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* HalfHumanHybrid: All Human/Elf children are fully human, but he invokes this in hopes that simply being elven born will help the Dalish accept him. It's mostly an issue growing up, since being raised by an elven parent gives him away to most humans, and his human appearance prevents him from fitting in among elves. If he [[spoiler:leaves for Tevinter, he's able to pass as a fully human mage to study his abilities, and his mother is able to move back with the Dalish since she doesn't have a human child in tow]].
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* HalfHumanHybrid: All Subverted as all Human/Elf children are fully human, but he invokes this in hopes that simply being elven born will help the Dalish accept him. It's mostly an issue growing up, since being raised by an elven parent gives him away to most humans, and his human appearance prevents him from fitting in among elves. If he [[spoiler:leaves for Tevinter, he's able to pass as a fully human mage to study his abilities, and his mother is able to move back with the Dalish since she doesn't have a human child in tow]].
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* WasOnceAMan: [[spoilers:After her battle with Hawke, she was transformed into a solid crystal statue. Normally, this would be the death of any Red Templar, but she somehow was revived as an undead being of pure red lyrium known as the Crimson Knight.]]
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* WasOnceAMan: [[spoilers:After [[spoiler:After her battle with Hawke, she was transformed into a solid crystal statue. Normally, this would be the death of any Red Templar, but she somehow was revived as an undead being of pure red lyrium known as the Crimson Knight.]]
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* PredecessorVillain: [[spoiler:The power she gained from her exposure to her red lyrium broadsword inspired Corypheus and Samson to create the Red Templar faction that would go on to terrorize Thedas for years to come. Her transformation into the Crimson Knight made her the first and most powerful of their numbers.]]
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* TakenForGranite: [[spoiler:Is frozen into a statue after overtaxing the Lyrium Idol by trying to go OneWingedAngel. Also, according to Varric in ''Inquisition'', she hasn't been moved because everyone is too afraid to touch her. At some point, however, her remains get moved to the Black Emporium and placed in a cage.]]
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* TakenForGranite: [[spoiler:Is frozen into a statue after overtaxing the Lyrium Idol by trying to go OneWingedAngel. Also, according to Varric in ''Inquisition'', she hasn't been moved because everyone is too afraid to touch her. At some point, however, her remains get moved to were revived as a creature known as the Black Emporium and placed in a cage.Crimson Knight.]]
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A member of the enigmatic Seekers, who interrogates Varric in order to find the true story of the Champion.\\
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A member of the enigmatic Seekers, who interrogates Varric in order to find the true story of the Champion.Champion, and has to deal with a lot of his bullshit on the way.\\
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** And for all her crackdowns, not only did the Templars completely fail to stop [[spoiler:Quentin]], but in one of the companion quests, a ''[[spoiler:literal Tevinter magister]]'' can waltz into Kirkwall with impunity. (And out again, depending on Hawke's actions.)
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** And for all her crackdowns, not only did the Templars completely fail to stop [[spoiler:Quentin]], but in one of the companion quests, a ''[[spoiler:literal Tevinter magister]]'' can waltz into Kirkwall with impunity. (And out again, depending on Hawke's actions.)) She's really bad at her job.
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* MisplacedRetribution: [[spoiler:Calling for the [[ThePurge Right of Annulment]] in response to the destruction of the Chantry. Meredith knows that Anders was never a resident of the Gallows; she had been looking for an excuse to annul the Circle for some time, and Anders gave her exactly that. Her excuse was so flimsy that several Circles revolted on the spot when news reached them, and those that didn't started on the path toward total war.]]
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* MisplacedRetribution: [[spoiler:Calling for the [[ThePurge Right of Annulment]] in response to the destruction of the Chantry. Meredith knows that Anders was never a resident of the Gallows; she had been looking for an excuse to annul the Circle for some time, and Anders gave her exactly that. Her excuse was so flimsy that several Circles revolted on the spot when news reached them, and those that didn't started on the path toward total war.]]]] Her 'retribution' was essentially the equivalent of blaming Czechoslovakia for starting World War 2 on the grounds that most Czechs speak German.
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* NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist: For much of the story, her harsh methods ''can'' be justified by the chaotic conditions in the city, the terrible abuses magic enables and her desire to bring some manner of order... until [[spoiler: she decides to exterminate the Kirkwall Circle of Magi for a crime they did not commit.]] She has many opportunities to achieve her goals without extremism -- or at least without acting on it. By the ending, it's clear she's in it for the bloodbath. She's a one-woman example of how extremism erodes well-intentioned aims.
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* NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist: For much of Look, it's understandable that a Templar might be driven to extremes, especially in [[WretchedHive Kirkwall]], and Abominations really are that dangerous. And that might be true for ''other'' Templars... but not Meredith. No matter how hard she tries to justify herself, it becomes increasingly clear throughout the story, her harsh methods ''can'' be justified story that she just hates mages and is looking for any excuse to kill them. And by the chaotic conditions in the city, the terrible abuses magic enables and her desire to bring some manner of order... until time she [[spoiler: she decides to exterminate invoked the Kirkwall Right of Annulment on a Circle of Magi for a crime they did not commit.]] She has many opportunities to achieve her goals without extremism -- or at least without acting on it. By basically existing in the ending, it's clear general direction of Anders, everyone in universe can see that she's in it for totally insane and that the bloodbath. She's a one-woman example of how extremism erodes well-intentioned aims.system must be broken if it allowed someone like her to get into power.]]
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* RabidCop: Her natural inclination.
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* RabidCop: Her natural inclination.inclination; her strategy for doing her job is that if she kills every mage ever to exist, then surely she'll have gotten all the demon-summoners and blood mages in there somewhere.
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* RightForTheWrongReasons: She's not ''wrong'' that the Kirkwall circle plays with demons, as it's eventually revealed that [[spoiler:Orsino was deliberately sheltering a SerialKiller blood mage]]. She is, however, wrong about them [[spoiler:being associated with Anders]], and she never stops to think that her 'kill 'em all and let the Maker sort it out' policy leads to mages deciding that if she's gonna murder them even if they do toe the party line, [[ThenLetMeBeEvil they may as well use forbidden magic to get enough of an edge to possibly survive]].
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* UnreliableNarrator: [[spoiler:Claims that Fenris wanted his lyrium markings and competed for them (which WordOfGod has disproved--Fenris competed to free his family, but didn't know the lyrium marks would be his other "prize"), but she also lied about wanting to reconnect with Fenris to lure him into a trap, and says so pretty spitefully after Fenris almost kills her for her betrayal. Though, since it was more than a decade ago, and she wasn't there to see him get the marks, it's entirely possible she's just saying what she thinks happened.]]
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* UnreliableNarrator: [[spoiler:Claims that Fenris wanted his lyrium markings and competed for them (which WordOfGod has disproved--Fenris competed to free his family, but didn't know the lyrium marks would be his other "prize"), but she also lied about wanting to reconnect with Fenris to lure him into a trap, and says so pretty spitefully after Fenris almost kills her for her betrayal. Though, However, since it was more than well over a decade ago, and she wasn't there to see him get when he got the marks, marks and most likely heard what happened from [[UnreliableNarrator Danarius]], it's entirely possible she's just saying what she thinks happened.]]
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* [[KillEmAll Tranquilize Em All]]: Bear in mind that most mages view being made Tranquil as a FateWorseThanDeath.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Even the Arishok is personally disgusted by the racial injustice Kirkwall's elves suffer, and pulls no punches telling Aveline as much. (He's also sickened by the number of people languishing in poverty while Kirkwall's elite grow fat off their labor.)
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** Even the Arishok is personally disgusted by the racial injustice Kirkwall's elves suffer, and pulls no punches telling Aveline as much. (He's also sickened by the number of people languishing in poverty while Kirkwall's elite grow fat off their labor.))
** He pauses for a moment as if taken aback if Hawke agrees to [[spoiler:hand over Isabela]].
** Even the Arishok is personally disgusted by the racial injustice Kirkwall's elves suffer, and pulls no punches telling Aveline as much. (He's also sickened by the number of people languishing in poverty while Kirkwall's elite grow fat off their labor.
** He pauses for a moment as if taken aback if Hawke agrees to [[spoiler:hand over Isabela]].
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* BackFromTheDead: [[spoiler: TheStinger of ''Absolution'' reveals she is back as the Crimson Knight]]
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** [[spoiler: In ''Absolution'' she seems to have switched to Tevinter Empire as a whole.]]
-->''[[spoiler: I '''will''' have my war!]]''
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* MeaningfulName: InUniverse, almost a NamesTheSame. Feynriel's name is an awful lot like Fen'Harel, who is [[spoiler: responsible for creating the Veil, and both he and Solas travel the Fade often]].
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* MeaningfulName: InUniverse, almost a NamesTheSame.InUniverse. Feynriel's name is an awful lot like Fen'Harel, who is [[spoiler: responsible for creating the Veil, and both he and Solas travel the Fade often]].
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!!Grand Cleric Elthina
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!!Mother Petrice
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->''"My order will soon realize the Qunari presence is more than a test of faith -- it is an open challenge. But for now, I must act on my own."''
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!!Knight-Commander Meredith Stannard
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->''"Cold corpses speak louder than abstract freedoms, do they not?"''
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!!Ser Thrask
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->''"This isn't how it should be. Templars protect mages. We should stand together, against demons, not fight amongst ourselves. Before Meredith, things were different."''
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!!Ser Wesley Vallen
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->''"Be strong, my love..."''
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!!Knight-Lieutenant Otto Alrik
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->''"Once you're Tranquil, you'll do anything I ask."''
->''"Once you're Tranquil, you'll do anything I ask."''
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!!Ser Varnell
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->''"The only certainty in their precious Qun is death before the righteous."''
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->''"The only certainty in their precious Qun is death before the righteous."''
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!!Ser Emeric
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->''"What if one of the women who died was [[{{Foreshadowing}} someone you loved?]]"''
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!!First Enchanter Orsion
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->''"Blood magic, where do you NOT see blood magic? My people cannot sneeze without you accusing us of corruption!"''
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->''"Blood magic, where do you NOT see blood magic? My people cannot sneeze without you accusing us of corruption!"''
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!!Grace
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!!Alain
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!!Karl Thekla
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->''"I would rather die a mage than live as a Templar puppet."''
->''"I would rather die a mage than live as a Templar puppet."''
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->''"I would rather die a mage than live as a Templar puppet."''
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!!Emile de Launcet
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->''"For twenty years, I was locked up! Never had a real drink or cooked something for myself. Never stood in the rain or kissed a girl."''
->''"For twenty years, I was locked up! Never had a real drink or cooked something for myself. Never stood in the rain or kissed a girl."''
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!!Quentin
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->''"I have done the impossible. I have touched the face of the Maker and lived."''
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!!Idunna
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->''"With a body like mine, men rarely have time to give me their names. They're too busy doing other things."''
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!!Tarohne
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->''"With a wave of a hand, I could do more than a templar can achieve in a lifetime. Yet they command us? Absurd! We should be ruling them. We should rule you all!"''
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!!Feynriel
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->''"If I weren't half-human, we'd be living with the Dalish. I'd be trained by a Keeper, not hustled into the Gallows like a bad secret."''
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!!Evelina
!!!'''Appears in:''' ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''
->''"Kirkwall should be mine. Then my children will have a whole city to play in."''
->''"Kirkwall should be mine. Then my children will have a whole city to play in."''
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!!Huon
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->''"I am a visionary. I've seen our destiny. I know what fate holds for the elves. The humans keep us down because they're afraid of the magic within us."''
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!!Hadriana
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!!Keeper Marethari Talas
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!!Fenarel
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->''"[Merrill] was our First once. The Keeper loved her. More than she loved the clan, it seems."''
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->''"[Merrill] was our First once. The Keeper loved her. More than she loved the clan, it seems."''
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!!Pol
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->''"To most elves I know, the only difference between them and humans is how much coin they have. Coin is the great equalizer, not living free."''
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!!The Arishok
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!!Ketojan
!!!'''Appears in:''' ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII''
->''"If you force choice, it is not choice. Your doubt does not make me wrong."''
->''"If you force choice, it is not choice. Your doubt does not make me wrong."''
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->''"I know what I am. I don't need to belabor it."''
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!!Lord Viscount Marlowe Dumar
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->''"I am losing my sense of how to balance this nightmare."''
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!!Saemus Dumar
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!!Magistrate Vanard
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!!Kelder Vanard
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!!The Elven Fanatic
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!!Arianni
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!!Nyssa
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->''"I used to dream of him returning. But not like this. He's changed, and I don't know him anymore."''
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->''"I used to dream of him returning. But not like this. He's changed, and I don't know him anymore."''
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!!Bartrand Tethras
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->''"Useless! What am I paying you blighters for?!"''
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!!Xenon the Antiquarian
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The serial killing son of Magistrate Vanard.
The serial killing son of Magistrate Vanard.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: As terse and uncooperative as he is, the Arishok is not wrong about how casually corrupt, exploitative, and chaotic Kirkwall is. He's not wrong that the city runs on a small elite of lazy, corrupt, incompetent nobles getting fat off the labor of the three starving lower towns, and how these societal roles are assigned by birth rather than merit like in the Qun. He's also one of the ''very few'' characters in the game to show disgust over the systemic injustice against elves. This causes several characters (including party members) to se the Arishok in a morally-fuzzy way. The Arishok may be a jerk, but he's not exactly wrong.
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* JerkassHasAPoint: As terse and uncooperative as he is, the Arishok is not wrong about how casually corrupt, exploitative, and chaotic Kirkwall is. He's not wrong that the city runs on a small elite of lazy, corrupt, incompetent nobles getting fat off the labor of the three starving lower towns, and how these societal roles are assigned by birth rather than merit like in the Qun. He's also one of the ''very few'' characters in the game to show disgust over the systemic injustice against elves. This causes several characters (including party members) to se see the Arishok in a morally-fuzzy way. The Arishok may be a jerk, but he's not exactly wrong.
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* AmbiguousDisorder: He shows some signs of schizophrenia, given his auditory hallucinations.
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: {{Played with}}. Elthina is ''usually'' willing to listen to the various groups in a conflict from a rather neutral position, break up immediate fights between their leaders... and that's basically it. Elthina does absolutely nothing to soothe tensions or pursue any kind of resolution to Kirkwall's problems, instead content to let them bubble beneath the surface, fostering more anger and resentment all around and pushing things closer to the boiling point. In addition, she often undermines the efforts of those who do seek some kind of resolution, including but not limited to having Hawke ''lie to the Divine'' about just how serious the Mage/Templar problems in Kirkwall are. [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome Unsurprisingly, the various political factions in Kirkwall get tired of Elthina doing absolutely nothing which causes the situation to spiral even out of Elthina's control]]. Twice. She does, however, bring up some valid points on why she doesn't explicitly take a side, as that would only increase tensions. At the same time, her claim that her power is less than it seems falls flat because the Chantry Hierarchy places Elthina as Meredith's direct superior, and there is no indication that Elthina is actually doing anything about Meredith's flagrant violations of Chantry law. Hawke can also make the argument that staying neutral is effectively the same as siding with the Templars. Still, her death is what causes the tense stand-off to culminate in all-out slaughter.
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: {{Played with}}. Elthina is ''usually'' willing to listen to the various groups in a conflict from a rather neutral position, break up immediate fights between their leaders... and that's basically it. Elthina does absolutely nothing to soothe tensions or pursue any kind of resolution to Kirkwall's problems, instead content to let them bubble beneath the surface, fostering more anger and resentment all around and pushing things closer to the boiling point. In addition, she often undermines the efforts of those who do seek some kind of resolution, including but not limited to having Hawke ''lie to the Divine'' about just how serious the Mage/Templar problems in Kirkwall are. [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome Unsurprisingly, the various political factions in Kirkwall get tired of Elthina doing absolutely nothing which causes the situation to spiral even out of Elthina's control]].control. Twice. She does, however, bring up some valid points on why she doesn't explicitly take a side, as that would only increase tensions. At the same time, her claim that her power is less than it seems falls flat because the Chantry Hierarchy places Elthina as Meredith's direct superior, and there is no indication that Elthina is actually doing anything about Meredith's flagrant violations of Chantry law. Hawke can also make the argument that staying neutral is effectively the same as siding with the Templars. Still, her death is what causes the tense stand-off to culminate in all-out slaughter.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Gaining freedom seemed like a great idea until she learned the hard way that Tevinter's economy is completely structured around slave labor. If you're not already a wealthy slave-owner or a slave yourself, there's pretty much no way to make a living (since wealthy slave owners won't bother to pay someone for work when they can make their slaves do it for free), so you're left out to dry. Not to mention the FantasticRacism against free elves in Tevinter...
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Lia is filled with pity for Kelder when Hawke meets her, because she can tell [[ReluctantPsycho he doesn't want to hurt her and is tormented by "demons."]] However, in the long run pitying her kidnapper doesn't undo the damage he caused her. If Hawke kills him, then she joins the city guard to protect other children like her. If Hawke refuses to kill him, then knowing the man who hurt her is still out there abducting and killing other unsuspecting children ([[WhatYouAreInTheDark and there are others like him]]) unravels her mental health, and she becomes afraid that [[TheyLookJustLikeEveryoneElse every man she meets is a "monster in disguise."]]
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* IrrationalHatred: Should Hawke let her go at the end of the "Act of Mercy" quest, she still [[spoiler: shows up [[spoiler:and kidnaps someone close to Hawke, refusing to let them then go, and tries to kill Hawke]]. Part of this is due to her blaming Hawke for killing Decimus (even though she clearly saw that Hawke acted in self-defense) and her own failure to escape the Templars. [[spoiler: Once she falls in battle, she comes back as a ''Pride'' abomination]], which makes it clear that she's too proud to admit to her failings that she projects her resentment onto Hawke instead.
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* IrrationalHatred: Should Hawke let her go at the end of the "Act of Mercy" quest, she still [[spoiler: shows up [[spoiler:and and kidnaps someone close to Hawke, refusing to let them then go, and tries to kill Hawke]]. Part of this is due to her blaming Hawke for killing Decimus (even though she clearly saw that Hawke acted in self-defense) and her own failure to escape the Templars. [[spoiler: Once she falls in battle, she comes back as a ''Pride'' abomination]], which makes it clear that she's too proud to admit to her failings that she projects her resentment onto Hawke instead.
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* NeutralInNameOnly: Hawke can accuse her of this. Because the Templars hold the legal power, and those same laws make Elthina their direct superior, Hawke argues that Elthina remaining "neutral" vs openly siding with the Templars is a DistinctionWithoutADifference.
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* StupidSacrifice: Mary Kirby, the writer for Merrill's story arc, stated that Marethari's "sacrifice" and Merrill's various sacrifices were an example of how some women’s instinct to willingly sacrifice and suffer for the sake of their loved ones cana become vicious and toxic.
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* StupidSacrifice: Mary Kirby, the writer for Merrill's story arc, stated that Marethari's "sacrifice" and Merrill's various sacrifices were an example of how some women’s instinct to willingly sacrifice and suffer for the sake of their loved ones cana can become vicious and toxic.
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* APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil: [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]]. Marethari ''believes'' Merrill is going down a dark path due to her belief that the eluvian, blood magic, and spirits are all inherently dangerous, and does everything in her power to prevent Merrill from restoring the eluvian. However, Merrill is shown to always mean well with her actions and uses every precaution to restore the eluvian slowly and carefully, with minimal risk to herself or others. Even if there was no complete guarantee that Merrill would be able to keep everything under control, Marethari's efforts to sabotage Merrill's research by any means necessary do far more harm than any of Merrill's research itself, [[spoiler:culminating in Marethari allowing the demon to possess her behind Merrill's back.]] Marethari ends up doing far more harm trying to prevent Merrill from researching the mirror than Merrill herself.
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* APupilOfMineUntilHeTurnedToEvil: [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]]. Marethari ''believes'' Merrill is going down a dark path due to her belief that the eluvian, blood magic, and spirits are all inherently dangerous, and does everything in her power to prevent Merrill from restoring the eluvian. However, Merrill is shown to always mean well with her actions and uses every precaution to restore the eluvian slowly and carefully, with carefully to ensure minimal risk to herself or others. Even if there was no complete guarantee that Merrill would be able to keep everything under control, Marethari's efforts to sabotage Merrill's research by any means necessary do far more harm than any of Merrill's research itself, [[spoiler:culminating in Marethari allowing the demon to possess her behind Merrill's back.]] Marethari ends up doing far more harm trying to prevent Merrill from researching the mirror than Merrill herself.]]
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* IGaveMyWord: Downplayed. When Merrill approaches Marethari to ask for the arulin'holm to repair the eluvian, she invokes a right where she performs a service for them, to which then they are honor-bound to fulfill her request. When said request is performed, Marethari does give the arulin'holm, but she gives it to Hawke rather than to Merrill in the hopes that they will withhold the artifact from Merrill. Marethari may have agreed to give the arulin'holm, but was never specific on who to give it to.
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* IGaveMyWord: Downplayed. When Merrill approaches Marethari to ask for the arulin'holm to repair the eluvian, she invokes a right where she performs a service for them, to which then they are honor-bound to fulfill her request. When said request is performed, Marethari does give the arulin'holm, but she gives it to Hawke rather than to Merrill in the hopes that they will withhold the artifact from Merrill. Marethari may have agreed to give the arulin'holm, but was never specific on her terms regarding who to she would give it to.
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: For all her flaws she has shown in her disagreement with Merrill and how she handles it, Marethari proves to be capable of governing ''other'' matters properly, like in Feynriel's case.
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: For all her the flaws she has shown in her disagreement with Merrill and how she handles it, their conflict, Marethari proves to be capable of governing ''other'' matters properly, like in Feynriel's case.
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* StupidSacrifice: Merrill’s story arc Mary Kirby, the writer Mary Kirby for Merrill's story arc, stated that Marethari’s “sacrifice” Marethari's "sacrifice" and Merrill’s Merrill's various sacrifices were an example of how some women’s instinct to willingly sacrifice and suffer for the sake of their loved ones, becomes ones cana become vicious and toxic.
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* IdiotBall: Like many Kirkwall residents, even after it becomes clear that her plan has failed and what she hoped to achieve wouldn't have been possible even if Hawke hadn't interfered, she becomes enraged by Hawke interfering anyway and attacks them. However, her words before attacking Hawke implies that she knows she's already done and decides to just go down killing more people while she still can.
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* IdiotBall: Like many Kirkwall residents, even after it becomes clear that her plan has failed and what she hoped to achieve wouldn't have been possible even if Hawke hadn't interfered, she becomes enraged by Hawke interfering anyway and attacks them. However, That being said, her words before attacking Hawke implies that she knows she's already done and decides to just go down killing more people while she still can.
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* SanitySlippage: It's clear that she's not all there. It's implied that she's been poisoned by the ''saar-qamek'', which helped erode her sanity.
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* SanitySlippage: It's clear that she's not all there.there by the time she shows herself to Hawke. It's implied that she's been poisoned by the ''saar-qamek'', which helped erode her sanity.
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** She is notorious for using the [[FateWorseThanDeath Rite of Tranquility]] at the slightest provocation, even on mages who have passed their Harrowings, which is explicitly forbidden by Chantry Law. One such instance described in ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'' was using the Rite on a mage who was having love letters passed between himself and a Templar lover using another Templar as a willing intermediary. The charge was "corrupting the moral integrity of a Templar." Cullen then says that this was ''[[UpToEleven not]]'' Meredith's most egregious abuse of the Rite. [[spoiler:This was all years ''before'' she got a hold of the [[ArtifactOfDoom lyrium idol]].]]
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* MoreHateableMinorVillain: Knight-Commander Meredith and First Enchanter Orsino may be the final bosses, but Mother Petrice is the game's main HateSink, being a paranoid bigot who constantly raises tensions between the Qunari and the rest of Kirkwall in the hopes of getting the Qunari banished from Kirkwall or killed off.
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* FreudianExcuse: Her sister was an apostate-turned-abomination who killed their family (apart from Meredith, obviously) and many villagers before eventually being slain by the Templars.
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* StupidSacrifice: Merrill’s story arc writer Mary Kirby stated that Marethari’s “sacrifice” and Merrill’s various sacrifices were an example of how some women’s instinct to willingly sacrifice and suffer for the sake of their loved ones, becomes vicious and toxic.
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* AdultFear: His daughter was kidnapped by a known SerialKiller, and law enforcement won't do a thing about it.
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---> '''Bran''': You don't watch a child become a man and not feel something when he is lost.