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* Tropers/MightyMewtron: My old DMOS was "Handicar" because of a joke that felt very transphobic, whch negated the message of "The Cissy" which aired right before it. Then I watched "Board Girls" which is about twenty times worse. The fact that they switched from "Tegridy Farms" to a "PC Babies" show is already pretty annoying given how the PC babies [[StrawCharacter are used.]] It starts off cute as Strong Woman enters an athletic competition for women, but immediately goes downhill when they introduce her competition, Heather Swanson, a trans women who only recently transitioned and resembles Randy Savage. The plot then goes into a predictable "trans women have a massive advantage over cis women in sports" story where [[StrawCharacter Heather calls anybody who confronts her transphobic.]][[note]]To give an idea of how old-fashioned this story is, ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' did a similar story in '''2003'''.[[/note]] Strong Woman later reveals that Heather is a vengeful ex of hers and actually just wants to constantly defeat women, but this plot point only confuses the story as it isn't confirmed whether or not she's faking her identity. And in the end, after Heather gets called out, they had the nerve to call this story "nuanced" (to the point that the PC babies aren't even mad), as if it isn't the same one-sided argument that everyone always makes against trans women in sports. If they want to address how trans people can be as awful as anybody else, then [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter the trans character should have just been an average person who happened to also be a sore winner, and not a grotesquely muscled caricature with her balls hanging out characterized as a misogynist in disguise.]] If they wanted to address the issue of trans women in sports in a nuanced way, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot they should have looked at the controversy in more depth,]] such as addressing [[https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/30/sports/caster-semenya-world-championships.html the issues of testosterone testing against even cis women.]] Overall, they contributed to an outdated model of trans stereotyping [[UnfortunateImplications that contributes to dangerous ideas about trans women only existing to hurt cis women]] without adding anything new to the table, while acting like people criticizing their oversimplified take on the issue are the ones seeing it in black and white. The B-plot was a bit better (albeit a pretty generic "Cartman is sexist out of insecurity" plot) as a TakeThat as sexist gamers but it only feels like it was lumped in to make the A-plot less horrible, which didn't work, because this episode is thoroughly disgusting and shows a tragic regression for ''South Park'' as a whole. At least Janet Garrison was in 2005. How could they present a worse version of that plot in 2019? During [[https://www.glaad.org/transweek transgender awareness week,]] [[FridgeHorror no less!]]

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* Tropers/MightyMewtron: My old DMOS was "Handicar" because of a joke that felt very transphobic, whch negated the message of "The Cissy" which aired right before it. Then I watched "Board Girls" which is about twenty times worse. The fact that they switched from "Tegridy Farms" to a "PC Babies" show is already pretty annoying given how the PC babies [[StrawCharacter are used.]] It starts off cute as Strong Woman enters an athletic competition for women, but immediately goes downhill when they introduce her competition, Heather Swanson, a trans women who only recently transitioned and resembles Randy Savage. The plot then goes into a predictable "trans women have a massive advantage over cis women in sports" story where [[StrawCharacter Heather calls anybody who confronts her transphobic.]][[note]]To give an idea of how old-fashioned this story is, ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'' did [[Recap/FuturamaS4E13BendHer a similar story in '''2003'''.story]] '''16 years''' prior.[[/note]] Strong Woman later reveals that Heather is a vengeful ex of hers and actually just wants to constantly defeat women, but this plot point only confuses the story as it isn't confirmed whether or not she's faking her identity. And in the end, after Heather gets called out, they had the nerve to call this story "nuanced" (to the point that the PC babies aren't even mad), as if it isn't the same one-sided argument that everyone always makes against trans women in sports. If they want to address how trans people can be as awful as anybody else, then [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter the trans character should have just been an average person who happened to also be a sore winner, and not a grotesquely muscled caricature with her balls hanging out characterized as a misogynist in disguise.]] If they wanted to address the issue of trans women in sports in a nuanced way, [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot they should have looked at the controversy in more depth,]] such as addressing [[https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/30/sports/caster-semenya-world-championships.html the issues of testosterone testing against even cis women.]] Overall, they contributed to an outdated model of trans stereotyping [[UnfortunateImplications that contributes to dangerous ideas about trans women only existing to hurt cis women]] without adding anything new to the table, while acting like people criticizing their oversimplified take on the issue are the ones seeing it in black and white. The B-plot was a bit better (albeit a pretty generic "Cartman is sexist out of insecurity" plot) as a TakeThat as sexist gamers but it only feels like it was lumped in to make the A-plot less horrible, which didn't work, because this episode is thoroughly disgusting and shows a tragic regression for ''South Park'' as a whole. At least Janet Garrison was in 2005. How could they present a worse version of that plot in 2019? During [[https://www.glaad.org/transweek transgender awareness week,]] [[FridgeHorror no less!]]
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''ALL CHARACTERS AND EVENTS IN THESE EPISODES -- EVEN THOSE BASED ON REAL PEOPLE -- ARE ENTIRELY [[OutOfCharacterMoment MISREPRESENTED]]. ALL SATIRICAL CONTENT IS RESEARCHED.....[[CriticalResearchFailure POORLY.]] THE FOLLOWING PAGE CONTAINS UNPOPULAR EPISODES AND DUE TO THEIR CONTENT THEY SHOULD NOT BE VIEWED BY ANYONE.''

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''ALL CHARACTERS AND EVENTS IN THESE EPISODES -- EVEN THOSE BASED ON REAL PEOPLE -- ARE ENTIRELY [[OutOfCharacterMoment MISREPRESENTED]]. ALL SATIRICAL CONTENT IS RESEARCHED.....[[CriticalResearchFailure POORLY.]] POORLY. THE FOLLOWING PAGE CONTAINS UNPOPULAR EPISODES AND DUE TO THEIR CONTENT THEY SHOULD NOT BE VIEWED BY ANYONE.''



* Tropers/Technature: "[[Recap/SouthParkS13E8DeadCelebrities Dead Celebrities]]". Excellent episode. Absolutely hilarious. But I feel that the ''Series/GhostHunters'' thing just fell flat. Yes, they get scared on a relatively daily basis on the show. That's fine. I had no problem with them exaggerating it to no end either. But they are almost never afraid of ghosts. Anyone who watches the show (or hell, just listens to it in the other room from time to time) know that it's almost always bugs that freak them out the most. It could of easily been absolutely hilarious if [[CriticalResearchFailure they cared a bit more about it]].

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* Tropers/Technature: "[[Recap/SouthParkS13E8DeadCelebrities Dead Celebrities]]". Excellent episode. Absolutely hilarious. But I feel that the ''Series/GhostHunters'' thing just fell flat. Yes, they get scared on a relatively daily basis on the show. That's fine. I had no problem with them exaggerating it to no end either. But they are almost never afraid of ghosts. Anyone who watches the show (or hell, just listens to it in the other room from time to time) know that it's almost always bugs that freak them out the most. It could of easily been absolutely hilarious if [[CriticalResearchFailure they cared a bit more about it]].it.



* Tropers/{{Codename Bravo}}: "[[Recap/SouthParkS15E8AssBurgers Ass Burgers]]" claimed that [[CriticalResearchFailure not only does Autism not exist]], but it is just a fake front for cynicism, with all supposed sufferers from the condition just being depressed paranoid clueless jerks, while attempting to thoroughly humiliate them. It went well beyond the usual reluctance to slam disabilities, and just read like a random collection of slurs that did not make any sense. And that's coming from somebody who found ''Website/TheOnion'''s "autistic reporter" mostly funny because it was clever.

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* Tropers/{{Codename Bravo}}: "[[Recap/SouthParkS15E8AssBurgers Ass Burgers]]" claimed that [[CriticalResearchFailure not only does Autism not exist]], exist, but it is just a fake front for cynicism, with all supposed sufferers from the condition just being depressed paranoid clueless jerks, while attempting to thoroughly humiliate them. It went well beyond the usual reluctance to slam disabilities, and just read like a random collection of slurs that did not make any sense. And that's coming from somebody who found ''Website/TheOnion'''s "autistic reporter" mostly funny because it was clever.



* SpaceHunterDrakeRedcrest: "[[Recap/SouthParkS11E8LePetitTourette Le Petit Tourette]]" (where Cartman fakes having Tourette's Syndrome) is an odd episode for me, in that I find the first half hysterical and the second half unfunny. The second half has one of the worst scenes I've ever seen in ''South Park''. At one point, Kyle invites a large number of pedophiles to the Dateline studio to divert attention away from Cartman's interview. There are several things wrong with this. First off, as someone who struggled with suicidal depression, I find most attempts at SuicideAsComedy to be poorly-done, to say the least. Seeing a large group of people shooting themselves in the head just makes me uncomfortable, even if all the people are [[AcceptableTargets pedophiles]]. The second issue I have is that it feels like a CriticalResearchFailure. All these potential child molesters file into the building, one after another. Whenever ''Series/ToCatchAPredator'' had a man arrive at a sting before the previous person had been arrested, the person arriving would become suspicious and leave, not go in blindly. And no, RuleOfFunny does not excuse this since I don't find it funny.

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* SpaceHunterDrakeRedcrest: "[[Recap/SouthParkS11E8LePetitTourette Le Petit Tourette]]" (where Cartman fakes having Tourette's Syndrome) is an odd episode for me, in that I find the first half hysterical and the second half unfunny. The second half has one of the worst scenes I've ever seen in ''South Park''. At one point, Kyle invites a large number of pedophiles to the Dateline studio to divert attention away from Cartman's interview. There are several things wrong with this. First off, as someone who struggled with suicidal depression, I find most attempts at SuicideAsComedy to be poorly-done, to say the least. Seeing a large group of people shooting themselves in the head just makes me uncomfortable, even if all the people are [[AcceptableTargets pedophiles]]. The second issue I have is that it feels like a CriticalResearchFailure.Critical Research Failure. All these potential child molesters file into the building, one after another. Whenever ''Series/ToCatchAPredator'' had a man arrive at a sting before the previous person had been arrested, the person arriving would become suspicious and leave, not go in blindly. And no, RuleOfFunny does not excuse this since I don't find it funny.



* [=RabidBadger1632=]: "[[Recap/SouthParkS16E4Jewpacabra Jewpacabra]]"... Dear God, this episode. ArtisticLicense is too kind. CriticalResearchFailure is too kind. The first half of the episode is Cartman's generic anti-Semitic humor. Nothing to get worked up over. Then the bullshit train pulls into station when Cartman starts dreaming. The episode then makes a poor, poor, attempt to satire the story of Exodus. The story proceeds to victimize the Egyptians using nothing but a truckload of misinformation. It starts with Kyle (in Cartman's dream) telling him that God is making it rain frogs because the Egyptians won't give them what they want, and Cartman commenting on how mean it is to the frogs. Already we have a screw-up. God didn't just randomly decide to throw a bunch of frogs at the Egyptians for the punishment. It was a correlating punishment to the Egyptians idolatry in worshiping Heqet, a frog themed Goddess. Also, nowhere does it say that the frogs were falling miles from the sky to splatter and die on the ground. But that's only the beginning. Next they comment on God hardening Pharaoh's heart, saying that God shouldn't punish Pharaoh if God is going to make Pharaoh say no. Now we're taking verses out of context. [[SarcasmMode I just love that]]. The original story tells that Pharaoh hardened his own heart as a result of God's involvement, therefore it was his own choice. But we're not finished yet. Next, Matt and Trey decide to show just how ignorant they are when they compare the Israelites trying to leave Egypt to the Confederacy trying to leave the Union. Strange, because I don't recall any stories about Union citizens throwing the babies of enslaved Confederate people into crocodile infested water. Seriously, the very fact that they didn't know that the Israelites were in slavery just shows how sloppy their "research" was. But it gets even worse. According to Cartman, "if we don't do whatever the Hebrews want us to do, God is gonna kill little Egyptian boys". According to the actual Bible, it was the final plague of Egypt, where the first-born son of each house would die, but it could have easily been avoided if the Egyptian people put the blood of a lamb on their door frames, or you know, if Pharaoh would stop being a self-absorbed prick and free the Israelites. Right before Cartman dies, he tells God "I promise I'll be Jewish!". It wasn't a matter of being Jewish or not, but simply obeying the true God. But it still gets worse. Because now, I'm not even sure what the hell the episode is trying to do. After the dream, Cartman starts preaching on how the God Jehovah passed over him and that they should all deny Jesus Christ and convert to Judaism. After an unrealistic reaction from the crowd, Cartman tells Kyle that he now sees how Jews feel and that there's no convincing stupid people (the subtly is astounding). They then tell each other Happy Passover and the episode ends. Problem here? Both Jews and Christians believe in the story of Exodus. You can not just call the Jewish people idiots and then try to appease them. Probably makes sense though, considering how little educated they are on religion (they think Jews worship Moses [[note]]While that feature may have been a joke, it's not a very sensical one[[/note]] and that Muslims hate Jesus). The only thing they seem to know about Judaism is "they don't believe that Jesus is the Messiah" which in itself isn't even completely true due to the existence of Messianic Jews. And on a final note, it's not really a good idea to voice satire through the most immoral character on your show.

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* [=RabidBadger1632=]: "[[Recap/SouthParkS16E4Jewpacabra Jewpacabra]]"... Dear God, this episode. ArtisticLicense is too kind. CriticalResearchFailure Critical Research Failure is too kind. The first half of the episode is Cartman's generic anti-Semitic humor. Nothing to get worked up over. Then the bullshit train pulls into station when Cartman starts dreaming. The episode then makes a poor, poor, attempt to satire the story of Exodus. The story proceeds to victimize the Egyptians using nothing but a truckload of misinformation. It starts with Kyle (in Cartman's dream) telling him that God is making it rain frogs because the Egyptians won't give them what they want, and Cartman commenting on how mean it is to the frogs. Already we have a screw-up. God didn't just randomly decide to throw a bunch of frogs at the Egyptians for the punishment. It was a correlating punishment to the Egyptians idolatry in worshiping Heqet, a frog themed Goddess. Also, nowhere does it say that the frogs were falling miles from the sky to splatter and die on the ground. But that's only the beginning. Next they comment on God hardening Pharaoh's heart, saying that God shouldn't punish Pharaoh if God is going to make Pharaoh say no. Now we're taking verses out of context. [[SarcasmMode I just love that]]. The original story tells that Pharaoh hardened his own heart as a result of God's involvement, therefore it was his own choice. But we're not finished yet. Next, Matt and Trey decide to show just how ignorant they are when they compare the Israelites trying to leave Egypt to the Confederacy trying to leave the Union. Strange, because I don't recall any stories about Union citizens throwing the babies of enslaved Confederate people into crocodile infested water. Seriously, the very fact that they didn't know that the Israelites were in slavery just shows how sloppy their "research" was. But it gets even worse. According to Cartman, "if we don't do whatever the Hebrews want us to do, God is gonna kill little Egyptian boys". According to the actual Bible, it was the final plague of Egypt, where the first-born son of each house would die, but it could have easily been avoided if the Egyptian people put the blood of a lamb on their door frames, or you know, if Pharaoh would stop being a self-absorbed prick and free the Israelites. Right before Cartman dies, he tells God "I promise I'll be Jewish!". It wasn't a matter of being Jewish or not, but simply obeying the true God. But it still gets worse. Because now, I'm not even sure what the hell the episode is trying to do. After the dream, Cartman starts preaching on how the God Jehovah passed over him and that they should all deny Jesus Christ and convert to Judaism. After an unrealistic reaction from the crowd, Cartman tells Kyle that he now sees how Jews feel and that there's no convincing stupid people (the subtly is astounding). They then tell each other Happy Passover and the episode ends. Problem here? Both Jews and Christians believe in the story of Exodus. You can not just call the Jewish people idiots and then try to appease them. Probably makes sense though, considering how little educated they are on religion (they think Jews worship Moses [[note]]While that feature may have been a joke, it's not a very sensical one[[/note]] and that Muslims hate Jesus). The only thing they seem to know about Judaism is "they don't believe that Jesus is the Messiah" which in itself isn't even completely true due to the existence of Messianic Jews. And on a final note, it's not really a good idea to voice satire through the most immoral character on your show.



* Tropers/RainingMetal The Black Friday trilogy was a Dethroning Moment since it reeked of CriticalResearchFailure; Did Parker and Stone ever read the articles on the X-box One's negative publicity stunts? And the way they portrayed the two sides it seemed that the UsefulNotes/Playstation4 was the better faction, judging by Bill Gates' characterization. But Bill Gates won, making him a KarmaHoudini. Worse, there was absolutely ''no'' mention of the Wii U. Guess they're [[UngratefulBastard Ungrateful Bastards]] for "Go God Go".

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* Tropers/RainingMetal The Black Friday trilogy was a Dethroning Moment since it reeked of CriticalResearchFailure; Critical Research Failure; Did Parker and Stone ever read the articles on the X-box One's negative publicity stunts? And the way they portrayed the two sides it seemed that the UsefulNotes/Playstation4 was the better faction, judging by Bill Gates' characterization. But Bill Gates won, making him a KarmaHoudini. Worse, there was absolutely ''no'' mention of the Wii U. Guess they're [[UngratefulBastard Ungrateful Bastards]] for "Go God Go".
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* Tropers/CJCroen1393: "[[Recap/SouthParkS15E13AHistoryChannelThanksgiving A History Channel Thanksgiving]]". [[SarcasmMode Thank you]] Matt and Trey, for once again telling everyone that anyone who believes in [=UFOs=], Cryptozoology and ghosts are stupid, gullible idiots who believe anything they hear, but also going the extra mile by saying that any "experts" are actually fraudulent morons. The worst part of this is the fact that they did this already with "Dead Celebrities" and handled it much better there. Here, however, they decided to just wing it and make up a bunch crummy unfunny gags (the only thing remotely funny about it was the scenes involving Creator/NataliePortman). Mixing in the horrific CanonDiscontinuity, even by this show's standards (sooo, we're all just going to forget that Cartman was probed by aliens twice?) and the UnfortunateImplications that all Native Americans are evil, thieving monsters who must be [[KillEmAll gruesomely destroyed]] and you have the worst episode of ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' ever.

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* Tropers/CJCroen1393: "[[Recap/SouthParkS15E13AHistoryChannelThanksgiving A History Channel Thanksgiving]]". [[SarcasmMode Thank you]] Matt and Trey, for once again telling everyone that anyone who believes in [=UFOs=], Cryptozoology and ghosts are stupid, gullible idiots who believe anything they hear, but also going the extra mile by saying that any "experts" are actually fraudulent morons. The worst part of this is the fact that they did this already with "Dead Celebrities" and handled it much better there. Here, however, they decided to just wing it and make up a bunch crummy unfunny gags (the only thing remotely funny about it was the scenes involving Creator/NataliePortman). Mixing in the horrific CanonDiscontinuity, even by this show's standards (sooo, we're all just going to forget that Cartman was probed by aliens twice?) and the UnfortunateImplications that all Native Americans are evil, thieving monsters who must be [[KillEmAll gruesomely destroyed]] destroyed and you have the worst episode of ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' ever.
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* Tropers/LordTwibill: This troper 100% agrees. Everything about the episode is something I can safely say is, bar none, the ''worst'' episode of ''South Park'' I've ever seen. It shits out the same tired plot that grew stale in the [=2000s=] and somehow made it worse. I can't add much more that you haven't [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech laboriously detailed already]], so I'll just say that not only is it a ''really'' bad look on Trey and Matt's part to put out this kind of plot without doing their homework, it's going to be one of the worst-aging episodes in the entire series. This entire episode was a disgrace, and nearly made me swear off the entire series.

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* ** Tropers/LordTwibill: This troper 100% agrees. Everything about the episode is something I can safely say is, bar none, the ''worst'' episode of ''South Park'' I've ever seen. It shits out the same tired plot that grew stale in the [=2000s=] and somehow made it worse. I can't add much more that you haven't [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech laboriously detailed already]], so I'll just say that not only is it a ''really'' bad look on Trey and Matt's part to put out this kind of plot without doing their homework, it's going to be one of the worst-aging episodes in the entire series. This entire episode was a disgrace, and nearly made me swear off the entire series.
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* Tropers/LordTwibill: This troper 100% agrees. Everything about the episode is something I can safely say is, bar none, the ''worst'' episode of ''South Park'' I've ever seen. It shits out the same tired plot that grew stale in the [=2000s=] and somehow made it worse. I can't add much more that you haven't [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech laboriously detailed already]], so I'll just say that not only is it a ''really'' bad look on Trey and Matt's part to put out this kind of plot without doing their homework, it's going to be one of the worst-aging episodes in the entire series. This entire episode was a disgrace, and nearly made me swear off the entire series.
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* Tropers/ScojobiCentral: While I don’t normally get so worked up over cartoons and while I’m not pissed off about the fact that Chef was killed off in [[Recap/SouthParkS10E1TheReturnOfChef "The Return Of Chef"]], it's just that they handled it in the most [[NightmareFuel terrifying]] and [[NauseaFuel gruesome]] [[CruelAndUnusualDeath way they could think of.]] I know South Park is an adult show, but even ''South Park'' doesn’t usually show a death that gruesome for too long. I guess this was just their way of saying goodbye to Music/IsaacHayes [[TearJerker (Rest in peace by the way).]] I feel that a better way to kill him off is to make a HeroicSacrifice or to simply get killed from a gunshot wound, but they just went UpToEleven with this one. I usually avoid this episode because of this moment.

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* Tropers/ScojobiCentral: While I don’t normally get so worked up over cartoons and while I’m not pissed off about the fact that Chef was killed off in [[Recap/SouthParkS10E1TheReturnOfChef "The Return Of Chef"]], it's just that they handled it in the most [[NightmareFuel terrifying]] and [[NauseaFuel gruesome]] [[CruelAndUnusualDeath way they could think of.]] I know South Park is an adult show, but even ''South Park'' doesn’t usually show a death that gruesome for too long. I guess this was just their way of saying goodbye to Music/IsaacHayes [[TearJerker (Rest in peace by the way).]] I feel that a better way to kill him off is to make a HeroicSacrifice or to simply get killed from a gunshot wound, but they just went UpToEleven up to eleven with this one. I usually avoid this episode because of this moment.
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* Alex Andre: "Credigree Weed St. Patrick's Day Special" has replaced "The Big Fix" as my worst episode of Season 25. This episode managed to be worse than "The Big Fix" in many ways. For instance, the fact that Butters pinching people who aren't wearing green as St. Patrick's Day tradition is treated as sexual harassment and he is given the old "Butters' torture porn" treatment. He gets arrested, he gets repeatedly punched in the face by a female lawyer representing him after pinching her because she wasn't wearing green ([[SarcasmMode yeah, good luck holding onto your job after that illegal stunt]]), and he gets tazed by an officer who [[ComicalOverreacting completely overreacts]] to getting pinched by him. After all that, Butters still for some reason doesn't get the hint that maybe he should stop pinching people. But what really got my blood boiling was St. Patrick himself pulling a DeusExMachina by coming out of nowhere to save Butters from getting shot by police (because he's too panicked to even consider to just stop running)... and proceeds to justify his origin of pinching people not wearing green by sexually assaulting everyone at a pub, both women and men. Trey and Matt had the absolute gall to not only be disgustingly hypocritical in terms of being critical towards sexual harassment after the Me Too movement, but also be offensive towards the Irish (even though St. Patrick himself was a Romano-Brit, as Butters clarified when discussing his history). And then sentence Butters to five years of community service at the end of the episode. I've never seen an episode this disrespectul towards figures held in high regard since the "200"/"201" duology, and I'm tired of the Butters disrespect in general. And I'm so tired of this never-ending train wreck of a show that I am pulling the plug on watching it any further.

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* Alex Andre: "Credigree Weed St. Patrick's Day Special" has replaced "The Big Fix" as my worst episode of Season 25. This episode managed to be worse than "The Big Fix" in many ways. For instance, the fact that Butters pinching people who aren't wearing green as St. Patrick's Day tradition is treated as sexual harassment and he is given the old "Butters' torture porn" treatment. He gets arrested, he gets repeatedly punched in the face by a female lawyer representing him after pinching her because she wasn't wearing green ([[SarcasmMode yeah, good luck holding onto your job after that illegal stunt]]), and he gets tazed by an officer who [[ComicalOverreacting completely overreacts]] to getting pinched by him. After all that, Butters still for some reason doesn't get the hint that maybe he should stop pinching people. In fact, the fact that T&M decided to regress him back to his naive, child status after building up his character development after several seasons is insultingly lazy and goes to show that T&M have stopped caring about Butters entirely. But what really got my blood boiling was St. Patrick himself pulling a DeusExMachina by coming out of nowhere to save Butters from getting shot by police (because he's too panicked to even consider to just stop running)... and proceeds to justify his origin of pinching people not wearing green by sexually assaulting everyone at a pub, both women and men. Trey and Matt had the absolute gall to not only be disgustingly hypocritical in terms of being critical towards sexual harassment after the Me Too movement, but also be offensive towards the Irish (even though St. Patrick himself was a Romano-Brit, as Butters clarified when discussing his history). And then sentence Butters to five years of community service at the end of the episode. I've never seen an episode this disrespectul towards figures held in high regard since the "200"/"201" duology, and I'm tired of the Butters disrespect in general. And I'm so tired of this never-ending train wreck of a show that I am pulling the plug on watching it any further.
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* Alex Andre: "Credigree Weed St. Patrick's Day Special" has replaced "The Big Fix" as my worst episode of Season 25. This episode managed to be worse than "The Big Fix" in many ways. For instance, the fact that Butters pinching people who aren't wearing green as St. Patrick's Day tradition is treated as sexual harassment and he is given the old "Butters' torture porn" treatment. He gets arrested, he gets repeatedly punched in the face by a female lawyer representing him after pinching her because she wasn't wearing green ([[SarcasmMode yeah, good luck holding onto your job after that illegal stunt]]), and he gets tazed by an officer who [[ComicalOverreacting completely overreacts]] to getting pinched by him. But what really got my blood boiling was St. Patrick himself pulling a DeusExMachina by coming out of nowhere to save Butters from getting shot by police (because he's too panicked to even consider to just stop running)... and proceeds to justify his origin of pinching people not wearing green by sexually assaulting everyone at a pub, both women and men. Trey and Matt had the absolute gall to not only be disgustingly hypocritical in terms of being critical towards sexual harassment after the Me Too movement, but also be offensive towards the Irish (even though St. Patrick himself was a Romano-Brit, as Butters clarified when discussing his history). And then sentence Butters to five years of community service at the end of the episode. I've never seen an episode this disrespectul towards figures held in high regard since the "200"/"201" duology, and I'm tired of the Butters disrespect in general. And I'm so tired of this never-ending train wreck of a show that I am pulling the plug on watching it any further.

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* Alex Andre: "Credigree Weed St. Patrick's Day Special" has replaced "The Big Fix" as my worst episode of Season 25. This episode managed to be worse than "The Big Fix" in many ways. For instance, the fact that Butters pinching people who aren't wearing green as St. Patrick's Day tradition is treated as sexual harassment and he is given the old "Butters' torture porn" treatment. He gets arrested, he gets repeatedly punched in the face by a female lawyer representing him after pinching her because she wasn't wearing green ([[SarcasmMode yeah, good luck holding onto your job after that illegal stunt]]), and he gets tazed by an officer who [[ComicalOverreacting completely overreacts]] to getting pinched by him. After all that, Butters still for some reason doesn't get the hint that maybe he should stop pinching people. But what really got my blood boiling was St. Patrick himself pulling a DeusExMachina by coming out of nowhere to save Butters from getting shot by police (because he's too panicked to even consider to just stop running)... and proceeds to justify his origin of pinching people not wearing green by sexually assaulting everyone at a pub, both women and men. Trey and Matt had the absolute gall to not only be disgustingly hypocritical in terms of being critical towards sexual harassment after the Me Too movement, but also be offensive towards the Irish (even though St. Patrick himself was a Romano-Brit, as Butters clarified when discussing his history). And then sentence Butters to five years of community service at the end of the episode. I've never seen an episode this disrespectul towards figures held in high regard since the "200"/"201" duology, and I'm tired of the Butters disrespect in general. And I'm so tired of this never-ending train wreck of a show that I am pulling the plug on watching it any further.
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* Alex_823: "Credigree Weed St. Patrick's Day Special" has replaced "The Big Fix" as my worst episode of Season 25. This episode managed to be worse than "The Big Fix" in many ways. For instance, the fact that Butters pinching people who aren't wearing green as St. Patrick's Day tradition is treated as sexual harassment and he is given the old "Butters' torture porn" treatment. He gets arrested, he gets repeatedly punched in the face by a female lawyer representing him after pinching her because she wasn't wearing green ([[SarcasmMode yeah, good luck holding onto your job after that illegal stunt]]), and he gets tazed by an officer who [[ComicalOverreacting completely overreacts]] to getting pinched by him. But what really got my blood boiling was St. Patrick himself pulling a DeusExMachina by coming out of nowhere to save Butters from getting shot by police (because he's too panicked to even consider to just stop running)... and proceeds to justify his origin of pinching people not wearing green by sexually assaulting everyone at a pub, both women and men. Trey and Matt had the absolute gall to not only be disgustingly hypocritical in terms of being critical towards sexual harassment after the Me Too movement, but also be offensive towards the Irish (even though St. Patrick himself was a Romano-Brit, as Butters clarified when discussing his history). And then sentence Butters to five years of community service at the end of the episode. I've never seen an episode this disrespectul towards figures held in high regard since the "200"/"201" duology, and I'm tired of the Butters disrespect in general. And I'm so tired of this never-ending train wreck of a show that I am pulling the plug on watching it any further.

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* Alex_823: Alex Andre: "Credigree Weed St. Patrick's Day Special" has replaced "The Big Fix" as my worst episode of Season 25. This episode managed to be worse than "The Big Fix" in many ways. For instance, the fact that Butters pinching people who aren't wearing green as St. Patrick's Day tradition is treated as sexual harassment and he is given the old "Butters' torture porn" treatment. He gets arrested, he gets repeatedly punched in the face by a female lawyer representing him after pinching her because she wasn't wearing green ([[SarcasmMode yeah, good luck holding onto your job after that illegal stunt]]), and he gets tazed by an officer who [[ComicalOverreacting completely overreacts]] to getting pinched by him. But what really got my blood boiling was St. Patrick himself pulling a DeusExMachina by coming out of nowhere to save Butters from getting shot by police (because he's too panicked to even consider to just stop running)... and proceeds to justify his origin of pinching people not wearing green by sexually assaulting everyone at a pub, both women and men. Trey and Matt had the absolute gall to not only be disgustingly hypocritical in terms of being critical towards sexual harassment after the Me Too movement, but also be offensive towards the Irish (even though St. Patrick himself was a Romano-Brit, as Butters clarified when discussing his history). And then sentence Butters to five years of community service at the end of the episode. I've never seen an episode this disrespectul towards figures held in high regard since the "200"/"201" duology, and I'm tired of the Butters disrespect in general. And I'm so tired of this never-ending train wreck of a show that I am pulling the plug on watching it any further.
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* Alex_823: "Credigree Weed St. Patrick's Day Special" has replaced "The Big Fix" as my worst episode of Season 25. This episode managed to be worse than "The Big Fix" in many ways. For instance, the fact that Butters pinching people who aren't wearing green as St. Patrick's Day tradition is treated as sexual harassment and he is given the old "Butters' torture porn" treatment. He gets arrested, he gets repeatedly punched in the face by a female lawyer representing him after pinching her because she wasn't wearing green ([[SarcasmMode yeah, good luck holding onto your job after that illegal stunt]]), and he gets tazed by an officer who [[ComicalOverreacting completely overreacts]] to getting pinched by him. But what really got my blood boiling was St. Patrick himself pulling a DeusExMachina by coming out of nowhere to save Butters from getting shot by police (because he's too panicked to even consider to just stop running)... and proceeds to justify his origin of pinching people not wearing green by sexually assaulting everyone at a pub, both women and men. Trey and Matt had the absolute gall to not only be disgustly hypocritical in terms of being critical towards sexual harassment after the Me Too movement, but also be offensive towards the Irish (even though St. Patrick himself was a Romano-Brit, as Butters clarified when discussing his history). And then sentence Butters to five years of community service at the end of the episode. I've never seen an episode this disrespectul towards figures held in high regard since the "200"/"201" duology, and I'm tired of the Butters disrespect in general. And I'm so tired of this never-ending train wreck of a show that I am pulling the plug on watching it any further.

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* Alex_823: "Credigree Weed St. Patrick's Day Special" has replaced "The Big Fix" as my worst episode of Season 25. This episode managed to be worse than "The Big Fix" in many ways. For instance, the fact that Butters pinching people who aren't wearing green as St. Patrick's Day tradition is treated as sexual harassment and he is given the old "Butters' torture porn" treatment. He gets arrested, he gets repeatedly punched in the face by a female lawyer representing him after pinching her because she wasn't wearing green ([[SarcasmMode yeah, good luck holding onto your job after that illegal stunt]]), and he gets tazed by an officer who [[ComicalOverreacting completely overreacts]] to getting pinched by him. But what really got my blood boiling was St. Patrick himself pulling a DeusExMachina by coming out of nowhere to save Butters from getting shot by police (because he's too panicked to even consider to just stop running)... and proceeds to justify his origin of pinching people not wearing green by sexually assaulting everyone at a pub, both women and men. Trey and Matt had the absolute gall to not only be disgustly disgustingly hypocritical in terms of being critical towards sexual harassment after the Me Too movement, but also be offensive towards the Irish (even though St. Patrick himself was a Romano-Brit, as Butters clarified when discussing his history). And then sentence Butters to five years of community service at the end of the episode. I've never seen an episode this disrespectul towards figures held in high regard since the "200"/"201" duology, and I'm tired of the Butters disrespect in general. And I'm so tired of this never-ending train wreck of a show that I am pulling the plug on watching it any further.
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* Two-Way Tad: "Credigree Weed St. Patrick's Day Special" has replaced "The Big Fix" as my worst episode of Season 25. This episode managed to be worse than "The Big Fix" in many ways. For instance, the fact that Butters pinching people who aren't wearing green as St. Patrick's Day tradition is treated as sexual harassment and he is given the old "Butters' torture porn" treatment. He gets arrested, he gets repeatedly punched in the face by a female lawyer representing him after pinching her because she wasn't wearing green ([[SarcasmMode yeah, good luck holding onto your job after that illegal stunt]]), and he gets tazed by an officer who [[ComicalOverreacting completely overreacts]] to getting pinched by him. But what really got my blood boiling was St. Patrick himself pulling a DeusExMachina by coming out of nowhere to save Butters from getting shot by police (because he's too panicked to even consider to just stop running)... and proceeds to justify his origin of pinching people not wearing green by sexually assaulting everyone at a pub, both women and men. Trey and Matt had the absolute gall to not only be disgustly hypocritical in terms of being critical towards sexual harassment after the Me Too movement, but also be offensive towards the Irish (even though St. Patrick himself was a Romano-Brit, as Butters clarified when discussing his history). And then sentence Butters to five years of community service at the end of the episode. I've never seen an episode this disrespectul towards figures held in high regard since the "200"/"201" duology, and I'm tired of the Butters disrespect in general. And I'm so tired of this never-ending train wreck of a show that I am pulling the plug on watching it any further.

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* Two-Way Tad: Alex_823: "Credigree Weed St. Patrick's Day Special" has replaced "The Big Fix" as my worst episode of Season 25. This episode managed to be worse than "The Big Fix" in many ways. For instance, the fact that Butters pinching people who aren't wearing green as St. Patrick's Day tradition is treated as sexual harassment and he is given the old "Butters' torture porn" treatment. He gets arrested, he gets repeatedly punched in the face by a female lawyer representing him after pinching her because she wasn't wearing green ([[SarcasmMode yeah, good luck holding onto your job after that illegal stunt]]), and he gets tazed by an officer who [[ComicalOverreacting completely overreacts]] to getting pinched by him. But what really got my blood boiling was St. Patrick himself pulling a DeusExMachina by coming out of nowhere to save Butters from getting shot by police (because he's too panicked to even consider to just stop running)... and proceeds to justify his origin of pinching people not wearing green by sexually assaulting everyone at a pub, both women and men. Trey and Matt had the absolute gall to not only be disgustly hypocritical in terms of being critical towards sexual harassment after the Me Too movement, but also be offensive towards the Irish (even though St. Patrick himself was a Romano-Brit, as Butters clarified when discussing his history). And then sentence Butters to five years of community service at the end of the episode. I've never seen an episode this disrespectul towards figures held in high regard since the "200"/"201" duology, and I'm tired of the Butters disrespect in general. And I'm so tired of this never-ending train wreck of a show that I am pulling the plug on watching it any further.

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* Tropers/MagisterFlopsy: Their portrayal of Trump through Mr. Garrison in the COVID Special completely destroyed my opinion of Matt and Trey as people who were in the know about American Politics. People say that what makes South Park's comedy so effective is that they offend everyone equally. But I think an often understated yet equally important element of what makes it work is that there's always a kernel of truth to it. They never had to resort to committing slander against the butt of the jokes, but I don't know what to call Mr. Garrison suppressing the creation of the COVID vaccine other than slander. Say what you will about Trump. Call him a racist. Call him a fascist. Call him a moron. Criticize every other aspect of his COVID policy. I'm not a fan of how he handled it myself, though for an entirely different reason than Trump's political opponents. If there's one thing you can't say about the guy, it's that he was anti-COVID vaccine, even if a large percentage of his base very much are. He removed copious amounts of red tape to get us a 95% effective vaccine in a time frame that pretty much everyone thought impossible up to that point, and to this day he encourages his base to get the COVID vaccine. But apparently Matt and Trey can't recognize a miracle worker when they see one.



* Tropers/MagisterFlopsy: Their portrayal of Trump through Mr. Garrison in the COVID Special completely destroyed my opinion of Matt and Trey as people who were in the know about American Politics. People say that what makes South Park's comedy so effective is that they offend everyone equally. But I think an often understated yet equally important element of what makes it work is that there's always a kernel of truth to it. They never had to resort to committing slander against the butt of the jokes, but I don't know what to call Mr. Garrison suppressing the creation of the COVID vaccine other than slander. Say what you will about Trump. Call him a racist. Call him a fascist. Call him a moron. Criticize every other aspect of his COVID policy. I'm not a fan of how he handled it myself, though for an entirely different reason than Trump's political opponents. If there's one thing you can't say about the guy, it's that he was anti-COVID vaccine, even if a large percentage of his base very much are. He removed copious amounts of red tape to get us a 95% effective vaccine in a time frame that pretty much everyone thought impossible up to that point, and to this day he encourages his base to get the COVID vaccine. But apparently Matt and Trey can't recognize a miracle worker when they see one.
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* Two-Way Tad: I was hoping that SP stay to their roots ever since the S25 premiere was a standard episode. But then T&M swept the rug out from under us and give us yet ''another'' Randy episode in the form of "The Big Fix". The main problem? The fact that Token's name is actually ''Tolkien''--as in J.R.R. Tolkien. When Stan visits a doctor and tells him that, he insults him, accuses him of being racist (a Marsh being accused of racist? "With Apologies to Jesse Jackson" part 2, everybody) and breaks the fourth wall by basically insulting the audience because we all thought that Tolkien was named as such because he was the only Black kid in the town. So not only is T&M retconning things in a stupid way, but also insulting us as an attempt to backtrack their origins of the character's name. And the episode ends with the Blacks (the family, mind you) opening their own weed farm across from Tegridy Farms, turning Randy into an ironic racist by not allowing Tolkien into his family and starting a war with the Blacks. I've never felt so pissed in my life that I am considering boycotting the show. Trey and Matt had one job, and they obviously couldn't handle it anymore. They obviously do not care about us anymore and this episode clearly shows.

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* Two-Way Tad: I was hoping that SP stay to their roots ever since the S25 premiere was a standard episode. But then T&M swept the rug out from under us and give us yet ''another'' Randy episode in the form of "Credigree Weed St. Patrick's Day Special" has replaced "The Big Fix". The main problem? The Fix" as my worst episode of Season 25. This episode managed to be worse than "The Big Fix" in many ways. For instance, the fact that Token's name Butters pinching people who aren't wearing green as St. Patrick's Day tradition is actually ''Tolkien''--as in J.R.R. Tolkien. When Stan visits a doctor treated as sexual harassment and tells he is given the old "Butters' torture porn" treatment. He gets arrested, he gets repeatedly punched in the face by a female lawyer representing him that, he insults him, accuses him of being racist (a Marsh being accused of racist? "With Apologies to Jesse Jackson" part 2, everybody) and breaks the fourth wall by basically insulting the audience after pinching her because we all thought she wasn't wearing green ([[SarcasmMode yeah, good luck holding onto your job after that Tolkien illegal stunt]]), and he gets tazed by an officer who [[ComicalOverreacting completely overreacts]] to getting pinched by him. But what really got my blood boiling was named as such because he was the only Black kid in the town. So not only is T&M retconning things in St. Patrick himself pulling a stupid way, but also insulting us as an attempt DeusExMachina by coming out of nowhere to backtrack their origins of the character's name. And the episode ends with the Blacks (the family, mind you) opening their own weed farm across save Butters from Tegridy Farms, turning Randy into an ironic racist getting shot by police (because he's too panicked to even consider to just stop running)... and proceeds to justify his origin of pinching people not allowing Tolkien into his family wearing green by sexually assaulting everyone at a pub, both women and starting a war with the Blacks. I've never felt so pissed in my life that I am considering boycotting the show. men. Trey and Matt had one job, and they obviously couldn't handle it anymore. They obviously do the absolute gall to not care about us anymore and this only be disgustly hypocritical in terms of being critical towards sexual harassment after the Me Too movement, but also be offensive towards the Irish (even though St. Patrick himself was a Romano-Brit, as Butters clarified when discussing his history). And then sentence Butters to five years of community service at the end of the episode. I've never seen an episode clearly shows.this disrespectul towards figures held in high regard since the "200"/"201" duology, and I'm tired of the Butters disrespect in general. And I'm so tired of this never-ending train wreck of a show that I am pulling the plug on watching it any further.
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* Branch_823: I was hoping that SP stay to their roots ever since the S25 premiere was a standard episode. But then T&M swept the rug out from under us and give us yet ''another'' Randy episode in the form of "The Big Fix". The main problem? The fact that Token's name is actually ''Tolkien''--as in J.R.R. Tolkien. When Stan visits a doctor and tells him that, he insults him, accuses him of being racist (a Marsh being accused of racist? "With Apologies to Jesse Jackson" part 2, everybody) and breaks the fourth wall by basically insulting the audience because we all thought that Tolkien was named as such because he was the only Black kid in the town. So not only is T&M retconning things in a stupid way, but also insulting us as an attempt to backtrack their origins of the character's name. And the episode ends with the Blacks (the family, mind you) opening their own weed farm across from Tegridy Farms, turning Randy into an ironic racist by not allowing Tolkien into his family and starting a war with the Blacks. I've never felt so pissed in my life that I am considering boycotting the show. Trey and Matt had one job, and they obviously couldn't handle it anymore. They obviously do not care about us anymore and this episode clearly shows.

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* Branch_823: Two-Way Tad: I was hoping that SP stay to their roots ever since the S25 premiere was a standard episode. But then T&M swept the rug out from under us and give us yet ''another'' Randy episode in the form of "The Big Fix". The main problem? The fact that Token's name is actually ''Tolkien''--as in J.R.R. Tolkien. When Stan visits a doctor and tells him that, he insults him, accuses him of being racist (a Marsh being accused of racist? "With Apologies to Jesse Jackson" part 2, everybody) and breaks the fourth wall by basically insulting the audience because we all thought that Tolkien was named as such because he was the only Black kid in the town. So not only is T&M retconning things in a stupid way, but also insulting us as an attempt to backtrack their origins of the character's name. And the episode ends with the Blacks (the family, mind you) opening their own weed farm across from Tegridy Farms, turning Randy into an ironic racist by not allowing Tolkien into his family and starting a war with the Blacks. I've never felt so pissed in my life that I am considering boycotting the show. Trey and Matt had one job, and they obviously couldn't handle it anymore. They obviously do not care about us anymore and this episode clearly shows.
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** CapriciousSalmon: "Shots!": This was probably the only time I ever hated an episode. Even if I disagree with an episode's message, I can find some parts of it funny or at the very least I recognize the argument Matt and Trey are trying to make. I didn't get what they were trying to say about anti-vaxxer parents, and the Tegridy plot didn't give them any extra time. I did like the fact they make the point people tend to treat unvaccinated kids like scum, but give leeway to the parents who are putting their children at risk, but the stuff with Liane was super cluttered. Are they saying Liane is right not to vaccinate her son? For reference, they did this plot better in Cherokee Hair Tampons, where Miss Information almost kills Kyle in an attempt to make a quick buck off Sheila. The scene where Cartman blows snot into his hands didn't help, and it viscerally disgusted me more than Boogers and Cum. IMO if they wanted to talk about alternate medicine, maybe they should've done one where Randy uses marijuana, and they could talk about drugs as alternate medicine.

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** * CapriciousSalmon: "Shots!": This was probably the only time I ever hated an episode. Even if I disagree with an episode's message, I can find some parts of it funny or at the very least I recognize the argument Matt and Trey are trying to make. I didn't get what they were trying to say about anti-vaxxer parents, and the Tegridy plot didn't give them any extra time. I did like the fact they make the point people tend to treat unvaccinated kids like scum, but give leeway to the parents who are putting their children at risk, but the stuff with Liane was super cluttered. Are they saying Liane is right not to vaccinate her son? For reference, they did this plot better in Cherokee Hair Tampons, where Miss Information almost kills Kyle in an attempt to make a quick buck off Sheila. The scene where Cartman blows snot into his hands didn't help, and it viscerally disgusted me more than Boogers and Cum. IMO if they wanted to talk about alternate medicine, maybe they should've done one where Randy uses marijuana, and they could talk about drugs as alternate medicine.
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* Branch_823: I was hoping that SP stay to their roots ever since the S25 premiere was a standard episode. But then T&M swept the rug out from under us and give us yet ''another'' Randy episode in the form of "The Big Fix". The main problem? The fact that Token's name is actually ''Tolkien''--as in J.R.R. Tolkien. When Stan visits a doctor and tells him that, he insults him, accuses him of being racist (a Marsh being accused of racist? Now where have he heard that before, hmm?) and breaks the fourth wall by basically insulting the audience because we all thought that Tolkien was named as such because he was the only Black kid in the town. So not only is T&M retconning things in a stupid way, but also insulting us as an attempt to backtrack their origins of the character's name. And the episode ends with the Blacks (the family, mind you) opening their own weed farm across from Tegridy Farms, turning Randy into an ironic racist by not allowing Tolkien into his family and starting a war with the Blacks. I've never felt so pissed in my life that I am considering boycotting the show. Trey and Matt had one job, and they obviously couldn't handle it anymore. They obviously do not care about us anymore and this episode clearly shows.

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* Branch_823: I was hoping that SP stay to their roots ever since the S25 premiere was a standard episode. But then T&M swept the rug out from under us and give us yet ''another'' Randy episode in the form of "The Big Fix". The main problem? The fact that Token's name is actually ''Tolkien''--as in J.R.R. Tolkien. When Stan visits a doctor and tells him that, he insults him, accuses him of being racist (a Marsh being accused of racist? Now where have he heard that before, hmm?) "With Apologies to Jesse Jackson" part 2, everybody) and breaks the fourth wall by basically insulting the audience because we all thought that Tolkien was named as such because he was the only Black kid in the town. So not only is T&M retconning things in a stupid way, but also insulting us as an attempt to backtrack their origins of the character's name. And the episode ends with the Blacks (the family, mind you) opening their own weed farm across from Tegridy Farms, turning Randy into an ironic racist by not allowing Tolkien into his family and starting a war with the Blacks. I've never felt so pissed in my life that I am considering boycotting the show. Trey and Matt had one job, and they obviously couldn't handle it anymore. They obviously do not care about us anymore and this episode clearly shows.
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* Branch_823: I was hoping that SP stay to their roots ever since the S25 premiere was a standard episode. But then T&M swept the rug out from under us and give us yet ''another'' Randy episode in the form of "The Big Fix". The main problem? The fact that Token's name is actually ''Tolkien''--as in J.R.R. Tolkien. When Stan visits a doctor and tells him that, he insults him and breaks the fourth wall by basically insulting the audience because we all thought that Tolkien was named as such because he was the only Black kid in the town. So not only is T&M retconning things in a stupid way, but also insulting us as an attempt to backtrack their origins of the character's name. And the episode ends with the Blacks (the family, mind you) opening their own weed farm across from Tegridy Farms, turning Randy into an ironic racist by not allowing Tolkien into his family and starting a war with the Blacks. I've never felt so pissed in my life that I am considering boycotting the show. Trey and Matt had one job, and they obviously couldn't handle it anymore. They obviously do not care about us anymore and this episode clearly shows.

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* Branch_823: I was hoping that SP stay to their roots ever since the S25 premiere was a standard episode. But then T&M swept the rug out from under us and give us yet ''another'' Randy episode in the form of "The Big Fix". The main problem? The fact that Token's name is actually ''Tolkien''--as in J.R.R. Tolkien. When Stan visits a doctor and tells him that, he insults him, accuses him of being racist (a Marsh being accused of racist? Now where have he heard that before, hmm?) and breaks the fourth wall by basically insulting the audience because we all thought that Tolkien was named as such because he was the only Black kid in the town. So not only is T&M retconning things in a stupid way, but also insulting us as an attempt to backtrack their origins of the character's name. And the episode ends with the Blacks (the family, mind you) opening their own weed farm across from Tegridy Farms, turning Randy into an ironic racist by not allowing Tolkien into his family and starting a war with the Blacks. I've never felt so pissed in my life that I am considering boycotting the show. Trey and Matt had one job, and they obviously couldn't handle it anymore. They obviously do not care about us anymore and this episode clearly shows.

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* Branch_823: "Shots!", the show's 300th episode. Apart from an infuriating running gag where needle-phobic Cartman is demeaned by literally squealing and running away like a pig to the point of stripping off his clothes while stereotypical banjo music plays (because T&M are still teenagers, apparently), there is one moment that stands out for me. In particular, Cartman claiming that vaccinations cause people to become "artistic". He actually means "autistic", which means T&M are once again reminding us about the "Ass Burgers" episode where that very controversial claim is talked about. Because that claim has been proved false, and as somebody on the spectrum, there's nothing that angers me than that controversial claim. When Liane gets jabbed with a vaccination needle at the end, I feared the worst that she would suddenly be on the spectrum, but it turns out she's painting art, subverting what I feared. It was too little, too late, too uninformed. What's more, you could literally cut that ending out and it wouldn't make a difference because that doesn't get mentioned ever again, making me think that T&M decided to voice their pro-"vaccines cause autism" claim again because they've run out of any more ideas, so they're resorting to recycling old stuff. And out of all the recycled stuff, this was the one they chose to bring back. Doing a little something called research is really not that hard to do to debunk claims, T&M.
** CapriciousSalmon: This was probably the only time I ever hated an episode. Even if I disagree with an episode's message, I can find some parts of it funny or at the very least I recognize the argument Matt and Trey are trying to make. I didn't get what they were trying to say about anti-vaxxer parents, and the Tegridy plot didn't give them any extra time. I did like the fact they make the point people tend to treat unvaccinated kids like scum, but give leeway to the parents who are putting their children at risk, but the stuff with Liane was super cluttered. Are they saying Liane is right not to vaccinate her son? For reference, they did this plot better in Cherokee Hair Tampons, where Miss Information almost kills Kyle in an attempt to make a quick buck off Sheila. The scene where Cartman blows snot into his hands didn't help, and it viscerally disgusted me more than Boogers and Cum. IMO if they wanted to talk about alternate medicine, maybe they should've done one where Randy uses marijuana, and they could talk about drugs as alternate medicine.

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* Branch_823: "Shots!", the show's 300th episode. Apart from an infuriating running gag where needle-phobic Cartman is demeaned by literally squealing and running away like a pig to the point of stripping off his clothes while stereotypical banjo music plays (because T&M are still teenagers, apparently), there is one moment that stands out for me. In particular, Cartman claiming that vaccinations cause people to become "artistic". He actually means "autistic", which means T&M are once again reminding us about the "Ass Burgers" episode where that very controversial claim is talked about. Because that claim has been proved false, and as somebody on the spectrum, there's nothing that angers me than that controversial claim. When Liane gets jabbed with a vaccination needle at the end, I feared the worst that she would suddenly be on the spectrum, but it turns out she's painting art, subverting what I feared. It was too little, too late, too uninformed. What's more, you could literally cut that ending out and it wouldn't make a difference because that doesn't get mentioned ever again, making me think that T&M decided to voice their pro-"vaccines cause autism" claim again because they've run out of any more ideas, so they're resorting to recycling old stuff. And out of all the recycled stuff, this was the one they chose to bring back. Doing a little something called research is really not that hard to do to debunk claims, T&M.
** CapriciousSalmon: "Shots!": This was probably the only time I ever hated an episode. Even if I disagree with an episode's message, I can find some parts of it funny or at the very least I recognize the argument Matt and Trey are trying to make. I didn't get what they were trying to say about anti-vaxxer parents, and the Tegridy plot didn't give them any extra time. I did like the fact they make the point people tend to treat unvaccinated kids like scum, but give leeway to the parents who are putting their children at risk, but the stuff with Liane was super cluttered. Are they saying Liane is right not to vaccinate her son? For reference, they did this plot better in Cherokee Hair Tampons, where Miss Information almost kills Kyle in an attempt to make a quick buck off Sheila. The scene where Cartman blows snot into his hands didn't help, and it viscerally disgusted me more than Boogers and Cum. IMO if they wanted to talk about alternate medicine, maybe they should've done one where Randy uses marijuana, and they could talk about drugs as alternate medicine.


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* Tropers/MagisterFlopsy: Their portrayal of Trump through Mr. Garrison in the COVID Special completely destroyed my opinion of Matt and Trey as people who were in the know about American Politics. People say that what makes South Park's comedy so effective is that they offend everyone equally. But I think an often understated yet equally important element of what makes it work is that there's always a kernel of truth to it. They never had to resort to committing slander against the butt of the jokes, but I don't know what to call Mr. Garrison suppressing the creation of the COVID vaccine other than slander. Say what you will about Trump. Call him a racist. Call him a fascist. Call him a moron. Criticize every other aspect of his COVID policy. I'm not a fan of how he handled it myself, though for an entirely different reason than Trump's political opponents. If there's one thing you can't say about the guy, it's that he was anti-COVID vaccine, even if a large percentage of his base very much are. He removed copious amounts of red tape to get us a 95% effective vaccine in a time frame that pretty much everyone thought impossible up to that point, and to this day he encourages his base to get the COVID vaccine. But apparently Matt and Trey can't recognize a miracle worker when they see one.

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* Tropers/{{Sawnik3000}}: "[[Recap/SouthParkS17E4GothKids3DawnOfThePosers Goth Kids 3: Dawn of the Posers]]". This is probably the only episode I flat out hate. While most sub-par South Park episodes at least have a few funny or memorable moments, this episode didn't make me smile once throughout. Let's start with the main problem: The Goth Kids. Prior to this episode I was genuinely indifferent towards them, but this episode made me realize how terrible they are as characters. For starters, all four of them are the exact same character. They're all stereotypical goths with no personality traits that separates them in any way. I can see why they had to be a group rather than a single character in "[[Recap/SouthParkS7E14Raisins Raisins]]", but it just seems so pointless now. You could have all but one goth kid removed from the show, and there'd be little to no difference to their scenes. Second, they're extremely one-note. Every one of their appearances is the same: "Oh, we're goths and hypocrites". It's the same damn joke every time. Sure, they were tolerable in "Raisins", but when you do the same joke every time it gets annoying after a while. Okay, there are other one-note characters on the show that work fine. Ex. Tweek's always a nervous wreck, Kevin Stoley's a sci-fi nerd, etc., but they work because they don't get that much screen time and they do different things with those traits each episode. They never seem to do anything new with these characters; it’s always the same joke on repeat; which is really a shame since I see some potential in one of the Goth Kids, Henrietta. Judging by the brief look we get of her mother (who I’ll admit, made me laugh when she just calls Henrietta fatty at the end of the episode) she could actually have a hilariously abusive childhood. Hell, the situations could even be funnier than the ones with Butter’s parents since she actively acts out against them and would deserve what was coming to her, but no, she’s just another one-dimensional goth kid. The only time they ever made me chuckle was during their brief scene in “You Got F’d in the A” where the tall one says he’s so anti-conformist that he’s conforming against the rest of the group and joins Stan’s dance group. See, that’s doing something new with these characters, it was the only time that one of them did something I wasn’t expecting. Every other scene involving them is just a hypocritical comment against one of the characters and maintaining that they’re goths. This is the reason why this episode fails; the Goth Kids are not interesting or even entertaining enough characters to have an entire episode revolving around them. While I personally didn’t like “[[Recap/SouthParkS13E14TheUngroundable The Ungroundable]]”, they at least managed to salvage it by giving part of the focus to Butters, a funny and likable character. Here, none of the main characters are present; it’s just them for the entire 22-minute runtime. So it’s basically the same jokes we’ve heard in the previous Goth Kids-centric episodes, only without a sub-plot to break it up. Okay, I lied, the Vamps are in this episode too. Whoop dee-fucking do. The Vamps are identical to the Goth Kids in almost every way possible, which I get is supposed to be the joke, but that doesn’t make them any funnier. The thing is though that they add almost nothing to the plot. They’re in the same room as the Goth Kids when they summon Creator/EdgarAllanPoe after they team up and kind of fade into the background afterwards. Oh, except for the vamp that’s a grown black man. I think the joke is that he doesn’t belong here, kind of like the brief joke they did about the random black guy in the other N.A.M.B.L.A. meeting in “[[Recap/SouthParkS4E5CartmanJoinsNAMBLA Cartman Joins NAMBLA]]”, but while that joke was a quick second-long joke, he has several lines throughout the episode that ultimately boils down to “It’s funny because he’s black”. Again, it could’ve worked if it were just a quick little joke, but they just pound the joke to the ground. Also, like I mentioned before, Edgar Allen Poe plays a role in the episode, and I genuinely thought it was funny that he was revealed to be just another stereotypical goth…for about five seconds until I realized that he’s the exact same character as everyone else here. He brings nothing new in this episode, it’s just the same annoying “We’re goths and we’re also hypocrites” jokes we’ve heard dozens of times before in this episode alone. And like the Vamps, he doesn’t contribute to the plot at all. He fades into the background after he’s summoned until he shoots one of the plants the goths think are turning people into emos (trust me, watching the episode wouldn’t help it make sense) only for it to reveal that it was all an elaborate prank; making his appearance in this episode completely and utterly pointless. Oh, and guess what joke they make about emo kids. Come on, you’ll never guess. Give up? Well the joke is that there’s no difference between goths and emos. You know, almost the exact same joke they made in “The Ungroundable”, only they replace vamps with emos. Yeah, this entire episode is a rehash of “The Ungroundable” minus Butters. I really don’t get the thought process behind excluding the main characters from this episode. The general consensus of that episode was that it was lackluster, but had several great moments courtesy of Butters. So if you take out the saving grace of that episode, it’ll somehow get better? Look, I really did like Season 17, and I respect Trey Parker and Matt Stone for wanting to shake things up a bit by giving the focus to different characters, but they should’ve learned from the previous Goth Kids episode that they can’t support a sub-plot, let alone an entire episode, on their own. Overall, as much as I despise the Goth Kids, the episode really isn’t annoying as much as it’s boring; which is something I can’t say for most other ''South Park'' episodes. With the exception of the comment made by Mrs. Beagle, all of the jokes fall flat and are the same ones we’ve heard from the previous Goth Kids episodes and just completely devoid of the originality that South Park, even at its worst, manages to offer.

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* Tropers/{{Sawnik3000}}: "[[Recap/SouthParkS17E4GothKids3DawnOfThePosers Goth Kids 3: Dawn of the Posers]]". This is probably the only episode I flat out hate. While most sub-par South Park ''South Park'' episodes at least have a few funny or memorable moments, this episode didn't make me smile once throughout. throughout.

Let's start with the main problem: The the Goth Kids. Prior to this episode episode, I was genuinely indifferent towards them, but this episode made me realize how terrible they are as characters. For starters, all four of them are the exact same character. They're all stereotypical goths with no personality traits that separates them in any way. I can see why they had to be a group rather than a single character in "[[Recap/SouthParkS7E14Raisins Raisins]]", but it just seems so pointless now. You could have all but one goth kid removed from the show, and there'd be little to no difference to their scenes. Second, they're extremely one-note. Every one of their appearances is the same: "Oh, we're goths and hypocrites". It's the same damn joke every time. Sure, they were tolerable in "Raisins", but when you do the same joke every time it gets annoying after a while. Okay, there are other one-note characters on the show that work fine. Ex.fine (e.g. Tweek's always a nervous wreck, Kevin Stoley's a sci-fi nerd, etc., ), but they work because they don't get that much screen time and they do different things with those traits each episode. They never seem to do anything new with these characters; it’s characters--it’s always the same joke on repeat; which repeat. Which is really a shame since I see some potential in one of the Goth Kids, Henrietta. Judging by the brief look we get of her mother (who I’ll admit, made me laugh when she just calls Henrietta a fatty at the end of the episode) episode), she could actually have a hilariously abusive childhood. Hell, the situations could even be funnier than the ones with Butter’s parents since she actively acts out against them and would deserve what was coming to her, but her. But no, she’s just another one-dimensional goth kid. The only time they ever made me chuckle was during their brief scene in “You Got F’d in the A” A”, where the Michael (the tall one one) says he’s so anti-conformist that he’s conforming against the rest of the group and joins Stan’s dance group. See, that’s doing something new with these characters, it characters. It was the only time that one of them did something I wasn’t expecting. Every other scene involving them is just a hypocritical comment against one of the characters and maintaining that they’re goths.

This is the reason why this episode fails; the fails--the Goth Kids are not interesting or even entertaining enough characters to have an entire episode revolving around them. While I personally didn’t like “[[Recap/SouthParkS13E14TheUngroundable The Ungroundable]]”, they at least managed to salvage it by giving part of the focus to Butters, a Butters--a funny and likable character. Here, none of the main characters are present; it’s present. It’s just them for the entire 22-minute runtime. So it’s basically the same jokes we’ve heard in the previous Goth Kids-centric episodes, only without a sub-plot to break it up.

Okay, I lied, the Vamps are in this episode too. Whoop dee-fucking dee fucking do. The Vamps are identical to the Goth Kids in almost every way possible, which possible--which I get is supposed to be the joke, but that doesn’t make them any funnier. The thing is though is, though, that they add almost nothing to the plot. They’re in the same room as the Goth Kids when they summon Creator/EdgarAllanPoe after they team up and kind of fade into the background afterwards. Oh, except for the vamp that’s a grown black Black man. I think the joke is that he doesn’t belong here, kind of like the brief joke they did about the random black Black guy in the other N.A.M.B.L.A. meeting in “[[Recap/SouthParkS4E5CartmanJoinsNAMBLA Cartman Joins NAMBLA]]”, but NAMBLA]]”--but while that joke was a quick second-long joke, he has several lines throughout the episode that ultimately boils down to “It’s "it’s funny because he’s black”.Black". Again, it could’ve worked if it were just a quick little joke, but they just pound the joke to the ground.

Also, like I mentioned before, Edgar Allen Poe plays a role in the episode, and I genuinely thought it was funny that he was revealed to be just another stereotypical goth…for goth...for about five seconds until I realized that he’s the exact same character as everyone else here. He brings nothing new in this episode, it’s episode--it’s just the same annoying “We’re "We’re goths and we’re also hypocrites” hypocrites" jokes we’ve heard dozens of times before in this episode alone. And like the Vamps, he doesn’t contribute to the plot at all. He fades into the background after he’s summoned until he shoots one of the plants the goths think are turning people into emos (trust me, watching the episode wouldn’t help it make sense) only for it to reveal that it was all an elaborate prank; making prank--making his appearance in this episode completely and utterly pointless. pointless.

Oh, and guess what joke they make about emo kids. Come on, you’ll never guess. Give up? Well the The joke is that there’s no difference between goths and emos. You know, almost the exact same joke they made in “The Ungroundable”, only Ungroundable”--only they replace vamps with emos. Yeah, this entire episode is a rehash of “The Ungroundable” minus Butters. I really don’t get the thought process behind excluding the main characters from this episode. The general consensus of that episode was that it was lackluster, but had several great moments courtesy of Butters. So if you take out the saving grace of that episode, it’ll somehow get better? Look, I really did like Season 17, and I respect Trey Parker and Matt Stone for wanting to shake things up a bit by giving the focus to different characters, but they should’ve learned from the previous Goth Kids episode that they can’t support a sub-plot, let alone an entire episode, on their own. Overall, as much as I despise the Goth Kids, the episode really isn’t annoying as much as it’s boring; which is something I can’t say for most other ''South Park'' episodes. With the exception of the comment made by Mrs. Beagle, all of the jokes fall flat and are the same ones we’ve heard from the previous Goth Kids episodes and just completely devoid of the originality that South Park, even at its worst, manages to offer.
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* Tropers/{{Sawnik3000}}: "[[Recap/SouthParkS17E4GothKids3DawnOfThePosers Goth Kids 3: Dawn of the Posers]]". This is probably the only episode I flat out hate. While most sub-par South Park episodes at least have a few funny or memorable moments, this episode didn't make me smile once throughout. Let's start with the main problem: The Goth Kids. Prior to this episode I was genuinely indifferent towards them, but this episode made me realize how terrible they are as characters. For starters, all four of them are the exact same character. They're all stereotypical goths with no personality traits that separates them in any way. I can see why they had to be a group rather than a single character in "[[Recap/SouthParkS7E14Raisins Raisins]]", but it just seems so pointless now. You could have all but one goth kid removed from the show, and there'd be little to no difference to their scenes. Second, they're extremely one-note. Every one of their appearances is the same: "Oh, we're goths and hypocrites". It's the same damn joke every time. Sure, they were tolerable in "Raisins", but when you do the same joke every time it gets annoying after a while. Okay, there are other one-note characters on the show that work fine. Ex. Tweek's always a nervous wreck, Kevin Stoley's a sci-fi nerd, etc., but they work because they don't get that much screen time and they do different things with those traits each episode. They never seem to do anything new with these characters; it’s always the same joke on repeat; which is really a shame since I see some potential in one of the Goth Kids, Henrietta. Judging by the brief look we get of her mother (who I’ll admit, made me laugh when she just calls Henrietta fatty at the end of the episode) she could actually have a hilariously abusive childhood. Hell, the situations could even be funnier than the ones with Butter’s parents since she actively acts out against them and would deserve what was coming to her, but no, she’s just another one-dimensional goth kid. The only time they ever made me chuckle was during their brief scene in “You Got F’d in the A” where the tall one says he’s so anti-conformist that he’s conforming against the rest of the group and joins Stan’s dance group. See, that’s doing something new with these characters, it was the only time that one of them did something I wasn’t expecting. Every other scene involving them is just a hypocritical comment against one of the characters and maintaining that they’re goths. This is the reason why this episode fails; the Goth Kids are not interesting or even entertaining enough characters to have an entire episode revolving around them. While I personally didn’t like “[[Recap/SouthParkS13E14TheUngroundable The Ungroundable]]”, they at least managed to salvage it by giving part of the focus to Butters, a funny and likable character. Here, none of the main characters are present; it’s just them for the entire 22-minute runtime. So it’s basically the same jokes we’ve heard in the previous Goth Kids-centric episodes, only without a sub-plot to break it up. Okay, I lied, the Vamps are in this episode too. Whoop dee-f***ing do. The Vamps are identical to the Goth Kids in almost every way possible, which I get is supposed to be the joke, but that doesn’t make them any funnier. The thing is though that they add almost nothing to the plot. They’re in the same room as the Goth Kids when they summon Creator/EdgarAllanPoe after they team up and kind of fade into the background afterwards. Oh, except for the vamp that’s a grown black man. I think the joke is that he doesn’t belong here, kind of like the brief joke they did about the random black guy in the other N.A.M.B.L.A. meeting in “[[Recap/SouthParkS4E5CartmanJoinsNAMBLA Cartman Joins NAMBLA]]”, but while that joke was a quick second-long joke, he has several lines throughout the episode that ultimately boils down to “It’s funny because he’s black”. Again, it could’ve worked if it were just a quick little joke, but they just pound the joke to the ground. Also, like I mentioned before, Edgar Allen Poe plays a role in the episode, and I genuinely thought it was funny that he was revealed to be just another stereotypical goth…for about five seconds until I realized that he’s the exact same character as everyone else here. He brings nothing new in this episode, it’s just the same annoying “We’re goths and we’re also hypocrites” jokes we’ve heard dozens of times before in this episode alone. And like the Vamps, he doesn’t contribute to the plot at all. He fades into the background after he’s summoned until he shoots one of the plants the goths think are turning people into emos (trust me, watching the episode wouldn’t help it make sense) only for it to reveal that it was all an elaborate prank; making his appearance in this episode completely and utterly pointless. Oh, and guess what joke they make about emo kids. Come on, you’ll never guess. Give up? Well the joke is that there’s no difference between goths and emos. You know, almost the exact same joke they made in “The Ungroundable”, only they replace vamps with emos. Yeah, this entire episode is a rehash of “The Ungroundable” minus Butters. I really don’t get the thought process behind excluding the main characters from this episode. The general consensus of that episode was that it was lackluster, but had several great moments courtesy of Butters. So if you take out the saving grace of that episode, it’ll somehow get better? Look, I really did like Season 17, and I respect Trey Parker and Matt Stone for wanting to shake things up a bit by giving the focus to different characters, but they should’ve learned from the previous Goth Kids episode that they can’t support a sub-plot, let alone an entire episode, on their own. Overall, as much as I despise the Goth Kids, the episode really isn’t annoying as much as it’s boring; which is something I can’t say for most other ''South Park'' episodes. With the exception of the comment made by Mrs. Beagle, all of the jokes fall flat and are the same ones we’ve heard from the previous Goth Kids episodes and just completely devoid of the originality that South Park, even at its worst, manages to offer.

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* Tropers/{{Sawnik3000}}: "[[Recap/SouthParkS17E4GothKids3DawnOfThePosers Goth Kids 3: Dawn of the Posers]]". This is probably the only episode I flat out hate. While most sub-par South Park episodes at least have a few funny or memorable moments, this episode didn't make me smile once throughout. Let's start with the main problem: The Goth Kids. Prior to this episode I was genuinely indifferent towards them, but this episode made me realize how terrible they are as characters. For starters, all four of them are the exact same character. They're all stereotypical goths with no personality traits that separates them in any way. I can see why they had to be a group rather than a single character in "[[Recap/SouthParkS7E14Raisins Raisins]]", but it just seems so pointless now. You could have all but one goth kid removed from the show, and there'd be little to no difference to their scenes. Second, they're extremely one-note. Every one of their appearances is the same: "Oh, we're goths and hypocrites". It's the same damn joke every time. Sure, they were tolerable in "Raisins", but when you do the same joke every time it gets annoying after a while. Okay, there are other one-note characters on the show that work fine. Ex. Tweek's always a nervous wreck, Kevin Stoley's a sci-fi nerd, etc., but they work because they don't get that much screen time and they do different things with those traits each episode. They never seem to do anything new with these characters; it’s always the same joke on repeat; which is really a shame since I see some potential in one of the Goth Kids, Henrietta. Judging by the brief look we get of her mother (who I’ll admit, made me laugh when she just calls Henrietta fatty at the end of the episode) she could actually have a hilariously abusive childhood. Hell, the situations could even be funnier than the ones with Butter’s parents since she actively acts out against them and would deserve what was coming to her, but no, she’s just another one-dimensional goth kid. The only time they ever made me chuckle was during their brief scene in “You Got F’d in the A” where the tall one says he’s so anti-conformist that he’s conforming against the rest of the group and joins Stan’s dance group. See, that’s doing something new with these characters, it was the only time that one of them did something I wasn’t expecting. Every other scene involving them is just a hypocritical comment against one of the characters and maintaining that they’re goths. This is the reason why this episode fails; the Goth Kids are not interesting or even entertaining enough characters to have an entire episode revolving around them. While I personally didn’t like “[[Recap/SouthParkS13E14TheUngroundable The Ungroundable]]”, they at least managed to salvage it by giving part of the focus to Butters, a funny and likable character. Here, none of the main characters are present; it’s just them for the entire 22-minute runtime. So it’s basically the same jokes we’ve heard in the previous Goth Kids-centric episodes, only without a sub-plot to break it up. Okay, I lied, the Vamps are in this episode too. Whoop dee-f***ing dee-fucking do. The Vamps are identical to the Goth Kids in almost every way possible, which I get is supposed to be the joke, but that doesn’t make them any funnier. The thing is though that they add almost nothing to the plot. They’re in the same room as the Goth Kids when they summon Creator/EdgarAllanPoe after they team up and kind of fade into the background afterwards. Oh, except for the vamp that’s a grown black man. I think the joke is that he doesn’t belong here, kind of like the brief joke they did about the random black guy in the other N.A.M.B.L.A. meeting in “[[Recap/SouthParkS4E5CartmanJoinsNAMBLA Cartman Joins NAMBLA]]”, but while that joke was a quick second-long joke, he has several lines throughout the episode that ultimately boils down to “It’s funny because he’s black”. Again, it could’ve worked if it were just a quick little joke, but they just pound the joke to the ground. Also, like I mentioned before, Edgar Allen Poe plays a role in the episode, and I genuinely thought it was funny that he was revealed to be just another stereotypical goth…for about five seconds until I realized that he’s the exact same character as everyone else here. He brings nothing new in this episode, it’s just the same annoying “We’re goths and we’re also hypocrites” jokes we’ve heard dozens of times before in this episode alone. And like the Vamps, he doesn’t contribute to the plot at all. He fades into the background after he’s summoned until he shoots one of the plants the goths think are turning people into emos (trust me, watching the episode wouldn’t help it make sense) only for it to reveal that it was all an elaborate prank; making his appearance in this episode completely and utterly pointless. Oh, and guess what joke they make about emo kids. Come on, you’ll never guess. Give up? Well the joke is that there’s no difference between goths and emos. You know, almost the exact same joke they made in “The Ungroundable”, only they replace vamps with emos. Yeah, this entire episode is a rehash of “The Ungroundable” minus Butters. I really don’t get the thought process behind excluding the main characters from this episode. The general consensus of that episode was that it was lackluster, but had several great moments courtesy of Butters. So if you take out the saving grace of that episode, it’ll somehow get better? Look, I really did like Season 17, and I respect Trey Parker and Matt Stone for wanting to shake things up a bit by giving the focus to different characters, but they should’ve learned from the previous Goth Kids episode that they can’t support a sub-plot, let alone an entire episode, on their own. Overall, as much as I despise the Goth Kids, the episode really isn’t annoying as much as it’s boring; which is something I can’t say for most other ''South Park'' episodes. With the exception of the comment made by Mrs. Beagle, all of the jokes fall flat and are the same ones we’ve heard from the previous Goth Kids episodes and just completely devoid of the originality that South Park, even at its worst, manages to offer.
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** Tropers/{{HSRW101}}: I also have my own issues with "Timmy 2000" that I don't think most people ever really thought about, aside from the very bitter jabs at Phil Collins. I've always had an issue with how they downplayed Timmy's disability and also about the concern how people would laugh at him--especially in Stan's half-assed "I learned something today" speech that went on about "he made us laugh, and the people that are wrong are the ones that think people like Timmy should be 'protected' and kept out of the public's eye. The cool thing about Timmy being in a band was that he was in your face, and you had to deal with him, whether you laughed or cried, or felt nothing." ...Does Trey and Matt really not know how people are still just cruel to people with disabilities? Just because the episode doesn't show that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Just look up the awful #Autismchallenge on TikTok years later, and not to mention how people diagnosed with autism have been shot down and killed by police. For me, this one just showed how not only how dated this episode is, but how ignorant it is. I'm glad that characters with disabilities in the show like Timmy and Jimmy are beloved characters, especially by those who are disabled themselves, but this episode's handling of that topic back then just really gets under my skin. In addition, I'm surprised no one has brought up the fact that they made Skylar (the same Skylar introduced in "Cat Orgy", who was presented as being a creepy aggressive asshole who was dating Shelly at the time--a 22-year-old man dating a 12-year-old girl--who even Cartman, of all people, bluntly said "[[EveryoneHasStandards Dude, that's not cool!]]") into a sympathetic character just to make Phil Collins look like the bigger asshole out of their own bitterness. Let me repeat that: they took a past character who was a creepy, legit pedophile dating someone 10 years younger than himself, and yet we're supposed to care for him? Did Trey and Matt's juvenile bitterness make them forget that we're supposed to hate Skylar for the right reasons?! I don't care if anyone don't care for Phil Collins' music, or if they do like that one song they only ever sing in the episode. There is no way anyone should ever make someone who is a legit pedophile sympathetic, which ironically this was called out two episodes later in "Cartman Joins NAMBLA"! I love your show, Trey and Matt, but seriously, fuck this episode!

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** Tropers/{{HSRW101}}: I also have my own issues with "Timmy 2000" that I don't think most people ever really thought about, aside from the very bitter jabs at Phil Collins. I've always had an issue with how they downplayed Timmy's disability and also about the concern how people would laugh at him--especially in Stan's half-assed "I learned something today" speech that went on about "he made us laugh, and the people that are wrong are the ones that think people like Timmy should be 'protected' and kept out of the public's eye. The cool thing about Timmy being in a band was that he was in your face, and you had to deal with him, whether you laughed or cried, or felt nothing." ...Does Trey and Matt really not know how people are still just cruel to people with disabilities? Just because the episode doesn't show that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Just look up the awful #Autismchallenge on TikTok [=TikTok=] years later, and not to mention how people diagnosed with autism have been shot down and killed by police. For me, this one just showed how not only how dated this episode is, but how ignorant it is. I'm glad that characters with disabilities in the show like Timmy and Jimmy are beloved characters, especially by those who are disabled themselves, but this episode's handling of that topic back then just really gets under my skin. In addition, I'm surprised no one has brought up the fact that they made Skylar (the same Skylar introduced in "Cat Orgy", who was presented as being a creepy aggressive asshole who was dating Shelly at the time--a 22-year-old man dating a 12-year-old girl--who even Cartman, of all people, bluntly said "[[EveryoneHasStandards Dude, that's not cool!]]") into a sympathetic character just to make Phil Collins look like the bigger asshole out of their own bitterness. Let me repeat that: they took a past character who was a creepy, legit pedophile dating someone 10 years younger than himself, and yet we're supposed to care for him? Did Trey and Matt's juvenile bitterness make them forget that we're supposed to hate Skylar for the right reasons?! I don't care if anyone don't care for Phil Collins' music, or if they do like that one song they only ever sing in the episode. There is no way anyone should ever make someone who is a legit pedophile sympathetic, which ironically this was called out two episodes later in "Cartman Joins NAMBLA"! I love your show, Trey and Matt, but seriously, fuck this episode!
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* Law_823: "Shots!", the show's 300th episode. Apart from an infuriating running gag where needle-phobic Cartman is demeaned by literally squealing and running away like a pig to the point of stripping off his clothes while stereotypical banjo music plays (because T&M are still teenagers, apparently), there is one moment that stands out for me. In particular, Cartman claiming that vaccinations cause people to become "artistic". He actually means "autistic", which means T&M are once again reminding us about the "Ass Burgers" episode where that very controversial claim is talked about. Because that claim has been proved false, and as somebody on the spectrum, there's nothing that angers me than that controversial claim. When Liane gets jabbed with a vaccination needle at the end, I feared the worst that she would suddenly be on the spectrum, but it turns out she's painting art, subverting what I feared. It was too little, too late, too uninformed. What's more, you could literally cut that ending out and it wouldn't make a difference because that doesn't get mentioned ever again, making me think that T&M decided to voice their pro-"vaccines cause autism" claim again because they've run out of any more ideas, so they're resorting to recycling old stuff. And out of all the recycled stuff, this was the one they chose to bring back. Doing a little something called research is really not that hard to do to debunk claims, T&M.

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* Law_823: Branch_823: "Shots!", the show's 300th episode. Apart from an infuriating running gag where needle-phobic Cartman is demeaned by literally squealing and running away like a pig to the point of stripping off his clothes while stereotypical banjo music plays (because T&M are still teenagers, apparently), there is one moment that stands out for me. In particular, Cartman claiming that vaccinations cause people to become "artistic". He actually means "autistic", which means T&M are once again reminding us about the "Ass Burgers" episode where that very controversial claim is talked about. Because that claim has been proved false, and as somebody on the spectrum, there's nothing that angers me than that controversial claim. When Liane gets jabbed with a vaccination needle at the end, I feared the worst that she would suddenly be on the spectrum, but it turns out she's painting art, subverting what I feared. It was too little, too late, too uninformed. What's more, you could literally cut that ending out and it wouldn't make a difference because that doesn't get mentioned ever again, making me think that T&M decided to voice their pro-"vaccines cause autism" claim again because they've run out of any more ideas, so they're resorting to recycling old stuff. And out of all the recycled stuff, this was the one they chose to bring back. Doing a little something called research is really not that hard to do to debunk claims, T&M.
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* Tropers/{{NickelParkLavigne}}: I am likely apart of the minority within this fandom who finds [[SitcomArchNemesis Cartman vs. Kyle]] episodes boring in addition to having Kyle as her least favorite among the major characters. And the reason is animated into "[[Recap/SouthParkS12E1TonsilTrouble Tonsil Trouble]]". The episode starts with Cartman getting his tonsils checked. Unfortunately, Cartman gets affected with HIV due to the incompetence of the doctors. Cartman is understandably upset. There are jokes over HIV, but that isn't the reason this episode lands on this page. It lands on the page because after finding out that Cartman has HIV, Kyle starts laughing at him. Wow, I never knew you were such an asshole, Kyle. If you were in [[NotSoDifferent Cartman's shoes and he was laughing at you for the same reason,]] [[{{Hypocrite}} you'd get pissed too.]] So we have an episode of a redundant Cartman vs. Kyle plot, and Kyle at his worst, being a hypocritical asshole. Stan and Kyle episodes at least provide different flavors within their episodes whether they're SugarWiki/{{funny|Moments}}, [[TearJerker depressing,]] [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome adventurous]] or SugarWiki/{{heartwarming|Moments}}, sometimes more than one in the same episode. Until Kyle becomes more than a HeroAntagonist to Cartman, he will remain my least favorite major character on the show. The only thing I like about this episode is [[HoYay Butters kissing Cartman's cheek.]] Everything else is worthless.

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* Tropers/{{NickelParkLavigne}}: I am likely apart of the minority within this fandom who finds [[SitcomArchNemesis Cartman vs. Kyle]] episodes boring in addition to having Kyle as her least favorite among the major characters. And the reason is animated into "[[Recap/SouthParkS12E1TonsilTrouble Tonsil Trouble]]". The episode starts with Cartman getting his tonsils checked. Unfortunately, Cartman gets affected with HIV due to the incompetence of the doctors. Cartman is understandably upset. There are jokes over HIV, but that isn't the reason this episode lands on this page. It lands on the page because after finding out that Cartman has HIV, Kyle starts laughing at him. Wow, I never knew you were such an asshole, Kyle. If you were in [[NotSoDifferent in Cartman's shoes and he was laughing at you for the same reason,]] reason, [[{{Hypocrite}} you'd get pissed too.]] So we have an episode of a redundant Cartman vs. Kyle plot, and Kyle at his worst, being a hypocritical asshole. Stan and Kyle episodes at least provide different flavors within their episodes whether they're SugarWiki/{{funny|Moments}}, [[TearJerker depressing,]] [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome adventurous]] or SugarWiki/{{heartwarming|Moments}}, sometimes more than one in the same episode. Until Kyle becomes more than a HeroAntagonist to Cartman, he will remain my least favorite major character on the show. The only thing I like about this episode is [[HoYay Butters kissing Cartman's cheek.]] Everything else is worthless.
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** CapriciousSalmon: This was probably the only time I ever hated an episode. Even if I disagree with an episode's message, I can find some parts of it funny or at the very least I recognize the argument Matt and Trey are trying to make. I didn't get what they were trying to say about anti-vaxxer parents, and the Tegridy plot didn't give them any extra time. I did like the fact they make the point people tend to treat unvaccinated kids like scum, but give leeway to the parents who are putting their children at risk, but the stuff with Liane was super cluttered. Are they saying Liane is right not to vaccinate her son? For reference, they did this plot better in Cherokee Hair Tampons, where Miss Information almost kills Kyle in an attempt to make a quick buck off Sheila. The scene where Cartman blows snot into his hands didn't help, and it viscerally disgusted me more than Boogers and Scum. IMO if they wanted to talk about alternate medicine, maybe they should've done one where Randy uses marijuana, and they could talk about drugs as alternate medicine.

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** CapriciousSalmon: This was probably the only time I ever hated an episode. Even if I disagree with an episode's message, I can find some parts of it funny or at the very least I recognize the argument Matt and Trey are trying to make. I didn't get what they were trying to say about anti-vaxxer parents, and the Tegridy plot didn't give them any extra time. I did like the fact they make the point people tend to treat unvaccinated kids like scum, but give leeway to the parents who are putting their children at risk, but the stuff with Liane was super cluttered. Are they saying Liane is right not to vaccinate her son? For reference, they did this plot better in Cherokee Hair Tampons, where Miss Information almost kills Kyle in an attempt to make a quick buck off Sheila. The scene where Cartman blows snot into his hands didn't help, and it viscerally disgusted me more than Boogers and Scum.Cum. IMO if they wanted to talk about alternate medicine, maybe they should've done one where Randy uses marijuana, and they could talk about drugs as alternate medicine.
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** CapriciousSalmon: This was probably the only time I ever hated an episode. Even if I disagree with an episode's message, I can find some parts of it funny or at the very least I recognize the argument Matt and Trey are trying to make. I didn't get what they were trying to say about anti-vaxxer parents, and the Tegridy plot didn't give them any extra time. I did like the fact they make the point people tend to treat unvaccinated kids like scum, but give leeway to the parents who are putting their children at risk, but the stuff with Liane was super cluttered. Are they saying Liane is right not to vaccinate her son? For reference, they did this plot better in Cherokee Hair Tampons, where Miss Information almost kills Kyle in an attempt to make a quick buck off Sheila. The scene where Cartman blows snot into his hands didn't help, and it viscerally disgusted me more than Boogers and Scum. IMO if they wanted to talk about alternate medicine, maybe they should've done one where Randy uses marijuana, and they could talk about drugs as alternate medicine.
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* Branch_823: "Shots!", the show's 300th episode. Apart from an infuriating running gag where needle-phobic Cartman is demeaned by literally squealing and running away like a pig to the point of stripping off his clothes while stereotypical banjo music plays (because T&M are still teenagers, apparently), there is one moment that stands out for me. In particular, Cartman claiming that vaccinations cause people to become "artistic". He actually means "autistic", which means T&M are once again reminding us about the "Ass Burgers" episode where that very controversial claim is talked about. Because that claim has been proved false, and as somebody on the spectrum, there's nothing that angers me than that controversial claim. When Liane gets jabbed with a vaccination needle at the end, I feared the worst that she would suddenly be on the spectrum, but it turns out she's painting art, subverting what I feared. It was too little, too late, too uninformed. What's more, you could literally cut that ending out and it wouldn't make a difference because that doesn't get mentioned ever again, making me think that T&M decided to voice their pro-"vaccines cause autism" claim again because they've run out of any more ideas, so they're resorting to recycling old stuff. And out of all the recycled stuff, this was the one they chose to bring back. Doing a little something called research is really not that hard to do to debunk claims, T&M.

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* Branch_823: Law_823: "Shots!", the show's 300th episode. Apart from an infuriating running gag where needle-phobic Cartman is demeaned by literally squealing and running away like a pig to the point of stripping off his clothes while stereotypical banjo music plays (because T&M are still teenagers, apparently), there is one moment that stands out for me. In particular, Cartman claiming that vaccinations cause people to become "artistic". He actually means "autistic", which means T&M are once again reminding us about the "Ass Burgers" episode where that very controversial claim is talked about. Because that claim has been proved false, and as somebody on the spectrum, there's nothing that angers me than that controversial claim. When Liane gets jabbed with a vaccination needle at the end, I feared the worst that she would suddenly be on the spectrum, but it turns out she's painting art, subverting what I feared. It was too little, too late, too uninformed. What's more, you could literally cut that ending out and it wouldn't make a difference because that doesn't get mentioned ever again, making me think that T&M decided to voice their pro-"vaccines cause autism" claim again because they've run out of any more ideas, so they're resorting to recycling old stuff. And out of all the recycled stuff, this was the one they chose to bring back. Doing a little something called research is really not that hard to do to debunk claims, T&M.
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* Tropers/SirPsychoSexy: "[[Recap/SouthParkS12E5EekAPenis Eek, A Penis!]]" So SO many UnfortunateImplications ("you'll never be a real man/woman, so why try?") Plus Trey and Matt [[WriterOnBoard seem to have a thinly veiled contempt for]] {{Transgender}} people.

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* Tropers/SirPsychoSexy: "[[Recap/SouthParkS12E5EekAPenis Eek, A Penis!]]" So SO many UnfortunateImplications ("you'll never be a real man/woman, so why try?") Plus Trey and Matt [[WriterOnBoard seem to have a thinly veiled contempt for]] {{Transgender}} UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} people.
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* Tropers/{{mkmlp}}: This may be one of the less noteworthy episodes to place here, but for me "[[Recap/SouthParkS10E2SmugAlert Smug Alert]]" was the episode that solidified just how truly unlike Randy and the other adults in South Park can be. Long story short, Kyle's dad Gerald gets all smug after getting a hybrid car. Gets on the bad side of the other residence of South Park. So he decides to move to San Francisco and uproot his whole family, rather than stop acting like a self absorbed douche. Not wanting to lose his best friend, Stan writes a song that convinces the rest of the adult's in town to get hybrid cars too. Who also start acting smug about it. And when their own smugness inadvertently causes a major disaster, literally every adult in South Park, especially his own father, blames Stan and his "gay ass song" and the hybrid cars, for the cataclysm that was fueled by their own smug attitudes. And they spend the entire rest of the episode blaming everything on Stan, while showing no sympathy towards his fears of losing Kyle. And when they are finally told off for this and informed that hybrid cars are still good and all they have to do is drive them without having a smug attitude about it, they "learn" that they are just not ready to use such technology without being smug jackasses about it. This is the moment where I just wanted to tell Randy and the rest of the adult population of South Park to fuck off.

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* Tropers/{{mkmlp}}: This may be one of the less noteworthy episodes to place here, but for me "[[Recap/SouthParkS10E2SmugAlert Smug Alert]]" was the episode that solidified just how truly unlike despicable Randy and the other adults in South Park can be. Long story short, Kyle's dad Gerald gets all smug after getting a hybrid car. Gets on the bad side of the other residence of South Park. So he decides to move to San Francisco and uproot his whole family, rather than stop acting like a self absorbed douche. Not wanting to lose his best friend, Stan writes a song that convinces the rest of the adult's in town to get hybrid cars too. Who also start acting smug about it. And when their own smugness inadvertently causes a major disaster, literally every adult in South Park, especially his own father, blames Stan and his "gay ass song" and the hybrid cars, for the cataclysm that was fueled by their own smug attitudes. And they spend the entire rest of the episode blaming everything on Stan, while showing no sympathy towards his fears of losing Kyle. And when they are finally told off for this and informed that hybrid cars are still good and all they have to do is drive them without having a smug attitude about it, they "learn" that they are just not ready to use such technology without being smug jackasses about it. This is the moment where I just wanted to tell Randy and the rest of the adult population of South Park to fuck off.
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* Tropers/{{mkmlp}}: This may be one of the less noteworthy episodes to place here, but for me "[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/SouthParkS10E2SmugAlert Smug Alert]]" was the episode that solidified just how truly unlike Randy and the other adults in South Park can be. Long story short, Kyle's dad Gerald gets all smug after getting a hybrid car. Gets on the bad side of the other residence of South Park. So he decides to move to San Francisco and uproot his whole family, rather than stop acting like a self absorbed douche. Not wanting to lose his best friend, Stan writes a song that convinces the rest of the adult's in town to get hybrid cars too. Who also start acting smug about it. And when their own smugness inadvertently causes a major disaster, literally every adult in South Park, especially his own father, blames Stan and his "gay ass song" and the hybrid cars, for the cataclysm that was fueled by their own smug attitudes. And they spend the entire rest of the episode blaming everything on Stan, while showing no sympathy towards his fears of losing Kyle. And when they're are finally told off for this and informed that hybrid cars are still good and all they have to do is drive them without having a smug attitude about it, they "learn" that they are just not ready to use such technology without being smug jackasses about it. This is the moment where I just wanted to tell Randy and the rest of the adult population of South Park to fuck off.

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* Tropers/{{mkmlp}}: This may be one of the less noteworthy episodes to place here, but for me "[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/SouthParkS10E2SmugAlert "[[Recap/SouthParkS10E2SmugAlert Smug Alert]]" was the episode that solidified just how truly unlike Randy and the other adults in South Park can be. Long story short, Kyle's dad Gerald gets all smug after getting a hybrid car. Gets on the bad side of the other residence of South Park. So he decides to move to San Francisco and uproot his whole family, rather than stop acting like a self absorbed douche. Not wanting to lose his best friend, Stan writes a song that convinces the rest of the adult's in town to get hybrid cars too. Who also start acting smug about it. And when their own smugness inadvertently causes a major disaster, literally every adult in South Park, especially his own father, blames Stan and his "gay ass song" and the hybrid cars, for the cataclysm that was fueled by their own smug attitudes. And they spend the entire rest of the episode blaming everything on Stan, while showing no sympathy towards his fears of losing Kyle. And when they're they are finally told off for this and informed that hybrid cars are still good and all they have to do is drive them without having a smug attitude about it, they "learn" that they are just not ready to use such technology without being smug jackasses about it. This is the moment where I just wanted to tell Randy and the rest of the adult population of South Park to fuck off.

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