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* InNameOnly: The miniseries keeps the basic concept (American civil war renders New York City a demilitarized zone) and a handful of characters, and jettions practically everything else, focusing on a new story about a mother searching for her lost son in the DMZ. Further, even the characters who are still used have their appearances and motivations changed so much they barely resemble their comic equivalents.
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* AdaptedOut: The HBO adaptation notably removes many of the main characters from the story.

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* AdaptedOut: The HBO adaptation notably removes many of the main important characters from the story.story, including the main character Matty.
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* DefectorFromDecadence: Many of the Central Park Ghosts are former soldiers from one side or the other who became disgruntled about their side and/or the war in general and .

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* DefectorFromDecadence: Many of the Central Park Ghosts are former soldiers from one side or the other who became disgruntled about their side and/or the war in general and . and deserted. Being one of the few DMZ factions that has actual military training and equipment automatically makes them one of the most formidable groups on the island.
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* AxCrazy: "Street crazies" who seem to attack anyone they encounter. Even the sane residents of the DMZ kill anyone in their territory that they don't recognize.
* BalkanizeMe: Actually averted - although the US is caught in a civil war it has not actually split into separate countries per se. The FSA makes no claims to being an independent state, styling itself as a revolutionary movement instead, and even the DMZ itself is still technically United States territory. The operative word there, however, is 'technically' - outside the relatively tiny USA zone of control in New England there's only a few hints of parts of the country that aren't in a permanent state of asymmetrical warfare.

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* AxCrazy: "Street crazies" who seem to attack anyone they encounter. Even the sane residents of the DMZ kill can come off this way because they are willing to shoot at anyone in their territory that they don't recognize.
recognize. (This is because the remaining residents are by necessity split into different communities and/or gangs for protection, and many of these groups are violently opposed to each other or squabbling over resources to survive.) As for outsiders, people in the DMZ blame them (and ''especially'' their militaries), for the miserable conditions they live under, and as such they're not exactly kindly disposed towards them.
* BalkanizeMe: Actually averted - although the US U.S is caught in a civil war it has not actually split into separate countries per se. The FSA makes no claims to being an independent state, styling itself as a revolutionary movement instead, and even the DMZ itself is still technically United States territory. The operative word there, however, is 'technically' - outside the USA has firm control of the relatively tiny USA zone (compared to the rest of control in the country) region of New England there's only a few hints England, but it's hinted that most of parts the rest of the country that aren't is in a permanent state of asymmetrical warfare.



* BittersweetEnding: Matty has to live with the mistakes he's made [[spoiler: in a federal prison for the rest of his life. He even lets the government pin some of their crimes on him, like killing Viktor. However, the war ends and fifteen years later, Manhattan has been rebuilt.]]

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* BittersweetEnding: Matty has to live with the mistakes he's made [[spoiler: in [[spoiler:in a federal prison for the rest of his life. He even lets the government pin some of their crimes on him, like killing Viktor. However, the war finally ends and in the epilogue that takes place fifteen years later, afterward, Manhattan has been successfully rebuilt.]]



* BrooklynRage: It practically oozes off many characters, including Marty, in spite of the fact that they're in Manhattan.

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* BrooklynRage: It practically oozes off many characters, including Marty, in spite of the fact that they're not technically in Manhattan.Brooklyn.



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* DefectorFromDecadence: Many of the Central Park Ghosts are former soldiers form one side or the other.

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* DeconstructorFleet
DeconstructorFleet: Of dystopian wars, and modern insurgency/revolution. In reality these things are not pleasant or pretty, and DMZ makes no bones about it.
* DefectorFromDecadence: Many of the Central Park Ghosts are former soldiers form from one side or the other.other who became disgruntled about their side and/or the war in general and .



* TheDon: It takes awhile to dawn on Matty that [[spoiler:his elderly neighbor and protector Wilson]] is this. Their relationship starts to change after that happens.

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* TheDon: It takes awhile to dawn on Matty that [[spoiler:his elderly neighbor friend and protector Wilson]] is this. Their relationship starts to change after that happens.



* VoiceOfTheResistance: Matty [[spoiler:begins as one, and when he abandons this role he sets up a replacement in volume 8.]]

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* VoiceOfTheResistance: Matty [[spoiler:begins as one, and when he abandons this role to take part in Parco Delgado's government, he sets up a replacement in volume 8.]]
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* AdaptedOut: The HBO adaptation notably removes the main character from the story.

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* AdaptedOut: The HBO adaptation notably removes many of the main character characters from the story.
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A [[Series/DMZ2020 TV adaptation]] was produced by Creator/HBOMax as a miniseries starring Creator/RosarioDawson, released on March 17, 2022.

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A [[Series/DMZ2020 An InNameOnly TV adaptation]] adaptation was produced by Creator/HBOMax as a miniseries starring Creator/RosarioDawson, released on March 17, 2022.
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** Kristian Donaldson does not draw Matty with his trademark [[PointlessBandAid nose bandage]]. After she filled in for Burchielli on issue 20, Burchielli apparently did homage to her choice by not drawing it on Matty's face for issue 21. In issue 22, however, it inexplicably returns]].

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** Kristian Donaldson does not draw Matty with his trademark [[PointlessBandAid nose bandage]]. After she filled in for Burchielli on issue 20, Burchielli apparently did homage to her choice by not drawing it on Matty's face for issue 21. In issue 22, however, it inexplicably returns]].returns.
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-->'''Matty Roth''': "I can't be the guy that busted Trustwell, or the guy that broke Stevens' story, or the guy who helped end the war without also being the guy that [[spoiler: sold Parco that nuke, or caused the deaths of those innocent civilians]]. The two go hand in hand."

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-->'''Matty --->'''Matty Roth''': "I can't be the guy that busted Trustwell, or the guy that broke Stevens' story, or the guy who helped end the war without also being the guy that [[spoiler: sold Parco that nuke, or caused the deaths of those innocent civilians]]. The two go hand in hand."
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* AxeCrazy: "Street crazies" who seem to attack anyone they encounter. Even the sane residents of the DMZ kill anyone in their territory that they don't recognize.

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* AxeCrazy: AxCrazy: "Street crazies" who seem to attack anyone they encounter. Even the sane residents of the DMZ kill anyone in their territory that they don't recognize.
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* AdaptedOut: The HBO adaptation notably removes the main character from the story.
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A TV adaptation was produced by Creator/HBOMax as a miniseries starring Creator/RosarioDawson, released on March 17, 2022.

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A [[Series/DMZ2020 TV adaptation adaptation]] was produced by Creator/HBOMax as a miniseries starring Creator/RosarioDawson, released on March 17, 2022.
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A TV adaptation is being produced by HBO Max as a miniseries starring Rosario Dawson.

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A TV adaptation is being produced by HBO Max as a miniseries starring Rosario Dawson.

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* BadassMustache: Soames and his subordinate Miller are both skilled combatants with impressive 'statches.

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* EvilVsEvil: It's hard not to feel that the conflict between the United States and the Free States is a case of this. The USA is depicted as increasingly authoritarian, brutal, and delusional to the point of [[BelievingTheirOwnLies believing their own propaganda]], and their claims that they can beat back the FSA and reconquer the country any minute now is an unrealistic and sometimes pathetic fantasy. The FSA meanwhile is essentially a RightWingMilitiaFanatic group writ large, complete with a rampage through the country that was implied (and sometimes shown) to be full of RapePillageAndBurn, and every single prominent figure from the FSA who is ever shown is an unrepentant {{jerkass}}.

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* EvilVsEvil: It's hard not to feel that the conflict between the United States and the Free States is a case of this. The USA is depicted as increasingly authoritarian, brutal, and delusional to the point of [[BelievingTheirOwnLies believing their own propaganda]], and their claims that they can beat back the FSA and reconquer the country any minute now is an unrealistic and sometimes pathetic fantasy. The FSA meanwhile is essentially a RightWingMilitiaFanatic group writ large, complete with a rampage through the country that was implied (and sometimes shown) to be full of RapePillageAndBurn, and every single prominent figure from the FSA who is ever shown is an unrepentant {{jerkass}}. Even what initially seem to be the more sensible faction leaders quickly reveal a much, much uglier side, such as [[spoiler:Parco Delgado, champion of New York's minorities, who becomes a Castro-esque PayEvilUntoEvil dictator once he actually acquires political power, and the environmentalist Soames, who sells a ''nuke'' to the aforementioned Delgado]].



* FalseFlagOperation: The Trustwell Corporation hires terrorists to attack themselves in order to justify a violent crackdown on the civilians of the DMZ.



* KarmaHoudini: Arguably the government; they never have to answer for [[spoiler: killing Viktor, framing Parco for setting off his nuke when they just dropped their own on it, and they lay all the blame on Matty in addition to the things he's actually guilty of. However, they end up negotiating with the Free States instead of decisively defeating them to put things back exactly as they were before the war.]] Matty specifically seeks to ''avert'' this for himself, partly because he doesn't want to avoid the consequences of his actions, and party because accepting amnesty [[spoiler: which would save him from both his own crimes and the ones the government pins on him]] would kill the legitimacy of anything he reports on afterwards.

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* KarmaHoudini: Arguably the KarmaHoudini:
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government; they never have to answer for [[spoiler: killing Viktor, framing Parco for setting off his nuke when they just dropped their own on it, and they lay all the blame on Matty in addition to the things he's actually guilty of. of]]. In the final arc, Matty is literally handed the perfect opportunity to nail them to the wall for all of the above... [[spoiler:and he decides ''not'' to take it, as the war is almost over by then and doing the expose would revive it even worse than before]]. However, they [[spoiler:they end up negotiating with the Free States instead of decisively defeating them to put things back exactly as they were before the war.]] ]]
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Matty specifically seeks to ''avert'' this for himself, partly because he doesn't want to avoid the consequences of his actions, and party because accepting amnesty [[spoiler: which would save him from both his own crimes and the ones the government pins on him]] would kill the legitimacy of anything he reports on afterwards.


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* OnlySaneWoman: Zee is the moral core of the story, virtually the only character who never does anything violent or otherwise morally sketchy, and makes a point of not associating with any faction due to assuming, for the most part correctly, that none of them are good for the innocent civilians of New York.
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* SecondAmericanCivilWar: The Midwest is fighting against both coasts, to the point where New Jersey and New York are on opposite sides and the title location (the Demilitarized Zone) is Manhattan Island, where an uneasy cease-fire has formed. DMZ says the free state movement was more of an idea than a territorial location, making it more in line with modern 4th generation warfare.

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* AlternateHistory: The WarOnTerror is no less than six conflicts, and the strain on the government's approval by the public is far worse for it.

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* AlternateHistory: The WarOnTerror UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror is no less than six conflicts, and the strain on the government's approval by the public is far worse for it.



* TheWarOnTerror: The strain of the USA's [[ForeverWar endless intervention throughout the Third World]] have caused the country to come apart at the seams.
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* BadassGrandpa: Wilson, literally - he has many, many grandsons. It's never made clear precisely how old he actually is, but he's clearly no spring chicken. He also [[spoiler:rules Chinatown, and his 'grandsons' are actually his private army, one of the most powerful military forces in the city.]]
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* ShroudedInMyth: Subverted with the Central Park Ghosts. They claim to be just a bunch of tree hugger taking advantage of the legends that their elite deserters from both armies but they are in fact deserters, hoping to stay under the radar.
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* DoomedHometown: One of the soldiers escorting Matty and Victor into the DMZ is from Manhattan, and contemporary views it as this in its current state.

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* DoomedHometown: One of the soldiers escorting Matty and Victor into the DMZ is from Manhattan, and contemporary contemptuously views it as this in its current state.

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* DatingWhatDaddyHates: Part of Matty’s initial trust and desire for Kelly Connolly comes from how much her past stories would irritate his father.



* DoomedHometown: One of the soldiers escorting Matty and Victor into the DMZ is from Manhattan, and contemporary views it as this in its current state.



* EtTuBrute: Matty feels some of this with the reveal that [[spoiler: Eve]] isn’t quite as loyal of an ally as he’d thought.



* HeroOfAnotherStory: Soames, the protector of Central Park, and [[TheLastDJ Random Fire]] stand out as notable examples, although both get ADayInTheLimelight or two.

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* HangingJudge: Matty faces a tribunal of these in the penultimate issue, sitting there as they throw a mixture of true and false charges at him with stony, self-righteous language and expressions.
* HeroOfAnotherStory: Soames, the protector of Central Park, IntrepidReporter Kelly Connolly, and [[TheLastDJ Random Fire]] stand out as notable examples, although both get ADayInTheLimelight or two.


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** Kelly Connolly, who ventures into the DMZ after Matty gets shot down and is willing to come back afterwards.


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* LegallyDead: Soames was listed as KIA in the initial conflicts and has taken advantage of this to remain beneath notice while protecting Central Park.


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* SheepInSheepsClothing: Liberal journalist Kelly Connolly, who arrives and offers to help in the aftermath of some dangerous and politically-charged machinations is initially viewed with suspicion by Zee but ultimately helps Matty get the news of what happened to Victor out.


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* TookALevelInCynic: Kelly worries that she’s getting numb to the violence in the DMZ by issue 26.


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* VoiceWithAnInternetConnection: Marty’s old acquaintance Eve London briefly serves as one to him on behalf of the military.
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* AbortedArc: Random Fire's first appearance has him narrowly survive an attempt on his life by Trustwell and be on the verge of exposing more about them, but he never reappears.


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* BadassMustache: Soames and his subordinate Miller are both skilled combatants with impressive 'statches.


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* CavalryBetrayal: Happens multiple times, all the way back to the first issue when Matty tries to radio for extraction and instead a gunship bombs the area.


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* DefectorFromDecadence: Many of the Central Park Ghosts are former soldiers form one side or the other.


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** The Fur Hat military are also this, being former emergency personal MaddenedIntoMisanthropy who now exist just to lash out at everyone else.


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* HeroOfAnotherStory: Soames, the protector of Central Park, and [[TheLastDJ Random Fire]] stand out as notable examples, although both get ADayInTheLimelight or two.


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** Random Fire provides a literal example, playing music for the cities remaining clubs and pushpin a message of idealism.


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* SmallRoleBigImpact: An unnamed thief who stole Matty's press jacket leads him on a chase that brings him to his first face to face encounter with FSA soldiers, who invite him to hear their side of the story at a very inopportune time.

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* AstroTurf: After a fashion. It's strongly suggested that the Free States spent years, if not longer, gathering a fighting force, planning, and then seizing the opportunity to strike. In particular, the soldier involved in Day 204 talks about young men of fighting age being steered away from the US military at home and towards anonymous militias, and how he was assaulted and berated by one of the militia organizers when he did join the Army regardless, including a line that more or less went "You want to fight? You come see ''us'', soon enough you'd have gotten your fight!"

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* AstroTurf: After a fashion. It's strongly suggested that the Free States spent years, if not longer, gathering a fighting force, planning, and then seizing the opportunity to strike. In particular, the soldier involved in Day 204 talks about young men of fighting age being steered away from the US military at home and towards anonymous militias, and how he was assaulted and berated by one of the militia organizers when he did join the Army regardless, including a line that more or less went "You want to fight? You come see ''us'', soon enough you'd have gotten your fight!"fight!" In short, it's made clear that despite their propaganda the Free Staters were not a spontaneous uprising, but a long planned power grab.



* EvilVsEvil: It's hard not to feel that the conflict between the United States and the Free States is a case of this. The USA is depicted as increasingly authoritarian, brutal, and delusional to the point of [[BelievingTheirOwnLies believing their own propaganda]], and their claims that they can beat back the FSA and reconquer the country any minute now is an unrealistic and sometimes pathetic fantasy. The FSA meanwhile is essentially a RightWingMilitiaFanatic group writ large, complete with a rampage through the country that was implied (and sometimes shown) to be full of RapePillageAndBurn, and every single prominent figure from the FSA who is ever shown is an unrepentant {{jerkass}}.



** Liberty News stands in for any of the other 24-hour news networks.

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** Liberty News stands in for any of the other 24-hour news networks.networks, although it seems to take greatest influence from Fox News.
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* PointlessBandAid: Matty sports a bandage over the bridge of his nose for almost the entire story, which spans several years. It inexplicably shows up in issue 3 (though disappears in a few panels), and sticks around for the rest of the series, barring a few issues drawn by [[DependingOnTheArtist another artist.

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* PointlessBandAid: Matty sports a bandage over the bridge of his nose for almost the entire story, which spans several years. It inexplicably shows up in issue 3 (though disappears in a few panels), and sticks around for the rest of the series, barring a few issues drawn by [[DependingOnTheArtist another artist.artist]].
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* ElectionNight: The power of an election is shown when Trustwell's ''massive'' voter intimidation campaign fails to stop Parco Delgado from being elected, and then [[spoiler: it's subverted when it turns out electing Parco was the worst thing the population of the DMZ could've done for themselves; their elected representative pushes the government too far.]]

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* ElectionNight: ElectionDayEpisode: The power of an election is shown when Trustwell's ''massive'' voter intimidation campaign fails to stop Parco Delgado from being elected, and then [[spoiler: it's subverted when it turns out electing Parco was the worst thing the population of the DMZ could've done for themselves; their elected representative pushes the government too far.]]
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** Kristian Donaldson does not draw Matty with his trademark [[PointlessBandAid nose bandage]]. After she filled in for Burchielli on issue 20, Burchielli apparently did homage to her choice by not drawing it on Matty's face for issue 21. In issue 22, however, it inexplicably returns.

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** Kristian Donaldson does not draw Matty with his trademark [[PointlessBandAid nose bandage]]. After she filled in for Burchielli on issue 20, Burchielli apparently did homage to her choice by not drawing it on Matty's face for issue 21. In issue 22, however, it inexplicably returns.returns]].



* DrunkWithPower: [[spoiler:Matty increasingly became this before it seriously bit him in the ass. Parco may well have been there, but it's hard to say exactly, because we have relatively little insight to him.]]

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* DrunkWithPower: [[spoiler:Matty increasingly became this before it seriously bit bites him in the ass. Parco may well have been there, but it's hard to say exactly, because we have relatively little insight to him.]]

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