History DethroningMoment / Webcomics

* Tropers/{{Fairfield}}: This troper has long found the work of web artist {{Bleedman}} horrifically overrated; a collection of well-illustrated but grotesquely-written fanfiction with little to no regard to the actual nature of its subject. By far the most horrific moment was in his [[SarcasmMode magum opus]], ''PowerpuffGirlsDoujinshi'', in which [[spoiler: Dexter and Mandark's feuding leads to Deedee being killed.]] My childhood is raped.

* One moment per work to a troper, if multiple entires are signed to the same troper the more recent one will be cut.

* Tropers/TropeKira: [[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/090423.jpg "Nerd Rage"]]! This comic was Video Game Historical '''FAIL!''' Does the word '''ARCADE''' mean anything to you Scott? Gaming has never been a "reclusive hobby"! "Now it's trendy to like games, we're fucking '''marketable'''". Gaming has been marketable for years! Nintendo execs piss in toilets made of gold bars and wipe their assess with thousand dollar bills! "We didn't spend '''years''' as a social outcast to watch you assholes fuck this up." Oh yes, nevermind how '''DECADES''' ago the same people who are muscling in on gaming WERE the same ones who were plunking quarters into the arcade machines and keeping gaming mainstream! Let's keep gaming in the niche market! Let's all be looked down upon for our "reclusive hobby" We certainly don't share our "reclusive hobby" with guys like [[OneOfUs Vin Diesel and Barack Obama!]] The only thing that's right about this comic is the title, since that is what it has induced in this troper!
* Tropers/{{Seed}}: For me, Nerd Rage made it painfully obvious that Scott does not know why Colbert is funny or why the ColbertReport is popular. The whole set-up of the strip was painful, with the "punchline" in the last panel being the crushing blow.
* Tropers/UltimateZ: Nerd Rage disappointed me, as I believed Scott was going to tear into that terrible "Ultimate Gamer" show (For those of you who haven't seen it, it's pretty much exactly what Scott describes), but instead he got 10 panels of preaching he's heard before, with no real funny punchline. Considering the fact that following that strip, he's made his 1,000th ''{{Pokemon}}'' joke, and I'm on the verge of giving up on ''VGCat''s.
* Tropers/{{biznizz}}: The "Nerd Rage" one nearly broke me, but the one that was it for me was this abomination: [[http://static.vgcats.com/comics/images/091004.jpg]]. Most of the fucking books are '''for WORLD BUILDING''' you moron! Because, you know, [[SarcasmMode people don't actually play games for THE STORY, but to just kill stuff with guns.]] And a meh- Yaoi fangirl!Aeris joke at the end.

* {{Tropers/Knight9910}}: [[http://xkcd.com/558/ This strip]] from xkcd. The implication here seems to be that it's perfectly reasonable to give yourself and your friends 165 million dollars of taxpayer money to buy yachts with as a reward for wrecking America's economy, and that the real reason people are mad is because they don't understand the difference between millions and billions. No, Mr. Munroe, that's actually not it at all. I get that he's arguing that "oh, it's only a small percentage, and the media is portraying it like it's the majority of the money" but he doesn't get that it doesn't matter. Wrong is wrong and when you argue it like that you make it look like you support the CEOs giving themselves bonuses like that.
** SickBritKid: Yes, because it's a MORTAL SIN for 165 million to be taken out of a 765 BILLION dollar stimulus package to be given as bonuses(which IS bad, but bear with me), but it's A-OK for the government to spend around a TRILLION dollars of taxpayer money to stimulate the economy, create jobs, and get us out of this mess...only for it to basically all be given away in earmarks and payments to various Congressmen to get their vote to begin with and what's left being used to create... 3 million temporary jobs while we lose around 4 million A MONTH...

* Baronobeefdip: For me, it was the VGCats comic ''Subtle'' in which Aeris (I belive that's her name) compares JRPGs to "decorated turds" and pretty much said they were formulatic and were pretty much the same. [[SarcasmMode Yeah, because there certainly aren't platforming games that follow the ''Super Mario Bros.'' formula or "survival horror" games similar to ''Resident Evil'' (or ''Silent Hill'') or tactical first-person shooter games similar to ''Splinter Cell'' or....]] you get the idea. In essence, the comic pretty much states that people only buy JRPGs for the "shiny things" and "fail to see the crap inside before it's too late". I'm sorry, but does ''every'' game need to have a ground-breaking plot and gameplay elements? What about {{Pokemon}}, a JRPG that has pretty much the same concept in nearly ''every'' aspect (IE: Catch, train, beat the bad guy, collect badges, become a master) and yet remains one of the most popular (Second only to '''Mario himself''') video game franchises of all time? Look, VGCats, if you don't like JRPGs, fine, that's your opinion. But, don't make the fans out to be idiots who are cluelessly buying "polished turds".

* Tropers/TropeKira: [[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/090423.jpg "Nerd Rage"]]! This comic was Video Game Historical '''FAIL!''' Does the word '''ARCADE''' mean anything to you Scott? Gaming has never a "reclusive hobby"! "Now it's trendy to like games, we're fucking '''marketable'''". Gaming has been marketable for years! Nintendo execs piss in toilets made of gold bars and wipe their assess with thousand dollar bills! "We didn't spend '''years''' as a social outcast to watch you assholes fuck this up." Oh yes, nevermind how '''DECADES''' ago the same people who are muscling in on gaming WERE the same ones who were plunking quarters into the arcade machines and keeping gaming mainstream! Let's keep gaming in the niche market! Let's all be looked down upon for our "reclusive hobby" We certainly don't share our "reclusive hobby" with guys like [[OneOfUs Vin Diesel and Barack Obama!]] The only thing that's right about this comic is the title, since that is what it has induced in this troper!

* {{Tropers/Marc3K}}: Is it allowed to say that {{Cheer}}'s premise is a DethroningMomentOfSuck for the webcomic as much as the 'Consequences' (yeah, right) arc was for ''TheWotch''? To me ''Cheer'' is just plain offensive with the statement that the JerkJocks are better [[TheUnfairSex now that they're '''female''']]. You know, men are NOT required to be jerks. In fact, they are required NOT to be jerks. And Jo even says that 'they now had no reasons to behave like jerks'. As if they did before! Also, Jo deciding that the other three should stay girls is something that ''chills'' me to the core. IT'S NOT HIS/HER DECISION TO MAKE! The Wotch story about the teacher turned into an offensive Lolicon stereotype had at least the character decide for themselves (even though that blew like a Hoover). ''Cheer'' sinks to a NEW LOW when the creator of it claims that the only TG ''victim'' was [[WhiteLikeMe Peter]]. JustNo. It's again the stereotype that ''women are better''. And back about TheWotch, what's up with FTM TGs being undone while MTF not being undone (the only one I remember being undone was Ivan)?
* {{Tropers/Knight9910}}: I was annoyed by "Nerd Rage" and "Number One" and actually agreed with "Subtlety" despite being an avid [=JRPG=] fan myself (Too long to explain here, so let's just say [[IncrediblyLamePun my mileage varied]].) but in my opinion the real worst was [[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=271 #259: The Comedian]], or more specifically it was The Comedian, before it was edited and the part where Leo [[spoiler: confessed to raping and murdering Aeris' mom]] was replaced with a lame joke about anal. (Related note: changing the original to just a series of lame jokes really just means Aeris is the one who crosses the MoralEventHorizon for murdering Leo for what amounts to...well, a series of lame jokes.) It's bad enough Scott made that one, but then he made the next strip into an insult aimed at anyone who didn't like 259, under the pretense that they were offended by the abortion thing, as opposed to them being offended by the fact that he'd suddenly changed lovable dimwit Leo into a mentally retarded sociopath with no redeeming qualities or by the fact that a quirky comic about video games was now about Leo being a mentally retarded sociopath with no redeeming qualities. That almost made me stop reading the comic altogether.

* Tropers/{{biznizz}}: The "Nerd Rage" one nearly broke me, but the one that was it for me was this abomination: http://static.vgcats.com/comics/images/091004.jpg . Most of the fucking books are '''for WORLD BUILDING''' you moron! Because, you know, [[SarcasmMode people don't actually play games for THE STORY, but to just kill stuff with guns.]] And a meh- Yaoi fangirl!Aeris joke at the end.

* Tropers/{{biznizz}}: The "Nerd Rage" one nearly broke me, but the one that was it for me was this abomination: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=290 . Most of the fucking books are '''for WORLD BUILDING''' you moron! Because, you know, [[SarcasmMode people don't actually play games for THE STORY, but to just kill stuff with guns.]] And a meh- Yaoi fangirl!Aeris joke at the end.

* Lizuka: From {{Misfile}}, the Sheldon storyline. As if having a villain named Sheldon who is supposed to be taken seriously isn't enough of a misfire, the actual arc had everyone in sight trying to get Ash to help stop a group of guys from taking over the mountain; somehow people being dumb enough to bet on such things is enough to keep somebody off of what is a public road, albeit one that is not used. The story dragged on and on and on yet had no real point and mountains of FridgeLogic - for instance, Ash suddenly deciding with no provaction whatsoever that he loves helping people and won't let Sheldon win after like a year or ranting about how stupid the whole thing was, and in the end the villain did absolutely nothing actually all that villainous until a contrived attempt at a MoralEventHorizon right before he was overcome and turned on by the people he was using; despite this, we were [[AndThatsTerrible constantly being told about how (somehow) keeping people from driving was the worst thing ever.]] It also pretty much turned the amount of racers in town from something fairly reasonable into making it a SeriousBusiness racing {{cult}} throughout the town.

* Lizuka: ''ElGoonishShive'' has the Sister II arc, particularly the period toward the end of it where the focus shifted back and forth between two characters only seen a small handful of times before that story and Ellen and Nanase; that wouldn't be so bad in itself, if not for the fact that this locked the entire rest of the main cast out of the story for ''over a year'' and serious moments have by no means ever been EGS's strongsuit. It also made it horribly clear where the author's interest lies with the cast in that the storyline was entirely about ''Elliot'' - it's just that along with his original Sister storyline and Grace's birthday party and origin story ones, Ellen and Nanase ''always'' hijack the plot; they just never did it so blatantly as with this one. The fact that the plot just ''would not die'' was the main problem - there were a million points where it looked like the focus was about to shift from them, and it just kept going and going and going...

* {{Tropers/Knight9910}}: [[http://xkcd.com/558/ This strip]] from xkcd. The implication here seems to be that it's perfectly reasonable to give yourself and your friends 165 million dollars of taxpayer money to buy yachts with as a reward for wrecking America's economy, and that the real reason people are mad is because they don't understand the difference between millions and billions. No, Mr. Munroe, that's actually not it at all.
** That's not what he was saying. The implication isn't that it's "perfectly reasonable", it's that the news is acting like the bonuses are the ''majority'' of where the bailout money is going, when it's actually a small percentage.
*** Except that it doesn't matter how much of a percentage it is, it's still wrong.

* Tropers/{{Wretchkin}}: ''GrimTalesFromDownBelow'' gives us [[http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=30 this monstrosity,]] which doubles as a MoralEventHorizon, in which [[spoiler:Mandy caused 9/11, the ensuing wars, Hurricane Katrina ''and'' the 2004 tsunami in order to get Grim back in his game.]] Yes, it wasn't meant to be offensive (it's ''not'' presented as a joke), but some things just hit too close to home. And do you know what makes it worse? The creator actively ''defended'' this. But wait! IT GETS WORSE. He had a vote amongst his fans regarding whether to keep it or not, and most decided it was fine and dandy. I have never been made to feel physically sick by any Webcomic before, but sure enough...
** {{Tropers/Knight9910}}: Wait. So after realizing people thought it was offensive he apologized, explained himself, and offered to take it down if people wanted him to...and that's it getting worse? Sorry if this seems like natter, but are you joking or are you honestly just that impossible to please?

** {{Tropers/Knight9910}}: So wait...after realizing people thought it was offensive he apologized, explained himself, and offered to take it down if people wanted him to...and that's it getting worse?

** Tropers/Knight9910: So wait...after realizing people thought it was offensive he apologized, explained himself, and offered to take it down if people wanted him to, which they didn't...and that's it getting worse?

* Tropers/SomeNewGuy: For me ''[[http://suicideforhire.comicgenesis.com Suicide For Hire]]'''s moment was the ending of the Paradise arc. I can handle {{Wangst}}, but when that Wangst causes CharacterDerailment, that's when I get mad.

*One moment to a troper, if multiple entires are signed to the same troper the more recent one will be cut.

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* Do not remove an entry from the page (unless the event in question is blatantly untrue) nor create a JustifyingEdit to defend a moment - it goes without saying YourMileageMayVary.
* Try and make entries actual [=DMOSs=], not just a protracted whinge about how bad a webcomic has become. Deconstructions of tasteless jokes don't really count.
* No RealLife examples. That is just asking for trouble.
* Remember, you're only allowed one moment per work, so either list which was the worst, or don't list anything at all.
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* Two words: [[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/090423.jpg "Nerd Rage"]]. No, Scott, not all of us are as hardcore as your elitist ass can be. I'm sorry we can't use our dick to beat ''Ninja Gaiden'' while blindfolded, and I'm sorry we don't have all the Heart Container locations in the original ''Legend of Zelda'' memorized. Would you like a medal now? Or maybe a teddy bear so you have something to cuddle when de mean widdle mainstweam doesn't make you feew speciaw?
** YES! GOD YES!!! This comic was Video Game Historical '''FAIL!''' Does the word '''ARCADE''' mean anything to you Scott? Gaming has never a "reclusive hobby"! "Now it's trendy to like games, we're fucking '''marketable'''". Gaming has been marketable for years! Nintendo execs piss in toilets made of gold bars and wipe their assess with thousand dollar bills! "We didn't spend '''years''' as a social outcast to watch you assholes fuck this up." Oh yes, nevermind how '''DECADES''' ago the same people who are muscling in on gaming WERE the same ones who were plunking quarters into the arcade machines and keeping gaming mainstream! Let's keep gaming in the niche market! Let's all be looked down upon for our "reclusive hobby" We certainly don't share our "reclusive hobby" with guys like [[OneOfUs Vin Diesel and Barack Obama!]] The only thing that's right about this comic is the title, since that is what it has induced in this troper! - Tropers/TropeKira.
** For [[Tropers/{{Seed}} me]], the strip made it painfully obvious that Scott does not know why Colbert is funny or why the ColbertReport is popular. The whole set-up of the strip was painful, with the "punchline" in the last panel being the crushing blow.
** The aforementioned strip disappointed [[Tropers/UltimateZ me]], as I believed Scott was going to tear into that terrible "Ultimate Gamer" show (For those of you who haven't seen it, it's pretty much exactly what Scott describes), but instead he got 10 panels of preaching he's heard before, with no real funny punchline. Considering the fact that following that strip, he's made his 1,000th ''{{Pokemon}}'' joke, and I'm on the verge of giving up on ''VGCat''s.
** Reading this strip and considering this opinion amongst 'gamers' as a whole, I am left wondering; have I been absent for the beginning of this still very young millennium? Because, I was under the impression that it would perhaps be a -good- thing for nerds if they and society could reach equal footing. Perhaps, contrary to popular belief, being [[TheLordOfTheRings Gollum]]-like primitive cave creatures that fear the warm caress of day is, in fact, not an accomplishment.
**I thought he wasn't serious
* This strip in ''VG Cats'' pretty much made this troper give up on it: [[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/050328.jpg]]. Yeah, because that's what we want to see in a webcomic ABOUT VIDEO GAMES, [[SarcasmMode oh so hilarious toiler humour. Scott really understand its audience..]]
* The "Nerd Rage" one nearly broke [[Tropers/{{biznizz}} me]], but the one that was it for me was this abomination: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=290 . Most of the fucking books are '''for WORLD BUILDING''' you moron! Because, you know, [[SarcasmMode people don't actually play games for THE STORY, but to just kill stuff with guns.]] And a meh- Yaoi fangirl!Aeris joke at the end.
* For me, it was this comic. More specificially, [[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=295 this one]]. Good gods, where do I start? Ok, the "polish a turd it's still a turd" thing is bad enough. But, seriously, bashing [=JRPGs=] because they're formulaic? I mean, you could say the same thing about ANY video game genre. Just look at platformers, first-person shooters, real time stragety, MMORPGS, and the like and you'll notice its a case of the proverbial "lather, rinse, repeat". But, nope, ''VGCats'' will want to let you know that other genres of games are just fine and that JRPGs are polished turds with a fanbase too stupid to realize they're playing with crap? [[FlatWhat What?]]
** Even better/worse? The character doing the ranting is ''named after a character from a JRPG''.
*** As an avid JRPG fan, I can say with all seriousness that Scott was talking out his ass on this one. First of all, SturgeonsLaw, most of the everything sucks. However, there are still many original and engaging [=JRPGs=] out there that are NOT crap! Secondly, where does he get off saying they all suck when he obviously is a fan. This is Nerd Rage all over again.
*** Seems like it's supposed to be a TakeThat at Nerd Rage, but it doesn't make it any less painful.
*** For [[BishopRodan this troper]], while Scott talking out of his anus is bad enough, what really made this strip a DMoS for him, was simply put, that it wasn't funny. It just seemed like a protracted whinge about something he didn't like, without even an attempt to make it into a joke. It was just... ''boring''.
* [[{{Tropers/Knight9910}} This Troper]] was annoyed by "Nerd Rage" and "Number One" and actually agreed with "Subtlety" despite being an avid [=JRPG=] fan myself (Too long to explain here, so let's just say [[IncrediblyLamePun my mileage varied]].) but in my opinion the real worst was [[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=271 #259: The Comedian]], or more specifically it was The Comedian, before it was edited and the part where Leo [[spoiler: confessed to raping and murdering Aeris' mom]] was replaced with a lame joke about anal. (Related note: changing the original to just a series of lame jokes really just means Aeris is the one who crosses the MoralEventHorizon for murdering Leo for what amounts to...well, a series of lame jokes.) It's bad enough Scott made that one, but then he made the next strip into an insult aimed at anyone who didn't like 259, under the pretense that they were offended by the abortion thing, as opposed to them being offended by the fact that he'd suddenly changed lovable dimwit Leo into a mentally retarded sociopath with no redeeming qualities or by the fact that a quirky comic about video games was now about Leo being a mentally retarded sociopath with no redeeming qualities. That almost made me stop reading the comic altogether.

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* ''CtrlAltDel's'' miscarriage plotline. Taking a comedic comic that largely centers around the wacky antics of a bunch of people, and interject a huge chunk of overblown drama, while not really having the talent to pull off it off in the first place, followed up by a severe case of MoodWhiplash with a return to the comedic sociopathy strips. --(Explanation by Tropers/{{Peteman}})
* For [[Tropers/SomeNewGuy me]], ''[[http://suicideforhire.comicgenesis.com Suicide For Hire]]'''s moment was the ending of the Paradise arc. I can handle {{Wangst}}, but when that Wangst causes CharacterDerailment, that's when I get mad.
* ''GrimTalesFromDownBelow'' gives us [[http://grim.snafu-comics.com/index.php?comic_id=30 this monstrosity,]] which doubles as a MoralEventHorizon, in which [[spoiler:Mandy caused 9/11, the ensuing wars, Hurricane Katrina ''and'' the 2004 tsunami in order to get Grim back in his game.]] Yes, it wasn't meant to be offensive (it's ''not'' presented as a joke), but some things just hit too close to home. And do you know what makes it worse? The creator actively ''defended'' this. But wait! IT GETS WORSE. He had a vote amongst his fans regarding whether to keep it or not, and most decided it was fine and dandy. [[Tropers/{{Wretchkin}} I]] have never been made to feel physically sick by any Webcomic before, but sure enough...

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* For the past eight years, ''SchlockMercenary'' has had a Schlocktoberfest of creepy, Halloween-inspired horror, or else tense drama...always exciting and tension-filled. In 2008, we get treated to a {{Filler}} arc about Tagon bummed because he's getting old. Way. To. Fail.
* ''ElGoonishShive'': It is revealed that Elliot has been temporarily BlessedWithSuck - magical powers in exchange for being forced to transform multiple times per day. Ellen laughs when she hears about this. That isn't the dethroning moment, however. Once Ellen laughed, debates started raging on the forum as to whether Ellen was totally in the right, a bit of a jerk, or a complete bitch who needs to shut the fuck up and be grateful to her kind, supporting brother. After Ellen actually realised how bad Elliot's situation was, she apologised - and Elliot said he wanted her to tease him because it made the situation feel more normal. Absolutely no hint of this was given before the comic, and Dan hadn't seen fit to mention it in any of the arguments. Nice AssPull there, Danno.
** For me, the point of no return is the Nanase / Ellen / Abraham storyline. It's one thing to have Nanase temporarily give up her magic to save Ellen from a threat. It's another to shunt out the entire rest of the cast for ''a fucking year'' (and without much ScheduleSlip at that), while having senseless, ill-defined melodrama about the two of them's relationship and a couple of characters in Abraham and Raven who we've barely seen and have no reason to identify with. Oh, and tossing aside Chaos's fun, childlike villainy character to have her decide she wants to destroy the world. And she's Raven's mother. The worst part, though, is how huge an indicator the storyline is of EGS's main problem. Forget all of the interesting characters; forget Elliot, Tedd, Sarah, Justin, Susan, Catalina, and Grace, this is the Lesbian Melodrama Show and it always has been. Oh, and that whole thing about Nanase giving up her powers? That involved lifting Abraham - who hadn't actually ''done'' anything yet besides get his ass kicked by Raven - and then staring at him until he gave up. To come to the defense of Ellen, who after the beating Abraham had just received should've been a-okay to handle herself given her apparently forgotten powers. Oh, right, if it's not turning into a fairy doll or turning someone into a woman, Dan isn't letting you use your powers.
** I can completely agree with this one. Prior to this storyline, Nanase and Ellen were just two characters who got a bit more attention then some of the others in the main 8 (Justin and Sarah in particular). Before Abraham showed up, there was a fun, interesting storyling going on in the other High School with Susan having an interesting struggle against the establishment and Tedd having his CrowningMomentOfAwesome. Then Ellen and Nanase have their first quarrel and everything else got derailed. The other characters fell off the face of the Earth, and Ellen and Nanase were propelled, as if by rocket, from being "Oh, Dan gives them more attention because they're HotLesbians" to total, remorseless SpotlightStealingSquad. I for one spent the entire storyling wondering when they were going to cut back to Elliot and the rest of the group, maybe having them band together to find Abraham, but it just kept going and going with these two. If it weren't for the Newspaper comics, I'd have assumed Dan had forgotten Tedd and Grace existed. Before I simply thought Ellen and Nanase were bland, now I really can't stand them. It's been more then a year since we've seen anyone from the Main 8 besides these two. When are they getting back to the other characters? To be fair though, I really loved the Raven/Abraham fight. Raven has easily become the coolest thing about this whole affair.
* Ah, ''{{Megatokyo}}''. Largo, a goofy, chaotic, frequently [[ObfuscatingStupidity brilliant]], gloriously angst-free character and the sole brake on the main character's habit of endless mopey introspection: in January 2005, he sits down to have a wistful heart-to heart about ''feelings''. I never looked back.
** Not to mention how every character started having major personal problems in one way or another. [[spoiler:When Largo suddenly got seriously drunk, and seemed to have [[HeroicBSOD lost it]] after an encounter with another girl]], the web comic pretty much reached its point of no return. I picked up the series for its HUMOR, not its DRAMA (and not even a good one at that). There's already more than enough manga that focuses on a story about relationship-building and people facing personal life problems. And considering that Piro is supposed to [[AuthorStandIn more or less reflect]] [[TrueArtIsForeign Fred Gallagher...]] [=*=]shudders[=*=]. Four volumes, dropped it, and never looked back again.
* The infamous ''{{DominicDeegan}}'' Orc-Rape storyline. If you're somehow unfamiliar with it, the gist is that [[{{Anvilicious}} situations in the extremely sexist orc culture]] conspire to force a teenage Stonewater to rape a 14 year old Melna to save her life (he had to "take" her as his bride or they would kill her, as she was orphaned). The ensuing storyline... well, the most charitable thing anyone has ever said about it was "Well, at least The Author had the guts to try it."
** Later on, probably meant to mollify this, Melna states that the culture and laws were meant for consenting adults; the reason things happened to her the way they did is because the Doma chief was a douchebag.
*** Which makes the Doma co-conspirators in upholding the rape and humiliation of one of their own, and Stonewater and his father idiots for not knowing what was being perverted (maybe not Stonewater so much, since he was a young man, but wasn't his father a chief or something?)
*** Well, it's explained that the Doma chief basically had home-field advantage, and the visiting Alheera chief had to adhere to their laws. As for the rest of the Doma, well, he was still the ''chief'', and therefore what he said was what happened; and while the laws were intended for consenting adults, they might have been ambiguous enough (i.e., not specifying ages) that he was [[RulesLawyer technically]] correct in enforcing them.
** The main storyline and characters took a backseat to follow Gregory around while he starts up, wait for it... A metal band. It seemes very much like an excuse for Mookie to gush endlessly about how he loves the genre, and any of the characters that object to or dislike the music are presented as petty whiners. The one character who actually made a valid statement about why she didn't like it was shown to be secretly enjoying it. Aside from being somewhat annoying, it's also incredibly boring.

** Rory turning out to be exactly the kind of person Ethan made him out to be. It would have been nice to see, for a twist, Ethan being wrong about his brother, or at least show he had development since their childhood, but no. He has to have him being completely right about his brother just so he can show what a great guy Ethan is so we can be distracted from the fact that [[http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20030318 Ethan has actually shot people with a bolt gun]] and screwed his friends.
* ''[[http://suicideforhire.comicgenesis.com Suicide For Hire]]'' just stepped into this territory with a Spousal Abuse arc that in and of itself dragged on, but combined with ScheduleSlip it took OVER A YEAR just to get through her story (which was easily filled with far more {{Narm}} and NightmareFuel compared to the other tales because of this client's relative innocence) And the sad part is that when the client's story gets to the present day, that means we're only halfway through this plot...
* The "Oceans Unmoving" arc of ''SluggyFreelance''. A tedious yawnfest with a character who'd worn out his welcome quite some time before.
** For [[Tropers/SomeNewGuy me]], it was the ending of the Paradise arc. I can handle {{Wangst}}, but when that Wangst causes CharacterDerailment, that's when I get mad.
** This troper gave up in despair when the comic became a one-note song and that note was [[SpotlightStealingSquad "ka-click"]].
* Artist and [[FurryFandom furry enthusiast]] JayNaylor's got a few:
** While there's several storylines in ''BetterDays'' that were considered horrible, they paled in comparison to the storyline in Chapter 21 ("Father's Footsteps"). Fisk learns that his father didn't die in Vietnam, but was instead killed in action as part of a covert group of assassins, many of whom are former government agents, that act outside the purview of the government; essentially, they're American terrorists. And when Fisk learns the truth AND is offered a spot in this group, he takes the spot without hesitation and without so much as any sort of acknowledgement about what he's become and how his father really died. This chapter was so bad that it led many of Naylor's critics to get a lot more vocal about how bad they consider his work to be.
*** What makes this worse is that one would think he would show some of Fisk's "work" after joining the group. However, the closest we get is the chapter "Persia"; Naylor not only decided against showing Fisk at "work" for the rest of ''Better Days'', but his line of work has not once been brought up in ''Original Life'' and is pretty much an afterthought. (Granted, this is likely done to distance himself from the UnfortunateImplications of Fisk's "work", but still.)
** ''OriginalLife'' (the successor to ''BetterDays'') has a strip that could be considered a Dethroning Moment, and it's early on in its existence: [[http://www.jaynaylor.com/originallife/comic/OL020.09-08-07.jpg Strip #20.]]
*** There's also [[http://www.jaynaylor.com/originallife/comic/OL064.10-01-08.jpg Strip #64]], in which Elizabeth completes her transformation from a likeable character into an unlikeable one by proving how much of a child-hating jerk she's become since marrying Fisk and having kids of her own.
** The moral of Strip #82? [[http://www.jaynaylor.com/originallife/comic/OL082.10-03-12.jpg "Don't trust women with big tits; they're just a bunch of ignorant freeloaders."]] Naylor's misogynistic tendencies have slipped through in both ''Better Days'' and ''Original Life'' before, but never has it been so blatant and outspoken than it is in that strip. Some have surmised that this is even a potshot at some of his old girlfriends.
* ''[[LoveHina Love Hina's]]'' furry webcomic equivalent ''LasLindas'' has had too many of these to list over the past two years. This troper believes the entirety of page 218 deserves mentioning in this article, as it is a perfect example of how far downhill the writing would later end up going. Not only does the page attempt to suddenly portray resident arrogant lecher Miles as a JerkWithAHeartOfGold while leaving out the "heart of gold" part, it also features Sarah acting VERY out of character in order to push a dysfunctional, evidence-lacking, out-of-nowhere Takahashi relationship involving Miles and Rachael, a girl who very strongly and quite openly despises Miles and any man like him. While Miles' fans viewed this as a great example of character development accompanied by a wonderful idea for a pairing, most others, especially those outside the comic's official forum, simply saw it as a moment of pointless ego-stroking--Miles is an evolution of the writer's fursona--containing a blatant and somewhat desperate attempt to advertise a terrible pairing idea. It also didn't help that on the very next page, Miles follows up a sappy Nice Guy inner monologue with more of his typical perverted behaviour, this time hinting at plans to manipulate Rachael during her time of emotional weakness into falling for him.
** The Big Three's decision to give several interesting, well-written, and even touching and emotional expository bonus comics the axe while the aforementioned JerkAss Miles gets to keep his (despite the ending being perfectly clear to anyone with a functioning brain), and "Breasts Are the Best" - based solely around excessive fanservice - [[SexSells keeps going strong]], despite having absolutely no direction anymore and resorting to such pandering tactics as clothing that dissolves when hit by water and an oiled-up naked guy turning a lesbian straight. Thank you, Big Three, you've helped fuel the negative stereotypical view of furries without even trying.
*** There's also lesbian character Tootsie's sexual orientation recently being [[{{Retcon}} retconned]]. Now the audience is supposed to believe she's straight. All the lesbian affection she's shown for Alejandra? Yeah, apparently she was simply wishing her boss was a man this whole time. [[SarcasmMode That explains perfectly why she loves huge cow boobs so much, right?]]
** The part where Miles acted like a douchebag to TeamMom Taffy during the Festival Arc, then dumped her, did the webcomic in for me (That was before said RumikoTakashi-esque pairing thing. [=*=]shakes fist angrily[=*=] After that, I had absolutely no sympathy for him. (read: I wished for him to die, [[FanHater even if to just spite his obnoxious fans.]])
*** Miles had become so obonoxious during the FestivalArc that even [[=SoulKat=]] wanted him to get punched (and [[{{CrowningMomentOfAwesome}} thankfully Minos delivered.]]). ''Miles is [[=SK=]]'s avatar.''

* OrderOfTheStick: Celia suddenly going from "sassy lawyer babe who twists the rules to get her friends off the hook" to "retarded goody-two-shoes". What, was having her be as smart she she was when she first showed up just not interesting enough, or did we need yet ''another'' chick in that arc who can't go five minutes without talking about fashion and generally getting Haley in trouble by being an inconceivable moron?
** The circumstances of Varsuuvius's {{Moral Event Horizon}} / {{Shoot the Dog}} {{Idiot Plot}}. Blatant {{Genocide Dilemmia}} {{Railroading}} aside, the fact is that the webcomic wildly swings from {{What Measure Is a Non-Human}} and {{Always Chaotic Evil}} without blinking, usually for humorous effect. Seriously, Roy and friends chew through the {{Punch Clock Villain}}s without a second thought--the people up in Heaven don't even give a care. Or further down the villainy scale, Redcloak is painted as a {{Well Intentioned Extremist}} but hasn't crossed the MEH either despite having a larger body count. Or how Belkar's {{Heroic Sociopath}}y is treated in mostly a humorous light despite doing just as bad things. But now we're suddenly supposed to believe that Varsuuvius committed some sort of unforgivable crime even though characters in this strip routinely off {{Mooks}} to accomplish goals? Give me a fucking break, Burlew. This is exactly why you don't straddle the fence on issues of morality.
*** this arc is this troper's most hated moment too but mostly because it completely derails Varsuuvius as any kind of likeable character. Before this arc when he made a joke about fireballs solving problems and casting Explosive Runes then it was funny. Now it makes me question whether he's more evil than fricking Belkar!
* ''EightBitTheatre'': the Comic Heard 'Round the World. The Light Warriors and Dark Warriors were about to square off when [[http://www.nuklearpower.com/2008/12/11/episode-1070-what-were-you-expecting/ the game was called due to sleepy time]], with the implication being that the entire comic was AllJustADream, complete with great big "The End!" final panel. To make it about ten times worse, all the front page news posts for that day had to say was, "Well, that's that". And on top of that, he skipped the next scheduled update. And on top of ''that'', the title of the next comic was "Hook, Line, Sinker". The fandom was [[InternetBackdraft in an uproar]] the likes of which we've never seen before. Half the [[SmartMark fans]] called the quote-unquote ending a triumphant, bold stroke and a fitting way to end the series. The other half had even measures of disbelief, astonishment, and virulent rage. As much as I'd like to meet Clevinger in person, I'd be kind of afraid to after seeing that this is the kind of thing that lets him giggle himself to sleep at night.
* PennyAndAggie becoming Best Friends Forever. Their endless hate for each other is what made the comics ''funny'' and fueled most of the conflict in the plot. And sure, the entire point of the comic was to lead up to the moment where Penny and Aggie realize they're NotSoDifferent and stop hating each other; fair enough. The thing is, they're still two completely different people, and both of them being friends feels so forced and sappy. In fact, the two cliques becoming BFF and creating their rules for a better high school feels even ''more'' forced and sappy, and has sucked almost all the conflict out of the comic. It feels like the entire strip should have ''ended'' at the conclusion of the Popsicle War, and yet it keeps going.
** What ''really'' dethroned it for this troper is the way that since then they seem to have been setting the foundations for a Penny/Aggie ship in an incredibly heavy-handed fashion. [[http://www.pennyandaggie.com/comics/pna2009124.png Aggie's]] ComingOutStory was appallingly clunky and angsty - not least for Aggie's angst-induced unpleasantness to Lisa's level-headed worldview, but her moment of realisation came with all the worst possible, least concrete reasons for realising one's sexuality - you had a crush on the same guy as a girl who turned out to be gay? You had a nominally gay dream that wasn't even with an actual woman? Please. Considering how well Sara's storyline was handled, this was a major disappointment.
** The massive shift in the strip from a SliceOfLife-esque teen strip with some tiny hints of HoYay and one major gay character, into what is basically a CastFullOfGay. Sara's coming out was handled very well, and made her one of the strip's best characters overnight. But Aggie's? With half a dozen other characters going all gay at the same time? Now something like 50% of the main cast is homosexual, which is mostly out of nowhere, and what's worst- it seems like it was done solely to please the fanbase, with it's vocal minority of gay readers.
* ''{{Misfile}}'' has had its share of dumb moments, mostly during the Aiden storyline, but the present tale of a group of drivers trying to keep people off of the main road they drive on has got to be the king. First we have a group of drivers keeping people off of a public (albeit not in use) road - somehow. Presumably they intend to attempt vehicular homicide on sight, who knows. From there we have Ash win a [[CurbStombBattle Curb Stomp Race]] that's supposed to be for the road only to be told afterward he has to race someone else entirely and that was just practice or something. Cue Ash constantly complaining about having to defend the road (despite the fact that he honestly ''doesn't'' have to, despite what everyone else seems to tell him when he brings it up) and, probably worst of all, [[HeelFaceTurn Kate]] ShillingTheWesley by telling Ash how, as evil as she was back in the day, she would ''never'' try and keep someone from driving... despite the fact she basically attempted vehicular homicide on a regular basis and was nowhere near as civil about setting things up as the group Ash is dealing with.
** ItGotWorse. First Ash's rather justified hatred for being dragged into the situation suddenly vanished in favor of him, while in his car, screaming about how it is his road and he loves helping people and blah blah blah. Now Sheldon's attempting to claim Ash cheated to beat him after having smashed up his car with a rock, which carries quite a few stupid elements, such as everyone instinctively believing someone who's already openly cheated once (with the sub-in driver) and no one bothering to check to see if Ash's car has any damage too.
*** ItGotBetter. Rumisiel got it all on tape.
* ''PennyArcade'': ''Lookouts''. The first ''Lookouts'' wasn't that bad, but the recent followup is the DMOS. Albeit, the strip being hijacked for something completely different is nothing new. (Cardboard Tube Samurai, Twisp and Catsby, etc. are all examples.) But ''Lookouts'' only seems to be entertaining if you've got some sort of paternal instinct. Sure, Jerry and Mike are real-life fathers now, and the strip has always been part: "Jerry and Mike's Illustrated Blog (with occasional talk about video games)," but the ''Lookouts'' strips aren't charming, cute, nor are they parodying or satirizing anything, they're just boring and uninteresting. "It's like the boy scouts, but FANTASY!" Maybe this troper is in the minority, because apparently this serial scored well on a popularity poll against two other ideas, but I'd be very happy if we never got another ''Lookouts'' story ever again. (And some more ''Automata'' would be nice.)
** This troper wasn't a fan of the Lookouts arc either, but had to admit that the art [[SoCoolItsAwesome was some of the best Gabe has ever done.]]
** Also, the "plotline" were Tycho kills his wife using a Splinter Cell move on her was a bit tasteless (although the premise was interesting) and the resolution not funny. Tycho himself admitted in a blogpost attached to the comic that they were kinda lost when doing that.
* ''LeastICouldDo'': the trip to China and BP scandal arcs were way too long and very unnecessary. The trip to China especially, not featuring any meaningful moment at all, nada.
* ''ElfOnlyInn'': For this troper, the dethroning moment of suck was after the artist had a breakdown in August 2004 citing annoying fans making the comic process not fun for him, when he came back in September 2006 and responded to the apologies by screaming that the apologizing fans were wangsty egomaniacs and should never talk to him or read his comic again lest we ruin his good mood. Many fans, myself included, proceeded to do just that.
* ''xkcd'' Where do I begin? [[http://xkcd.com/558/ Oh, right, here.]] The average person is in fact actually quite capable of understanding the difference between millions and billions you egotistical ass. What makes people so offended is that 165 million is still a disgustingly large amount of money to give as a reward for essentially screwing up the entire economy and ruining numerous lives.