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21st Feb '17 6:03:48 PM tyouker
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* CripplingOverspecialization: Like most Qunari, he's extremely good at one thing (fighting battles) and at a complete loss when faced with problems that don't match his skill-set. If he knew anything about anything other than being a soldier, he wouldn't be such a terrible diplomat and might not have taken three years to [[spoiler: find one stolen book]].
13th Feb '17 6:14:36 PM malias
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2nd Feb '17 12:36:17 PM Repo
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** This trope is, actually, deliberately {{Invoked}} as [[spoiler: Anders killed Elthina to force these issues to a very public head to make Meredith look as bad as possible while simultaneously making the mages look as sympathetic as possible. Elthina's neutrality was proving to be an obstacle for all the other political factions in their attempts to find ''any'' resolution t the Mage/Templar conflict, so finally one of them just decided to get rid of her and move his plans ahead.]]
2nd Feb '17 12:33:09 PM Repo
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: A {{subversion}} of one. Elthina (at least one the surface) is ''usually'' willing to listen to the various groups in a conflict from a rather neutral position (the one notable exception being Orsino, at the start of Act 3, who she has arrested and sent back to the Circle Tower to ''prevent'' him from speaking out any more).... and that's basically it. Elthina does absolutely nothing to soothe tensions or pursue any kind of resolution to Kirkwall's problems, instead content to let them bubble beneath the surface, fostering more anger and resentment all around and pushing things closer to the boiling point. In addition, she often undermines the efforts of those who do seek some kind of resolution, including but not limited to having Hawke ''lie to the Divine'' about just how serious the Mage/Templar problems in Kirkwall are. [[RealityEnsues Unsurprisingly, the various political factions in Kirkwall get tired of Elthina doing absolutely nothing which causes the situation to spiral even out of Elthina's control]].
** [[spoiler: When Sister Petrice is killed by a Qunari assassin, her attitude is "the Qunari have their justice, let the bad blood die here."]]

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: A {{subversion}} of one. Elthina (at least one the surface) is ''usually'' willing to listen to the various groups in a conflict from a rather neutral position (the one notable exception being Orsino, at the start of Act 3, who she has arrested and sent back to the Circle Tower to ''prevent'' him from speaking out any more).... and that's basically it. Elthina does absolutely nothing to soothe tensions or pursue any kind of resolution to Kirkwall's problems, instead content to let them bubble beneath the surface, fostering more anger and resentment all around and pushing things closer to the boiling point. In addition, she often undermines the efforts of those who do seek some kind of resolution, including but not limited to having Hawke ''lie to the Divine'' about just how serious the Mage/Templar problems in Kirkwall are. [[RealityEnsues Unsurprisingly, the various political factions in Kirkwall get tired of Elthina doing absolutely nothing which causes the situation to spiral even out of Elthina's control]]. \n** [[spoiler: When Sister Petrice is killed by a Qunari assassin, her attitude is "the Qunari have their justice, let the bad blood die here."]] [[WhatAnIdiot Twice]].
2nd Feb '17 12:32:51 PM Repo
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure:
** Willing to listen to Hawke despite the fanatical rantings of Sister Petrice and is opposed to violence against the Qunari despite their mass conversions. She's also one of the very few powerful people in the Chantry willing to give consideration to the mages.
** [[spoiler:While certainly one of the most levelheaded leaders in Kirkwall, she could actually be seen as a subversion; while she will hear out both sides of an issue, she does very little to soothe tensions, fostering more anger and resentment all around and pushing things closer to the boiling point]].

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure:
** Willing
ReasonableAuthorityFigure: A {{subversion}} of one. Elthina (at least one the surface) is ''usually'' willing to listen to Hawke despite the fanatical rantings various groups in a conflict from a rather neutral position (the one notable exception being Orsino, at the start of Sister Petrice Act 3, who she has arrested and is opposed to violence against the Qunari despite their mass conversions. She's also one of the very few powerful people in the Chantry willing to give consideration sent back to the mages.
** [[spoiler:While certainly one of the most levelheaded leaders in Kirkwall, she could actually be seen as a subversion; while she will hear
Circle Tower to ''prevent'' him from speaking out both sides of an issue, she any more).... and that's basically it. Elthina does very little absolutely nothing to soothe tensions, tensions or pursue any kind of resolution to Kirkwall's problems, instead content to let them bubble beneath the surface, fostering more anger and resentment all around and pushing things closer to the boiling point]].point. In addition, she often undermines the efforts of those who do seek some kind of resolution, including but not limited to having Hawke ''lie to the Divine'' about just how serious the Mage/Templar problems in Kirkwall are. [[RealityEnsues Unsurprisingly, the various political factions in Kirkwall get tired of Elthina doing absolutely nothing which causes the situation to spiral even out of Elthina's control]].
23rd Dec '16 11:32:35 AM nighttrainfm
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* RevengeByProxy: [[spoiler:She never forgives Hawke for Decimus's death,]] and attempts this with a hostage [[spoiler:who is important to Hawke - the surviving sibling if they're still alive, or the LoveInterest if they're not, or Hawke's closest friend if there is no LoveInterest]].

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* RevengeByProxy: [[spoiler:She never forgives Hawke for Decimus's death,]] and attempts this with a hostage [[spoiler:who is important to Hawke - the surviving sibling if they're still alive, or the LoveInterest if they're not, or Hawke's closest friend if there is no LoveInterest]].LoveInterest.]]



-->'''Varric''': I had a feeling when we first met you weren't the grateful type.

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-->'''Varric''': I had a feeling when we first met you weren't the grateful type.



** If you hand her over to the Templars.

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** If you hand her over to the Templars. It doesn't help that Karras is right there being awful.



* ReluctantRuler: By ''Inquisition'', he gets pushed into the Viscount's seat by "unpopular vote". His reluctant isn't so much self-doubt as him understandably not wanting the hassle.

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* ReluctantRuler: By ''Inquisition'', he gets pushed into the Viscount's seat by "unpopular vote". His reluctant reluctance isn't so much self-doubt as him understandably not wanting the hassle.
14th Dec '16 12:50:04 PM CrimsonZephyr
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* MilitaryCoup: Viscount Dumar was installed as a part of one, when the Templars overthrew Perrin Threnhold under her leadership. The official party line in the Chantry was that Threnhold was a heretic and Meredith's campaign an informal crusade, but her detractors note that Threnhold's major offense was that he was obstructing Orlesian trade. Opinion on her was therefore divided between "holy warrior" and "Orlesian stooge."
3rd Dec '16 9:55:20 PM Nouct
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* {{Badass}}: [[spoiler:The FinalBattle consists of her versus your ''entire team'', plus Cullen and (potentially) Donnic, Nathaniel, and Zevran, and for all intents and purposes she is ''winning''. The only reason she actually goes down is because she overdoses on the power from her Lyrium sword, leaving her TakenForGranite.]]



* EstablishingCharacterMoment: Her first introduction to Hawke features her taking out a Qunari Saarabas in the most BadAss fashion.

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* EstablishingCharacterMoment: Her first introduction to Hawke features her taking out a Qunari Saarabas in the most BadAss badass fashion.



* {{Badass}}: If you pay attention in the extended version of the "Destiny" trailer, you can see that the staircase behind the Arishok is literally carpeted with all the guards that he had to fight through, apparently alone and without suffering so much as a scratch.



* UnderestimatingBadassery: Kirkwall is full of {{Badass}}es, on both sides of the field, but the Arishok couldn't care less about anybody who isn't Hawke. This is made abundantly clear when [[DaChief Aveline]], a woman hardcore enough to beat darkspawn to death with her ''bare hands'', confronts him about [[spoiler:the elven fugitives]]; he all but ignores her and focuses on talking to Hawke instead.

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* UnderestimatingBadassery: Kirkwall is full of {{Badass}}es, badasses, on both sides of the field, but the Arishok couldn't care less about anybody who isn't Hawke. This is made abundantly clear when [[DaChief Aveline]], a woman hardcore enough to beat darkspawn to death with her ''bare hands'', confronts him about [[spoiler:the elven fugitives]]; he all but ignores her and focuses on talking to Hawke instead.



* {{Badass}}: As the situation in Kirkwall has deteriorated, by Act III, Donnic's patrols are frequently ambushed, leaving him fighting for his life at least ''twice'' a week! Donnic then mentions that he actually ''asked'' for the most dangerous patrols, since as one of the most capable fighters, they'd lose a lot more guards if he ''wasn't'' there!
** BadassNormal: As normal as the setting gets; no magic, no legendary weapons and armor, only as much martial training as Aveline introduces to the guard, and faces throngs of gangsters on what he considers to be a good day. He gets a DistressedDude moment when Aveline rescues him in Act I, but after that he's a dedicated asskicker.
** [[spoiler:He helps out in the FinalBattle, if Aveline is in your active party.]]

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* {{Badass}}: As the situation in Kirkwall has deteriorated, by Act III, Donnic's patrols are frequently ambushed, leaving him fighting for his life at least ''twice'' a week! Donnic then mentions that he actually ''asked'' for the most dangerous patrols, since as one of the most capable fighters, they'd lose a lot more guards if he ''wasn't'' there!
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BadassNormal: As normal as the setting gets; no magic, no legendary weapons and armor, only as much martial training as Aveline introduces to the guard, and faces throngs of gangsters on what he considers to be a good day. He gets a DistressedDude moment when Aveline rescues him in Act I, but after that he's a dedicated asskicker.
** [[spoiler:He
asskicker. [[spoiler:And he helps out in the FinalBattle, if Aveline is in your active party.]]
16th Nov '16 2:03:42 PM Discar
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* PetTheDog: Siding with Meredith and working with her in Act III shows a human side to her. If [[AManIsNotAVirgin Emile de Launcet]] is convinced to surrender without incident, she thinks of executing him, but his father pleads that he was merely an idiot. Hawke can comment that he said he was a blood mage just to impress girls. Meredith laughs, and simply imprisons him.

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* PetTheDog: Siding with Meredith and working with her in Act III shows a human side to her. If [[AManIsNotAVirgin Emile de Launcet]] is convinced to surrender without incident, she thinks of executing him, but his father pleads that he was merely an idiot. Hawke can comment that he said he was a blood mage just to impress girls. Meredith laughs, and simply imprisons him.
25th Oct '16 3:41:54 PM Teakay
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** And for all her crackdowns, not only did the Templars completely fail to stop [[spoiler:Quentin]], in one of the companion quests a ''[[spoiler:literal Tevinter magister]]'' can waltz in and out of Kirkwall with impunity.
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