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** Pedophile!England perving on young America is not a rare phenomenon in stories that feature America with someone else and feel the need to justify the pairing by showing how horrible England/America would be... even though canon has zero evidence that would back this up; in fact, America seems to think back on their days together with nostalgia. Plus, if England has more-than-brotherly feelings for America, they seem to have been kickstarted when America was a teenager at the very least.

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** Pedophile!England perving on young America is not a rare phenomenon in stories that feature America with someone else and feel the need to justify the pairing by showing how horrible England/America would be... even though canon has zero evidence that would back this up; in fact, America seems to think back on their days together with nostalgia. Plus, if England has more-than-brotherly feelings for America, they seem to have been kickstarted when America was a teenager at the very least.



*** To be fair, one of the main reasons that the French Crown got involved with the American Revolution '''was''' to get revenge on England for the Seven Years War. In canon, France is pretty self-centered and likes to cash in on other people's victories, so him being a "borderline EvilMentor" isn't that out of character. It can definitely be pushed too far(and often is) but the premise is relatively reasonable.

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*** To be fair, one of the main reasons that the French Crown got involved with the American Revolution '''was''' to get revenge on England for the Seven Years War. In canon, France is pretty self-centered and likes to cash in on other people's victories, so him being a "borderline EvilMentor" isn't that out of character. It can definitely be pushed too far(and But it ''can'' (and more often is) but the premise is relatively reasonable. than not '''is''') taken too mfar, with Francer as a borderline CompleteMonster against a totally {{Purity Stu}}fied England.
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* There's also the portrayal of [[TheWhitePrince Austria]] in some [[HotBlooded Prussia]]/[[NinjaMaid Hungary]] fanworks. While they rarely go so far as to make Austria [[DomesticAbuse beat the hell out of Hungary]] (who's still [[HotAmazon physically]] [[NinjaMaid stronger]] [[NonActionGuy than he is]], anyway), they still sometimes portray him as a BespectacledBastardBoyfriend [[TheUnfairSex cold, snobbish and neglectful of Hungary to the point of emotional abuse]] to not only discredit their canon marriage as a loveless ArrangedMarriage (even though they show romantic affection for each other even ''after'' their "divorce") but to have Hungary [[GoodAdulteryBadAdultery seek out comfort]] in the [[RichSuitorPoorSuitor "not as well-off but more fun and passionate"]] [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend Prussia]]'s arms [[YourCheatingHeart behind Austria's back]]. More than once it's coupled with {{Chickification}}, since Hungary goes from a {{Tomboy}} [[GirlinessUpgrade who became more girly without losing]] [[PluckyGirl her backbone]] [[BadassAdorable and fighting skills]] to a weepy and wangsty mess who whines and cries about her "loveless married life" with abusive-asshole!Austria and pines endlessly for badass-romantic-hero!Prussia rescuing her from such torment - without even ''attempting'' to do anything for her own sake.

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* There's also the portrayal of [[TheWhitePrince Austria]] in some [[HotBlooded Prussia]]/[[NinjaMaid Hungary]] fanworks. While they rarely go so far as to make Austria [[DomesticAbuse beat the hell out of Hungary]] (who's still [[HotAmazon physically]] physically [[NinjaMaid stronger]] [[NonActionGuy than he is]], anyway), they still sometimes portray him as a BespectacledBastardBoyfriend [[TheUnfairSex cold, snobbish and neglectful of Hungary to the point of emotional abuse]] to not only discredit their canon marriage as a loveless ArrangedMarriage (even though they show romantic affection for each other even ''after'' their "divorce") but to have Hungary [[GoodAdulteryBadAdultery seek out comfort]] in the [[RichSuitorPoorSuitor "not as well-off but more fun and passionate"]] [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend Prussia]]'s arms [[YourCheatingHeart behind Austria's back]]. More than once it's coupled with {{Chickification}}, since Hungary goes from a {{Tomboy}} [[GirlinessUpgrade who became more girly without losing]] [[PluckyGirl her backbone]] [[BadassAdorable and fighting skills]] to a weepy and wangsty mess who whines and cries about her "loveless married life" with abusive-asshole!Austria and pines endlessly for badass-romantic-hero!Prussia rescuing her from such torment - without even ''attempting'' to do anything for her own sake.



* ''Hungary'' herself, while normally embraced by fans for being a HotAmazon and YaoiFangirl, isn't free of this. Some Germany/Austria fics portray her as a whiny, self-centered ClingyJealousGirl or a [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses brainless, weak, "girly"]] [[HetIsEw female]] who breaks the Austro-Hungarian compromise ''solely'' because Austria pays less attention to her than she wants to. Seems somebody hasn't read the Anschluss, New Year and/or Valentine strips, huh?

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* ''Hungary'' herself, while normally embraced by fans for being a HotAmazon an ActionGirl and YaoiFangirl, isn't free of this. Some Germany/Austria fics portray her as a whiny, self-centered ClingyJealousGirl or a [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses brainless, weak, "girly"]] [[HetIsEw female]] who breaks the Austro-Hungarian compromise ''solely'' because Austria pays less attention to her than she wants to. Seems somebody hasn't read the Anschluss, New Year and/or Valentine strips, huh?
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** Taiwan is generally liked as she's a [[GenkiGirl cheerful]] PluckyGirl, but she's often falsely accused of being Japan's RelationshipSue and prospect child bride. Thing is, while canon shows that she ''does'' look up to Japan and prefers her to China, it's not clear if it's a crush-like affection or simply a case of a young girl who wants her favorite sibling to aknowledge her. A lot of the accusations also seem to take {{fanon}} as canon: it's true that some Japan/Taiwan shippers reduce the very complicated Japanese occupation of the Taiwanese island to a RomanceNovel-like LadyAndKnight deal, but ''that is not the fault of Taiwan the character in any way'' and ''it doesn't necessarily reflect her canon interaction with Japan''.

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** Taiwan is generally liked as she's a [[GenkiGirl cheerful]] PluckyGirl, but she's often falsely accused of being Japan's RelationshipSue and prospect child bride. Thing is, while canon shows that she ''does'' look up to Japan and prefers her to China, it's not clear if it's a crush-like affection or simply a case of a young girl who wants her favorite sibling to aknowledge her. A lot of the accusations also seem to take {{fanon}} as canon: it's true that some Japan/Taiwan shippers reduce the very complicated Japanese occupation of the Taiwanese island to a RomanceNovel-like LadyAndKnight deal, but ''that is not the fault of Taiwan the character in any way'' and ''it doesn't necessarily reflect her canon interaction with Japan''.Japan''.
** Even Vietnam, who has had barely any screentime at all gets this from people who dislike how some members of the fandom pair her up with America, Russia, France, and/or China and refer to her as a RelationshipSue because of {{Fanon}} portrayals. Despite the fact that, in canon, she has not had any reaction with anyone other than Taiwan and Thailand so far, she has gotten some accusations of being a FlatCharacter who only exists to ruin other pairings. Thankfully, this portion of the fanbase is very small in comparison with hate that the other females have gotten, as it's very easy to ignore her character entirely.

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* Last but not least, all of the female characters in Hetalia have been falsely accused of being {{Relationship Sue}}s for the guys. While it ''is'' true that some shippers in both W-Fen and J-Fen are fond of [[PossessionSue disregarding the girls's canon personalities in their fanwork]] (with America/Belarus, America/Vietnam, England/Seychelles, Prussia/Hungary and Japan/Taiwan shippers as the main culprits), that is hardly the ''girls's'' own fault as they are not necessarily there just to have the guys stick their cocks inside of any of them. (Also, let's consider how many ''male'' characters [[{{Wimpification}} fall in the same trap]] [[DoubleStandard but this seems to be tolerated much more]] by the ''same'' fangirls who whine about the girls being Sues...)

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* Last but not least, all '''''All''''' of the female characters in Hetalia have been falsely accused of being {{Relationship Sue}}s for the guys. While it ''is'' true that some shippers in both W-Fen and J-Fen are fond of [[PossessionSue disregarding the girls's canon personalities in their fanwork]] (with America/Belarus, America/Vietnam, England/Seychelles, Prussia/Hungary and Japan/Taiwan shippers as the main culprits), that is hardly the ''girls's'' own fault as they are not necessarily there just to have the guys stick their cocks inside of any of them. (Also, let's consider how many ''male'' characters [[{{Wimpification}} fall in the same trap]] [[DoubleStandard but this seems to be tolerated much more]] by the ''same'' fangirls who whine about the girls being Sues...)



** The biggest female victim of this, at the moment, is Seychelles, the local NubileSavage and PluckyGirl. She was a minor character with a mere cameo in the comics... then she became an AscendedExtra in [[HighSchoolAU Gakuen Hetalia]] (both the original script and the PSP game), and then the poor girl started getting shit from ''everyone'' coming from ''everywhere''. The HetIsEw camp called her a RelationshipSue, and the USUK and FRUK rabidshippers accused her of standing in between their beaus because she had some degree of ShipTease with both England and France. (Nevermind that France is after AnythingThatMoves, that Gakuen Hetalia isn't that centered in romance but more in ThePowerOfFriendship, and that in the PSP game itself [[spoiler: Sey actually ''helps'' America to gain England's attention after a fight, which can easily be interpreted as her PlayingCyrano for them.]])
** Belgium may not be as big of a target as Seychelles, but she still gets potshots from rabid Spain/Romano fangirls that falsely accuse her of standing in between. An apparently LostForever [[http://storikeeper.tumblr.com/post/8610938986/are-we-still-going-on-with-this-whole-belgium-thing Spamano fanart]] has ''Canada threatening to hit her'' ([[ShrinkingViolet yes]], '''[[NiceGuy CANADA]]''') because she won't give up on interferring with them, ''and we're supposed to cheer for Canada when he says he'll hit her''.
** Even Liechtenstein, who's a NiceGirl in canon, is once in a while treated as being an evil MarySue who stole Switzerland from Austria. (Nevermind that she and Austria are civil to each other in canon). Luckily it's not that common, but there are some UnfortunateImplications in how the hate stopped ''only'' in the {{Hetalia Bloodbath 2011}} when she seemed to [[ShipperOnDeck approve of Swiss and Austria's somewhat improved relationship.]]
** Poor Ukraine actually gets this from a certain corner of the fandom who bash her for a barely hinted at BrotherSisterIncest affection for Russia in her character song. A lot of the bashing comes from the fact that she dares to have [[GagBoobs a large chest]] and is a [[NiceGuy Nice Girl]] and relatively well-liked TeamMom, which makes the HetIsEw camps treat her as an annoying crybaby MarySue [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses who is a terrible female character]]. Never mind that she canonically has hints of being a LadyOfWar and is a huge ChewToy.
** [[{{Shorttank}} Wy]] got pegged with this shortly after her first appearance by [[ToyShip Sealand/Latvia and Sealand/Iceland]] shippers. The fact that she already had {{Scrappy}} status from being a BrattyHalfPint certainly didn't help her case any.
** Taiwan is generally liked as she's a [[GenkiGirl cheerful]] PluckyGirl, but she's often falsely accused of being Japan's RelationshipSue and prospect child bride. Thing is, while canon shows that she looks up to Japan, it's not clear if it's a crush-like affection or simply a case of a young girl who wants her favorite sibling to aknowledge her. A lot of the accusations also seem to take {{fanon}} as canon: it's true that some Japan/Taiwan shippers reduce the very complicated Japanese occupation of the Taiwanese island to a RomanceNovel-like deal, but ''that is not the fault of Taiwan the character in any way'' and ''it doesn't necessarily reflect her canon interaction with Japan''.

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** The biggest female victim of this, at the moment, is Seychelles, the local NubileSavage and PluckyGirl. She was a minor character with a mere cameo in the comics... then she became an AscendedExtra in [[HighSchoolAU Gakuen Hetalia]] (both the original script and the PSP game), and then the poor girl started getting shit from ''everyone'' coming from ''everywhere''. The HetIsEw camp called her a RelationshipSue, and the USUK and FRUK rabidshippers accused her of standing in between their beaus because she had some degree of ShipTease with both England and France. (Nevermind that France is after AnythingThatMoves, that Gakuen Hetalia isn't that centered in romance but more in ThePowerOfFriendship, and that in the PSP game itself [[spoiler: Sey actually ''helps'' America to gain England's attention after a fight, which can easily be interpreted as her PlayingCyrano for them.]])
** Belgium may not be as ''as'' big of a target as Seychelles, but she still gets potshots from rabid Spain/Romano fangirls that falsely accuse her of standing in between. An apparently LostForever [[http://storikeeper.tumblr.com/post/8610938986/are-we-still-going-on-with-this-whole-belgium-thing Spamano fanart]] has ''Canada threatening to hit her'' ([[ShrinkingViolet yes]], '''[[NiceGuy CANADA]]''') because she won't give up on interferring with them, ''and we're supposed to cheer for Canada when he says he'll hit her''.
** Even Liechtenstein, who's a NiceGirl ProperLady in canon, is once in a while treated as being an evil MarySue who stole Switzerland from Austria. (Nevermind that she and Austria are very polite and civil to each other in canon). Luckily it's not that common, but there are some UnfortunateImplications in how the hate stopped ''only'' in the {{Hetalia Bloodbath 2011}} when she seemed to [[ShipperOnDeck approve of Swiss and Austria's somewhat improved relationship.]]
** Poor Ukraine actually gets this from a certain corner of the fandom who bash her for a barely hinted at BrotherSisterIncest affection for Russia in her character song. A lot of the bashing comes from the fact that she dares to have [[GagBoobs a large chest]] and is a [[NiceGuy Nice Girl]] NiceGirl and relatively well-liked TeamMom, which makes the HetIsEw camps treat her as an annoying crybaby MarySue [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses [[WhatMeasureIsANonBadass who is a terrible female character]]. Never mind that she canonically has hints of being a LadyOfWar and is a huge ChewToy.
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** [[{{Shorttank}} Wy]] got pegged with this shortly after her first appearance by [[ToyShip Sealand/Latvia and Sealand/Iceland]] shippers. The fact that she already had {{Scrappy}} status from being a BrattyHalfPint LittleMissSnarker certainly didn't help her case any.
*** Not really. The Sealand/others shippers that bad her aren't that numerous, as the major part of the fandom tends to get Wy outta the way peacefully via giving her a PrecociousCrush on Seborga instead, since he promised to hit on her [[SheIsAllgrownUp when she grows up]].
** Taiwan is generally liked as she's a [[GenkiGirl cheerful]] PluckyGirl, but she's often falsely accused of being Japan's RelationshipSue and prospect child bride. Thing is, while canon shows that she looks ''does'' look up to Japan, Japan and prefers her to China, it's not clear if it's a crush-like affection or simply a case of a young girl who wants her favorite sibling to aknowledge her. A lot of the accusations also seem to take {{fanon}} as canon: it's true that some Japan/Taiwan shippers reduce the very complicated Japanese occupation of the Taiwanese island to a RomanceNovel-like LadyAndKnight deal, but ''that is not the fault of Taiwan the character in any way'' and ''it doesn't necessarily reflect her canon interaction with Japan''.
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**** A ManipulativeBastard France that tries to take advantage of England's difficult situation with America and cash good benefits from it, and possibly showing some MagnificentBastard inklings, would fit in canon; a France who acts like a CardCarryingVillain, who jizzes in his panties with the idea of making PurityStu!England suffer, AND manipulates America in hopes of breaking poor little martyr England forever would NOT. The ''Independence Sky'' doujinshi series by Hakka Pink is a clear example of the second, since their France is almost nothing but a total asshole who cackles evilly while manipulating an awfully character-derailed America and England (to give you an iea of the last point, [[spoiler:America actually '''[[VictimFallsForRapist rapes England]]''' at least twice]], which is something canon!America would NEVER do) and goes pretty much psycho at the end of the series [[spoiler: to the point of losing an eye]]: that's '''very''' clearly a portrayal of France intended to make him a borderline CompleteMonster who wants to destroy the "love" between America and England, rather than a smart and cunning rival doing his best to assert his own power in this special situation.
*** Are we talking about the 5 issue mini-series ''Independence Sky'' (with 2 side-stories featuring America's childhood) about the American revolution where France opens up America's eyes to his people's situation and then acts the EvilMentor route of trying to use him to get revenge in his and England's ongoing feud? Because this troper doesn't recall any rape or outright evil behaviour from France in that at all. In fact there was just 1 scene between England and France in the main series, where England pulls France's eye out and tells France to keep out of his and America's business (that was it), and in fact all countries are implied as having the same warmongering tendencies as France, with England saying, to quote: "I don't put my trust in countries, they're all war junkies...". This troper is honestly quite confused, as she was going to list it as a clear example of the FIRST rather than the second.
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** While some Prussia/Hungary fans see Romania as a "serious obstacle" like they do to Austria, others treat the "rivalry" more as a RunningGag and make Prussia a prospect ButtMonkey whom Hungary is still {{Tsundere}} for, rather than a super Stu-fied romance hero who must "recover" his love interest from Romania's "dirty" paws and vampire teeth. And two/three others seem to favor an {{OT3}} in which Hungary gets it on with ''both'' Prussia and Romania. So {{YMMV}} on that one.

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** While some Prussia/Hungary fans see Romania as a "serious obstacle" like they do to Austria, others treat the "rivalry" more as a RunningGag and make Prussia a prospect ButtMonkey whom Hungary is still {{Tsundere}} for, rather than a super Stu-fied romance hero who must "recover" his love interest from Romania's "dirty" paws and vampire teeth. And two/three others seem to favor an {{OT3}} in which Hungary gets it on with ''both'' Prussia and Romania. So {{YMMV}} on that one.
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** Taiwan is generally liked as she's a [[GenkiGirl cheerful]] PluckyGirl, but she's often falsely accused of being Japan's RelationshipSue and prospect child bride. Thing is, while canon shows that she looks up to Japan to a degree, it's not clear if it's crush-like affection or simply a case of a young girl who wants her favorite sibling to aknowledge her. A lot of the accusations also seem to take {{fanon}} as canon: it's true that some Japan/Taiwan shippers reduce the very complicated Japanese occupation of the Taiwanese island to a RomanceNovel-like deal, but ''that is not the fault of Taiwan the character in any way'' and ''it doesn't reflect their canon interaction''.

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** Taiwan is generally liked as she's a [[GenkiGirl cheerful]] PluckyGirl, but she's often falsely accused of being Japan's RelationshipSue and prospect child bride. Thing is, while canon shows that she looks up to Japan to a degree, Japan, it's not clear if it's a crush-like affection or simply a case of a young girl who wants her favorite sibling to aknowledge her. A lot of the accusations also seem to take {{fanon}} as canon: it's true that some Japan/Taiwan shippers reduce the very complicated Japanese occupation of the Taiwanese island to a RomanceNovel-like deal, but ''that is not the fault of Taiwan the character in any way'' and ''it doesn't necessarily reflect their her canon interaction''.interaction with Japan''.
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** [[{{Shorttank}} Wy]] got pegged with this shortly after her first appearance by [[ToyShip Sealand/Latvia and Sealand/Iceland]] shippers. The fact that she already had {{Scrappy}} status from being a BrattyHalfPint certainly didn't help her case any.

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** [[{{Shorttank}} Wy]] got pegged with this shortly after her first appearance by [[ToyShip Sealand/Latvia and Sealand/Iceland]] shippers. The fact that she already had {{Scrappy}} status from being a BrattyHalfPint certainly didn't help her case any.any.
** Taiwan is generally liked as she's a [[GenkiGirl cheerful]] PluckyGirl, but she's often falsely accused of being Japan's RelationshipSue and prospect child bride. Thing is, while canon shows that she looks up to Japan to a degree, it's not clear if it's crush-like affection or simply a case of a young girl who wants her favorite sibling to aknowledge her. A lot of the accusations also seem to take {{fanon}} as canon: it's true that some Japan/Taiwan shippers reduce the very complicated Japanese occupation of the Taiwanese island to a RomanceNovel-like deal, but ''that is not the fault of Taiwan the character in any way'' and ''it doesn't reflect their canon interaction''.
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** [[{{Shorttank}} Wy]] got pegged with this shortly after her first appearance by [[ToyShip Sealand/Latvia and Sealand/Iceland]] shippers. The fact that she already had {{Scrappy}} status from being a MouthyHalfPint certainly didn't help her case any.

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** [[{{Shorttank}} Wy]] got pegged with this shortly after her first appearance by [[ToyShip Sealand/Latvia and Sealand/Iceland]] shippers. The fact that she already had {{Scrappy}} status from being a MouthyHalfPint BrattyHalfPint certainly didn't help her case any.
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** Even Liechtenstein, who's a NiceGirl in canon, is once in a while treated as being an evil MarySue who stole Switzerland from Austria. (Nevermind that she and Austria are civil to each other in canon). Luckily it's not that common, but there are some UnfortunateImplications in how the hate stopped ''only'' in the {{Hetalia Bloodbath 2011}} when she seemed to [[ShipperOnDeck approve of Swiss and Austria's somewhat improved relationship.]]

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** Even Liechtenstein, who's a NiceGirl in canon, is once in a while treated as being an evil MarySue who stole Switzerland from Austria. (Nevermind that she and Austria are civil to each other in canon). Luckily it's not that common, but there are some UnfortunateImplications in how the hate stopped ''only'' in the {{Hetalia Bloodbath 2011}} when she seemed to [[ShipperOnDeck approve of Swiss and Austria's somewhat improved relationship.]]]]
** Poor Ukraine actually gets this from a certain corner of the fandom who bash her for a barely hinted at BrotherSisterIncest affection for Russia in her character song. A lot of the bashing comes from the fact that she dares to have [[GagBoobs a large chest]] and is a [[NiceGuy Nice Girl]] and relatively well-liked TeamMom, which makes the HetIsEw camps treat her as an annoying crybaby MarySue [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses who is a terrible female character]]. Never mind that she canonically has hints of being a LadyOfWar and is a huge ChewToy.
** [[{{Shorttank}} Wy]] got pegged with this shortly after her first appearance by [[ToyShip Sealand/Latvia and Sealand/Iceland]] shippers. The fact that she already had {{Scrappy}} status from being a MouthyHalfPint certainly didn't help her case any.
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''Manga/AxisPowersHetalia'', despite being a show full of HoYay-fueled {{Moe Anthropomorphism}}s, has a fandom that's largely free of ShippingWars, probably because almost any pairing can be [[RealitySubtext justified]], and multishipping and ShipMates are very common. But even it isn't ''completely'' free from this trope (...okay, the list below ''is'' rather long, but that's mainly because of LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters, and most examples are still limited to VocalMinority status).

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''Manga/AxisPowersHetalia'', despite being a show full of HoYay-fueled {{Moe Anthropomorphism}}s, has a fandom that's largely free of ShippingWars, probably because almost any pairing can be [[RealitySubtext justified]], and multishipping and ShipMates are very common. But even it isn't ''completely'' free from this trope (...okay, the list below ''is'' rather long, but that's mainly because of LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters, and most examples are still limited to VocalMinority status).
status). In other words, even the nicest and most civil of fanbases - Hetalia shipping being on the whole wonderfully accommodating - can't eradicate the 'fanatic' in 'fandom.'
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*** Are we talking about the 5 issue mini-series ''Independence Sky'' (with 2 side-stories featuring America's childhood) about the American revolution where France opens up America's eyes to his people's situation and then acts the EvilMentor route of trying to use him to get revenge in his and England's ongoing feud? Because this troper doesn't recall any rape or outright evil behaviour from France in that at all. In fact there was just 1 scene between England and France in the main series where England pulls France's eye out and tells France to keep out of his and America's business (that was it), and in fact all countries are implied as having the same warmongering tendencies as France, with England saying, to quote: "I don't put my trust in countries, they're all war junkies...".

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*** Are we talking about the 5 issue mini-series ''Independence Sky'' (with 2 side-stories featuring America's childhood) about the American revolution where France opens up America's eyes to his people's situation and then acts the EvilMentor route of trying to use him to get revenge in his and England's ongoing feud? Because this troper doesn't recall any rape or outright evil behaviour from France in that at all. In fact there was just 1 scene between England and France in the main series series, where England pulls France's eye out and tells France to keep out of his and America's business (that was it), and in fact all countries are implied as having the same warmongering tendencies as France, with England saying, to quote: "I don't put my trust in countries, they're all war junkies...". This troper is honestly quite confused, as she was going to list it as a clear example of the FIRST rather than the second.
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**** A ManipulativeBastard France that tries to take advantage of England's difficult situation with America and cash good benefits from it, and possibly showing some MagnificentBastard inklings, would fit in canon; a France who acts like a CardCarryingVillain, who jizzes in his panties with the idea of making PurityStu!England suffer, AND manipulates America in hopes of breaking poor little martyr England forever would NOT. The ''Independence Sky'' doujinshi series by Hakka Pink is a clear example of the second, since their France is almost nothing but a total asshole who cackles evilly while manipulating an awfully character-derailed America and England (to give you an iea of the last point, [[spoiler: America actually '''[[RapeIsLove rapes England]]''' at least twice]], which is something canon!America would NEVER do) and goes pretty much psycho at the end of the series [[spoiler: to the point of losing an eye]]: that's '''very''' clearly a portrayal of France intended to make him a borderline CompleteMonster who wants to destroy the "love" between America and England, rather than a smart and cunning rival doing his best to assert his own power in this special situation.

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**** A ManipulativeBastard France that tries to take advantage of England's difficult situation with America and cash good benefits from it, and possibly showing some MagnificentBastard inklings, would fit in canon; a France who acts like a CardCarryingVillain, who jizzes in his panties with the idea of making PurityStu!England suffer, AND manipulates America in hopes of breaking poor little martyr England forever would NOT. The ''Independence Sky'' doujinshi series by Hakka Pink is a clear example of the second, since their France is almost nothing but a total asshole who cackles evilly while manipulating an awfully character-derailed America and England (to give you an iea of the last point, [[spoiler: America [[spoiler:America actually '''[[RapeIsLove '''[[VictimFallsForRapist rapes England]]''' at least twice]], which is something canon!America would NEVER do) and goes pretty much psycho at the end of the series [[spoiler: to the point of losing an eye]]: that's '''very''' clearly a portrayal of France intended to make him a borderline CompleteMonster who wants to destroy the "love" between America and England, rather than a smart and cunning rival doing his best to assert his own power in this special situation.
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*** Are we talking about the 5 issue mini-series ''Independence Sky'' (with 2 side-stories featuring America's childhood) about the American revolution where France opens up America's eyes to his people's situation and then acts the EvilMentor route of trying to use him to get revenge in his and England's ongoing feud? Because this troper doesn't recall any rape or outright evil behaviour from France in that at all. In fact there was just 1 scene between England and France in the main series where England pulls France's eye out and tells France to keep out of his and America's business (that was it), and in fact all countries are implied as having the same warmongering tendencies as France, with England saying, to quote: "I don't put my trust in countries, they're all war junkies...".
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* England gets the worst of this from militant Russia/America fans who [[RonTheDeathEater twist and warp]] his {{Tsundere}} behavior and possible crush toward America to JerkAss or even {{Yandere}} levels to make him into a pathetic [[CrazyJealousGuy Crazy Jealous]] HopelessSuitor who can't accept that America doesn't want him or even a creepy pedophile who's been perving on America ever since he was a kid. The worst cases have England as a DomesticAbuser toward America who seems to have forgotten all about his own SuperStrength or a ManipulativeBastard who uses poor America's undying love for him to emotionally abuse him. (Russia, if he appears, is [[DracoInLeatherPants of course entirely sane and supportive to America]].) Never mind that in canon, England has almost {{Woobie}} moments with America, or that America is actually a lot harder on him than the other way around.

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* England gets the worst of this from militant Russia/America fans who [[RonTheDeathEater twist and warp]] his {{Tsundere}} behavior and possible crush toward America to JerkAss or even {{Yandere}} levels to make him into a pathetic [[CrazyJealousGuy Crazy Jealous]] HopelessSuitor who can't accept that America doesn't want him or even a creepy pedophile who's been perving on America ever since he was a kid. The worst cases have England as a DomesticAbuser toward America who seems to have forgotten all about his own SuperStrength or a ManipulativeBastard who uses poor America's undying love for him to emotionally abuse him. (Russia, if he appears, is [[DracoInLeatherPants of course entirely sane and supportive to America]].) Never mind that in canon, England has almost {{Woobie}} moments with America, or that America is actually a lot harder on him than the other way around. Or that Russia is clearly Satan.
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** Even Liechtenstein, who's a NiceGirl in canon, is once in a while treated as being an evil MarySue who stole Switzerland from Austria. (Nevermind that she and Austria are civil to each other in canon). Luckily it's not that common, but there are some UnfortunateImplications in how the hate stopped ''only'' in the {{Hetalia Bloodbath 2010}} when she seemed to [[ShipperOnDeck approve of Swiss and Austria's somewhat improved relationship.]]

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** Even Liechtenstein, who's a NiceGirl in canon, is once in a while treated as being an evil MarySue who stole Switzerland from Austria. (Nevermind that she and Austria are civil to each other in canon). Luckily it's not that common, but there are some UnfortunateImplications in how the hate stopped ''only'' in the {{Hetalia Bloodbath 2010}} 2011}} when she seemed to [[ShipperOnDeck approve of Swiss and Austria's somewhat improved relationship.]]

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* Liechtenstein is treated as being MarySue who stole Switzerland from Austria, luckily, thank to event in {{BloodBath2010}} which stop the hate.



** Belgium may not be as big of a target as Seychelles, but she still gets potshots from rabid Spain/Romano fangirls that falsely accuse her of standing in between. An apparently LostForever [[http://storikeeper.tumblr.com/post/8610938986/are-we-still-going-on-with-this-whole-belgium-thing Spamano fanart]] has ''Canada threatening to hit her'' ([[ShrinkingViolet yes]], '''[[NiceGuy CANADA]]''') because she won't give up on interferring with them, ''and we're supposed to cheer for Canada when he says he'll hit her''.

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** Belgium may not be as big of a target as Seychelles, but she still gets potshots from rabid Spain/Romano fangirls that falsely accuse her of standing in between. An apparently LostForever [[http://storikeeper.tumblr.com/post/8610938986/are-we-still-going-on-with-this-whole-belgium-thing Spamano fanart]] has ''Canada threatening to hit her'' ([[ShrinkingViolet yes]], '''[[NiceGuy CANADA]]''') because she won't give up on interferring with them, ''and we're supposed to cheer for Canada when he says he'll hit her''.her''.
** Even Liechtenstein, who's a NiceGirl in canon, is once in a while treated as being an evil MarySue who stole Switzerland from Austria. (Nevermind that she and Austria are civil to each other in canon). Luckily it's not that common, but there are some UnfortunateImplications in how the hate stopped ''only'' in the {{Hetalia Bloodbath 2010}} when she seemed to [[ShipperOnDeck approve of Swiss and Austria's somewhat improved relationship.]]
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* There's also the portrayal of [[TheWhitePrince Austria]] in some [[HotBlooded Prussia]]/[[NinjaMaid Hungary]] fanworks. While they rarely go so far as to make Austria [[DomesticAbuse beat the hell out of Hungary]] (who's still [[HotAmazon physically]] [[NinjaMaid stronger]] [[NonActionGuy than he is]], anyway), they still sometimes portray him as a SpectacledSadist [[TheUnfairSex cold, snobbish and neglectful of Hungary to the point of emotional abuse]] to not only discredit their canon marriage as a loveless ArrangedMarriage (even though they show romantic affection for each other even ''after'' their "divorce") but to have Hungary [[GoodAdulteryBadAdultery seek out comfort]] in the [[RichSuitorPoorSuitor "not as well-off but more fun and passionate"]] [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend Prussia]]'s arms [[YourCheatingHeart behind Austria's back]]. More than once it's coupled with {{Chickification}}, since Hungary goes from a {{Tomboy}} [[GirlinessUpgrade who became more girly without losing]] [[PluckyGirl her backbone]] [[BadassAdorable and fighting skills]] to a weepy and wangsty mess who whines and cries about her "loveless married life" with abusive-asshole!Austria and pines endlessly for badass-romantic-hero!Prussia rescuing her from such torment - without even ''attempting'' to do anything for her own sake.

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* There's also the portrayal of [[TheWhitePrince Austria]] in some [[HotBlooded Prussia]]/[[NinjaMaid Hungary]] fanworks. While they rarely go so far as to make Austria [[DomesticAbuse beat the hell out of Hungary]] (who's still [[HotAmazon physically]] [[NinjaMaid stronger]] [[NonActionGuy than he is]], anyway), they still sometimes portray him as a SpectacledSadist BespectacledBastardBoyfriend [[TheUnfairSex cold, snobbish and neglectful of Hungary to the point of emotional abuse]] to not only discredit their canon marriage as a loveless ArrangedMarriage (even though they show romantic affection for each other even ''after'' their "divorce") but to have Hungary [[GoodAdulteryBadAdultery seek out comfort]] in the [[RichSuitorPoorSuitor "not as well-off but more fun and passionate"]] [[UnluckyChildhoodFriend Prussia]]'s arms [[YourCheatingHeart behind Austria's back]]. More than once it's coupled with {{Chickification}}, since Hungary goes from a {{Tomboy}} [[GirlinessUpgrade who became more girly without losing]] [[PluckyGirl her backbone]] [[BadassAdorable and fighting skills]] to a weepy and wangsty mess who whines and cries about her "loveless married life" with abusive-asshole!Austria and pines endlessly for badass-romantic-hero!Prussia rescuing her from such torment - without even ''attempting'' to do anything for her own sake.
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** Some fanworks take Denmark's canon BoisterousBruiser traits and make him an insane {{Yandere}} who drove Sweden to run away with Finland after raping and torturing him into almost insanity. Even some works that are ''ostensively'' Denmark/Sweden use this; there's a very popular doujin that represents the infamous [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_Bloodbath Stockholm Massacre]] by first making Denmark [[EyeScream severely injure Sweden's eyes]] with his axe when Sweden merely says something that ''sounds'' like he'll leave the Nordic group (which "explains" why Sweden uses glasses), and then torturing and raping him among the ruins of Stockholm right after his defeat.

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** Some fanworks take Denmark's canon BoisterousBruiser traits and make him an insane {{Yandere}} who drove Sweden to run away with Finland after raping and torturing him into almost insanity. Even some works that are ''ostensively'' Denmark/Sweden use this; there's a very popular doujin that represents the infamous [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_Bloodbath Stockholm Massacre]] by first making Denmark [[EyeScream severely injure Sweden's eyes]] with his axe when Sweden merely says something that ''sounds'' like he'll leave the Nordic group (which "explains" why Sweden uses glasses), and then torturing and raping him among the ruins of Stockholm right after his defeat.(Though in that doujin has a rather cute reconcilation between them at the end.)
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* There are a distressing number of stories where America, North Italy and/or Poland's natural [[TheDitz ditziness]] gets exaggerated to RalphWiggum levels of stupidity in order to illustrate how they'd be unsuitable partners to another character (often England, Germany or Lithuania, respectively). Yes, America's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he's not a moron that needs help counting to ten; Italy may not take everything seriously, but he's not brainless; and Poland is flighty, but he's most certainly not an idiot that makes a chimp look like Einstein in comparison.

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* There are a distressing number of stories where America, North Italy and/or Poland's natural [[TheDitz ditziness]] gets exaggerated to RalphWiggum levels of stupidity in order to illustrate illustrates how they'd be unsuitable partners to another character (often England, Germany or Lithuania, respectively). Yes, America's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he's not a moron that needs help counting to ten; Italy may not take everything seriously, but he's not brainless; and Poland is flighty, but he's most certainly not an idiot that makes a chimp look like Einstein in comparison.
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''AxisPowersHetalia'', despite being a show full of HoYay-fueled {{Moe Anthropomorphism}}s, has a fandom that's largely free of ShippingWars, probably because almost any pairing can be [[RealitySubtext justified]], and multishipping and ShipMates are very common. But even it isn't ''completely'' free from this trope (...okay, the list below ''is'' rather long, but that's mainly because of LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters, and most examples are still limited to VocalMinority status).

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''AxisPowersHetalia'', ''Manga/AxisPowersHetalia'', despite being a show full of HoYay-fueled {{Moe Anthropomorphism}}s, has a fandom that's largely free of ShippingWars, probably because almost any pairing can be [[RealitySubtext justified]], and multishipping and ShipMates are very common. But even it isn't ''completely'' free from this trope (...okay, the list below ''is'' rather long, but that's mainly because of LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters, and most examples are still limited to VocalMinority status).
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* [[BadassLongcoat Romania]] is starting to get this treatment from [[VocalMinority some rabid]] Prussia/Hungary fans, especially because many fans have liked him since his appearance and started shipping him with Hungary, even though [[FoeYay Romania and Hungary are said to hate each other with a burning passion]] -- which is easy to see as potential InterplayOfSexAndViolence). He's also interpreted pretty badass due to the fact that he's ''apparently'' a mischievous yangire with a vampire vibe AND also uses Black Magic, which helped increase his popularity even more. [[http://www.zerochan.net/683411 He also looks like a combination between Hungary and Prussia]].

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* [[BadassLongcoat Romania]] is starting to get this treatment from [[VocalMinority some rabid]] Prussia/Hungary fans, especially because many fans have liked him since his appearance and started shipping him with Hungary, even though [[FoeYay Romania and Hungary are said to hate each other with a burning passion]] -- which is easy to see as potential InterplayOfSexAndViolence).InterplayOfSexAndViolence. He's also interpreted pretty badass due to the fact that he's ''apparently'' a mischievous yangire with a vampire vibe AND also uses Black Magic, which helped increase his popularity even more. [[http://www.zerochan.net/683411 He also looks like a combination between Hungary and Prussia]].



* While still rare ([[TemptingFate we hope]]), some rabid Prussia/Canada fans are really ''horrible'' not only to France, but to ''[[BigFun Cuba]]'' too. Because not being a {{Bishonen}} and mistaking Canada for America apparently makes Cuba an horrible bully whom Prussia must defeat to release poor uke Canada from his abuse, obviously missing how Cuba is ''very'' apologetic whenever that happens and how they get along extremely well otherwise.

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* While still rare ([[TemptingFate we hope]]), some rabid Prussia/Canada fans are really ''horrible'' not only to France, but to ''[[BigFun Cuba]]'' too. Because not being a {{Bishonen}} and mistaking Canada for America apparently makes Cuba an a horrible bully whom Prussia must defeat to release poor uke Canada from his abuse, obviously missing how Cuba is ''very'' apologetic whenever that happens and how they get along extremely well otherwise.



** Belgium may not be as big of a target as Seychelles, but she still gets potshots from rabid Spain/Romano fangirls that falsely accuses her of standing in between. An apparently LostForever [[http://storikeeper.tumblr.com/post/8610938986/are-we-still-going-on-with-this-whole-belgium-thing Spamano fanart]] has her ''Canada threatening to hit her'' ([[ShrinkingViolet yes]], '''[[NiceGuy CANADA]]''') because she won't give up on interferring with them, ''and we're supposed to cheer for Canada when he says he'll hit her''.

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** Belgium may not be as big of a target as Seychelles, but she still gets potshots from rabid Spain/Romano fangirls that falsely accuses accuse her of standing in between. An apparently LostForever [[http://storikeeper.tumblr.com/post/8610938986/are-we-still-going-on-with-this-whole-belgium-thing Spamano fanart]] has her ''Canada threatening to hit her'' ([[ShrinkingViolet yes]], '''[[NiceGuy CANADA]]''') because she won't give up on interferring with them, ''and we're supposed to cheer for Canada when he says he'll hit her''.
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** Belgium may not be as big of a target as Seychelles, but she still gets potshots from rabid Spain/Romano fangirls that falsely accuses her of standing in between. An apparently LostForever [[http://romanorgasm.tumblr.com/post/8611357251 Spamano fanart]] has her ''Canada threatening to hit her'' ([[ShrinkingViolet yes]], '''[[NiceGuy CANADA]]''') because she won't give up on interferring with them, ''and we're supposed to cheer for Canada when he says he'll hit her''.

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** Belgium may not be as big of a target as Seychelles, but she still gets potshots from rabid Spain/Romano fangirls that falsely accuses her of standing in between. An apparently LostForever [[http://romanorgasm.[[http://storikeeper.tumblr.com/post/8611357251 com/post/8610938986/are-we-still-going-on-with-this-whole-belgium-thing Spamano fanart]] has her ''Canada threatening to hit her'' ([[ShrinkingViolet yes]], '''[[NiceGuy CANADA]]''') because she won't give up on interferring with them, ''and we're supposed to cheer for Canada when he says he'll hit her''.
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** Belgium may not be as big of a target as Seychelles, but she still gets potshots from rabid Spain/Romano fangirls that falsely accuses her of standing in between. An apparently LostForever [[http://coquifroggy.tumblr.com/post/8611683988/are-we-still-going-on-with-this-whole-belgium-thing Spamano fanart]] has her ''Canada threatening to hit her'' ([[ShrinkingViolet yes]], '''[[NiceGuy CANADA]]''') because she won't give up on interferring with them, ''and we're supposed to cheer for Canada when he says he'll hit her''.

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** Belgium may not be as big of a target as Seychelles, but she still gets potshots from rabid Spain/Romano fangirls that falsely accuses her of standing in between. An apparently LostForever [[http://coquifroggy.[[http://romanorgasm.tumblr.com/post/8611683988/are-we-still-going-on-with-this-whole-belgium-thing com/post/8611357251 Spamano fanart]] has her ''Canada threatening to hit her'' ([[ShrinkingViolet yes]], '''[[NiceGuy CANADA]]''') because she won't give up on interferring with them, ''and we're supposed to cheer for Canada when he says he'll hit her''.
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** Belgium may not be as big of a target as Seychelles, but she still gets potshots from rabid Spain/Romano fangirls that falsely accuses her of standing in between. An apparently LostForever Spamano fic has her ''being beaten up by Canada'' ([[ShrinkingViolet yes]], '''[[NiceGuy CANADA]]''') because she won't give up on interferring with them, ''and we're supposed to cheer for Canada when he hits her''.

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** Belgium may not be as big of a target as Seychelles, but she still gets potshots from rabid Spain/Romano fangirls that falsely accuses her of standing in between. An apparently LostForever [[http://coquifroggy.tumblr.com/post/8611683988/are-we-still-going-on-with-this-whole-belgium-thing Spamano fic fanart]] has her ''being beaten up by Canada'' ''Canada threatening to hit her'' ([[ShrinkingViolet yes]], '''[[NiceGuy CANADA]]''') because she won't give up on interferring with them, ''and we're supposed to cheer for Canada when he hits says he'll hit her''.
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* Last but not least, all of the female characters in Hetalia have been falsely accused of being {{Relationship Sue}}s for the guys. While it ''is'' true that some shippers in both W-Fen and J-Fen are fond of [[PossessionSue disregarding the girls's canon personalities in their fanwork]] (with America/Belarus, America/Vietnam, England/Seychelles, Prussia/Hungary and Japan/Taiwan shippers as the main culprits), that is hardly the ''girls's'' own fault as they are not necessarily there just to have the guys stick their cocks inside of any of them. (Also, let's consider how many ''male'' characters [[{{Ukefication}} fall in the same trap]] [[DoubleStandard but this seems to be tolerated much more]] by the ''same'' fangirls who whine about the girls being Sues...)

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* Last but not least, all of the female characters in Hetalia have been falsely accused of being {{Relationship Sue}}s for the guys. While it ''is'' true that some shippers in both W-Fen and J-Fen are fond of [[PossessionSue disregarding the girls's canon personalities in their fanwork]] (with America/Belarus, America/Vietnam, England/Seychelles, Prussia/Hungary and Japan/Taiwan shippers as the main culprits), that is hardly the ''girls's'' own fault as they are not necessarily there just to have the guys stick their cocks inside of any of them. (Also, let's consider how many ''male'' characters [[{{Ukefication}} [[{{Wimpification}} fall in the same trap]] [[DoubleStandard but this seems to be tolerated much more]] by the ''same'' fangirls who whine about the girls being Sues...)
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** While some Prussia/Hungary fans see Romania as a "serious obstacle" like they do to Austria, others treat the "rivalry" more as a RunningGag and make Prussia a prospect ButtMonkey whom Hungary is still {{Tsundere}} for, rather than a super Stu-fied romance hero who must "recover" his live interest from Romania's "dirty" paws and vampire teeth. And two/three others seem to favor an {{OT3}} in which Hungary gets it on with ''both'' Prussia and Romania. So {{YMMV}} on that one.

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** While some Prussia/Hungary fans see Romania as a "serious obstacle" like they do to Austria, others treat the "rivalry" more as a RunningGag and make Prussia a prospect ButtMonkey whom Hungary is still {{Tsundere}} for, rather than a super Stu-fied romance hero who must "recover" his live love interest from Romania's "dirty" paws and vampire teeth. And two/three others seem to favor an {{OT3}} in which Hungary gets it on with ''both'' Prussia and Romania. So {{YMMV}} on that one.
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**** A ManipulativeBastard France that tries to take advantage of England's difficult situation with America and cash good benefits from it, and possibly showing some MagnificentBastard inklings, would fit in canon; a France who acts like a CardCarryingVillain, who jizzes in his panties with the idea of making PurityStu!England suffer, AND manipulates America in hopes of breaking poor little martyr England forever would NOT. The ''Independence Sky'' doujinshi series by Hakka Pink is a clear example of the second, since their France is almost nothing but a total asshole who cackles evilly while manipulating an awfully character-derailed America and England (to give you an iea of the last point, [[spoiler: America actually '''[[RapeIsLove rapes England]]''' at least twice]], which is something canon!America would NEVER do) and goes pretty much psycho at the end of the series [[spoiler: to the point of losing an eye]]: that's '''very''' clearly a portrayal of France intended to make him a borderline CompleteMonster who wants to destroy the "love" between America and England, rather than a smart and cunning rival doing his best to assert his own power in this special situation.


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** Belgium may not be as big of a target as Seychelles, but she still gets potshots from rabid Spain/Romano fangirls that falsely accuses her of standing in between. An apparently LostForever Spamano fic has her ''being beaten up by Canada'' ([[ShrinkingViolet yes]], '''[[NiceGuy CANADA]]''') because she won't give up on interferring with them, ''and we're supposed to cheer for Canada when he hits her''.
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*** To be fair, one of the main reasons that the French Crown got involved with the American Revolution '''was''' to get revenge on England for the Seven Years War. In canon, France is pretty self-centered and likes to cash in on other people's victories, so him being a "borderline EvilMentor" isn't that out of character. It can definitely be pushed too far(and often is) but the premise is relatively reasonable.

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