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11th May '13 2:25:39 PM SeptimusHeap

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Last Starfighter was merged into The Only One

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* LastStarfighter: From time to time the Rogues or the Wraiths find themselves severely, insanely outnumbered.
** In ''Starfighters of Adumar'' and ''The Bacta War'', their opponents are all basically rookies (in some cases, flying their first mission ever) and/or in undergunned and underdefended ships. Numbers are the ''only'' thing the enemy have going for them during those engagements... and, [[TruthInTelevision as we know from history]] (such as the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Lebanon_War 1982 Lebanon War]]), superior training and equipment can be the equal, or superior, of sheer numbers.
** That's a common ''Star Wars'' trope, as TIE Fighters are [[ZergRush cheap-but-fragile craft]] in comparison to the Rebels' more durable, but hard-to-obtain, fighters. Which is why the ''TIEFighter'' video game was such a change - as an Imperial pilot, your character was ''drastically'' outgunned (on an individual basis) most of the time, but had a lot of friends.
** Finally averted in ''Isard's Revenge'' and ''Starfighters of Adumar'' when they face enormous odds (six-to-one in the former case) and lose. In the first case, several Rogues are killed and the rest only survive due to being rescued by Imperials, while in the second Wedge's flight is forced down to the ground, although they do ''really'' well against the Adumari -- four against thirty, and they kill the thirty -- before the odds finally get them.
** Happens as early as the first novel.
---> '''Tycho''': We recorded thirty-four kills out of a possible thirty-six with no losses. If I hadn't been there, I'd think it was propaganda.

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* ZergRush: From time to time the Rogues or the Wraiths find themselves severely, insanely outnumbered.
** In ''Starfighters of Adumar'' and ''The Bacta War'', their opponents are all basically rookies (in some cases, flying their first mission ever) and/or in undergunned and underdefended ships. Numbers are the ''only'' thing the enemy have going for them during those engagements... and, [[TruthInTelevision as we know from history]] (such as the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Lebanon_War 1982 Lebanon War]]), superior training and equipment can be the equal, or superior, of sheer numbers.
** That's a common ''Star Wars'' trope, as TIE Fighters are [[ZergRush cheap-but-fragile craft]] in comparison to the Rebels' more durable, but hard-to-obtain, fighters. Which is why the ''TIEFighter'' video game was such a change - as an Imperial pilot, your character was ''drastically'' outgunned (on an individual basis) most of the time, but had a lot of friends.
** Finally averted in ''Isard's Revenge'' and ''Starfighters of Adumar'' when they face enormous odds (six-to-one in the former case) and lose. In the first case, several Rogues are killed and the rest only survive due to being rescued by Imperials, while in the second Wedge's flight is forced down to the ground, although they do ''really'' well against the Adumari -- four against thirty, and they kill the thirty -- before the odds finally get them.
** Happens as early as the first novel.
---> '''Tycho''': We recorded thirty-four kills out of a possible thirty-six with no losses. If I hadn't been there, I'd think it was propaganda.

25th Apr '13 4:46:38 AM Thande

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21st Apr '13 8:51:41 PM NativeJovian

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Trope renamed per TRS

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20th Apr '13 12:47:17 PM Viper16

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17th Apr '13 11:23:36 AM MarsJenkar

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* ObfuscatingDisability: At one point, Wedge Antilles disguises himself as Colonel Roat, an Imperial pilot who was badly wounded and given clumsy, poorly-functioning temporary prosthetics, on his way to Coruscant to get them replaced with sleeker models. Imperials at once look down on obvious cyborgs, generally thinking that only someone very clumsy or unlucky can be injured so badly as to need cybernetics, and at the same time respect the character played as a survivor and a war hero, and so feel guilt and shame if they get caught staring...so no one managed to connect him to the second most famous Rebel pilot. He played he character a second time, and while he had similar prosthetics to wear, they were not "dialed down" and he was able to act and fly more or less normally; the Imperials he met weren't rude enough to react visibly.
* ObfuscatingStupidity: Warlord Zsinj, who in an earlier book was just a dullwitted [[FatBastard fat sadist]] with a love of theatrics who somehow had enough ships to threaten the New Republic. The X-Wing novels retcon him into a very smart fat sadist with a love of theatrics who had the ships and tactics to threaten the New Republic. It's mentioned that a lot of the people he works with see through his facade, but he [[LargeHam enjoys playing to an audience]].

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* ObfuscatingDisability: At one point, Wedge Antilles disguises himself as Colonel Roat, an Imperial pilot who was badly wounded and given clumsy, poorly-functioning temporary prosthetics, on his way to Coruscant to get them replaced with sleeker models. Imperials at once look down on obvious cyborgs, generally thinking that only someone very clumsy or unlucky can be injured so badly as to need cybernetics, and at the same time respect the character played as a survivor and a war hero, and so feel guilt and shame if they get caught staring...so no one managed to connect him to the second most famous Rebel pilot. He played the character a second time, and while he had similar prosthetics to wear, they were not "dialed down" and he was able to act and fly more or less normally; the Imperials he met weren't rude enough to react visibly.
* ObfuscatingStupidity: Warlord Zsinj, who in an earlier book was just a dullwitted [[FatBastard fat sadist]] with a love of theatrics who somehow had enough ships to threaten the New Republic. The X-Wing novels retcon him into a very ''smart'' fat sadist with a love of theatrics who had the ships, money, and tactics to threaten the New Republic. It's mentioned that a lot of the people he works with see through his facade, but he [[LargeHam enjoys playing to an audience]].

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12th Apr '13 9:29:38 AM StarSword

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8th Apr '13 8:55:50 PM RealSlimShadowen

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** In one novel, the Wraiths play a prank that convinces a cantina-full of people that [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Falynn_Sandskimmer Falynn]] was married to [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Voort_saBinring Piggy]]. Piggy [[WhatTheHellHero asks]] an ''extremely'' pissed-off Falynn if she would have been so upset if it were, say, her and Face? Surprisingly for this trope, she realizes she's being kind of an unwitting dick to Piggy, [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming apologizes, and they agree to go back to the bar for a drink and a dance, no hard feelings.]]
* FiveTokenBand: In "Rogue Squadron" Wedge complains that the New Republic is trying to turn Rogue Squadron into one to act as a propaganda symbol, meaning he's having to accept pilots based on political considerations rather than absolute skill. The most absurd case is that the New Republic wants Thyferra on side because it produces bacta, but Thyferra is ruled by a corporate cartel duopoly of two big companies who hate each other, so Wedge has to take on ''two'' Thyferran pilots, one from each side..
** In ''Wraith Squadron'' Wedge makes a plea against this trope, arguing that a squadron assembled for pragmatic purposes is more effective than a squadron meant to appear good to the public. He even compares the use of this trope to the Empire's xenophobic habits!

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** In one novel, the Wraiths play a prank that convinces a cantina-full of people that [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Falynn_Sandskimmer Falynn]] was married to [[http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Voort_saBinring Piggy]]. Piggy [[WhatTheHellHero asks]] an ''extremely'' pissed-off Falynn if she would have been so upset if it were, say, her and Face? Surprisingly for this trope, she realizes she's being kind of an unwitting dick to Piggy, [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming apologizes, and they agree walk out of the bar holding hands.]]
* FiveTokenBand: In "Rogue Squadron" Wedge complains that the New Republic is trying to turn Rogue Squadron into one to act as a propaganda symbol, meaning he's having to accept pilots based on political considerations rather than absolute skill. The most absurd case is that the New Republic wants Thyferra on side because it is the only world in the galaxy that can cost-effectively produce the best medicine in the galaxy...but Thyferra is ruled by a corporate cartel duopoly of two big companies who hate each other, so Wedge has to take on ''two'' Thyferran pilots, one from each side..
** In ''Wraith Squadron'' Wedge makes a plea against this trope, arguing that a squadron assembled for pragmatic purposes is more effective than a squadron meant to appear good to the public. He even compares the use of this trope, specifically picking hologenic pilots that appeal to an arbitrary standard of beauty, to the Empire's xenophobic habits.

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** Averted once by her in the first novel (Before we ''really'' get to know her, possibly?). When someone he's interrogating dies before giving up the information he needs, Kirtan Loor is summoned back to Imperial Center by Isard, Empress in all but name. All along the way, even while [[TheWorldIsJustAwesome marveling at the view]], he's sweating and expecting her to kill him. She doesn't -- not at that point in time -- but she does make her displeasure at his poor thinking clear, and wants him to perform better.
** Zsinj goes back and forth on this trope. On the one hand, he has had a number of subordinates killed - some for major things (losing a highly valuable Ewok test subject, then lying about it), and some for not-so-major things (slacking off on the bridge one time too many). On the other hand, he knows when to shut up and let people do their jobs, as in ''Solo Command'' when fighting off [[spoiler:Lara's]] sabotage-bots -- even giving the chief engineer a bonus for fixing his ship early (he approves of efficiency).
*** Note that said person on the bridge was playing flight simulator games to try to be a pilot, and had been SPECIFICALLY told not to do it. He was skilled enough for Zsinj to have made him a pilot, if not for the fact that a pilot who refuses direct orders is not good...and Zsinj notes that he DOES deplore using this.

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** Averted once by her in the first novel (before we ''really'' get to know her, possibly?). When someone he's interrogating dies before giving up the information he needs, Kirtan Loor is summoned back to Imperial Center by Isard, Empress in all but name. All along the way, even while [[TheWorldIsJustAwesome marveling at the view]], he's sweating and expecting her to kill him. She doesn't--not at that point in time--but she does make her displeasure at his poor thinking clear, and wants him to perform better. It's notable that his shuttle docked at the same port as the one Vader was summoned to after Yavin--and that, we learned in Zahn's novels, the Emperor nearly killed Vader for failing to prevent the Death Star's destruction...
** Zsinj goes back and forth on this trope. On the one hand, he has had a number of subordinates killed--some for major things (losing a highly valuable Ewok test subject, then lying about it), and some for not-so-major things (slacking off on the bridge one time too many). On the other hand, he knows when to shut up and let people do their jobs, as in ''Solo Command'' when fighting off [[spoiler:Lara's]] sabotage-bots--even giving the chief engineer a bonus for fixing his ship early (he approves of efficiency).
*** Note that said person on the bridge was playing flight simulator games because he wanted to be a pilot, and had been '''specifically''' told not to do it. He was skilled enough for Zsinj to have made him a pilot...if not for the fact that a pilot who refuses direct orders is not good...and Zsinj notes that he ''does'' deplore doing it, but he's disobedient at his station, he might become a disobedient pilot, so there's nothing for it.

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