]].KilledOffForReal]].

* Some ''Franchise/StreetFighter'' fans want to ignore the first game, mainly due to the absence of Guile and Bison among others. Others consider [[WesternAnimation/StreetFighter the cartoon]] non-canon and would rather say "[[MemeticMutation YES! YES!]]" if it were forgotten. * ''VideoGame/HitmanAbsolution'' is often dismissed as non-canon, due to the linear gameplay, lack of sandboxes, and overall disliked characterization. The fact that the devs were planning to drop the Fan-favourite Bateson and replacing him with an another actor didn't exactly help. Developers have confirmed it to be canon.
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* ''Franchise/StreetFighter'': ** Some ''Franchise/StreetFighter'' fans want to ignore [[VideoGame/StreetFighterI the first game, game]], mainly due to [[SequelDisplacement its obscurity]] and the absence of series stalwarts like [[VideoGame/StreetFighterII Guile and Bison among others. Bison]] (who obviously had yet to be introduced). This is despite the fact that Ryu and Sagat's battle at the end of the game was revealed to have a lasting impact on the series come ''VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha''. ** Others consider [[WesternAnimation/StreetFighter the cartoon]] non-canon and would rather say "[[MemeticMutation YES! YES!]]" if it were forgotten. forgotten. Considering that the show [[BroadStrokes borrows heavily from]] [[Film/StreetFighter the live-action movie]] (though with more faithfulness to the games in terms of character design, abilities, and some backstories), it's doubtful the 90s ''Street Fighter'' cartoon was ever intended to have any sort of canonical bearing on the series as a whole. ** For a more specific example, there's Ingrid, who is [[BaseBreaker a polarizing figure within the fanbase]] because of her CommonMarySueTraits and, more recently, her status as the linchpin of (the [[CriticalDissonance poorly]]-[[ParvumOpus received]]) ''VideoGame/StreetFighterXTekken''[='s=] plot due to the creation of Pandora. As Ingrid was a crossover character from ''VideoGame/CapcomFightingEvolution'' and her story in ''Alpha 3 MAX'' doesn't mesh with the canonical events of that game, it's pretty easy for fans to dismiss the idea of a time-traveling sun goddess from whom Bison somehow stole his Psycho Power (or created a cheap corruption of). * ''VideoGame/HitmanAbsolution'' is often dismissed as non-canon, due to the linear gameplay, lack of sandboxes, and overall disliked characterization. The fact that the devs were planning to drop the Fan-favourite fan-favourite Bateson and replacing him with an another actor didn't exactly help. Developers have confirmed it to be canon.
26th Dec '15 10:19:25 PM erforce
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* ''VideoGame/DinoCrisis 3'' was such a BigLippedAlligatorMoment and a FranchiseKiller that the ''Dino Crisis'' fans generally treat it as FanonDiscontinuity, which is especially tempting to do since the game is an extreme case of InNameOnly, having zero ties to the first two games and technically not even including actual dinosaurs. It is actually ''[[GaidenGame Dino Stalker]]'', a rather obscure [[LightGunGame light gun shooter spin-off]] for the [=PS2=] released prior to ''Dino Crisis 3'', that nebulously links together the second and third games, despite failing to directly address the cliffhanger of ''Dino Crisis 2'' that fans expected ''Dino Crisis 3'' to resolve.
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* ''VideoGame/DinoCrisis 3'' ''VideoGame/DinoCrisis3'' was such a BigLippedAlligatorMoment and a FranchiseKiller that the ''Dino Crisis'' fans generally treat it as FanonDiscontinuity, which is especially tempting to do since the game is an extreme case of InNameOnly, having zero ties to the first two games and technically not even including actual dinosaurs. It is actually ''[[GaidenGame Dino Stalker]]'', ''VideoGame/DinoStalker'', a rather obscure [[LightGunGame light gun shooter spin-off]] for the [=PS2=] released prior to ''Dino Crisis 3'', that nebulously links together the second and third games, despite failing to directly address the cliffhanger of ''Dino Crisis 2'' ''VideoGame/DinoCrisis2'' that fans expected ''Dino Crisis 3'' to resolve.
18th Dec '15 8:49:03 PM nombretomado
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* While there isn't much continuity to the ''VideoGame/DoubleDragon'' franchise, fans only count the four side-scrolling beat-em-ups (as well the GBA remake of the first one and usually ''[[VideoGame/DoubleDragonNeon Neon]]''). ''Double Dragon V: The Shadow Falls'', a fighting game based on the AnimatedAdaptation, was made without Technos Japan's involvement, and disliked by players for stiff controls and poor character designs. The NeoGeo fighting game is questionable, depending on whether or not one likes [[VideoGameMoviesSuck the movie]], since some of its characters come from that.
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* While there isn't much continuity to the ''VideoGame/DoubleDragon'' franchise, fans only count the four side-scrolling beat-em-ups (as well the GBA remake of the first one and usually ''[[VideoGame/DoubleDragonNeon Neon]]''). ''Double Dragon V: The Shadow Falls'', a fighting game based on the AnimatedAdaptation, was made without Technos Japan's involvement, and disliked by players for stiff controls and poor character designs. The NeoGeo UsefulNotes/NeoGeo fighting game is questionable, depending on whether or not one likes [[VideoGameMoviesSuck the movie]], since some of its characters come from that.
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