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* {{Hypocrite}}: In Episode 2, she yells at the servants that they have been bought off by the culprit and are blinded by the gold. [[spoiler:Never mind that she was bought off herself, and is probably the one most motivated by greed in the lot.]]
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* AlternateCharacterReading: The characters in his name literally mean [[{{Determinator}} "fighting person"]]. In-universe, Battler mentions that a lot of people tend to misread the kanji in his name and think his name is "Sento".


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* OddNameOut: He's the only one out of Kinzo's children and grandchildren who doesn't have a realistic western name; how many people in real life are actually named "Battler"? Still, there are [[MeaningfulName reasons]] why he has that name, [[WhoNamesTheirKidDude however much he dislikes it]].
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* [[spoiler:UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom]]: [[spoiler:The plan was initially simply for Yasukashnontrice to find a way to settle her "in-love-with-three-different-people" dilemma in the same way that Kinzo had gambitted to apologize to her, until Kyrie and Rudolf go on a murder spree to claim the inheritance money all for themselves]].

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* [[spoiler:UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom]]: [[spoiler:The plan was initially simply for Yasukashnontrice Yasu to find a way to settle her his/her "in-love-with-three-different-people" dilemma in the same way that Kinzo had gambitted to apologize to her, him/her, until Kyrie and Rudolf go on a murder spree to claim the inheritance money all for themselves]].



* FormulaicMagic: His magic is said to be based heavily in probability.

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* FormulaicMagic: His magic is said to be based heavily in probability. [[spoiler:Indeed, he is well aware that his gambit to find his lost child by writing a difficult riddle for them to solve that would lead to his hidden gold only has about a one in a quadrillion chance of working. But lo and behold, it does.]]
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* [[WellDoneSonGuy Well Done Daughter Girl]]: Natsuhi has this to Kinzo, her father-in-law, as she loves him very much and desperately wants his approval. [[spoiler:In [=EP5=], however, Bernkastel tells her in red that Kinzo never thought she was good enough.]]

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* [[WellDoneSonGuy Well Done Daughter Girl]]: Natsuhi has is this to Kinzo, her father-in-law, as she loves him very much and desperately wants his approval. [[spoiler:In [=EP5=], however, Bernkastel tells her in red that Kinzo never thought she was good enough.]]
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** Played with, while Battler is rather innocent and oblivious about the true nature of his family, [[spoiler:he gets so absorbed into proving Beato wrong that he doesn't even consider ''why'' is she doing all this in the first place, ignoring all the clues she gives him in form of "magic" throughout the games, and is the very thing that keeps him from finding the truth until Episode 5.]]

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** Played with, while Battler is rather innocent and oblivious about the true nature of his family, [[spoiler:he gets so absorbed into proving Beato wrong that he doesn't even consider ''why'' is she is doing all this in the first place, ignoring all the clues she gives him in form of "magic" throughout the games, and games. This is the very thing that keeps him from finding the truth until Episode 5.]]
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* [[WellDoneSonGuy Well Done Daughter Girl]]: Natsuhi has this to Kinzo, her father-in-law, as she loves him very much and desperately wants his approval.

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* [[WellDoneSonGuy Well Done Daughter Girl]]: Natsuhi has this to Kinzo, her father-in-law, as she loves him very much and desperately wants his approval. [[spoiler:In [=EP5=], however, Bernkastel tells her in red that Kinzo never thought she was good enough.]]
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* [[spoiler:IWillWaitForYou]]: She resolved to do this for [[spoiler:Battler, who had promised to take her away from Rokkenjima on a white horse. Unfortunately he forgot about this promise, not only because of the whole situation with Rudolf remarrying too soon and Battler deciding to leave the family because of it, but also because he didn't even take it as seriously as she did. This is what ultimately drives Yasu into madness]].

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* [[spoiler:IWillWaitForYou]]: She resolved to do this for [[spoiler:Battler, who had promised to take her away from Rokkenjima on a white horse.horse and live their lives together. Unfortunately he forgot about this promise, not only because of the whole situation with Rudolf remarrying too soon and Battler deciding to leave the family because of it, but also because he didn't even take it as seriously as she did. This is what ultimately drives Yasu into madness]].
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* PrettySpryForADeadGuy: In the second Episode.

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* PrettySpryForADeadGuy: In the second Episode. [[spoiler:Subverted if you take into account that he probably faked his death in the first place.]]
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* IWasQuiteALooker: The [=EP8=] manga reveals that yes, [[http://www.dm5.com/m112742-p21/ he really was]].

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* IWasQuiteALooker: The [=EP8=] manga reveals that yes, [[http://www.dm5.com/m112742-p21/ [[http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbaofcO5tz1qk5qkyo1_1280.jpg he really was]].
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* StayInTheKitchen: Krauss repeatedly shuts Natsuhi up. Unfortunately this isn't to his benefit, since she basically runs the house and has much more common sense than he does while he squanders their money on poorly thought-out business ventures.

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* StayInTheKitchen: Krauss repeatedly shuts Natsuhi up. Unfortunately this isn't to his benefit, since she basically runs the house and has much more common sense than he does (at least when she isn't letting her emotions get the better of her) while he squanders their money on poorly thought-out business ventures.
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* NiceGuy: Played with: he used to be one in [[EntitledToHaveYou the most unflattering sense possible]], which Shannon [[TheGadfly teases]] him about even now. He's now closer to the genuine article, though probably not as much as he thinks; his inner thoughts about how he enjoys "playing with Shannon's feelings" as much as he likes and his proposal to her in [=EP1=] ("Accept this ring, that's an order") still tend to come across as condescending.

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* NiceGuy: Played with: he used to be one in [[EntitledToHaveYou the most unflattering sense possible]], which Shannon [[TheGadfly teases]] him about even now. He's now closer to the genuine article, though probably not as much as he thinks; some of the things he says and does, like his inner thoughts about how he enjoys "playing with Shannon's feelings" as much as he likes and his proposal to her in [=EP1=] ("Accept this ring, that's an order") order"), still tend to come across as condescending.
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* NiceGuy: He used to be one in [[EntitledToHaveYou the most unflattering sense possible]], which Shannon [[TheGadfly teases]] him about even now. He's now closer to the genuine article, though not as much as he thinks; his inner thoughts about how he enjoys "playing with Shannon's emotions" as much as he likes and his proposal to her in [=EP1=] ("Marry me, that's an order") still tend to come across as somewhat condescending.

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* NiceGuy: He Played with: he used to be one in [[EntitledToHaveYou the most unflattering sense possible]], which Shannon [[TheGadfly teases]] him about even now. He's now closer to the genuine article, though probably not as much as he thinks; his inner thoughts about how he enjoys "playing with Shannon's emotions" feelings" as much as he likes and his proposal to her in [=EP1=] ("Marry me, ("Accept this ring, that's an order") still tend to come across as somewhat condescending.
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* NiceGuy: He used to be one in the most unflattering sense possible (which Shannon {{troll}}s him about even now), but now he's much closer to the genuine article. Of course, some fans think he's still [[EntitledToHaveYou that kind]] of "Nice Guy".

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* NiceGuy: He used to be one in [[EntitledToHaveYou the most unflattering sense possible (which possible]], which Shannon {{troll}}s [[TheGadfly teases]] him about even now), but now. He's now he's much closer to the genuine article. Of course, some fans think he's article, though not as much as he thinks; his inner thoughts about how he enjoys "playing with Shannon's emotions" as much as he likes and his proposal to her in [=EP1=] ("Marry me, that's an order") still [[EntitledToHaveYou that kind]] of "Nice Guy".tend to come across as somewhat condescending.
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* LawOfInverseFertility: Feeds into succession tensions, as she and Krauss can't conceive a kid and heir for ''many'' years.

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* LawOfInverseFertility: Feeds into succession tensions, as she and Krauss can't couldn't conceive a kid and heir for ''many'' years.''twelve years''.
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* TheChewToy: [[spoiler:Being among the first to die in the first arc]] is getting off easy compared to [[CruelAndUnusualDeath the hell she goes through in later arcs]]. Rosa has only survived past the second twilight ''once'' (and of course, she is among the few victims of Episode 5 and 6), and that's just things involved with the murders. Outside of that, Rosa's life is practically a personalized hell for her.

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* TheChewToy: [[spoiler:Being among the first to die in the first arc]] is getting off easy compared to [[CruelAndUnusualDeath the hell she goes through in later arcs]]. Rosa has only survived past the second twilight ''once'' (and of (of course, she is among the few victims of Episode 5 and 6), and that's just things involved with the murders. Outside of that, Rosa's life is practically a personalized hell for her.
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* TheChewToy: [[spoiler:Being among the first to die in the first arc]] is getting off easy compared to [[CruelAndUnusualDeath the hell she goes through in later arcs]]. Rosa has only survived past the second twilight ''once'', and that's just things involved with the murders. Outside of that, Rosa's life is practically a personalized hell for her. And of course, she is among the few victims of Episode 5 and 6.

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* TheChewToy: [[spoiler:Being among the first to die in the first arc]] is getting off easy compared to [[CruelAndUnusualDeath the hell she goes through in later arcs]]. Rosa has only survived past the second twilight ''once'', ''once'' (and of course, she is among the few victims of Episode 5 and 6), and that's just things involved with the murders. Outside of that, Rosa's life is practically a personalized hell for her. And of course, she is among the few victims of Episode 5 and 6.
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* TheChewToy: [[spoiler:Being among the first to die in the first arc]] is getting off easy compared to [[CruelAndUnusualDeath the hell she goes through in later arcs]]. Rosa has only survived past the second twilight ''once'', and that's just things involved with the murders. Outside of that, Rosa's life is practically a personalized hell for her.

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* TheChewToy: [[spoiler:Being among the first to die in the first arc]] is getting off easy compared to [[CruelAndUnusualDeath the hell she goes through in later arcs]]. Rosa has only survived past the second twilight ''once'', and that's just things involved with the murders. Outside of that, Rosa's life is practically a personalized hell for her. And of course, she is among the few victims of Episode 5 and 6.
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* NiceGuy: And it's noted that his cheerful attitude is very welcome [[BigScrewedUpFamily in the atmosphere of the family conference]].

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* NiceGuy: And it's noted that his cheerful attitude geniality is very welcome [[BigScrewedUpFamily in the atmosphere of the family conference]].

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* NiceGuy

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* NiceGuyNamesTheSame: His favorite historical figure is ToyotomiHideyoshi.
* NiceGuy: And it's noted that his cheerful attitude is very welcome [[BigScrewedUpFamily in the atmosphere of the family conference]].
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* [[spoiler:IFightForTheStrongestSide]]: … Kinda sorta. Once you know that [[spoiler:he's paid by both Yasu to play her "scenario" and by Krauss and Natsuhi to hide Kinzō's death]], you realize that he often takes the side most likely to assure his safety. It doesn't serve him much though.

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* [[spoiler:IFightForTheStrongestSide]]: [[spoiler:IFightForTheStrongestSide:]] … Kinda sorta. Once you know that [[spoiler:he's paid by both Yasu to play her "scenario" and by Krauss and Natsuhi to hide Kinzō's death]], you realize that he often takes the side most likely to assure his safety. It doesn't serve him much though.
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* [[spoiler:IFightForTheStrongestSide]]: … Kinda sorta. Once you know that [[spoiler:he's paid by both Yasu to play her "scenario" and by Krauss and Natsuhi to hide Kinzō's death]], you realize that he often takes the side most likely to assure his safety. It doesn't serve him much though.
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!!Shannon (紗音)/Sayo/[[spoiler:"Yasu" Yasuda]]

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* [[spoiler:LoveHurts]]

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* [[spoiler:LoveHurts]][[spoiler:LoveHurts]] Mostly because [[spoiler:no matter how much she may love and be loved by George, she would have to reveal her broken body to him sooner or later.]]



!!Kanon (嘉音)/Yoshiya/[[spoiler:"Yasu" Yasuda]]

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!!Kanon (嘉音)/Yoshiya/[[spoiler:"Yasu" (嘉音)/Yoshiya[[spoiler:/"Yasu" Yasuda]]
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!!Shannon (紗音)/Sayo/[[spoiler:Yasu]]

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!!Shannon (紗音)/Sayo/[[spoiler:Yasu]](紗音)/Sayo/[[spoiler:"Yasu" Yasuda]]



!!Kanon (嘉音)/Yoshiya/[[spoiler:Yasu]]

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!!Kanon (嘉音)/Yoshiya/[[spoiler:Yasu]](嘉音)/Yoshiya/[[spoiler:"Yasu" Yasuda]]
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* EducationMama: Not shown in as much detail as Eva, but it's still apparent that Natsuhi is very strict with Jessica when it comes to her studies...and, well, just about everything else in her daughter's life.

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* EducationMama: Not shown in as much detail as Eva, but it's still apparent that Natsuhi is very strict with Jessica when it comes to her studies...and, well, studies, as well as just about everything else in her daughter's life.
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* SupremeChef: It's only very breifly mentionned in the story, but according to a TIP she is very skilled and creative when it comes to cooking, to the point Hideyoshi calls her a "Witch of the kitchen".

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* SupremeChef: It's only very breifly briefly mentionned in the story, but according to a TIP she is very skilled and creative when it comes to cooking, to the point Hideyoshi calls her a "Witch of the kitchen".
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* StealthInsult: Quite fond of these in the early arcs, her favorite targets being Natsuhi and Rosa.
-->'''Eva:''' Isn't it nice for a child to have dreams? By the way Rosa, how old is Maria this year, again? ^__^

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* StealthInsult: Quite fond of these Notably in the early arcs, her favorite targets being Natsuhi and Rosa.
-->'''Eva:''' Isn't it It's so nice for a child to have dreams? dreams! By the way Rosa, how old is Maria this year, again? ^__^
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* StealthInsult: Quite fond of these in the early arcs, her favorite targets being Natsuhi and Rosa.
-->'''Eva:''' Isn't it nice for a child to have dreams? By the way Rosa, how old is Maria this year, again? ^__^

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* VerbalTic: "''Uu~''". This is later revealed to be what she believes is a spell for happiness.
** Possibly [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]]; Maria's verbal tic frequently irritates her mother, who will even [[AbusiveParents hit her for saying it too much]], and it's said to be one of the reasons why she's bullied at school.

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* VerbalTic: "''Uu~''". This is later revealed to be what she believes is a spell for happiness.
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happiness. It's also [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]]; deconstructed]] to a degree; Maria's verbal tic frequently irritates her mother, who will even [[AbusiveParents hit her for saying it too much]], and it's said to be one of the reasons why she's bullied and friendless at school.
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* [[spoiler:ImaginaryFriend]]: [[spoiler:Kanon is heavily implied to be a mixture of one of these and a SplitPersonality. Shannon herself was the original one to Yasu, and took over as the dominant personality of their body when Yasu retreated into her MentalWorld.]]

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* [[spoiler:ImaginaryFriend]]: [[spoiler:Kanon is heavily implied to be a mixture of one of these [[spoiler:Shannon was originally created by Yasu as an imaginary friend and a SplitPersonality. an embodiment of the perfect servant that Yasu wished to be. Later, Shannon herself was the original one to Yasu, and took over as the dominant personality of their body when Yasu retreated into her MentalWorld.decided to be a witch instead and created the Beatrice persona.]]
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** And he has one himself as Phillip Butler in ''RoseGunsDays''.

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** And he has one himself as in Phillip Butler in ''RoseGunsDays''.from ''VisualNovel/RoseGunsDays''.

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