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6th Feb '16 11:04:39 PM nombretomado
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* Sometimes this thing happens very nebulously when there are no true factions, especially in non-hardcore fandoms like those of sitcoms. Example: on ''{{Frasier}}'', most [[AmicablyDivorced Frasier/Lilith]] and [[BetterAsFriends Frasier/Roz]] shippers think [[LastMinuteHookup Frasier/Charlotte]] was a terrible pairing. On the other hand, they don't hate each other much at all. And then there's a group of fans, who have a small overlap with both the Frasier/Lilith crowd and the Frasier/Roz crowd, who commit themselves to despising every single GirlOfTheWeek Frasier has. Then there's those who think both the Frasier/Lilithers and the Frasier/Rozers are deluding themselves and take the potential of Frasier's [[ForegoneConclusion obviously doomed]] girls of the week too seriously, (especially Claire). It's nigh impossible to get any sort of lock on what the majority of the viewers is gunning for. Then again, Frasier was never part of the show's OfficialCouple anyway...
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* Sometimes this thing happens very nebulously when there are no true factions, especially in non-hardcore fandoms like those of sitcoms. Example: on ''{{Frasier}}'', ''Series/{{Frasier}}'', most [[AmicablyDivorced Frasier/Lilith]] and [[BetterAsFriends Frasier/Roz]] shippers think [[LastMinuteHookup Frasier/Charlotte]] was a terrible pairing. On the other hand, they don't hate each other much at all. And then there's a group of fans, who have a small overlap with both the Frasier/Lilith crowd and the Frasier/Roz crowd, who commit themselves to despising every single GirlOfTheWeek Frasier has. Then there's those who think both the Frasier/Lilithers and the Frasier/Rozers are deluding themselves and take the potential of Frasier's [[ForegoneConclusion obviously doomed]] girls of the week too seriously, (especially Claire). It's nigh impossible to get any sort of lock on what the majority of the viewers is gunning for. Then again, Frasier was never part of the show's OfficialCouple anyway...
2nd Jan '16 12:40:04 PM Sapphirea2
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** In fact, though he's reluctant to be a "boyfriend" and HatesBeingTouched, tender subtext and chemistry continued into the Twelfth Doctor and Clara's relationship even as she took up a romance with Danny Pink central to the Series 8 story arc. After [[spoiler: Danny was effectively killed three times over]], over the 2014 Christmas special and Series 9 they truly became PlatonicLifePartners. There is a smaller-but-devoted anti-River Song and anti-Danny Pink crowd that supports the 12/Clara pairing, and suffice it to say this group was '''not''' happy to learn that River Song was appearing in the 2015 Christmas special...right after Clara departed at the end of the season. In that final stretch, [[spoiler: Clara is Killed Off For Real; he manages to rescue her from the moment of her death, but this threatens to ''tear apart the universe''. Both realize they '''cannot''' stay together because their relationship is too strong for everyone else's health! His mind ends up wiped of memories of her, though not of their adventures, and they go separate ways]].
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** In fact, though he's Although the Twelfth Doctor is reluctant to be a "boyfriend" and HatesBeingTouched, tender subtext and chemistry continued into the Twelfth Doctor with his and Clara's relationship even as she took up a romance with Danny Pink central to the Series 8 story arc. After [[spoiler: Danny was effectively killed three times over]], over the 2014 Christmas special and Series 9 they truly became PlatonicLifePartners. There is a smaller-but-devoted anti-River Song and anti-Danny Pink crowd that supports the 12/Clara pairing, and suffice it to say this group was '''not''' happy to learn that River Song was appearing in the 2015 Christmas special...right after Clara departed at the end of the season. In that final stretch, The circumstances of all this turned out to be as follows: [[spoiler: Clara is Killed Off For Real; he manages to rescue rescues her from the moment of her death, but this threatens to ''tear apart the universe''. Both realize they '''cannot''' stay together because their relationship is too strong for everyone else's health! love brings out the worst in each other. His mind ends up wiped of memories of her, though not of their adventures, and they go separate ways]].ways. After this, having accepted that all happiness ends sometime, he becomes the Doctor who spends a last night with River Song at the Singing Towers of Darillium...a night that lasts '''twenty-four years''']].
27th Dec '15 2:29:07 PM nombretomado
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* ''{{Skins}}'', the UK version, has this with Michelle, for getting in the way of everyone's {{OTP}}, Sid/Cassie. Even when it was clear from the start that Michelle was Sid's RomanticFalseLead. It got particularly bad in Season 2 when [[spoiler: Sid and Michelle actually were together for a short while, though with it still clear that their true loves were Cassie and Tony, respectively]]. People started accusing Michelle of being a "slut," even when Cassie was ''actually'' engaging in some extremely promiscuous behavior. In Season 3, JJ also got some hate from the Naomily shippers when he slept with Emily, though it was minimal - probably helped by the fact that ''Skins'' writers had learned their lesson and made it even more abundantly clear that Emily/JJ wasn't going anywhere. (Emily comes out to him as gay at the beginning of the episode, and right before they sleep together, she tells him it's a "one-time-only charity event.")
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* ''{{Skins}}'', ''Series/{{Skins}}'', the UK version, has this with Michelle, for getting in the way of everyone's {{OTP}}, Sid/Cassie. Even when it was clear from the start that Michelle was Sid's RomanticFalseLead. It got particularly bad in Season 2 when [[spoiler: Sid and Michelle actually were together for a short while, though with it still clear that their true loves were Cassie and Tony, respectively]]. People started accusing Michelle of being a "slut," even when Cassie was ''actually'' engaging in some extremely promiscuous behavior. In Season 3, JJ also got some hate from the Naomily shippers when he slept with Emily, though it was minimal - probably helped by the fact that ''Skins'' writers had learned their lesson and made it even more abundantly clear that Emily/JJ wasn't going anywhere. (Emily comes out to him as gay at the beginning of the episode, and right before they sleep together, she tells him it's a "one-time-only charity event.")
18th Dec '15 5:51:59 AM Sapphirea2
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** In fact, though he's reluctant to be a "boyfriend" and HatesBeingTouched, tender subtext and chemistry continued into the Twelfth Doctor and Clara's relationship even as she took up a romance with Danny Pink central to the Series 8 story arc. After [[spoiler: Danny was effectively killed three times over]], this intensified and deepened in the 2014 Christmas special and Series 9. There is a smaller-but-devoted anti-River Song and anti-Danny Pink crowd that supports the 12/Clara pairing, and suffice it to say this group was '''not''' happy to learn that River Song was appearing in the 2015 Christmas special...right after Clara departed at the end of the season. Moreover, Clara and 12's relationship ends [[spoiler: tragically. She is Killed Off For Real; he desperately rescues her from the moment of her death, but this threatens to ''tear apart the universe'' and both are forced to realize they '''cannot''' stay together because their love is too strong for everyone else's health. He winds up getting his mind wiped of memories of her, though not of their adventures]].
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** In fact, though he's reluctant to be a "boyfriend" and HatesBeingTouched, tender subtext and chemistry continued into the Twelfth Doctor and Clara's relationship even as she took up a romance with Danny Pink central to the Series 8 story arc. After [[spoiler: Danny was effectively killed three times over]], this intensified and deepened in over the 2014 Christmas special and Series 9.9 they truly became PlatonicLifePartners. There is a smaller-but-devoted anti-River Song and anti-Danny Pink crowd that supports the 12/Clara pairing, and suffice it to say this group was '''not''' happy to learn that River Song was appearing in the 2015 Christmas special...right after Clara departed at the end of the season. Moreover, Clara and 12's relationship ends In that final stretch, [[spoiler: tragically. She Clara is Killed Off For Real; he desperately rescues manages to rescue her from the moment of her death, but this threatens to ''tear apart the universe'' and both are forced to universe''. Both realize they '''cannot''' stay together because their love relationship is too strong for everyone else's health. He winds up getting his health! His mind ends up wiped of memories of her, though not of their adventures]].adventures, and they go separate ways]].
8th Dec '15 11:12:33 PM Sapphirea2
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** In fact, though he's reluctant to be a "boyfriend" and HatesBeingTouched, tender subtext and chemistry continued into the Twelfth Doctor and Clara's relationship even as she took up a romance with Danny Pink central to the Series 8 story arc. After [[spoiler: Danny was effectively killed three times over]], this intensified and deepened in the 2014 Christmas special and Series 9. There is a smaller-but-devoted anti-River Song and anti-Danny Pink crowd that supports the 12/Clara pairing, and suffice it to say this group was '''not''' happy to learn that River Song was appearing in the 2015 Christmas special, '''especially''' after the events of "Face the Raven", in which [[spoiler: Clara was '''Killed Off for Real''', an extremely rare way for a ''Who'' companion to depart]].
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** In fact, though he's reluctant to be a "boyfriend" and HatesBeingTouched, tender subtext and chemistry continued into the Twelfth Doctor and Clara's relationship even as she took up a romance with Danny Pink central to the Series 8 story arc. After [[spoiler: Danny was effectively killed three times over]], this intensified and deepened in the 2014 Christmas special and Series 9. There is a smaller-but-devoted anti-River Song and anti-Danny Pink crowd that supports the 12/Clara pairing, and suffice it to say this group was '''not''' happy to learn that River Song was appearing in the 2015 Christmas special, '''especially''' special...right after Clara departed at the events end of "Face the Raven", in which season. Moreover, Clara and 12's relationship ends [[spoiler: Clara was '''Killed tragically. She is Killed Off For Real; he desperately rescues her from the moment of her death, but this threatens to ''tear apart the universe'' and both are forced to realize they '''cannot''' stay together because their love is too strong for Real''', an extremely rare way for a ''Who'' companion to depart]].everyone else's health. He winds up getting his mind wiped of memories of her, though not of their adventures]].
7th Dec '15 11:06:18 PM PaulA
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* ''Radio/OurMissBrooks'' has a unique example from its final television season. Marriage to Mr. Boynton has always been her series goal. ExecutiveMeddling saw Miss Brooks take a new job teaching at a private school when Madison was torn down for a new freeway (somehow Madison High had ended up in Los Angeles after always previously been in the [[EverytownAmerica Madison]]). Miss Brooks found herself chased by the school's gym teacher. The new format was unpopular among show fans, and even Eve Arden herself. Mr. Boynton was brought back toward the end of the season in response to popular demand, and the last few episodes saw Miss Brooks pursue him as of old.
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* ''Radio/OurMissBrooks'' ''Series/OurMissBrooks'' has a unique example from its final television season. Marriage to Mr. Boynton has always been her series goal. ExecutiveMeddling saw Miss Brooks take a new job teaching at a private school when Madison High was torn down for a new freeway (somehow Madison High had ended up in Los Angeles after always previously been in the [[EverytownAmerica Madison]]). Miss Brooks found herself chased by the school's gym teacher. The new format was unpopular among show fans, and even Eve Arden herself. Mr. Boynton was brought back toward the end of the season in response to popular demand, and the last few episodes saw Miss Brooks pursue him as of old.
6th Dec '15 9:29:08 PM nombretomado
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** Thanks to the TimeyWimeyBall, Kes' canon relationship with Tom Paris was killed off before it truly began. Lampshaded by reviewer SFDebris who laments "You can't fight the [Paris/Torres] shippers, Kes. You just can't."
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** Thanks to the TimeyWimeyBall, Kes' canon relationship with Tom Paris was killed off before it truly began. Lampshaded by reviewer SFDebris WebSite/SFDebris who laments "You can't fight the [Paris/Torres] shippers, Kes. You just can't."
22nd Nov '15 2:40:42 PM Sapphirea2
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** In fact, though he's reluctant to be a "boyfriend" and HatesBeingTouched, tender subtext and chemistry continued into the Twelfth Doctor and Clara's relationship even as she took up a romance with Danny Pink central to the Series 8 story arc. After [[spoiler: Danny was effectively killed three times over]], this only intensified and deepened in the 2014 Christmas special and Series 9. There is a smaller-but-devoted anti-River Song and anti-Danny Pink crowd that supports the 12/Clara pairing, and suffice it to say this group was '''not''' happy to hear the confirmations that 1) Series 9 is Clara's final season, and 2) River Song is appearing in the 2015 Christmas special. As for Danny, [[spoiler: there is a loose end -- later in the show's timeline there's someone who '''might''' be his and Clara's great-grandson]].
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** In fact, though he's reluctant to be a "boyfriend" and HatesBeingTouched, tender subtext and chemistry continued into the Twelfth Doctor and Clara's relationship even as she took up a romance with Danny Pink central to the Series 8 story arc. After [[spoiler: Danny was effectively killed three times over]], this only intensified and deepened in the 2014 Christmas special and Series 9. There is a smaller-but-devoted anti-River Song and anti-Danny Pink crowd that supports the 12/Clara pairing, and suffice it to say this group was '''not''' happy to hear the confirmations learn that 1) Series 9 is Clara's final season, and 2) River Song is was appearing in the 2015 Christmas special. As for Danny, special, '''especially''' after the events of "Face the Raven", in which [[spoiler: there is Clara was '''Killed Off for Real''', an extremely rare way for a loose end -- later in the show's timeline there's someone who '''might''' be his and Clara's great-grandson]].''Who'' companion to depart]].
13th Oct '15 5:52:51 AM Sapphirea2
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** While it was mostly subtextual, the nice chemistry and occassional hints of romance in the Eleventh Doctor and Clara Oswald's friendship in Series 7 led some fans to ship the two characters. While [[PlatonicLifePartners the nature of their relationship]] usually draws in the more reasonable fans, some bad apples do occur -- when Eleven regenerated, [[CrackFic a few mean-spirited fanfics]] emerged in which ''[[DisproportionateRetribution Clara murders the Twelfth Doctor]]'' ''[[UnfortunateImplications for being old and less approachable]]''. ** As it turned out, tender subtext continued into the Twelfth Doctor and Clara's relationship even as she took up a romance with Danny Pink central to the Series 8 story arc -- in fact, it intensified over time. There is a smaller-but-devoted anti-River Song and anti-Danny Pink crowd that supports the 12/Clara pairing, and suffice it to say this group was '''not''' happy to hear the confirmations that 1) Series 9 is Clara's final season, and 2) River Song is appearing in the Christmas special afterwards. With regards to Danny, [[spoiler: he died in the Series 8 finale]], but [[spoiler: later in the show's timeline there's someone who '''might''' be his and Clara's great-grandson]]...
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** While it was mostly subtextual, the nice chemistry and occassional hints of romance in the Eleventh Doctor and Clara Oswald's friendship in the second half of Series 7 led some fans to ship the two characters. While [[PlatonicLifePartners the nature of their relationship]] usually draws in the more reasonable fans, some bad apples do occur -- when Eleven regenerated, [[CrackFic a few mean-spirited fanfics]] emerged in which ''[[DisproportionateRetribution Clara murders the Twelfth Doctor]]'' ''[[UnfortunateImplications for being old and less approachable]]''. \n ** As it turned out, In fact, though he's reluctant to be a "boyfriend" and HatesBeingTouched, tender subtext and chemistry continued into the Twelfth Doctor and Clara's relationship even as she took up a romance with Danny Pink central to the Series 8 story arc -- in fact, it arc. After [[spoiler: Danny was effectively killed three times over]], this only intensified over time. and deepened in the 2014 Christmas special and Series 9. There is a smaller-but-devoted anti-River Song and anti-Danny Pink crowd that supports the 12/Clara pairing, and suffice it to say this group was '''not''' happy to hear the confirmations that 1) Series 9 is Clara's final season, and 2) River Song is appearing in the 2015 Christmas special afterwards. With regards to special. As for Danny, [[spoiler: he died in the Series 8 finale]], but [[spoiler: there is a loose end -- later in the show's timeline there's someone who '''might''' be his and Clara's great-grandson]]...great-grandson]].
9th Oct '15 9:12:47 AM johnsmithxxi
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* ''Radio/OurMissBrooks'' has a unique example from its final television season. Marriage to Mr. Boynton has always been her series goal. ExecutiveMeddling saw Miss Brooks take a new job teaching at a private school when Madison was torn down for a new freeway (somehow Madison High had ended up in Los Angeles after always previously been in the [[EverytownAmerica Madison]]). Miss Brooks found herself chased by the school's gym teacher. The new format was unpopular among show fans, and even Eve Arden herself. Mr. Boynton was brought back toward the end of the season in response to popular demand, and the last few episodes saw Miss Brooks pursue him as of old. ** CanonDiscontinuity is at play here. The events of the final television season were ignored by the radio season, which continued at Madison as per normal. The program ended with a [[TheMovie theatrical]] [[GrandFinale series finale]] that, again, ignored the final television season, and concluded the story at Madison High School (which was in the City of Madison and definitely '''not''' in Los Angeles!). [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10203524/1/Our-Miss-Brooks-The-Reunion-Assembly One fan fiction story explains away the discrepancy]] by detailing the final television series as [[AllJustADream a nightmare]] of Miss Brooks'.
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