History Characters / TalesOfSymphonia

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* AbandonedCatchphrase: For the Sylvarant portion of the game, Lloyd has, "Give me your name and I'll give you mine," when confronted. He drops it when the group ends up in Tethe'alla.

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* AbandonedCatchphrase: For the Sylvarant portion of the game, Lloyd has, "Give me your name and I'll give you mine," when confronted. He drops it when the group ends up in Tethe'alla.Tethe'alla; when Raine [[BorrowedCatchphrase borrows]] it when they first meet Zelos, he decides that "it sounds kinda arrogant."



* AllLovingHero: Especially after CharacterDevelopment, he becomes more of a borderline [[TheMessiah Messiah]] than Colette herself.
* AmbiguouslyBi: If the affection ranking is high for Zelos, Lloyd gets plenty of moments which bring into question his sexuality...

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* AllLovingHero: Especially Not at first, but after CharacterDevelopment, he becomes more of a borderline [[TheMessiah Messiah]] than Colette herself.
* AmbiguouslyBi: If the affection ranking is high for Zelos, Lloyd gets plenty of moments which bring into question his sexuality...
herself.



* BoringButPractical: Tempest is an [[EverythingsBetterWithSpinning airborne vertical spin attack]]. Okay, [[SubvertedTrope maybe not boring]], but it's definitely one of his less flashy artes - nonetheless, the leap is enough to get him over the heads of most of his opponents, which means that in any fight with [[spoiler:Kratos]], who generally depends on magic rising from beneath, spamming Tempest is a good way to win what would otherwise be a HopelessBossFight.

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* BoringButPractical: Tempest is an [[EverythingsBetterWithSpinning airborne vertical spin attack]]. Okay, [[SubvertedTrope [[DownplayedTrope maybe not boring]], but it's definitely one of his less flashy artes - nonetheless, the leap is enough to get him over the heads of most of his opponents, which means that in any fight with [[spoiler:Kratos]], who generally depends on magic rising from beneath, spamming Tempest is a good way to win what would otherwise be a HopelessBossFight.



* DoesNotLikeSpam: He hates tomatoes. Just like [[spoiler: Kratos]].
* DualWielding: Done out of a belief that having two swords makes him twice as powerful as if he has one. The fact that dual-wielding is an unusual combat style is [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] by Kratos at one point; Lloyd's (rather poorly thought-out) response is the trope's page quote. [[spoiler: Considering the kind of [[SuperReflexes reflexes]] one needs to use two swords at once, this perhaps counts as foreshadowing his heritage.]]

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* DoesNotLikeSpam: He hates tomatoes. Just like [[spoiler: Kratos]].
his father]].
* DualWielding: Done out of a belief that having two swords makes him twice as powerful as if he has one. The fact that dual-wielding is an unusual combat style is [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] by Kratos at one point; Lloyd's (rather poorly thought-out) response is the trope's page quote. [[spoiler: Considering the kind of [[SuperReflexes reflexes]] one needs to use two swords at once, this perhaps counts as foreshadowing probably wouldn't even be possible without his heritage.]]exsphere. By the time the sequel comes around, he's shown to be ''brutally'' effective with them.



* HalfHumanHybrid: [[spoiler: He's half angel as Kratos is his biological father]].



* HeroicBastard: Though never made explicit, it's highly doubtful that [[spoiler:Anna (being an Exsphere host body) and Kratos (being a Cruxis angel)]] were married.
* HeroicBSOD
** Suffers one after [[spoiler:Colette loses her soul]].
** He also has a brief one after discovering that [[spoiler:Kratos is his father]].
* HeroWithBadPublicity: He spends much of the first act under the stigma of being "that brat who destroyed Iselia". [[spoiler:Happens again in the second act, when the Pope declares him a traitor out to destroy Teth'ella in order to prevent Lloyd from interfering with his own sinister schemes.]]
** And then ''Dawn of the New World'' reveals that pretty much ''everyone'' blames him for all the problems that have arisen since [[spoiler:the worlds merged.]]

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* HeroicBastard: Though never made explicit, it's highly doubtful that his parents [[spoiler:Anna (being an Exsphere host body) body)]] and [[spoiler: Kratos (being a Cruxis angel)]] were married.
* HeroicBSOD
**
HeroicBSOD Suffers one after [[spoiler:Colette loses her soul]].
**
soul]]. He also has a brief one after discovering that [[spoiler:Kratos is his father]].
* HeroWithBadPublicity: He spends much of the first act under the stigma of being "that brat who destroyed Iselia". [[spoiler:Happens Happens again in the second act, when [[spoiler: the Pope declares him a traitor out to destroy Teth'ella in order to prevent Lloyd from interfering with his own sinister schemes.]]
**
]] And then ''Dawn of the New World'' reveals that pretty much ''everyone'' blames him for all the problems that have arisen since [[spoiler:the worlds merged.]]



* LikesOlderWomen: Becomes this in ''Dawn of the New World'', unless you pair him up with Colette because all of the other options [[spoiler: including, technically, Presea]] are older than him. He'll still comment on the attractiveness of older women if you do. [[MommyIssues Considering that he was raised without a mother...]]

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* LikesOlderWomen: Becomes this in ''Dawn of the New World'', unless you pair him up with Colette because all of the other options [[spoiler: options including, technically, [[spoiler: Presea]] are older than him. He'll still comment on the attractiveness of older women if you do. [[MommyIssues Considering that he was raised without a mother...]]



* ScrewYourself: Kinda, if paired with [[spoiler: Sheena (as she's, more or less, his rough Tethe'allan[[labelnote:*]]basically, parallel universe[[/labelnote]] counterpart)]].



* StrongFamilyResemblance: It could just be the art style, but compare Lloyd's "sad" expression to [[spoiler: [[https://youtu.be/WgMjwDk8sfg?t=5m31s Kratos'.]]]]
** Yuan and Pronyma also note they can see the resemblance.

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* StrongFamilyResemblance: It could just be the art style, but compare Lloyd's "sad" expression to [[spoiler: [[https://youtu.be/WgMjwDk8sfg?t=5m31s Kratos'.]]]]
**
]]]] Yuan and Pronyma also note they can see the resemblance.resemblance between the two.



* BodyHorror: [[spoiler: Her negative reaction to her Cruxis Crystal causes her entire body to crystallize into a grotesque green plating.]]



* DefinitelyJustACold: For a large part of the game.

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* DefinitelyJustACold: For a large part of the game. It...[[BodyHorror isn't.]]



* [[DoesNotLikeSpam Does Not Like Bell Peppers]] / StockYuck: [[spoiler:In fact, it becomes a plot point when she starts eating them.]]

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* [[DoesNotLikeSpam Does Not Like Bell Peppers]] / StockYuck: [[spoiler:In In fact, it becomes a plot point when she starts eating them.them. [[spoiler: It's a sign that she's beginning to lose her humanity.]]



* GenkiGirl: [[spoiler:Though she morphs into a StepfordSmiler after a certain amount of time.]]

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* GenkiGirl: [[spoiler:Though she morphs into She's high-energy, that's for sure, to the point where even Lloyd can't keep up. [[spoiler:Turns out, she's a StepfordSmiler after a certain amount of time.StepfordSmiler.]]



* ObliviousToLove: None of Zelos' flirting fazes her at all, and she's not just ignoring it like Raine and Sheena do.



* [[DoesNotLikeSpam Does Not Like Tomatoes]]: Just like Lloyd. [[{{Foreshadowing}} Hmmm.]]

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* [[DoesNotLikeSpam Does Not Like Tomatoes]]: Just like Lloyd. [[{{Foreshadowing}} Hmmm.]]It's one of the few things they have in common.



-->'''Kratos''':[[spoiler: Have you forgotten, Remiel? I used to be of the inferior race, a human. Does the ultimate being seek help from that which he despises most?]]
** He also gets a good attack on Magnius in Palmacosta, which is enough to force him to retreat.

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-->'''Kratos''':[[spoiler: Have you forgotten, Remiel? I used to be of the inferior race, a human. Does the ultimate being seek help from that which he despises most?]]
**
most?]] He also gets a good attack on Magnius in Palmacosta, which is enough to force him to retreat.



* BunnyEarsLawyer: Loves technology and ancient artifacts a little ''too'' much at times...

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* BunnyEarsLawyer: Loves technology and ancient artifacts a little ''too'' much at times...and is still by far the greatest scholar in Sylvarant.



** In the sequel, bad mouthing Lloyd is a one-way ticket to his bad side.



* FakeDefector: [[spoiler:In the storyline that doesn't kill him.]]

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* FakeDefector: [[spoiler:In the storyline that doesn't kill him. He still betrays the party, but it's just a ruse to swipe a means for Lloyd to wield the Eternal Sword.]]



* JerkassFacade: He might let people hate him, but his PetTheDog moments shows he's actually thought about the consequences of his actions.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Somewhat in ''Symphonia'', even more so in the sequel.

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* JerkassFacade: His brutal honesty comes off as just being a jerk at first, but he's actually giving people hard truths that they have to face regardless. He really needs to work on his delivery, though.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold:
He might let people hate him, but his PetTheDog moments shows he's actually thought about the consequences of his actions.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Somewhat in ''Symphonia'', even more so in the sequel.
actions.



* LovableTraitor: [[spoiler:Though he had his reasons.]]

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* LovableTraitor: [[spoiler:Though [[spoiler: DoubleSubverted; he had betrays the party with a smile on his reasons.face, but abruptly stops being loveable. However, in the canonical path, he turns out to be a FakeDefector, and the party welcomes him back with open arms.]]



* SadClown: The thin veil of cool he has is pretty easily crumbled.

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* SadClown: The thin veil of cool He doesn't take anything seriously and is constantly cracking jokes. As it turns it, it's because he thinks that he's worthless and his life has is pretty easily crumbled.no meaning.



* ShadowArchetype: To Colette. Both hide the suffering that the title of Chosen bestows upon them with fake smiles. But while Colette accepts her fate with a sense of piety and self-sacrifice, Zelos simply treats his life as one big joke. His relationship with Sheena is also the polar opposite of Lloyd's relationship with Colette.

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* ShadowArchetype: To Colette. Both hide the suffering that the The title of Chosen bestows upon them with fake smiles. But while Colette accepts means that neither of the two value their lives as much as they should, and they both become StepfordSmilers as a result. While Collette has a huge martyr complex that makes her fate with a sense accept unnecessary suffering for the sake of piety and self-sacrifice, others, Zelos simply treats tries his best to avoid his responsibilities as the Chosen and squeeze as much superficial pleasure from life as one big joke. possible. His relationship with Sheena is also the polar opposite of Lloyd's relationship Colette's with Colette. Lloyd.



* StepfordSmiler: [[spoiler:Underneath that cheerful exposure, Zelos has some incredibly deep emotional scars.]]

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* StepfordSmiler: [[spoiler:Underneath [Underneath that cheerful exposure, Zelos has some incredibly deep emotional scars.]]


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* EvilLuddite:[[spoiler: His World Prolongation Plan involves keeping the world in a MedievalStasis, because he believes that the development of technology inevitably leads to wars that waste resources. Unlike most Evil Luddites, he has no qualms about using technology himself.]]


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* GroinAttack: When Magnius attacks Palmacosta, Lloyd's response is to deliver a swift [[SwordBeam Demon Fang]] to his crotch.
17th Mar '17 5:20:00 AM secretfan14
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* CuteClumsyGirl: Not as much as [[{{Dojikko}} Colette]], or, rather, she's not so much clumsy as it is there's a running gag of trap doors opening under her.

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* CuteClumsyGirl: Not as much as [[{{Dojikko}} [[TheKlutz Colette]], or, rather, she's not so much clumsy as it is there's a running gag of trap doors opening under her.
16th Mar '17 10:11:57 PM tototo_pinay
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* PantyShot: In a couple of her alternate costumes, especially the beach outfit.


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* TokenMiniMoe: He's the youngest playable character in the game.
12th Mar '17 11:23:02 AM nombretomado
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* RedOniBlueOni: Red to Genis, Kratos, and Regal. Empathised with Kratos by obtaining ([=PS2=] version only) [[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/pyroclasmicinferno/ToS/Lloyd1.png extra]] [[http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/Tails-X/Forum%20Requests/samurai_front.jpg costumes]] of legendary rivals [[MiyamotoMusashi Musashi]] and [[TheRival Kojiro]].

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* RedOniBlueOni: Red to Genis, Kratos, and Regal. Empathised with Kratos by obtaining ([=PS2=] version only) [[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/pyroclasmicinferno/ToS/Lloyd1.png extra]] [[http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/Tails-X/Forum%20Requests/samurai_front.jpg costumes]] of legendary rivals [[MiyamotoMusashi [[UsefulNotes/MiyamotoMusashi Musashi]] and [[TheRival Kojiro]].
3rd Mar '17 10:26:29 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* BerserkButton: The Desians' tendency to refer to humans as "inferior beings" really pisses him off. [[spoiler: As it turns out, this is because his wife was an escapee from a Desian Human Ranch, and was killed when they tried to get her back.]] He's also oddly protective of Lloyd, and doesn't take kindly to him being hurt.

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* BerserkButton: The Desians' tendency to refer to humans as "inferior beings" really pisses him off. [[spoiler: As it turns out, this is because his wife was an escapee from a Desian Human Ranch, and was killed when they tried to get her back.]] He's also oddly protective of Lloyd, and doesn't take kindly to him being hurt. [[spoiler: He ''is'' [[PapaWolf his son]] so in retrospect not that surprising.]]
28th Feb '17 2:25:48 PM RainbowPhoenix
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* FantasticRacism: She's the first taster we get of the horrific treatment of half-elves in Tethe'alla - despite being [[spoiler: The Pope's daughter]], she is forbidden from leaving the laboratory in Sybak, ever, and is sentenced to death for letting Lloyd, Zelos and the other go.

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* FantasticRacism: She's the first taster we get of the horrific treatment of half-elves in Tethe'alla - despite being [[spoiler: The Pope's daughter]], daughter, and thus technically a member of the royal family]], she is forbidden from leaving the laboratory in Sybak, ever, and is sentenced to death for letting Lloyd, Zelos and the other go.


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* ReallyRoyaltyReveal: [[spoiler:Kate's father was the [[BastardBastard illegitimate son]] of Tethe'alla's previous king, making Kate the niece of the current king.]]
26th Feb '17 2:22:31 PM SomeNewGuy
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* HeroWithBadPublicity: He spends much of the first act under the stigma of being "that brat who brought ruin to Iselia". [[spoiler:Happens again in the second act, when the Pope declares him a traitor out to destroy Teth'ella in order to prevent Lloyd from interfering with his own sinister schemes.]]

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* HeroWithBadPublicity: He spends much of the first act under the stigma of being "that brat who brought ruin to destroyed Iselia". [[spoiler:Happens again in the second act, when the Pope declares him a traitor out to destroy Teth'ella in order to prevent Lloyd from interfering with his own sinister schemes.]]
26th Feb '17 2:22:10 PM SomeNewGuy
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* WhamLine: [[spoiler"''THIS'' world will be saved!" This serves as the first clue that there's more to the World Regeneration than Remiel says there is.]]

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* WhamLine: [[spoiler"''THIS'' [[spoiler:"''THIS'' world will be saved!" This serves as the first clue that there's more to the World Regeneration than Remiel says there is.]]
26th Feb '17 2:21:50 PM SomeNewGuy
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* HeroWithBadPublicity: He spends much of the first act under the stigma of being "that brat who brought ruin to Iselia". [[spoiler:Happens again in the second act, when the Pope declares him a traitor out to destroy Teth'ella in order to prevent Lloyd from interfering with his own sinister schemes.]]
** And then ''Dawn of the New World'' reveals that pretty much ''everyone'' blames him for all the problems that have arisen since [[spoiler:the worlds merged.]]
25th Feb '17 7:26:01 PM SomeNewGuy
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* WhamLine: [[spoiler"''THIS'' world will be saved!" This serves as the first clue that there's more to the World Regeneration than Remiel says there is.]]
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