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[[folder: Season 19]]
* [=AustinDR=]: For me, it's "Boys & Squirrels." In the episode, Chris and Stewie decide to raise a baby squirrel after its parents are killed in an accident. After growing attached to the squirrel, it is predictably killed and eaten by Brian. While you can make the argument that it is unsurprising given that it's in Brian's nature to do so, Brian nevertheless is consistently depicted as a sapient dog meaning that he should at least have some restraints when his inner dog comes out. Worse, Brian completely vanishes after this not showing up at the funeral arrangement or getting called out by any of the family members. In short, Brian's presence in this episode can be chalked up as just being a DiabolousExMachina.
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* fluffything: To prove not everything pre-revival was a classic, we have the Season 1 episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS1E7BrianPortraitOfADog Brian: Portrait of a Dog]]", which shows the dog's Marty Stu tendencies went as far back as the first season. Why? Well, at first, the episode starts out great with Brian feeling Peter doesn't respect him and Peter also feeling Brian doesn't appreciate him causing the former to run away. But, then it goes completely downhill after Brian runs away and we are subjected to many many parallels to the 1960s "Civil Rights" movements. No, just, no. It's a bad comparison for many reasons. First, equating a dog's (albeit a human-level intelligent one) problems with "leash laws" to the "Jim Crow" laws is just insulting on so many levels I don't know where to begin. Second, the indignities that minorities had to endure were far worse than Brian not being allowed to drink at a fountain or having to wear a leash for his own protection. And, finally, the parallel just doesn't work because most dogs in the series are realistic animal-minded dogs (About the only dogs in ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' that are of human level intelligence are Brian, New Brian (deceased), Jasper, and the Griffin's old dog Todd. This isn't Brian asking for equal rights for his species. This is Brian complaining about not being treated "special" because he's a talking dog.

* Tropers/{{ading}}: "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS4E4DontMakeMeOver Don't Make me Over]]", in which Meg gets a makeover. It's not the height of the show's offensiveness, but in the episode, two people commit suicide upon seeing how ugly Meg is. She wins a contest to turn an ugly woman into "someone of value to society". So she gets the makeover, and the only noticeable difference afterwards is that she has blonde hair and blue eyelids. Remember, kids, it doesn't matter what else you do, if you have brown hair, you're a mind-blowingly ugly abomination! After Peter sees her with the makeover, he says "I always thought you were beauti-" and then bursts out laughing, unable to say it with a straight face, despite telling her she was beautiful before she got the makeover in the same episode. Meg gets AcquiredSituationalNarcissism from the makeover, and is eventually forced to have it undone. She is actually glad to be "ugly" again, because she feels it was too much work being beautiful. Lois (who up until then had spent the episode trying to comfort her), when she hears this, replies "Not for me, hunny". I don't know what the writers were thinking when they wrote this.

* EmilLang1000: "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS6E11TheFormerLifeOfBrian The Former Life of Brian]]". The entire episode. Brian finds out he has a son who is older than he is, which is questioned all of once in the episode and then just taken at face-value from then on - this alone is annoying, but the episode sports perhaps the most egregious example of an OverlyLongGag in ''Family Guy'' history (the reigning king of said trope, at that) which itself isn't very funny to begin with, the whole episode is just bland and unfunny, it's rife with [[CutAwayGag gags]], Brian is completely out of character, ends in an {{Asspull}}-y and anticlimactic way... while there's nothing absurdly or particularly offensive about the episode, the thing as a whole is basically just a prime example of everything that's gone wrong with ''Family Guy'' since the revival and is generally just one of the laziest-written episodes in the show's history.

** Tropers/{{iheartmountains}}: Brian being shunned for his atheism was a bit funny as a TakeThat at religious intolerance (although the intent was probably to make the audience sympathize with Brian); as was Meg being portrayed as a typical zealous but misguided Christian teen (too bad the TheFundamentalist stereotype is clearly how ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'''s writers view all Christians). Initially, the episode's overall premise seemed decent, but I lost hope right around the "Worse than Hitler!" bit. Gah, lame. The peak of the episode's awfulness, though, was when Brian tried to explain why Meg's stab at religion was misguided and atheism is more logical. Sweet baby Jebus, worst argument for atheism I've ever heard. A loving God would've created Meg beautiful, and that disproves His existence? Not only did Brian objectify Meg by not for a moment entertaining the thought that her character could be more important than and compensate for her ugliness, but how is it God's fault that Meg is fat? And blaming God for her genetics, too? Fuck, this Christian troper could've come up with a way better argument for atheism. Also, as Grimace noted, the subplot with Stewie meeting the cast from ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' was easily funnier than anything else in the episode. I especially liked Picard's lines. If only they'd scrapped the shitty main plot and stuck with that.

* Tropers/KashimaKitty: Of the {{Flanderization}} among the cast, the one that angers this long time ''Family Guy'' viewer the most is Lois. Whatever happened to the caring mother who went so far to give her daughter a decent spring break? The one who sicced Quagmire on the popular kids at that party? The episode that really pulls this to it's peak is "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS7E13StewRoids Stew-Roids]]" where Meg's lunch consists of an orange peel, the crusts from Chris' sandwich, and a photo of Lois eating a turkey leg with the most disgustingly smug smile on her face. Later that same episode, in a rather cold tone of voice, she hands her daughter a bottle of pills and a [[DrivenToSuicide Sylvia Plath book]] and says "I'm gonna look away, and whatever happens, happens." I know Meg's the ButtMonkey, but this is going too far.

* Tropers/{{Pagannerd}}: From "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS8E13GoStewieGo Go Stewie Go]]" where Meg dates "A completely normal boy!", when Lois, who in the past has always tried to be a good mother who looks out for her children, undergoes the final step of her devolution into a [=jerkass=] by seducing her daughter's boyfriend, and then, when caught, claiming that he was raping her.
** acidxbel: What really got me is the incredulity at Meg ever having a normal guy, and just how plain fucked up their relationship was - all because she's considered ugly. Meanwhile, Peter gets Lois, and Quagmire gets... a lot of people.

* Tropers/{{Ipdf3}}: The "[[Recap/FamilyS8E17BrianAndStewie Brian & Stewie]]" episode. You know the one. Brian gets locked in a vault with Stewie and what follows are the most unwatchable "humor scenes" in history. The only humor in that episode appears to be quite a few minutes of Stewie telling Brian to eat his poop and then Brian actually doing it. There were no laughs to be found in the entire first half of the episode. However, the serious scenes should have saved it, right? They should have, but they felt too out of character. Brian has been occasionally unhappy but never showed signs of depression or suicidal thinking. And the last part, where Brian and Stewie admit they love each other after having spent the entire first half of the episode abusing each other, just felt forced. Bottom line: no humor and a very hollow emotional theme. Please ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', stick to what you do best: raunchy offensive humor, not mediocre poop jokes and soap opera dramatics.

* flashsucks: The HalloweenEpisode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS9E4HalloweenOnSpoonerStreet Halloween on Spooner Street]]" became proof that the writers have completely forgotten about what the characters ued to be. If [[EnfantTerrible Stewie from season 1]] got his bag of candy stolen, he would have probably just whipped out his ray gun and incinerated those kids. This Stewie, a.k.a [[CampGay Gay Stewie]], acts completely helpless and goes to Brian for help -- and actually considers killing those boys to be too much. The same character who once kidnapped and tortured a seven year old for stealing his bike acts like that over this? Come the fuck on!

** Flan Master of Redrum: Personally, I just thought the entire episode sucked! For an episode that has an interesting premise (a Christian mother revealing that she was a porno actress to a news anchor, who soon reveals the secret to all of Quahog), the jokes just fell flat on their ass, the BreakingTheFourthWall joke just makes me want to groan in pure disappointment, and, wouldn't you believe it, Brian helps out someone in the family once again. Oh, but wait, turns out another AuthorAvatar in Peter gives his two cents on his shit as well.
* gongoroth: The biggest [=DMOS=] for me is in "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS9E10FriendsOfPeterG Friends of Peter G.]]". After Brian makes a passing comment about how people 'were fine for thousands of years without religion,' we see a few peaceful BC-era characters suddenly begin killing each other at the announcement of Jesus' birth. Although the show has got plenty of biased / hateful / generalizing attempts at humor such as this, this in particular is a [=DMOS=] because it suggests [=MacFarlane=]'s vast ignorance (or else, inexcusable carelessness) on not one but two ideas. First, it implies that there had been no war before Christianity. I would say you could read the Bible to find out that's false, only I thought it was completely common knowledge that war has existed since practically the beginning of humanity. Secondly, it's almost as if the show is actually saying there was no religion before Jesus. If [=MacFarlane=] has ever so much as heard of the Ancient Egyptians, Greek mythology, and mainly, Judaism, he should know far better than to assert Jesus' birth as the beginning of religion. Despite the many cheap shots at religion on this show, this one felt the most pitifully ignorant and/or misinformed - far beyond justification.

** Tropers/LLSmoothJ: Yes! Dear god, yes! At the end of the episode, I thought that after going through what [[ASharedSuffering they've put themselves through that night]] all for petty revenge they would find a new found respect for each other as the realized that they were NotSoDifferent. Instead, Quagmire commits what's basically murder with a smirk on his face. I mean sure I enjoyed Quagmire's TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Brian (Let's be honest, [[AuthorAvatar he]] did have it coming), but [[MoralEventHorizon enough is enough]]!

* Tropers/{{anoni}}: "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS10E2SeahorseSeashellParty Seahorse Seashell Party]]" turned out to be one. I was excited for it since Meg finally stands up to her family. She does, but guess what happens? Brian convinces Meg that she's the only thing keeping the family together. That's right, apparently constantly abusing Meg is the only thing that keeps the Griffin family from killing each other. So what happens next? Meg apologizes and says she was just taking her problems out on everyone, she returns to being a chew toy, and nothing fucking changes. Meg had nothing to apologize for. Between that, and Brian's [[NightmareFuel mushroom induced acid trips]], this became the worst of the 3 hurricane episodes aired.

* Tropers/{{GavsEvans123}}: From "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS10E17ForgetMeNot Forget-Me-Not]]", Lois snapping at the kids after Peter and Brian go on a night out that "all of the good people are gone." The writers flat out admitted that they don't care for four of the show's six main characters, and the only ones they do like are Peter and Brian, the Marty Stu and AuthorAvatar that get by far the most hate on this page.

** Flan Master of Redrum: Personally, I just thought the entire episode sucked! For an episode that has an interesting premise (a Christian mother revealing that she was a porno actress to a news anchor, who soon reveals the secret to all of Quahog), the jokes just fell flat on their ass, the BreakingTheFourthWall joke just makes me want to groan in pure disappointment, and, wouldn't you believe it, Brian helps out someone in the family once again. Oh, but wait, turns out another AuthorAvatar in Peter gives his two cents on his shit as well. Can we just say that Peter's freakin' MarySue 2.0 of ''Family Guy'' here?

* fluffything: To prove not everything pre-revival was a classic, we have the Season 1 episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS1E7BrianPortraitOfADog Brian: Portrait of a Dog]]", which shows the dog's BlackHoleSue tendencies went as far back as the first season. Why? Well, at first, the episode starts out great with Brian feeling Peter doesn't respect him and Peter also feeling Brian doesn't appreciate him causing the former to run away. But, then it goes completely downhill after Brian runs away and we are subjected to many many parallels to the 1960s "Civil Rights" movements. No, just, no. It's a bad comparison for many reasons. First, equating a dog's (albeit a human-level intelligent one) problems with "leash laws" to the "Jim Crow" laws is just insulting on so many levels I don't know where to begin. Second, the indignities that minorities had to endure were far worse than Brian not being allowed to drink at a fountain or having to wear a leash for his own protection. And, finally, the parallel just doesn't work because most dogs in the series are realistic animal-minded dogs (About the only dogs in ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' that are of human level intelligence are Brian, New Brian (deceased), Jasper, and the Griffin's old dog Todd. This isn't Brian asking for equal rights for his species. This is Brian complaining about not being treated "special" because he's a talking dog.

* Tropers/{{ading}}: "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS4E4DontMakeMeOver Don't Make me Over]]", in which Meg gets a makeover. It's not the height of the show's offensiveness, but it's the point where the CharacterDerailment started to set in. In the episode, two people commit suicide upon seeing how ugly Meg is. She wins a contest to turn an ugly woman into "someone of value to society". So she gets the makeover, and the only noticeable difference afterwards is that she has blonde hair and blue eyelids. Remember, kids, it doesn't matter what else you do, if you have brown hair, you're a mind-blowingly ugly abomination! After Peter sees her with the makeover, he says "I always thought you were beauti-" and then bursts out laughing, unable to say it with a straight face, despite telling her she was beautiful before she got the makeover in the same episode. Meg gets AcquiredSituationalNarcissism from the makeover, and is eventually forced to have it undone. She is actually glad to be "ugly" again, because she feels it was too much work being beautiful. Lois (who up until then had spent the episode trying to comfort her), when she hears this, replies "Not for me, hunny". I don't know what the writers were thinking when they wrote this.

* EmilLang1000: "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS6E11TheFormerLifeOfBrian The Former Life of Brian]]". The entire episode. Brian finds out he has a son who is older than he is, which is questioned all of once in the episode and then just taken at face-value from then on - this alone is annoying, but the episode sports perhaps the most egregious example of an OverlyLongGag in ''Family Guy'' history (the reigning king of said trope, at that) which itself isn't very funny to begin with, the whole episode is just bland and unfunny, it's rife with [[CutAwayGag gags]], Brian's CharacterDerailment is in full force here, ends in an {{Asspull}}-y and anticlimactic way... while there's nothing absurdly or particularly offensive about the episode, the thing as a whole is basically just a prime example of everything that's gone wrong with ''Family Guy'' since the revival and is generally just one of the laziest-written episodes in the show's history.

** Tropers/{{iheartmountains}}: Brian being shunned for his atheism was a bit funny as a TakeThat at religious intolerance (although the intent was probably to establish Brian as a SympatheticSue); as was Meg being portrayed as a typical zealous but misguided Christian teen (too bad the TheFundamentalist stereotype is clearly how ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'''s writers view all Christians). Initially, the episode's overall premise seemed decent, but I lost hope right around the "Worse than Hitler!" bit. Gah, lame. The peak of the episode's awfulness, though, was when Brian tried to explain why Meg's stab at religion was misguided and atheism is more logical. Sweet baby Jebus, worst argument for atheism I've ever heard. A loving God would've created Meg beautiful, and that disproves His existence? Not only did Brian objectify Meg by not for a moment entertaining the thought that her character could be more important than and compensate for her ugliness, but how is it God's fault that Meg is fat? And blaming God for her genetics, too? Fuck, this Christian troper could've come up with a way better argument for atheism. Also, as Grimace noted, the subplot with Stewie meeting the cast from ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' was easily funnier than anything else in the episode. I especially liked Picard's lines. If only they'd scrapped the shitty main plot and stuck with that.

* Tropers/KashimaKitty: Of the {{Flanderization}} and CharacterDerailment among the cast, the one that angers this long time ''Family Guy'' viewer the most is Lois. Whatever happened to the caring mother who went so far to give her daughter a decent spring break? The one who sicked Quagmire on the popular kids at that party? The episode that really pulls this to it's peak is "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS7E13StewRoids Stew-Roids]]" where Meg's lunch consists of an orange peel, the crusts from Chris' sandwich, and a photo of Lois eating a turkey leg with the most disgustingly smug smile on her face. Later that same episode, in a rather cold tone of voice, she hands her daughter a bottle of pills and a [[DrivenToSuicide Sylvia Plath book]] and says "I'm gonna look away, and whatever happens, happens." I know Meg's the ButtMonkey, but this is going too far.

* Tropers/{{Pagannerd}}: From "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS8E13GoStewieGo Go Stewie Go]]" where Meg dates "A completely normal boy!", when Lois, who in the past has always tried to be a good mother who looks out for her children, undergoes the final step of her [=jerkass=] CharacterDerailment by seducing her daughter's boyfriend, and then, when caught, claiming that he was raping her.
** acidxbel: What really shat me is the incredulity that Meg could ever have a normal guy, and just how plain fucked up their relationship was - all because she's considered ugly. Meanwhile, Peter gets Lois, and Quagmire gets... a lot of people.

* Tropers/{{Ipdf3}}: The "[[Recap/FamilyS8E17BrianAndStewie Brian & Stewie]]" episode. You know the one. Brian gets locked in a vault with Stewie and what follows are the most unwatchable "humor scenes" in history. The only humor in that episode appears to be quite a few minutes of Stewie telling Brian to eat his poop and then Brian actually doing it. There were no laughs to be found in the entire first half of the episode. However, the serious scenes should have saved it, right? It should have, but it felt too much like CharacterDerailment. Brian has been occasionally unhappy but never showed signs of depression or suicidal thinking. And the last part, where Brian and Stewie admit they love each other after having spent the entire first half of the episode abusing each other, just felt forced. Bottom line: no humor and a very hollow emotional theme. Please ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'', stick to what you do best: raunchy offensive humor, not mediocre poop jokes and soap opera dramatics.

** Tropers/CrazyLuigi: I didn't like that joke either, but the DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck in that episode was the ending. A random old man says that he finally got down the perfect dirty joke, and then he suddenly dies due to a heart attack or something like that. Peter then steals his dirty joke and bargains with the Secret Order of Dirty Joke Writers: Peter and his friends leave and in exchange, they hand the group the perfect dirty joke. Peter then burns down the club, killing thousands of people in the process... and the perfect joke was "Guess what? Chicken butt!" That was not only a poor joke that ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'''s Buckley did about ten or so years earlier, but also yet another completely pointless ending where even I could come up with a better naughty joke! Hell, I bet you that even the Secret Order of Dirty Joke Writers wouldn't like it.

* flashsucks: The HalloweenEpisode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS9E4HalloweenOnSpoonerStreet Halloween on Spooner Street]]" became proof that [[CharacterDerailment the writers have completely forgotten about the characters]]. If [[EnfantTerrible Stewie from season 1]] got his bag of candy stolen, he would have probably just whipped out his ray gun and incinerated those kids. This Stewie, a.k.a [[CampGay Gay Stewie]], acts completely helpless and goes to Brian for help -- and actually considers killing those boys to be too much. The same character who once kidnapped and tortured a seven year old for stealing his bike acts like that over this? Come the fuck on!

** Flan Master of Redrum: Personally, I just thought the entire episode sucked! For an episode that has an interesting premise (a Christian mother revealing that she was a porno actress to a news anchor, who soon reveals the secret to all of Quahog), the jokes just fell flat on their ass, the BreakingTheFourthWall joke just makes me want to groan in pure disappointment, and, wouldn't you believe it, the BlackHoleSue Brian helps out someone in the family once again. Oh, but wait, turns out another AuthorAvatar in Peter gives his two cents on his shit as well. Can we just say that Peter's freakin' MarySue 2.0 of ''Family Guy'' here?

** Tropers/LLSmoothJ: Yes! Dear god, yes! At the end of the episode, I thought that after going through what [[ASharedSuffering they've put themselves through that night]] all for petty revenge they would find a new found respect for each other as the realized that they were NotSoDifferent. Instead, Quagmire commits what's basically murder with a smirk on his face. I mean sure I enjoyed Quagmire's TheReasonYouSuckSpeech to Brian (Let's be honest, [[AuthorAvatar he]] did [[BlackHoleSue have it coming]]), but [[MoralEventHorizon enough is enough]]!

* Tropers/{{anoni}}: "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS10E2SeahorseSeashellParty Seahorse Seashell Party]]" turned out to be one. I was excited for it since Meg finally stands up to her family. She does, but guess what happens? [[BlackHoleSue Brian]] convinces Meg that she's the only thing keeping the family together. That's right, apparently constantly abusing Meg is the only thing that keeps the Griffin family from killing each other. So what happens next? Meg apologizes and says she was just taking her problems out on everyone, she returns to being a chew toy, and nothing fucking changes. Meg had nothing to apologize for. Between that, and Brian's [[NightmareFuel mushroom induced acid trips]], this became the worst of the 3 hurricane episodes aired.

* Tropers/{{GavsEvans123}}: From "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS10E17ForgetMeNot Forget-Me-Not]]", Lois snapping at the kids after Peter and Brian go on a night out that "all of the good people are gone." The writers flat out admitted that they don't care for four of the show's six main characters, and the only ones they do like are Peter and Brian, the MarySue and AuthorAvatar that get by far the most hate on this page.

*** {{notahandle}}: I've seen the gag, it's even worse as the Vietnamese man looks like [[IdenticalLookingAsians the other East-Asian characters that were and will be on the show.]]

** {{CapriciousSamon}}: I was on the fence as to changing my DMOS from "Trump Guy" to "Mom's the Word" until I got introduced to this episode. I liked the plot of the episode and I thought I'd give it a watch, and I found it's a super lazy version of "Brian Wallows and Peter Swallows", easily one of the Top 5 worst of the modern seasons. The worst moment of the episode has to be where Brian lists the old woman's super long last name instead of just "her name is Pip Onassis but she has hundreds of other last names." It's not Daenerys Targayean where she has a dozen names, it takes like a minute and a half. And then Stewie repeats it. And then they have to hear people sing Happy Birthday to her while saying her super long last name, and the only animation being the door moving. Apparently the wiki says it's a Monty Python reference, but it just reads like they didn't know how to make the plot work, so they just gave us this. The Mysterious Mr. Enter says that modern FG has a problem with "Dad Noises" jokes where they just have a boring anti-humor joke go on and on to burn a minute of screen-time. It's annoying when Peter spends a minute trying to open a can of spinach, but it makes me angered when it happens here. It's on the level of [[Hypocrite Peter in "Trump Guy" deriding Bob's Burgers for having shitty animation, despite the fact he's not one to talk.]]

** Tropers/CapriciousSalmon: For me, Trump Guy is my least favorite episode of the show overall. Why? Because it's incredibly boring and they took the most obvious route with the story, when there was a ton of more plot threads to do. Family Guy used to be the type of show where, even if they didn't like somebody, they wouldn't just state why, they'd show why. Or even if the politician they didn't like was the subject of the story, they weren't the main focus: in Rush Limbaugh's episode, it's about Brian, not Rush. But that's how the episode ends: the family just sits at home to break the fourth wall and tell me about Trump and why they don't like him. It was incredibly lazy. Honestly, this should've been an American Dad plot, not a Family Guy plot, there's way more potential on that show.

"My name is Cleveland Brown, [[WesternAnimation/TheClevelandShow and I am here to say]], [[DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck all of these moments are]] [[{{Cancellation}} why my show went away~"]]

* Tropers/JBarefoot1992: I'm actually surprised no one has mentioned the episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS3E19StuckTogetherTornApart Stuck Together Torn Apart]]" yet. Now, don't get me wrong, the episode itself is not really bad, I mean, both the Peter/Lois and especially the Brian/Stewie stories were actually quite good and the episode itself had a very decent amount of memorable jokes but two specific moments that I absolutely hated and that I consider to be the beginning of the downfall of the show are often overlooked here, which are the moment where Meg Griffin gets smashed by a piano due to her mother being surprised to see one of her ex-boyfriends with Meg herself asking anyone to help her and no one paying the slightest attention to her suffering and the other one for me, being the actual beginning of the downfall of the series which involves Lois Griffin reading a very private piece of Meg's diary to the whole family with everyone laughing at it and even after Meg showed up quite devastated by what her family and especially, her mother did, her father just says: "Keep going", as if nothing happened. Now this moment in particular really enervates me a lot because this, for me, was the moment when Family Guy officially started giving up on any kind of standards they had up until that point and from there on, it only got worse and worse. This was pretty much the moment Lois Griffin ceased to be a fairly decent yet with a bit of edge moments and Peter started to become the lousy, ubnoxious father he would later become as the series continued, not to mention the fact that her entire family took part on that. All this for me, counts as the first real dethroning moment of suck and from then on, things only fot worse and worse, especially a few episodes after the revival with Season 4, more specifically after "Petarded" but that's another story and some tropers have already talked about it.

* Tropers/JBarefoot1992: I'm actually surprised no one has mentioned the episode "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS3E19StuckTogetherTornApart]]" yet. Now, don't get me wrong, the episode itself is not really bad, I mean, both the Peter/Lois and especially the Brian/Stewie stories were actually quite good and the episode itself had a very decent amount of memorable jokes but two specific moments that I absolutely hated and that I consider to be the beginning of the downfall of the show are often overlooked here, which are the moment where Meg Griffin gets smashed by a piano due to her mother being surprised to see one of her ex-boyfriends with Meg herself asking anyone to help her and no one paying the slightest attention to her suffering and the other one for me, being the actual beginning of the downfall of the series which involves Lois Griffin reading a very private piece of Meg's diary to the whole family with everyone laughing at it and even after Meg showed up quite devastated by what her family and especially, her mother did, her father just says: "Keep going", as if nothing happened. Now this moment in particular really enervates me a lot because this, for me, was the moment when Family Guy officially started giving up on any kind of standards they had up until that point and from there on, it only got worse and worse. This was pretty much the moment Lois Griffin ceased to be a fairly decent yet with a bit of edge moments and Peter started to become the lousy, ubnoxious father he would later become as the series continued, not to mention the fact that her entire family took part on that. All this for me, counts as the first real dethroning moment of suck and from then on, things only fot worse and worse, especially a few episodes after the revival with Season 4, more specifically after "Petarded" but that's another story and some tropers have already talked about it.

* Tropers/KukuInkblot: As a whole, I find ''Family Guy'' kind of tasteless, but "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS6E9BackToTheWoods Back to the Woods]]" just stands out with me. The one where Peter switches lives with Creator/JamesWoods and goes on Letterman to promote "his" new movie. A comedy about [[TooSoon 9/11]] with David Spade as the airplane. That's when I stopped watching the show completely.

* Tropers/MetalAiAi: "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS15E20AHouseFullOfPeters A House Full Of Peters]]" was a good episode overall, barring a single YankTheDogsChain moment that comes out of nowhere. Meg meets someone who looks exactly like her, who turns out to be a Russian clone who takes her place [[DroppedABridgeOnHim after the real one is sniped]]. Being Family Guy, [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment this was never spoken of again]], but this leaves the lingering feeling that [[ButtMonkey Meg]] was KilledOffForReal, [[HopeSpot just when it looked like life were getting more easy on her]]. Not to mention, [[TooSoon considering the possible relations between President Trump and Russia being common news around the time the episode aired]], this made me more nervous about a possible second Cold War.

* CodaFett: I would like to add ''[[Recap/FamilyGuyS16E18HTTPete HTTPete]]'' for being the most out of touch and bitter look at "millennials" (actually a mishmash of at least 3 different generations) I have ever seen. The episode starts off on an absurd note with an instructional video about Millennials and the things they do, which is rife with young people stereotypes presented without a hint of irony and a new character is introduced who exists to be a strawman. Not even five minutes into the episode, it is abundantly clear that not only are the writers showing their age with they also very clearly don't know what they're even talking about. First of all, Millenials are predominantly in their 30s, and the youngest ones than that would be around 25 at the time of airing. For some bizarre reason, the FamGuy crew set their made up cut off date to the year 2000, which is 5 years into Gen Z. The character Hammer is more a hipster than anything else. Yeah a hipster, when's the last time you heard about one those? Then you got jokes about angry tweeting and cancel culture which just screams "I don't like that I can be held accountable for saying something offensive." But all that isn't nearly as bad as one particular jab; During a cutaway gag featuring some really weird, niche imagery that you just know someone on the team ''thinks'' millenials are big on, Peter says "Our country's involved in 6 wars right now, but this is what Millenials think about!" insinuating that all we care about are hedonistic distractions. I'm actually in the military and that joke bugs the hell out of me because 20-30 year olds, the people you're mocking, are the ones out there fighting in these places. What an ignorant thing to imply, also hypocritical because as seen in the above mentioned episode, FamGuy writers aren't big fans of Social Justice culture so you're also not allowed to be involved in politics if you're one of those damn Millenials. And that's not even getting into the paper thin plot. Just a shitshow of an episode.

* Tropers/{{Jamilee}}: "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS8E1RoadToTheMultiverse Road to the Multiverse]]". Specifically the part where Stewie and Brian traveled to the universe where Christianity never existed. By now I am used to ''Family Guy'''s constant and relentless gabs at religion, but this one goes beyond just bashing Christianity. In that particular universe Stewie and Brian observed that universe's Meg, looking more like a Playboy model than the supposedly unattractive teen we all know. She was dressed provocatively in a micromini skirt and tube top with her 36D breasts hanging out. Since I sincerely doubt that just not having a religion would make people be automatically born more conventionally 'attractive', that would imply that women in that universe routinely alter their bodies to be more attractive to men. If "making women walking sex objects is the 'perfect' universe" is not a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop, I don't know what is.

** Tropers/WaterMagician: I generally don't mind ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' but the FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that it is ok to sexually harass someone if you are sexually frustrated is just awful. I really didn't like this episode for that reason and it is one of a very few that I refuse to watch.

** redjirachi: I hate this episode more than any other because of [[FridgeHorror what it says about the writers.]] They are aware of the complaints about the show, and giving how devastated the Griffins were, they know that they're valid. They could have very easily used this to write Meg out, which would be a quick and easy way for Seth to deal with his inability to write teenage girls (and the reason why she became such a tortured ButtMonkey in the first place). They could've easily set this up for [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap making the Griffins likeable again]], by having them have to deal with [[HeelRealization their faults]] instead of deflecting it on Meg. But they don't. What could have very well be the post-revival's SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome instead becomes one of [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop the most offensive aesops I've ever seen.]] The fact that they knew [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop what]] we [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy considered]] [[SadistShow wrong]] with the show yet kept StatusQuoIsGod while attempting to justify it shows they have no intention of bettering ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy''. Not because they can't (as mentioned above, they very nearly did), or because they were afraid of losing money (making ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' a better show would boost sales), but that doesn't matter because [[MoneyDearBoy they're still rich.]] And that's the best case scenario. The worst case? [[FridgeHorror They think]] [[UnfortunateImplications it's]] [[NightmareFuel funny!]] If a show could pass the MoralEventHorizon, then this episode is an example. After all, how can you possibly redeem ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' if it outright defies the best possible method of salvaging the show?!
** Tropers/{{LunaVeg87}} -What gets me the most about this episode is not just its FamilyUnfriendlyAesop at the resolution (which I've said elsewhere is the equivalent of telling a woman whose husband verbally abuses her every day and gives her a crack in the mouth every night that she needs to stay with him because he'll fall apart without her [[ThereAreNoTherapists (because for some reason, her leaving the guy, and him seeking out help for his own issues like an adult is out of the question)]] and not to mention [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender shows]] and [[Literature/{{Matilda}} literal media]] for [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids children]] have been able to pull off the message of "it's okay to leave toxic people who just happen to be your flesh and blood), but also the fact that this episode came right before the episode where Quagmire tries to get his sister out of a relationship with her abusive boyfriend. Kind of a mixed message; almost like the writers are saying: [[CaptainObvious "being an abusive asshole is bad,]] [[BrokenAesop but only]] [[ProtagonistCenteredMorality if you're not the main character."]] I mean, there's apathetic writing, there's bad writing, and then there's... this. From this point on, any attempt to do a "Meg's a bitch" episode (which, surprise surprise, they did a season or two late) just smacks of hollowness.

** Rosebud64: The writers seemed to give Meg the love she deserved. So much for that. They could have give her a little more respect since that episode, but no, she had to go back to herself by the end. Because StatusQuoIsGod. And before you say "but that episode had AnAesop with BeYourself!" remember that it becomes a FamilyUnfriendlyAesop if this is just a lame excuse to put the character through shit.

* Tropers/DanTheEnigma: "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS4E15BrianGoesBackToCollege Brian Goes Back to College]]". Don't get me wrong. I like this episode for the most part. There's one thing that really pisses me off though. At the very end of the episode, Brian ends up failing his test that would've meant that he graduated and he says that despite failing, he has his pride because he didn't cheat. Now that's a nice FamilyUnfriendlyAesop to end a pretty funny episode. What does the family do? They, no pun intended, KickTheDog. They completely shoot down Brian's statement and say that he actually should have cheated! I do realize that Brian is an AuthorAvatar, but c'mon! You could've at least given him this instead of having the main family act like one giant {{Jerkass}}.

** Tropers/{{danjorw1}} I believe this was the episode in which Stewie competed (in drag) in a beauty pageant. Stewie makes a snarky joke about ending up like [=JonBenét=] Ramsey. For those not privy, she was a 6-year-old beauty pageant contestant who was brutally murdered in her home on Christmas Day in 1996 and whose murder still remains unsolved. That was utterly tasteless and disrespect to the victim and her family. What the hell are they thinking? I know it has been a while since it happened, but that is no excuse. And it's losing sane viewers because the writers making light of seriously tragic events worth making a few possible weirdos laugh at poorly thought out jokes.

* Wrybread: "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS10E3ScreamsOFSilenceTheStoryOfBrendaQ Screams of Silence: The Story of Brenda Q.]]" What especially got to me was the poorly researched portrayal of police complaints and domestic abuse. Joe-a cop-says that the police can't do anything unless Brenda registers a complaint. While it's true that in most domestic abuse cases there's little that can be done unless the victim is willing to testify, that's because most abuse happens entirely behind closed doors, with no one to witness it besides the victim. Without the victim's testimony there's no way prosecutors could begin building a case so charges can't be pressed. In this case, Jeff has been abusive in full view of at least four people, one a cop, all of whom could testify that they saw him assault Brenda and thus build a case. At the very least, Joe could arrest Jeff for assault and detain him while they did the intervention for Brenda. I realize this would be less dramatic, but if you're going to do a dramatic episode about a serious issue, you get your facts right.

** Tropers/{{danjorw1}} I believe this was the episode in which Stewie competed (in drag) in a beauty pageant. Stewie makes a snarky joke about ending up like [=JonBenét=] Ramsey. For those not privy, she was a 6-year-old beauty pageant contestant who was brutally murdered in her home on Christmas Day in 1996 and whose murder still remains unsolved. That was utterly tasteless and disrespect to the victim and her family. What the hell are they thinking? I know it has been a while since it happened, but that is no excuse. And it's losing sane viewers because the writers making light of seriously tragic events worth making a few possible weirdos laugh at poorly thought out jokes.

* Tropers/NTroper: The one scene that cemented Carter's status as a {{Jerkass}}: The scene in "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS5E16NoChrisLeftBehind No Chris Left Behind]]" where he [[KickTheDog went to a local orphanage, picked out a kid, filled out all the paperwork, and then didn't took him home. While taunting the orphan kid from inside the car packed with toys and a puppy. Just for fun]]. And to add insult to injury, he stated just before that scene that he does it every month. That's just cruel. Nothing else, just cruel. [[LamarckWasRight Any wonders on why Lois became such a]] BitchInSheepsClothing [[LamarckWasRight recently (Besides all the crap she has to put up with regarding Peter)?]]

** Tropers/{{danjorw1}} I believe this was the episode in which Stewie competed (in drag) in a beauty pageant. Stewie makes a snarky joke about ending up like JonBenét Ramsey. For those not privy, she was a 6-year-old beauty pageant contestant who was brutally murdered in her home on Christmas Day in 1996 and whose murder still remains unsolved. That was utterly tasteless and disrespect to the victim and her family. What the hell are they thinking? I know it has been a while since it happened, but that is no excuse. And it's losing sane viewers because the writers making light of seriously tragic events worth making a few possible weirdos laugh at poorly thought out jokes.

** Tropers/{{danjorw1}} I believe this was the episode in which Stewie competed (in drag) in a beauty pageant. Stewie makes a snarky joke about ending up like Jonbenet Ramsey. For those not privy, Jonbenet was a 6 year old beauty pageant contestant who was brutally murdered in her home on Christmas Day nearly sixteen years ago and whose murder still remains unsolved. That was utterly tasteless and disrespect to the victim and her family. What the hell are they thinking? I know it has been a while since it happened, but that is no excuse. And it's losing sane viewers because the writers making light of seriously tragic events worth making a few possible weirdos laugh at poorly thought out jokes.

** Skullsnsouls: For me, this was the moment where I just said: "Fuck it. I'm done with this fucking show. The prank call Stewie did on Moe was bad enough, it had me teetering on the brink of quitting the show; but then they go and pull that dick move on Meg. For fuck's sake can you just let Meg have something in her life she enjoys and is talented at for once? Oh wait why am I asking, the answer is no. Meg is forever doomed to be miserable and suicidal for the rest of her life. Because we're supposed to laugh at her misery. Fuck. This. Show."

* Tropers/{{Emmz}}: I have a lot of hated episodes, and a lot of them have already been mentioned here before, so I'm just going to add an episode that hasn't been talked about: "This Little Piggy", the episode where Meg becomes a foot fetish model. I haven't actually watched the full thing but I've seen clips of it on [=YouTube=]. It looks like a run-of-the-mill mediocre Family Guy episode in itself, but what's really rubbing me the wrong way about this episode is the BrokenAesop in obvious full effect. Peter and Lois are angry after finding out Meg is doing foot fetish modeling and forbid her from doing. She tries to ignore them, but they eventually get her to quit with a "heartfelt speech" about how much "they love her". Maybe this would be a good moral on how you shouldn't degrade yourself to partaking in porn to make yourself beautiful, but definitely on ''any'' show other than Family Guy and ''any'' character other than Lois and Peter. Remember, this moral is coming from the woman who has done a porno in the 80's and has tried to rape her husband on a couple of occasions and from the man who has been implied to be a ''pedophile'', not to mention they have no problem with Meg's other acts of sexual deviancy throughout the show and don't do anything to stop her from those, and yet they have the nerve to preach about how disgusting it is for her partake in a slightly weird body part fetish? That's like having Jason Voorhees teach you about gun safety or Hannibal Lecter telling you to go vegan. Also they have no say in what is best for Meg since they've done nothing but treat her like shit throughout the previous seasons: from Lois encouraging Meg to commit suicide, to Lois eating her school lunch and leaving her with bread crusts and orange rinds, from them both laughing at her diary, to Peter farting on Meg constantly, to Peter throwing away the saxophone Lisa gave her in "The Simpsons Guy". And who's to say that they're not just going to go back to abusing her because they've always gone back to doing it after every single "heartwarming family moment" they have with her. Meg has every right to not forgive her parents and should've just told them to fuck off at this point. She even lampshades this when about to leave for the party, but [[EasilyForgiven still forgives them]] because StatusQuoIsGod. Honestly, fuck Lois and Peter. They're both the reason why this show is so terrible nowadays and having them be hypocritical manipulative scumbags only adds onto it.

* Tropers/{{Emmz}}: I have a lot of hated episodes, and a lot of them have already been mentioned here before, so I'm just going to add an episode that hasn't been talked about: "This Little Piggy", the episode where Meg becomes a foot fetish model. I haven't actually watched the full thing but I've seen clips of it on [=YouTube=]. It looks like a run-of-the-mill mediocre Family Guy episode in itself, but what's really rubbing me the wrong way about this episode is the BrokenAesop in obvious full effect. Peter and Lois are angry after finding out Meg is doing foot fetish modeling and forbid her from doing. She tries to ignore them, but they eventually get her to quit with a "heartfelt speech" about how much "they love her". Maybe this would be a good moral on how you shouldn't degrade yourself to partaking in porn to make yourself beautiful, but definitely on ''any'' show other than Family Guy and ''any'' character other than Lois and Peter. Remember, this moral is coming from the woman who has done a porno in the 80's and has tried to rape her husband on a couple of occasions and from the man who has been implied to be a ''pedophile'', not to mention they have no problem with Meg's other acts of sexual deviancy throughout the show and don't do anything to stop her from those, and yet they have the nerve to preach about how disgusting it is for her partake in a slightly weird body part fetish? That's like having Jason Voorhees teach you about gun safety or Hannibal Lector telling you to go vegan. Also they have no say in what is best for Meg since they've done nothing but treat her like shit throughout the previous seasons: from Lois encouraging Meg to commit suicide, to Lois eating her school lunch and leaving her with bread crusts and orange rinds, from them both laughing at her diary, to Peter farting on Meg constantly, to Peter throwing away the saxophone Lisa gave her in "The Simpsons Guy". And who's to say that they're not just going to go back to abusing her because they've always gone back to doing it after every single "heartwarming family moment" they have with her. Meg has every right to not forgive her parents and should've just told them to fuck off at this point. She even lampshades this when about to leave for the party, but [[EasilyForgiven still forgives them]] because StatusQuoIsGod. Honestly, fuck Lois and Peter. They're both the reason why this show is so terrible nowadays and having them be hypocritical manipulative scumbags only adds onto it.