History Determinator / RealLife

20th Apr '18 9:49:20 PM Stormchaser23
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** Hell, the 2016 World Series was essentially the Cubs and the Cleveland Indians out-Determinating each other. After dropping three of the first four games of the World Series, the Cubs faced elimination in the three remaining games and won every time. And Game 7 deserves special mention. The Cubs got out to an early lead, but some mind-numbingly idiotic pitching decisions helped the Indians get back into the game, and tie it with a soul-crushing two-run homer in the ninth. Unfazed, the Cubs scored two runs in the tenth in the grittiest, most old-school baseball way possible. Even then, the Indians got a run through, and put the winning run at the plate before the Cubs were able to close things down.
17th Apr '18 4:37:16 AM jormis29
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* Bodybuilder Lou Ferrigno, better known as the live action Incredible Hulk (and occasional voice of Hulk in animated or CGI appearances), was born with an 80% hearing loss and grew up with a cynical police officer father who was verbally and emotionally abusive towards him because his father believed Lou could never amount to anything due to his hearing problems and was constantly ragging on him, always telling him that he should just give up and accept the fact that he would never be successful at anything due to his hearing loss and that he should never even bother trying to better himself (which only fueled Lou's drive to become a bodybuilder). And when Lou won the Mr. Universe title his father still criticized him, calling him a misfit who didn't deserve the title while claiming he should have gotten it instead of Lou. Lou would continue to rebel against his father's negativity and continued to pursue his goals, eventually becoming one of the most famous bodybuilders of his time and achieving cult fame for TV's ''The Incredible Hulk''.

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* Bodybuilder Lou Ferrigno, Creator/LouFerrigno, better known as the live action Incredible Hulk (and occasional voice of Hulk in animated or CGI appearances), was born with an 80% hearing loss and grew up with a cynical police officer father who was verbally and emotionally abusive towards him because his father believed Lou could never amount to anything due to his hearing problems and was constantly ragging on him, always telling him that he should just give up and accept the fact that he would never be successful at anything due to his hearing loss and that he should never even bother trying to better himself (which only fueled Lou's drive to become a bodybuilder). And when Lou won the Mr. Universe title his father still criticized him, calling him a misfit who didn't deserve the title while claiming he should have gotten it instead of Lou. Lou would continue to rebel against his father's negativity and continued to pursue his goals, eventually becoming one of the most famous bodybuilders of his time and achieving cult fame for TV's ''The Incredible Hulk''.
19th Mar '18 5:22:41 PM nombretomado
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** This was taken from the motto of the couriers service of the the Achaemenid Empire, which Western audiences might remember from their appearance in ''[[ThreeHundred 300]]''. [[HollywoodHistory They weren't like that.]]

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** This was taken from the motto of the couriers service of the the Achaemenid Empire, which Western audiences might remember from their appearance in ''[[ThreeHundred 300]]''.''Film/ThreeHundred''. [[HollywoodHistory They weren't like that.]]
19th Mar '18 3:33:51 PM N.Harmonik
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* Norwegian author Ingeborg Refling Hagen, who decided to fight UsefulNotes/{{Fascism}} after a visit to Italy in 1925. She became one of the early whistle-blowers against the Nazi regime in the thirties, and come the occupation of Norway, she was on the Nazi death list the day ''after'' invasion. She joined the resistance early on, and was in charge of an illegal newspaper until her arrest in 1942. The Germans really wanted her dead, or sent to Germany, or both. To avoid being executed, or deported, and also dying, she faked insanity, and har herself infected with severe diseases, to make herself so insane and nearly dead that the Germans would give up on her, which they eventually did, and she was freed in 1944, only to fake insanity for everyone who didn`t know her closely for the rest of the war. She reasoned, quite correctly, that the German army [[HonorBeforeReason only shot people who could stand on their feet]]. It was also paramount to keep herself alive, because that would protect other resistance men from being caught. Consider that this woman put the fricking ''Gestapo'' to shame on sheer willpower. After the war, she relentlessly kept her resistance going, and pursued her goals for a better society through enlightenment and cultural activism up to her ninetieth year.

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* Norwegian author Ingeborg Refling Hagen, who decided to fight UsefulNotes/{{Fascism}} after a visit to Italy in 1925. She became one of the early whistle-blowers against the Nazi regime in the thirties, and come the occupation of Norway, she was on the Nazi death list the day ''after'' invasion. She joined the resistance early on, and was in charge of an illegal newspaper until her arrest in 1942. The Germans really wanted her dead, or sent to Germany, or both. To avoid being executed, or deported, and also dying, she faked insanity, and har had herself infected with severe diseases, to make herself so insane and nearly dead that the Germans would give up on her, which they eventually did, and she was freed in 1944, only to fake insanity for everyone who didn`t know her closely for the rest of the war. She reasoned, quite correctly, that the German army [[HonorBeforeReason only shot people who could stand on their feet]]. It was also paramount to keep herself alive, because that would protect other resistance men from being caught. Consider that this woman put the fricking ''Gestapo'' to shame on sheer willpower. After the war, she relentlessly kept her resistance going, and pursued her goals for a better society through enlightenment and cultural activism up to her ninetieth year.
17th Mar '18 8:41:08 PM Premonition45
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* Steve Jobs during the 1990s could be seen as a case, given that after being fired from Apple he went on to create other companies, one of which would eventually become the [[JustForPun NeXT]] Apple.
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hawking Stephen Hawking.]] Hawking was diagnosed with the degenerative nerve disease [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amyotrophic_lateral_sclerosis amyotrophic lateral sclerosis]] when he was 21 years old, and was given three years to live. Apparently, he disagreed. Nearly five decades later, and with only a muscle fiber or two still under his conscious control, he continues to re-write the world of theoretical physics, and uses his other time to publish best-selling books. Not bad for a guy who can require between five and ten minutes to write a long sentence.

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* Steve Jobs Ceeator/SteveJobs during the 1990s could be seen as a case, given that after being fired from Apple he went on to create other companies, one of which would eventually become the [[JustForPun NeXT]] Apple.
* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Hawking Stephen Hawking.]] Creator/StephenHawking. Hawking was diagnosed with the degenerative nerve disease [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amyotrophic_lateral_sclerosis amyotrophic lateral sclerosis]] when he was 21 years old, and was given three years to live. Apparently, he disagreed. Nearly five decades later, and with only a muscle fiber or two still under his conscious control, he continues continued to re-write the world of theoretical physics, and uses used his other time to publish best-selling books.books until his death in 2018. Not bad for a guy who can require between five and ten minutes to write a long sentence.



* Creator/DonaldPleasence, famous for playing Dr. Blofeld in James Bond and Dr. Samuel Loomis in the Halloween series, worked until his death in 1995, and doing many of his own stunts even at an advanced age.

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* Creator/DonaldPleasence, famous for playing Dr. Blofeld in James Bond Film.JamesBond and Dr. Samuel Loomis in the Halloween Film/{{Halloween}} series, worked until his death in 1995, and doing many of his own stunts even at an advanced age.
15th Mar '18 6:03:29 PM danlansdowne
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* Basketball player Magic Johnson contracted HIV in 1991. '''23 years''' later, he's still been able to live with the disease that usually claims lives in a few months.

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* Basketball player Magic Johnson contracted HIV in 1991. '''23 years''' later, he's still been able to live with the disease that at the time usually claims claimed lives in a few months.
17th Feb '18 11:15:58 PM Discar
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* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dashrath_Manjhi Dashrath Manjhi.]] The nearest hospital was on the other side of a mountain range from his village, and his wife died because it took so long to get her a doctor. He then spent the next ''twenty-two years'' carving a path through the mountain, by himself, with nothing but a hammer and chisel. His road reduced the effective distance from fifty-five kilometers to fifteen kilometers. It's not a lot of people who can say they avenged their loved one by killing a mountain.
16th Feb '18 3:39:00 PM TheWildWestPyro
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* Members of the international brigades from countries taken over by fascists. They had spent the 20s fighting the fascists in their home countries only to lose brutally. Their response: to sneak into a country usually across the Pyrenees, which are the most dangerous mountains in the world, while dodging french soldiers whose job it was to prevent people entering spain. After Spain lost they either go to Russia and fight in the red army, or end up as members of the French Resistance.

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* Members of the international brigades International Brigades during the Spanish Civil War, especially those came from countries taken over by fascists. They had spent the 20s fighting the fascists in their home countries only to lose brutally. brutally, their homes torched and their friends killed. Their response: to sneak into a country usually across the Pyrenees, which are the most dangerous mountains in the world, while dodging french French soldiers whose job it was to prevent people entering spain. Spain. After Spain the Spanish Republic lost they to the right-wing rebels, these Brigade members either go went to Russia and fight fought in the red army, Red Army, or end ended up as members of the French Resistance.Resistance, to continue fighting the ideology that had taken so much from them and the rest of the world.


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* The military, government and entire population of the Republic of China adopted this attitude during the UsefulNotes/SecondSinoJapaneseWar. Despite the might of the Japanese army, despite being cut off from foreign aid for years, despite losing huge amounts of land, China and its armies defended itself furiously for eight years, refusing to surrender no matter what. Repeated atrocities inflicted by the Japanese only made Chinese troops ''more'' determined to fight harder and never flee.
10th Feb '18 9:17:02 AM tropette
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* [[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-12-06/millions-are-hounded-for-debt-they-don-t-owe-one-victim-fought-back-with-a-vengeance Andrew Therrien]], who spent years relentlessly hounding shady debt collectors despite the FBI themselves initially shrugging it off.

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* [[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-12-06/millions-are-hounded-for-debt-they-don-t-owe-one-victim-fought-back-with-a-vengeance Andrew Therrien]], who spent years relentlessly hounding shady debt collectors despite the FBI themselves initially shrugging it off. The author compares him to Liam Neeson in ''Taken''--"using unflagging aggression to obtain scraps of information and reverse-engineer a criminal syndicate."
10th Feb '18 9:15:52 AM tropette
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* [[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-12-06/millions-are-hounded-for-debt-they-don-t-owe-one-victim-fought-back-with-a-vengeance Andrew Therrien]], who spent years relentlessly hounding shady debt collectors despite the FBI themselves initially shrugging it off.
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