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1st Jan '16 8:56:30 AM Midna
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* {{@/Geoduck}}: Never thought I'd be saying this, but ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' managed to at least edge into this territory with Agatha's adventures in Paris; when she got kidnapped, ''again'', right out from under the noses of a Smoke Knight, a Jager, a master spy and a warrior princess, by some third-rate never-before-seen Spark, meaning we're off on yet another plot diversion, the groaning and eye-rolling among the fandom was pretty widely spread.
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* {{@/Geoduck}}: Never thought I'd be saying this, but ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' managed to at least edge into this territory with Agatha's adventures in Paris; when she got kidnapped, ''again'', again, right out from under the noses of a Smoke Knight, a Jager, a master spy and a warrior princess, by some third-rate never-before-seen Spark, meaning we're off on yet another plot diversion, the groaning and eye-rolling among the fandom was pretty widely spread.

* Tropers/{{Freezer}} The arc in ''Webcomic/QuentynQuinnSpaceRanger'', where an assassination attempt segues into a MyGreatestFailure flashback (Quentyn gives advanced replicator tech to a pre-FTL society, one of the local powers uses said tech to commit an atrocity, the rest of the world nukes said powers into oblivion in retaliation)... Which devolves into an {{anvilicious}} potshot at Muslims: the world powers that performed the ColonyDrop were described as "moon-worshiping savages", in barely disguised Iraqi garb and shown in front of an even-less altered Star and Crescent banner. But they were space bugs. [[SarcasmMode So it's okay.]] Which was ''then'' followed up by a clumsy attempt to justify Quentyn's actions as the lesser of several evils: Quentyn's fomenting civil war was the scenario determined to have the smallest amount of destruction. [[SarcasmMode So it's okay]].
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* Tropers/{{Freezer}} The arc in ''Webcomic/QuentynQuinnSpaceRanger'', where an assassination attempt segues into a MyGreatestFailure flashback (Quentyn gives advanced replicator tech to a pre-FTL society, one of the local powers uses said tech to commit an atrocity, the rest of the world nukes said powers into oblivion in retaliation)... Which devolves into an {{anvilicious}} potshot at Muslims: the world powers that performed the ColonyDrop were described as "moon-worshiping savages", in barely disguised Iraqi garb and shown in front of an even-less altered Star and Crescent banner. But they were space bugs. [[SarcasmMode So it's okay.]] Which was ''then'' then followed up by a clumsy attempt to justify Quentyn's actions as the lesser of several evils: Quentyn's fomenting civil war was the scenario determined to have the smallest amount of destruction. [[SarcasmMode So it's okay]].
28th Dec '15 11:45:59 AM Baeraad555
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* Tropers/{{Freezer}} The arc in ''Webcomic/QuentynQuinnSpaceRanger'', where an assassination attempt segues into a MyGreatestFailure flashback (Quentyn gives advanced replicator tech to a pre-FTL society, one of the local powers uses said tech to commit an atrocity, the rest of the world nukes said powers into oblivion in retaliation)... Which devolves into an {{anvilicious}} potshot at Muslims: the world powers that performed the ColonyDrop were described as "moon-worshiping savages", in barely disguised Iraqi garb and shown in front of an even-less altered Star and Crescent banner. But they were space bugs. [[SarcasmMode So it's okay.]] Which was ''then'' followed up by a clumsy attempt to justify Quentyn's actions as the lesser of several evils: Quentyn's fomenting civil war was the scenario determined to have the smallest amount of destruction. [[SarcasmMode So it's okay]].
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* Tropers/{{Freezer}} The arc in ''Webcomic/QuentynQuinnSpaceRanger'', where an assassination attempt segues into a MyGreatestFailure flashback (Quentyn gives advanced replicator tech to a pre-FTL society, one of the local powers uses said tech to commit an atrocity, the rest of the world nukes said powers into oblivion in retaliation)... Which devolves into an {{anvilicious}} potshot at Muslims: the world powers that performed the ColonyDrop were described as "moon-worshiping savages", in barely disguised Iraqi garb and shown in front of an even-less altered Star and Crescent banner. But they were space bugs. [[SarcasmMode So it's okay.]] Which was ''then'' followed up by a clumsy attempt to justify Quentyn's actions as the lesser of several evils: Quentyn's fomenting civil war was the scenario determined to have the smallest amount of destruction. [[SarcasmMode So it's okay]].okay]]. * Tropers/{{Baeraad555}}: ''Webcomic/DumbingOfAge'' had been getting more heavyhanded for a while, but it finally went off the rails when Becky's father [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope suddenly went]] from being an over-religious homophobe to being a [[AxeCrazy psychotical fanatic]] who [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/deceptress/ kidnapped Becky at gunpoint.]] And then, just in case the reader had any doubt that fundamentalists are inherently evil, Joyce's mother took his side. Let me repeat that: a mother sided with the lunatic who aimed a gun at her child, just because it was a Christian lunatic. It's one thing to call fundamentalist beliefs wrong to the point of being harmful. But it's another to deny fundamentalists, as a group, even the most basic of positive human emotions. And it's especially disappointing, because earlier in the comic fundamentalists really were portrayed as being wrong, but also being human, capable of friendship and compassion and parental love even if their faith often made those things more complicated.
27th Dec '15 3:13:25 PM Freezer
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* Tropers/{{Freezer}} The arc in ''Webcomic/QuentynQuinnSpaceRanger'', where an assassination attempt segues into a MyGreatestFailure flashback (Quentyn gives advanced replicator tech to a pre-FTL society, one of the local powers uses said tech to commit an atrocity, the rest of the world nukes said powers into oblivion in retaliation)... Which devolves into an {{anvilicious}} potshot at Muslims. Which was ''then'' followed up by a clumsy attempt to justify Quentyn's actions as the lesser of several evils.
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* Tropers/{{Freezer}} The arc in ''Webcomic/QuentynQuinnSpaceRanger'', where an assassination attempt segues into a MyGreatestFailure flashback (Quentyn gives advanced replicator tech to a pre-FTL society, one of the local powers uses said tech to commit an atrocity, the rest of the world nukes said powers into oblivion in retaliation)... Which devolves into an {{anvilicious}} potshot at Muslims. Muslims: the world powers that performed the ColonyDrop were described as "moon-worshiping savages", in barely disguised Iraqi garb and shown in front of an even-less altered Star and Crescent banner. But they were space bugs. [[SarcasmMode So it's okay.]] Which was ''then'' followed up by a clumsy attempt to justify Quentyn's actions as the lesser of several evils.evils: Quentyn's fomenting civil war was the scenario determined to have the smallest amount of destruction. [[SarcasmMode So it's okay]].
27th Dec '15 3:01:42 PM Freezer
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* Tropers/BlueGuy: While ''Webcomic/SquareRootOfMinusGarfield'' has a tendency to suffer from SturgeonsLaw, it usually has enough good edits to keep me interested. However, [[http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=2395 "Nostalgiafield"]] reached a new low. The entire comic is little more than an AuthorTract about [[NewMediaAreEvil why new technology sucks]] and [[NostalgiaFilter "the good old days with no DVDs, vinyl and cassette, and quality programming."]] By definition he seems preoccupied with the past ([=VHSes=] and all the other old formats he references all died out because of [[TechnologyMarchesOn innovation]], and denying that seems outright delusional), to [[Franchise/HomestarRunner Strong Bad]] levels (and with him it was obviously PlayedForLaughs). Besides, there are many "quality programs" on today, which only makes the fallacious argument even more blatant. To add insult to injury, the editing is terrible (the second and third panels are obviously copy-pasted, and the image is compressed pretty badly). Now, this tends to be a recurring problem with the comic, but here the ridiculously illogical subject matter made the whole affair cringeworthy. (The cherry on top is TheRant, where the author mentions his "strange thing with Garfield crying", [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial then immediately denies that it's a fetish.]] It just makes the author seem even more pathetic.)
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* Tropers/BlueGuy: While ''Webcomic/SquareRootOfMinusGarfield'' has a tendency to suffer from SturgeonsLaw, it usually has enough good edits to keep me interested. However, [[http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=2395 "Nostalgiafield"]] reached a new low. The entire comic is little more than an AuthorTract about [[NewMediaAreEvil why new technology sucks]] and [[NostalgiaFilter "the good old days with no DVDs, vinyl and cassette, and quality programming."]] By definition he seems preoccupied with the past ([=VHSes=] and all the other old formats he references all died out because of [[TechnologyMarchesOn innovation]], and denying that seems outright delusional), to [[Franchise/HomestarRunner Strong Bad]] levels (and with him it was obviously PlayedForLaughs). Besides, there are many "quality programs" on today, which only makes the fallacious argument even more blatant. To add insult to injury, the editing is terrible (the second and third panels are obviously copy-pasted, and the image is compressed pretty badly). Now, this tends to be a recurring problem with the comic, but here the ridiculously illogical subject matter made the whole affair cringeworthy. (The cherry on top is TheRant, where the author mentions his "strange thing with Garfield crying", [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial then immediately denies that it's a fetish.]] It just makes the author seem even more pathetic.)) * Tropers/{{Freezer}} The arc in ''Webcomic/QuentynQuinnSpaceRanger'', where an assassination attempt segues into a MyGreatestFailure flashback (Quentyn gives advanced replicator tech to a pre-FTL society, one of the local powers uses said tech to commit an atrocity, the rest of the world nukes said powers into oblivion in retaliation)... Which devolves into an {{anvilicious}} potshot at Muslims. Which was ''then'' followed up by a clumsy attempt to justify Quentyn's actions as the lesser of several evils.
18th Dec '15 3:35:42 PM BlueGuy
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* Tropers/BlueGuy: While ''Webcomic/SquareRootOfMinusGarfield'' has a tendency to suffer from SturgeonsLaw, it usually has enough good edits to keep me interested. However, [[http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=2395 "Nostalgiafield"]] reached a new low. The entire comic is little more than an AuthorTract about [[NewMediaAreEvil why new technology sucks]] and [[NostalgiaFilter "the good old days with no DVDs, vinyl and cassette, and quality programming."]] By definition he seems preoccupied with the past (VHSes and all the other old formats he references all died out because of [[TechnologyMarchesOn innovation]], to [[Franchise/HomestarRunner Strong Bad]] levels (and with him it was obviously PlayedForLaughs). Besides, there are many "quality programs" on today, which only makes the fallacious argument even more blatant. To add insult to injury, the editing is terrible (the second and third panels are obviously copy-pasted, and the image is compressed pretty badly). Now, this tends to be a recurring problem with the comic, but here the ridiculously illogical subject matter made the whole affair cringeworthy. (The cherry on top is TheRant, where the author mentions his "strange thing with Garfield crying", [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial then immediately denies that it's a fetish.]] It just makes the author seem even more pathetic.
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* Tropers/BlueGuy: While ''Webcomic/SquareRootOfMinusGarfield'' has a tendency to suffer from SturgeonsLaw, it usually has enough good edits to keep me interested. However, [[http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=2395 "Nostalgiafield"]] reached a new low. The entire comic is little more than an AuthorTract about [[NewMediaAreEvil why new technology sucks]] and [[NostalgiaFilter "the good old days with no DVDs, vinyl and cassette, and quality programming."]] By definition he seems preoccupied with the past (VHSes ([=VHSes=] and all the other old formats he references all died out because of [[TechnologyMarchesOn innovation]], and denying that seems outright delusional), to [[Franchise/HomestarRunner Strong Bad]] levels (and with him it was obviously PlayedForLaughs). Besides, there are many "quality programs" on today, which only makes the fallacious argument even more blatant. To add insult to injury, the editing is terrible (the second and third panels are obviously copy-pasted, and the image is compressed pretty badly). Now, this tends to be a recurring problem with the comic, but here the ridiculously illogical subject matter made the whole affair cringeworthy. (The cherry on top is TheRant, where the author mentions his "strange thing with Garfield crying", [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial then immediately denies that it's a fetish.]] It just makes the author seem even more pathetic.)
18th Dec '15 3:35:00 PM BlueGuy
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* {{@/Geoduck}}: Never thought I'd be saying this, but ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' managed to at least edge into this territory with Agatha's adventures in Paris; when she got kidnapped, ''again'', right out from under the noses of a Smoke Knight, a Jager, a master spy and a warrior princess, by some third-rate never-before-seen Spark, meaning we're off on yet another plot diversion, the groaning and eye-rolling among the fandom was pretty widely spread.
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* {{@/Geoduck}}: Never thought I'd be saying this, but ''Webcomic/GirlGenius'' managed to at least edge into this territory with Agatha's adventures in Paris; when she got kidnapped, ''again'', right out from under the noses of a Smoke Knight, a Jager, a master spy and a warrior princess, by some third-rate never-before-seen Spark, meaning we're off on yet another plot diversion, the groaning and eye-rolling among the fandom was pretty widely spread.spread. * Tropers/BlueGuy: While ''Webcomic/SquareRootOfMinusGarfield'' has a tendency to suffer from SturgeonsLaw, it usually has enough good edits to keep me interested. However, [[http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=2395 "Nostalgiafield"]] reached a new low. The entire comic is little more than an AuthorTract about [[NewMediaAreEvil why new technology sucks]] and [[NostalgiaFilter "the good old days with no DVDs, vinyl and cassette, and quality programming."]] By definition he seems preoccupied with the past (VHSes and all the other old formats he references all died out because of [[TechnologyMarchesOn innovation]], to [[Franchise/HomestarRunner Strong Bad]] levels (and with him it was obviously PlayedForLaughs). Besides, there are many "quality programs" on today, which only makes the fallacious argument even more blatant. To add insult to injury, the editing is terrible (the second and third panels are obviously copy-pasted, and the image is compressed pretty badly). Now, this tends to be a recurring problem with the comic, but here the ridiculously illogical subject matter made the whole affair cringeworthy. (The cherry on top is TheRant, where the author mentions his "strange thing with Garfield crying", [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial then immediately denies that it's a fetish.]] It just makes the author seem even more pathetic.
1st Nov '15 9:08:16 AM KahunaLagoona
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** Tropers/{{KahunaLagoona}}: I had some going back and forth with this, the infamous Aurora Shooting Comic made directly a week after the incident dismissing the whole thing on the grounds of constant news coverage, or something a bit less controversial and more in line with his comic's actual message? To which I chose [[http://tompreston.deviantart.com/art/SYAC-Entry-Barrier-410580647?q=gallery%3ATomPreston%2F26560917&qo=81 Entry Barrier]]. Pretty much, the idea of the comic is that other artists will chastise you and attempt to prevent you from succeeding, and that reaching the idea of professionalism is some golden land when it's hard work. It was actually notable to get some [[https://twitter.com/Iron_Spike/status/397508350021095424 professional artists to weigh in on it]].
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** Tropers/{{KahunaLagoona}}: I had some going back and forth with this, but the infamous Aurora Shooting Comic made directly a week after the incident dismissing the whole thing on the grounds of constant news coverage, or something a bit less controversial and more in line with his comic's actual message? To which one I ultimately chose was [[http://tompreston.deviantart.com/art/SYAC-Entry-Barrier-410580647?q=gallery%3ATomPreston%2F26560917&qo=81 Entry Barrier]]. Pretty much, com/art/Internet-Prefaces-317417199 Internet Prefaces]], the idea infamous Aurora Shooting Comic made directly a week after the incident dismissing the whole thing because Tom was tired of the comic is constant news coverage. It really cemented to me that Tom had a really had a LackOfEmpathy when it came to the deaths of other artists will chastise you and attempt to prevent you from succeeding, and that reaching the idea of professionalism is some golden land when it's hard work. It was actually notable to get some [[https://twitter.com/Iron_Spike/status/397508350021095424 professional artists to weigh in on it]].people.
31st Oct '15 10:56:50 PM KahunaLagoona
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** Tropers/{{KahunaLagoona}}: I had some going back and forth with this, the infamous Aurora Shooting Comic made directly a week after the incident dismissing the whole thing on the grounds of constant news coverage, or something a bit less controversial and more in line with his comic's actual message? To which I chose [[http://tompreston.deviantart.com/art/SYAC-Entry-Barrier-410580647?q=gallery%3ATomPreston%2F26560917&qo=81 Entry Barrier]]. Pretty much, the idea of the comic is that other artists will chastise you and attempt to prevent you from succeeding, and that reaching the idea of professionalism is some golden land when it's hard work. It was actually notable to get some [[https://twitter.com/Iron_Spike/status/397508350021095424 professional artists to weigh in on it]].
22nd Oct '15 10:26:27 AM hamza678
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22nd Oct '15 10:26:27 AM hamza678
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