History DieForOurShip / AxisPowersHetalia

7th May '16 11:40:04 AM Wyldchyld
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** For Poland/Hungary fics, you can replace "Gilbert" with "Feliks" and it's the same. Apparently the Polish and Hungarian traditional friendship, their parts in the 1848 revolutions and the Austro-Hungarian Compromise that came in later equal to "Austria is cold and cruel and rapes Hungary every night and keeps her locked up while pretending they're HappilyMarried in public, so she whines and cries herself to sleep and needs to be rescued from her torture by a super manly JerkStu who only resembles Poland in name!"



** While some Prussia/Hungary fans see Romania as a "serious obstacle" like they do to Austria, others treat the "rivalry" more as a RunningGag and make Prussia a prospect ButtMonkey whom Hungary is still {{Tsundere}} for, rather than a super Stu-fied romance hero who must "recover" his love interest from Romania's "dirty" paws and vampire teeth. And two/three others seem to favor an {{OT3}} in which Hungary gets it on with ''both'' Prussia and Romania.
*** ... And then this disappeared when [[NiceGuy Bulgaria]] showed up and turned out to be Romania's close friend and prospect HoYay partner.

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** While some Prussia/Hungary fans see Romania as a "serious obstacle" like they do to Austria, others treat the "rivalry" more as a RunningGag and make Prussia a prospect ButtMonkey whom Hungary is still {{Tsundere}} for, rather than a super Stu-fied romance hero who must "recover" his love interest from Romania's "dirty" paws and vampire teeth. And two/three others seem to favor an {{OT3}} in which Hungary gets it on with ''both'' Prussia and Romania.
*** ... And then this disappeared when [[NiceGuy Bulgaria]] showed up and turned out to be Romania's close friend and prospect HoYay partner.
Romania.



** Don't forget the "feminists" who also apply the "girls are Relationship Sues" trap to her. Double when they also whine about how [[RealWomenNeverWearDresses Hungary is a horrible role model for girls]] and a slutty SatelliteLoveInterest because of her GirlinessUpgrade and her love of Austria.



* While it hasn't translated into outright RonTheDeathEater in fanworks yet (if only because most Turkey/Greece works simply leave Japan out entirely), the VocalMinority of Turkey/Greece shippers can become very wanky toward Japan and the Greece/Japan ship when provoked, especially after the "provocation" of the anime faithfully adapting some of Japan's strips with Greece and Turkey that had been on the Web for ''years'' beforehand, with them deriding Japan as a FlatCharacter who only got the attention of Greece and Turkey because of him being a "gigantic CanonSue who has half of the cast as his harem" and claiming that Greece [[SatelliteLoveInterest loses all personality and historical depth]] when paired with him over his "far more interesting and historically important" rival Turkey.

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* While it hasn't translated into outright RonTheDeathEater in fanworks yet (if only because most Turkey/Greece works simply leave Japan out entirely), the VocalMinority of Turkey/Greece shippers can become very wanky toward Japan and the Greece/Japan ship when provoked, especially after the "provocation" of the anime faithfully adapting some of Japan's strips with Greece and Turkey that had been on the Web for ''years'' beforehand, with them deriding Japan as a FlatCharacter who only got the attention of Greece and Turkey because of him being a "gigantic CanonSue who has having half of the cast as his harem" harem and claiming that Greece [[SatelliteLoveInterest loses all personality and historical depth]] when paired with him over his "far more interesting and historically important" rival Turkey.



** A more subtle yet venomous and insidious way to make France look bad in USUK fics (principally {{doujinshi}}) is to take the French Crown's historical role in UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution and flanderize it by characterising France as a borderline EvilMentor to America who sleeps around in the war camps and seems to have fun by pitting a young and easy to manipulate America against his eternal enemy England under the excuse of "giving America the chance to develop into his own country", but actually just wants to make England suffer and get revenge against him. Way to twist ~historical canon~ to fit your ship preferences, people. To be fair, one of the main reasons that the French Crown got involved with the American Revolution '''was''' to get revenge on England for the Seven Years War. In canon, France is pretty self-centered and likes to cash in on other people's victories, so him being a "borderline EvilMentor" isn't that out of character. But it ''can'' (and more often than not, '''is''') taken too far, with France as spiteful and pit against a {{Purity Stu}}fied England.

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** A more subtle yet venomous and insidious way to make France look bad in USUK fics (principally {{doujinshi}}) is to take the French Crown's historical role in UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution and flanderize it by characterising France as a borderline EvilMentor to America who sleeps around in the war camps and seems to have fun by pitting a young and easy to manipulate America against his eternal enemy England under the excuse of "giving America the chance to develop into his own country", but actually just wants to make England suffer and get revenge against him. Way to twist ~historical canon~ to fit your ship preferences, people. To be fair, one of the main reasons that the French Crown got involved with the American Revolution '''was''' to get revenge on England for the Seven Years War. In canon, France is pretty self-centered and likes to cash in on other people's victories, so him being a "borderline EvilMentor" isn't that out of character. But it ''can'' (and more often than not, '''is''') taken too far, with France as spiteful and pit against a {{Purity Stu}}fied England.



* '''''All''''' of the female characters in Hetalia have been falsely accused of being {{Relationship Sue}}s for the guys. While it ''is'' true that some shippers in both W-Fen and J-Fen are fond of [[PossessionSue disregarding the girls's canon personalities in their fanwork]] (with America/Belarus, America/Vietnam, England/Seychelles, Prussia/Hungary and Japan/Taiwan shippers as the main culprits), that is hardly the ''girls's'' own fault as they are not necessarily there just to have the guys stick their cocks inside of any of them. (Also, let's consider how many ''male'' characters [[{{Wimpification}} fall in the same trap]] [[DoubleStandard but this seems to be tolerated much more]] by the ''same'' fangirls who whine about the girls being Sues...)
** ...with the exception of Japan who was getting just as bad RelationshipSue accusations from the VocalMinority of [[AmericansHateTingle W-fen]] long before the above cases came to light, with them making his [[LauncherOfAThousandShips LOATS]] status in J-fen out to be a ''horrible'' MisplacedNationalism crime worthy of bashing him for alone. Some of them even used this to discredit the England/Japan pairing (many England/Japan fics do suffer from [=OOCness=] and {{Relationship Sue}}dom for Japan, but that doesn't mean that the ''pairing itself'' has zero credibility!). And when they found out about the Greece/Japan/Turkey triangle, their accusations got truly ridiculous. All while the majority either ignored them, {{squee}}d over the episodes, or went "...What, you're just learning about Japan's relations with Greece ''now''? Boy, you ''really'' need to read the webcomic in full."
** The biggest female victim is Seychelles, the local NubileSavage and PluckyGirl. She was a minor character with a mere cameo in the comics... then she became an AscendedExtra in [[HighSchoolAU Gakuen Hetalia]] (both the original script and the PSP game), and then the poor girl started getting shit from ''everyone'' coming from ''everywhere''. The HetIsEw camp called her a RelationshipSue and the USUK and FRUK rabidshippers accused her of being a slut and standing in between their beaus because she had some degree of ShipTease with both England and France. (Nevermind that France is after AnythingThatMoves, that Gakuen Hetalia isn't that centered in romance but more in ThePowerOfFriendship, and that in the PSP game itself [[spoiler: Seychelles actually ''helps'' America to regain England's attention and affections after a fight, which can easily be interpreted as her PlayingCyrano for them.]])



** Even Liechtenstein, who's a ProperLady in canon, is once in a while treated as being an evil MarySue who stole Switzerland from Austria. (Nevermind that she and Austria are very polite and civil to each other in canon). Luckily it's not that common, but there are some UnfortunateImplications in how the hate stopped ''only'' in the ''Manga/HetaliaBloodbath2011'' when she seemed to [[ShipperOnDeck approve of Swiss and Austria's somewhat improved relationship.]]
** Poor Ukraine actually gets this from a certain corner of the fandom who bash her for a barely hinted at BrotherSisterIncest affection for Russia in her character song. A lot of the bashing comes from the fact that she dares to have [[GagBoobs a large chest]] and is a NiceGirl and relatively well-liked TeamMom, which makes the HetIsEw camps treat her as an annoying crybaby MarySue [[WhatMeasureIsANonBadass who is a terrible female character]]. Never mind that she canonically has hints of being a LadyOfWar and is a huge ChewToy.

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** Even Liechtenstein, who's a ProperLady in canon, is once in a while treated as being an evil MarySue who stole for stealing Switzerland from Austria. (Nevermind that she and Austria are very polite and civil to each other in canon). Luckily it's not that common, but there are some UnfortunateImplications in how the hate stopped ''only'' in the ''Manga/HetaliaBloodbath2011'' when she seemed to [[ShipperOnDeck approve of Swiss and Austria's somewhat improved relationship.]]
** Poor Ukraine actually gets this from a certain corner of the fandom who bash her for a barely hinted at BrotherSisterIncest affection for Russia in her character song. A lot of the bashing comes from the fact that she dares to have [[GagBoobs a large chest]] and is a NiceGirl and relatively well-liked TeamMom, which makes the HetIsEw camps treat her as an annoying crybaby MarySue [[WhatMeasureIsANonBadass who is a terrible female character]]. Never mind that she canonically has hints of being a LadyOfWar and is a huge ChewToy.



** Taiwan is generally liked as she's a [[GenkiGirl cheerful]] PluckyGirl, but she's often falsely accused of being Japan's RelationshipSue and prospect child bride. Thing is, while canon shows that she ''does'' look up to Japan and prefers him to China, it's not clear if it's [[BigBrotherAttraction a crush-like affection on her "brother"]] or simply a case of a young girl [[WellDoneSonGuy who wants her favorite sibling to aknowledge her.]] A lot of the accusations also seem to take {{fanon}} as canon: it's true that some Japan/Taiwan shippers reduce the very complicated Japanese occupation of the Taiwanese island to a RomanceNovel-like LadyAndKnight deal, but ''that is not the fault of Taiwan the character in any way'' and ''it doesn't necessarily reflect her canon interaction with Japan''. (Specially considering that, in canon, Taiwan has had ShipTease with [[LesYay Vietnam]] and [[CherylBlossom Korea]] as well, and while she looks up to Japan she doesn't seem to be a ClingyJealousGirl to him, [[NeverLiveItDown "leave Japan alone" panel aside.]])
** Even Vietnam, who has had barely any screentime at all gets this from people who dislike how some members of the fandom pair her up with America, Russia, France, and/or China and refer to her as a RelationshipSue because of {{Fanon}} portrayals. Despite the fact that, in canon, she has not had any ShipTease with anyone other than Taiwan and Thailand so far, she has gotten some accusations of being a FlatCharacter who only exists to ruin other pairings. Thankfully, this portion of the fanbase is very small in comparison with hate that the other females have gotten, as it's very easy to ignore her character entirely.
* Lithuania tends to get accusations of being a MartyStu from fans who pair Russia or Poland (or America or Belarus...) with someone else. Not all of it is because of this; Lithuania is, after all, portrayed as a ''very'' [[TheWoobie sympathetic]] NiceGuy for a country that was once powerful, and Himaruya seemed [[CreatorsPet quite fond of him]] in 2007-2008 (though this has improved since, with him being passive-aggressive and rude towards Prussia in a recent sketch). But a few fans have admitted to disliking him just for "getting in the way" of their ship.

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** Taiwan is generally liked as she's a [[GenkiGirl cheerful]] PluckyGirl, but she's often falsely accused of being Japan's RelationshipSue and prospect child bride. Thing is, while canon shows that she ''does'' look up to Japan and prefers him to China, it's not clear if it's [[BigBrotherAttraction a crush-like affection on her "brother"]] or simply a case of a young girl [[WellDoneSonGuy who wants her favorite sibling to aknowledge her.]] A lot of the accusations also seem to take {{fanon}} as canon: it's true that some Japan/Taiwan shippers reduce the very complicated Japanese occupation of the Taiwanese island to a RomanceNovel-like LadyAndKnight deal, but ''that is not the fault of Taiwan the character in any way'' and ''it doesn't necessarily reflect her canon interaction with Japan''. (Specially considering that, in canon, Taiwan has had ShipTease with [[LesYay Vietnam]] and [[CherylBlossom Korea]] as well, and while she looks up to Japan she doesn't seem to be a ClingyJealousGirl to him, [[NeverLiveItDown "leave Japan alone" panel aside.]])
** Even Vietnam, who has had barely any screentime at all gets this from people who dislike how some members of the fandom pair her up with America, Russia, France, and/or China and refer to her as a RelationshipSue because of {{Fanon}} portrayals. Despite the fact that, in canon, she has not had any ShipTease with anyone other than Taiwan and Thailand so far, she has gotten some accusations of being a FlatCharacter who only exists to ruin other pairings. Thankfully, this portion of the fanbase is very small in comparison with hate that the other females have gotten, as it's very easy to ignore her character entirely.
* Lithuania tends to get accusations of being a MartyStu from is disliked by fans who pair Russia or Poland (or America or Belarus...) with someone else. Not all of it is because of this; Lithuania is, after all, portrayed as a ''very'' [[TheWoobie sympathetic]] NiceGuy for a country that was once powerful, and Himaruya seemed [[CreatorsPet quite fond of him]] him in 2007-2008 (though this has improved since, with him being passive-aggressive and rude towards Prussia in a recent sketch). But a few fans have admitted to disliking him just for "getting in the way" of their ship.
8th Mar '16 12:51:12 PM Josef5678
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** America also comes off badly in some Japan/someone-other-than-him fanworks where he's depicted as being in love with Japan instead of them just being best friends, with his somewhat tactless but genuinely cheerful and friendly attitude toward Japan in canon somehow being translated into him becoming [[CrazyJealousGuy unnervingly possessive]] [[StalkerWithACrush and stalkerish]] toward, if not [[DomesticAbuser outright abusing]], Japan. About the only justification ever given for this is that America's dropping of two atomic bombs on Japan at the end of WWII ''must'' mean that he's actually a {{Yandere}} deep down, which completely ignores not only everything we've seen of them together in canon but everything ''else'' about their (currently good) real-life relations, so it can't even be passed off as "historical canon".

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** America also comes off badly in some Japan/someone-other-than-him fanworks where he's depicted as being in love with Japan instead of them just being best friends, with his somewhat tactless but genuinely cheerful and friendly attitude toward Japan in canon somehow being translated into him becoming [[CrazyJealousGuy unnervingly possessive]] [[StalkerWithACrush and stalkerish]] toward, if not [[DomesticAbuser [[DomesticAbuse outright abusing]], Japan. About the only justification ever given for this is that America's dropping of two atomic bombs on Japan at the end of WWII ''must'' mean that he's actually a {{Yandere}} deep down, which completely ignores not only everything we've seen of them together in canon but everything ''else'' about their (currently good) real-life relations, so it can't even be passed off as "historical canon".
31st Jan '16 4:40:08 AM narm00
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** Some fanworks take Denmark's canon BoisterousBruiser traits and make him an insane {{Yandere}} who drove Sweden to run away with Finland after raping and torturing him into almost insanity. Even some works that are ''ostensively'' Denmark/Sweden use this; there's a very popular doujin that represents the infamous [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_Bloodbath Stockholm Massacre]] by first making Denmark [[EyeScream severely injure Sweden's eyes]] with his axe when Sweden merely says something that ''sounds'' like he'll leave the Nordic group (which "explains" why Sweden uses glasses), and then torturing and raping him among the ruins of Stockholm right after his defeat.(Though that doujin a;so has a rather cute [[LoveRedeem reconciliation]] between the two them at the end.)

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** Some fanworks take Denmark's canon BoisterousBruiser traits and make him an insane {{Yandere}} who drove Sweden to run away with Finland after raping and torturing him into almost insanity. Even some works that are ''ostensively'' Denmark/Sweden use this; there's a very popular doujin that represents the infamous [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_Bloodbath Stockholm Massacre]] by first making Denmark [[EyeScream severely injure Sweden's eyes]] with his axe when Sweden merely says something that ''sounds'' like he'll leave the Nordic group (which "explains" why Sweden uses glasses), and then torturing and raping him among the ruins of Stockholm right after his defeat.(Though that doujin a;so also has a rather cute [[LoveRedeem [[LoveRedeems reconciliation]] between the two them at the end.)



** [[{{Shorttank}} Wy]] got pegged with this shortly after her first appearance by [[ToyShip Sealand/Latvia and Sealand/Iceland]] shippers. (The fact that she already had {{Scrappy}} status from being a LittleMissSnarker certainly didn't help her case any.) Since the Sealand/others shippers [[VocalMinority are VERY far and in between]], the major part of the fandom decided to keep Wy safe via either making her think [[DoesNotLikeMen "ew boys]], [[WomenAreWiser why are you so dumb"]] or giving her a PrecociousCrush on [[ChivalrousPervert Seborga]] instead, since he promised to hit on her [[SheIsAllgrownUp when she grows up]].

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** [[{{Shorttank}} Wy]] got pegged with this shortly after her first appearance by [[ToyShip Sealand/Latvia and Sealand/Iceland]] shippers. (The fact that she already had {{Scrappy}} status from being a LittleMissSnarker certainly didn't help her case any.) Since the Sealand/others shippers [[VocalMinority are VERY far and in between]], the major part of the fandom decided to keep Wy safe via either making her think [[DoesNotLikeMen "ew boys]], [[WomenAreWiser why are you so dumb"]] or giving her a PrecociousCrush on [[ChivalrousPervert Seborga]] instead, since he promised to hit on her [[SheIsAllgrownUp [[SheIsAllGrownUp when she grows up]].
20th Jan '16 4:26:47 AM Adept
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20th Jan '16 4:26:00 AM Adept
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** Even Liechtenstein, who's a ProperLady in canon, is once in a while treated as being an evil MarySue who stole Switzerland from Austria. (Nevermind that she and Austria are very polite and civil to each other in canon). Luckily it's not that common, but there are some UnfortunateImplications in how the hate stopped ''only'' in the {{Hetalia Bloodbath 2011}} when she seemed to [[ShipperOnDeck approve of Swiss and Austria's somewhat improved relationship.]]

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** Even Liechtenstein, who's a ProperLady in canon, is once in a while treated as being an evil MarySue who stole Switzerland from Austria. (Nevermind that she and Austria are very polite and civil to each other in canon). Luckily it's not that common, but there are some UnfortunateImplications in how the hate stopped ''only'' in the {{Hetalia Bloodbath 2011}} ''Manga/HetaliaBloodbath2011'' when she seemed to [[ShipperOnDeck approve of Swiss and Austria's somewhat improved relationship.]]
15th Dec '15 6:22:52 PM DesignatedNPC
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** This troper once found a Belgium/Austria fic. Okay, that's good. But then she found out that it had ''heavy'' Hungary bashing. Eeeep, hitting the "back" button.
31st Dec '13 12:29:15 PM LongLiveHumour
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** A more subtle yet venomous and insidious way to make France look bad in USUK fics (principally {{doujinshi}}) is to take the French Crown's historical role in TheAmericanRevolution and flanderize it by characterising France as a borderline EvilMentor to America who sleeps around in the war camps and seems to have fun by pitting a young and easy to manipulate America against his eternal enemy England under the excuse of "giving America the chance to develop into his own country", but actually just wants to make England suffer and get revenge against him. Way to twist ~historical canon~ to fit your ship preferences, people. To be fair, one of the main reasons that the French Crown got involved with the American Revolution '''was''' to get revenge on England for the Seven Years War. In canon, France is pretty self-centered and likes to cash in on other people's victories, so him being a "borderline EvilMentor" isn't that out of character. But it ''can'' (and more often than not, '''is''') taken too far, with France as spiteful and pit against a {{Purity Stu}}fied England.

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** A more subtle yet venomous and insidious way to make France look bad in USUK fics (principally {{doujinshi}}) is to take the French Crown's historical role in TheAmericanRevolution UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution and flanderize it by characterising France as a borderline EvilMentor to America who sleeps around in the war camps and seems to have fun by pitting a young and easy to manipulate America against his eternal enemy England under the excuse of "giving America the chance to develop into his own country", but actually just wants to make England suffer and get revenge against him. Way to twist ~historical canon~ to fit your ship preferences, people. To be fair, one of the main reasons that the French Crown got involved with the American Revolution '''was''' to get revenge on England for the Seven Years War. In canon, France is pretty self-centered and likes to cash in on other people's victories, so him being a "borderline EvilMentor" isn't that out of character. But it ''can'' (and more often than not, '''is''') taken too far, with France as spiteful and pit against a {{Purity Stu}}fied England.
29th Nov '13 2:48:21 PM mistermissy
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** Even Vietnam, who has had barely any screentime at all gets this from people who dislike how some members of the fandom pair her up with America, Russia, France, and/or China and refer to her as a RelationshipSue because of {{Fanon}} portrayals. Despite the fact that, in canon, she has not had any ShipTease with anyone other than Taiwan and Thailand so far, she has gotten some accusations of being a FlatCharacter who only exists to ruin other pairings. Thankfully, this portion of the fanbase is very small in comparison with hate that the other females have gotten, as it's very easy to ignore her character entirely.

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** Even Vietnam, who has had barely any screentime at all gets this from people who dislike how some members of the fandom pair her up with America, Russia, France, and/or China and refer to her as a RelationshipSue because of {{Fanon}} portrayals. Despite the fact that, in canon, she has not had any ShipTease with anyone other than Taiwan and Thailand so far, she has gotten some accusations of being a FlatCharacter who only exists to ruin other pairings. Thankfully, this portion of the fanbase is very small in comparison with hate that the other females have gotten, as it's very easy to ignore her character entirely.entirely.
* Lithuania tends to get accusations of being a MartyStu from fans who pair Russia or Poland (or America or Belarus...) with someone else. Not all of it is because of this; Lithuania is, after all, portrayed as a ''very'' [[TheWoobie sympathetic]] NiceGuy for a country that was once powerful, and Himaruya seemed [[CreatorsPet quite fond of him]] in 2007-2008 (though this has improved since, with him being passive-aggressive and rude towards Prussia in a recent sketch). But a few fans have admitted to disliking him just for "getting in the way" of their ship.
17th Jul '13 4:11:14 AM TwoGunAngel
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''Manga/AxisPowersHetalia'', despite being a show full of HoYay-fueled {{Moe Anthropomorphism}}s, has a fandom that's largely free of ShippingWars, probably because almost any pairing can be [[RealitySubtext justified]], and multishipping and ShipMates are very common. But even it isn't ''completely'' free from this trope (...okay, the list below ''is'' rather long, but that's mainly because of LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters, and most examples are still limited to VocalMinority status). In other words, even the nicest and most civil of fanbases - Hetalia shipping being on the whole wonderfully accommodating - can't eradicate the 'fanatic' in 'fandom.'

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''Manga/AxisPowersHetalia'', despite being a show full of HoYay-fueled {{Moe Anthropomorphism}}s, has a fandom that's largely free of ShippingWars, ShipToShipCombat, probably because almost any pairing can be [[RealitySubtext justified]], and multishipping and ShipMates are very common. But even it isn't ''completely'' free from this trope (...okay, the list below ''is'' rather long, but that's mainly because of LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters, and most examples are still limited to VocalMinority status). In other words, even the nicest and most civil of fanbases - Hetalia shipping being on the whole wonderfully accommodating - can't eradicate the 'fanatic' in 'fandom.'
7th Jul '13 8:31:10 AM JIKTV
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