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7th Oct '17 8:21:00 AM ryanruff13
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** [=Ryanruff13=]: As much as I do still appreciate some aspects of ''Square Root of Minus Garfield'', the webcomic hasn't personally appealed to me [[JumpingTheShark as much as it had early on in its run]], with [[http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=503 "Garfield Plus Jim Davis' Ego"]] serving as an example of one of the reasons why I believe so. The only joke of the comic is editing it so that ''Garfield'' creator Jim Davis brags about himself by taking Garfield's bragging in the original strip and giving it to him, for no reason other than to perpetuate the perception that "Jim Davis is egotistical lel". While [[TakeThat Take Thats]] can be humorous, and while I do believe that there are numerous critiques that one could make about the ''Garfield'' comics, I still feel that ''Square Root of Minus Garfield'' had shifted towards an overreliance on them early on. There's only so much that one can [[{{Deconstruct}} deconstruct]] something before it just feels overly cynical, if not somewhat arrogant.

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** [=Ryanruff13=]: As much as I do still appreciate some aspects of ''Square Root of Minus Garfield'', the webcomic hasn't personally appealed to me [[JumpingTheShark as much as it had early on in its run]], with [[http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=503 "Garfield Plus Jim Davis' Ego"]] serving as an example of one of the reasons why I believe so. The only joke of the comic is editing it so that ''Garfield'' creator Jim Davis brags about himself by taking Garfield's bragging in the original strip and giving it to him, for no reason other than to perpetuate the perception that "Jim Davis is egotistical lel". While [[TakeThat Take Thats]] can be humorous, and while I do believe that there are numerous critiques that one could make about the ''Garfield'' comics, I still feel that ''Square Root of Minus Garfield'' had shifted towards an overreliance on them mockery of its source material early on. There's only so much that one can [[{{Deconstruct}} deconstruct]] something before it all just feels overly cynical, if not somewhat arrogant.
6th Oct '17 8:45:02 AM ryanruff13
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** [=Ryanruff13=]: As much as I do still appreciate some aspects of ''Square Root of Minus Garfield'', the webcomic hasn't personally appealed to me [[JumpingTheShark as much as it had early on in its run]], with [[http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=503 "Garfield Plus Jim Davis' Ego"]] serving as an example of one of the reasons why I believe so. The only joke of the comic is taking Garfield's bragging in the original comic and giving it to ''Garfield'' creator Jim Davis, for no reason other than to perpetuate the "Jim Davis is egotistical lel" perception of him. While [[TakeThat Take Thats]] can be humorous, and while I do believe that there are numerous critiques that you could make about the ''Garfield'' comics, I still feel that ''Square Root of Minus Garfield'' had shifted towards an overreliance on them early on.

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** [=Ryanruff13=]: As much as I do still appreciate some aspects of ''Square Root of Minus Garfield'', the webcomic hasn't personally appealed to me [[JumpingTheShark as much as it had early on in its run]], with [[http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=503 "Garfield Plus Jim Davis' Ego"]] serving as an example of one of the reasons why I believe so. The only joke of the comic is editing it so that ''Garfield'' creator Jim Davis brags about himself by taking Garfield's bragging in the original comic strip and giving it to ''Garfield'' creator Jim Davis, him, for no reason other than to perpetuate the perception that "Jim Davis is egotistical lel" perception of him. lel". While [[TakeThat Take Thats]] can be humorous, and while I do believe that there are numerous critiques that you one could make about the ''Garfield'' comics, I still feel that ''Square Root of Minus Garfield'' had shifted towards an overreliance on them early on.on. There's only so much that one can [[{{Deconstruct}} deconstruct]] something before it just feels overly cynical, if not somewhat arrogant.
5th Oct '17 9:51:08 PM ryanruff13
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** [=Ryanruff13=]: As much as I do still appreciate some aspects of ''Square Root of Minus Garfield'', the webcomic hasn't personally appealed to me as much as it had early on in its run, with [[http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=503 "Garfield Plus Jim Davis' Ego"]] serving as one example of why I believe so. It does little more than taking Garfield's bragging in the original comic and giving it to the creator of Garfield, for no reason other than to perpetuate the "Jim Davis is egotistical" perception of him. While [[TakeThat Take Thats]] can be humorous, and while I do believe that there are numerous critiques that you could make about the ''Garfield'' comics, I still feel that ''Square Root of Minus Garfield'' had shifted towards an overreliance on them early on.

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** [=Ryanruff13=]: As much as I do still appreciate some aspects of ''Square Root of Minus Garfield'', the webcomic hasn't personally appealed to me [[JumpingTheShark as much as it had early on in its run, run]], with [[http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=503 "Garfield Plus Jim Davis' Ego"]] serving as one an example of one of the reasons why I believe so. It does little more than The only joke of the comic is taking Garfield's bragging in the original comic and giving it to the ''Garfield'' creator of Garfield, Jim Davis, for no reason other than to perpetuate the "Jim Davis is egotistical" egotistical lel" perception of him. While [[TakeThat Take Thats]] can be humorous, and while I do believe that there are numerous critiques that you could make about the ''Garfield'' comics, I still feel that ''Square Root of Minus Garfield'' had shifted towards an overreliance on them early on.
4th Oct '17 11:32:15 AM ryanruff13
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** [=Ryanruff13=]: As much as I do still appreciate some aspects of ''Square Root of Minus Garfield'', the webcomic hasn't personally appealed to me as much as it had early on in its run, with [[http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=503 "Garfield Plus Jim Davis' Ego"]] serving as one example of why I believe so. It does little more than taking Garfield's bragging in the original comic and giving it to the creator of Garfield, for no reason other than to perpetuate the "Jim Davis is egotistical" perception of him. While [[TakeThat Take Thats]] can be humorous, and while I do believe that there are numerous critiques that you could make about the ''Garfield'' comics, I still feel that ''Square Root of Minus Garfield'' had shifted towards an overreliance on them early on.
27th Sep '17 8:55:19 PM Lemia
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* SCPIhpkmn: Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt has become borderline unreadable to me since Anthony Carver's return. Since he was introduced in Chapter 51, he has done nothing but act like a cold, cruel, passive-aggressive shitheel to his daughter Antimony, literally the only family he has left in the world. Why? Because his daughter reminds him of his wife. I'm not going to cover the batshit psychological implications that has for him, because this isn't about that. This is about the fact that Tom Siddel has the absolute gall to put him through a redemption arc, and not make him work for his redemption! Instead, Antimony has to suffer for his sins: her self-confidence is crushed, she can barely control her fire powers, and the comic seems determined on reminding us every chapter that she is the world's biggest fuck-up, while her father gets to continue having his old friends, and even makes nice with Kat, Antimony's best friend, which, somehow, doesn't drive Annie to having a complete meltdown and [[PlayingWithFire melting down half the Court]]. The vaguely human-shaped piece of shit is shaping up to be the biggest KarmaHoudini in all of webcomics. What's tragic is that Tom's a better writer than this, but it's becoming clearer and clearer that the story is more focused on being a TraumaCongaLine [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot as opposed to telling a good narrative]].

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* SCPIhpkmn: Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt has become borderline unreadable to me since Anthony Carver's return. Since he was introduced in Chapter 51, he has done nothing but act like a cold, cruel, passive-aggressive shitheel to his daughter Antimony, literally the only family he has left in the world. Why? Because his daughter reminds him of his wife. I'm not going to cover the batshit psychological implications that has for him, because this isn't about that. This is about the fact that Tom Siddel has the absolute gall to put him through a redemption arc, and not make him work for his redemption! Instead, Antimony has to suffer for his sins: her self-confidence is crushed, she can barely control her fire powers, and the comic seems determined on reminding us every chapter that she is the world's biggest fuck-up, while her father gets to continue having his old friends, and even makes nice with Kat, Antimony's best friend, which, somehow, doesn't drive Annie to having a complete meltdown and [[PlayingWithFire melting down half the Court]]. The vaguely human-shaped piece of shit is shaping up to be the biggest KarmaHoudini in all of webcomics. What's tragic is that Tom's a better writer than this, but it's becoming clearer and clearer that the story is more focused on being a TraumaCongaLine [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot as opposed to telling a good narrative]].narrative]].
** Lemia: The above was my DMOS too and the point I stopped reading the webcomic regularly. I initially was fine with Anthony Carver's return because I thought it signaled that Tom was starting to finally bring the comic to its conclusion with a tighter focus on unresolved plot threads. I was also fine with Anthony acting completely awful towards Annie in his introduction because I thought he would be called out on it and either have to work HARD to make up for his neglect/abuse or Annie would get help from others to break free from him. It was when it became clear that Anthony was going to be painted with the "Oh no, he's not ''really'' a bad guy; you just need to get to know him better!" brush instead of actually having to learn how to be a better father or getting some comeuppance for his actions even though he treated Annie so horribly that ''she literally split her soul in half'' to be able to function around him that my trust in Siddel broke. Add to that how the plot conveniently forgets that he's around whenever it wants to focus on other plotlines in spite of how his return ''should'' have had a major impact on how free Annie was to go on adventures now, and I stopped reading.
27th Sep '17 6:34:28 PM SCPIhpkmn
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* Tropers/CaptainTedium: ''Webcomic/MurryPurryFreshAndFurry'' was one of the worst webcomics I ever read, particularly because of many scenes being needlessly disgusting for the sake of shock value and the author at times coming off as being overbearingly pretentious with the [[TakeThat petty jabs]] he made toward other webcomics, even going so far as to call fans of ''Webcomic/{{Xkcd}}'' "functionally retarded". However, the absolute worst part of this comic for me would be the arc that [[BizarroEpisode ignored the series' main story to focus on]] a crossover between ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyAndFriends'' and ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', especially when Danny Williams from the former was depicted as an extremely unflattering and stereotypical brony caricature by being fat, stubbly, and obsessed with making Fluttershy his wife. It was at that point that I finally gave up on giving this webcomic a chance. Fuck this shit!

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* Tropers/CaptainTedium: ''Webcomic/MurryPurryFreshAndFurry'' was one of the worst webcomics I ever read, particularly because of many scenes being needlessly disgusting for the sake of shock value and the author at times coming off as being overbearingly pretentious with the [[TakeThat petty jabs]] he made toward other webcomics, even going so far as to call fans of ''Webcomic/{{Xkcd}}'' "functionally retarded". However, the absolute worst part of this comic for me would be the arc that [[BizarroEpisode ignored the series' main story to focus on]] a crossover between ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyAndFriends'' and ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'', especially when Danny Williams from the former was depicted as an extremely unflattering and stereotypical brony caricature by being fat, stubbly, and obsessed with making Fluttershy his wife. It was at that point that I finally gave up on giving this webcomic a chance. Fuck this shit!shit!
* SCPIhpkmn: Webcomic/GunnerkriggCourt has become borderline unreadable to me since Anthony Carver's return. Since he was introduced in Chapter 51, he has done nothing but act like a cold, cruel, passive-aggressive shitheel to his daughter Antimony, literally the only family he has left in the world. Why? Because his daughter reminds him of his wife. I'm not going to cover the batshit psychological implications that has for him, because this isn't about that. This is about the fact that Tom Siddel has the absolute gall to put him through a redemption arc, and not make him work for his redemption! Instead, Antimony has to suffer for his sins: her self-confidence is crushed, she can barely control her fire powers, and the comic seems determined on reminding us every chapter that she is the world's biggest fuck-up, while her father gets to continue having his old friends, and even makes nice with Kat, Antimony's best friend, which, somehow, doesn't drive Annie to having a complete meltdown and [[PlayingWithFire melting down half the Court]]. The vaguely human-shaped piece of shit is shaping up to be the biggest KarmaHoudini in all of webcomics. What's tragic is that Tom's a better writer than this, but it's becoming clearer and clearer that the story is more focused on being a TraumaCongaLine [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot as opposed to telling a good narrative]].
15th Jun '17 9:12:55 PM Overlord347
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** It makes Bra a massive hypocrite. She claims that people who use magic or technology to fight are nothing more than cowards and she was among those who said that the spell that defeated Vegetto (her father) by transporting him to a dimension where time moves faster and resulted in a count out was cheating. But apparently, she's perfectly fine using an instant-healing magic item when she's at risk of losing. In fact, she even seems proud of herself for using them.
*** And don't even get me started on the putty-clone afterimages she uses to shackle Cold when she recovers. If that's not magic, then it's so close that it makes no difference.
** It was a wasted opportunity for character development. Bra has spent almost the whole comic strutting about, telling everyone that they're just trash compared to her; you could count the number of people she acts respectfully towards on one hand and still have fingers left over. The match was a classic setup for her to be brought down by her hubris and realize that she's not perfect, not to mention she's got the fate of a universe on her shoulders (she earlier promised to give her wish to one of her opponents whose world was going to be destroyed by a weapon that got out of control) and she just carelessly risked it's entire existence for no reason other than to make things more interesting. Moreover, a loss to Cold would have stung even more, since she could have easily beaten him if she hadn't agreed to the handicap he proposed. Instead, she suffers no consequences and learns nothing from being beaten half to death.

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** It makes Bra a massive hypocrite. She claims that people who use magic or technology to fight are nothing more than cowards and she was among those who said that the spell that defeated Vegetto (her father) by transporting him to a dimension where time moves faster and resulted in a count out was cheating. But apparently, she's perfectly fine using an instant-healing magic item when she's at risk of losing. In fact, she even seems proud of herself for using them.
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them. And don't even get me started on the putty-clone afterimages she uses to shackle Cold when she recovers. If that's not magic, then it's so close that it makes no difference.
** It was a wasted opportunity for character development. Bra has spent almost the whole comic strutting about, about as an insufferable SmugSuper, telling everyone that they're just trash compared to her; you could count the number of people she acts respectfully towards on one hand and still have fingers left over. The match was a classic setup for her to be brought down by her hubris and realize that she's not perfect, not to mention she's got the fate of a universe on her shoulders (she earlier promised to give her wish to one of her opponents whose world was going to be destroyed by a weapon that got out of control) and she just carelessly risked it's entire existence for no reason other than to make things more interesting. Moreover, a loss to Cold would have stung even more, since she could have easily beaten him if she hadn't agreed to the handicap he proposed. Instead, she suffers no consequences and learns nothing from being beaten half to death.



** You know the whole fight beforehand? Yeah, that's now been rendered entirely pointless, along with Cold's new forms. Cold had her on the ropes up until this point and then right at the most critical moment of the fight, "Aha, I've recovered thanks to my DeusExMachina! Now the fight is in my favor! Oh, and by the way, you were never a threat in the first place; I was just playing around." After all that buildup portraying Cold as a legitimate threat, he gets the rug yanked out from under him so that Bra can emerge victorious and unscathed. The entire chapter feels like it was nothing more than an opportunity to show off Bra, complete with NewPowersAsThePlotDemands (which are just as much an AssPull as the beans).

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** You know the whole fight beforehand? Yeah, that's now been rendered entirely pointless, along with Cold's new forms. Cold had her on the ropes up until this point and then right at the most critical moment of the fight, "Aha, I've recovered thanks to my DeusExMachina! Now the fight is in my favor! Oh, and by the way, you were never a threat in the first place; I was just playing around." After all that buildup portraying Cold as a legitimate threat, he gets the rug yanked out from under him so that Bra can emerge victorious and unscathed. The entire chapter feels like it was nothing more than an opportunity to show off Bra, complete with NewPowersAsThePlotDemands (which are just as much an AssPull as the beans). If it was meant to portray Bra as some sort of GuileHero who didn't need power to beat her opponents, then it failed because she just comes off as an overconfident {{Jerkass}} who got in over her head by making a stupid bet, nearly got killed because of it, and resorted to underhanded methods to win while boasting that she was in control the whole time.
25th Apr '17 12:52:00 PM TheFarmboy
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* Tropers/TheFarmboy: ''WebAnimation/DorklyOriginals'' is able to churn out some comics that are pretty funny to compliment their videos. But there was one that wasn't funny. The comic had it where you select one of the Kanto starters from ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' with a humorous result. Except for Bulbasaur where Professor Oak [[KillItWithFire straight up kills the poor thing with a lighter]] and calls you an idiot for picking it. [[SarcasmMode As we all know, someone picking a Pokemon with type-advantages over the first two gyms is a complete retard. Good to know.]]
9th Apr '17 12:39:21 AM CaptainTedium
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[[folder:Cyanide & Happiness]]
* eneuman96: [[http://explosm.net/comics/3786/ This]] ''Webcomic/CyanideAndHappiness'' comic. While I do think the "selfie stick" is a fairly obnoxious idea, the comic still comes off as way too mean-spirited, even by the standards of its usual humor.
* Tropers/CaptainTedium: For the most part, I found ''Cyanide & Happiness'' to be a mixed bag, with some jokes being quite clever and others being appalling and shameful attempts at shock value that were far more disturbing and offensive than they needed to be. The comic that made me swear off this series for good, however, was ''really'' deplorable. It has a woman giving birth to a baby and being informed that her child was born with two faces. The mother wonders how they'll be able to tell which face to remove and we see that only one of the baby's faces is crying, with the other face clearly being non-functioning. The last panel shows a stitch where the baby's crying face used to be, making it clear that the mother [[SkewedPriorities prioritized her child's crying being stopped over her child living a normal life]] and has doomed her baby to die of suffocation and starvation. I always found jokes about killing babies to be in rather poor taste, but this one was especially unforgivable.
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* eneuman96: [[http://explosm.net/comics/3786/ This]] ''{{Webcomic/Cyanide and Happiness}}'' comic. While I do think the "selfie stick" is a fairly obnoxious idea, the comic still comes off as way too mean-spirited, even by the standards of its usual humor.
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