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25th Apr '16 5:30:31 PM nighttrainfm
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* {{Badass}}: [[spoiler:The FinalBattle consists of her versus your ''entire team'', plus Cullen, and plus (potentially) Donnic, Nathaniel, and Zevran, and for all intents and purposes she is ''winning''. The only reason she actually goes down is because she overdoses on the power from her Lyrium sword, leaving her TakenForGranite.]]

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* {{Badass}}: [[spoiler:The FinalBattle consists of her versus your ''entire team'', plus Cullen, Cullen and plus (potentially) Donnic, Nathaniel, and Zevran, and for all intents and purposes she is ''winning''. The only reason she actually goes down is because she overdoses on the power from her Lyrium sword, leaving her TakenForGranite.]]
21st Apr '16 10:41:57 AM nighttrainfm
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** For all she claims to be serving the Chantry and following the Maker's will, Meredith frequently violates Chantry law, such as extending her abuse of the Rite of Tranquility to Mages that have passed their Harrowings. [[spoiler:She only got worse after she bought the idol]].

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** For all she claims to be serving the Chantry and following the Maker's will, Meredith frequently violates Chantry law, such as extending her abuse of the Rite of Tranquility to Mages that have passed their Harrowings. [[spoiler:She only got worse after she bought the idol]]. idol.]]


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** She rationalizes everything she does as a necessity to protect innocent people from mages. Should Hawke question her extreme methods, she brings up [[spoiler: Quentin's murder of Leandra]] and effectively blames it on ''Hawke.'' The fact that, in nearly a decade, exactly one of her Templars showed any interest in the offender doesn't seem to occur to her.
11th Apr '16 5:19:31 AM NanoMoose
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* NotSoDifferen[=/=]{{Foil}}: Her backstory actually resembles that of a non-mage Hawke, from the mage younger sibling to being a [[SelfMadeMan Self-Made Woman]]. Particularly noticeable if [[spoiler:a non-Mage Hawke chooses the Templar ending, where they ascend to the Viscountcy, much like Meredith had assumed power after Dumar's death.]]

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* NotSoDifferen[=/=]{{Foil}}: NotSoDifferent[=/=]{{Foil}}: Her backstory actually resembles that of a non-mage Hawke, from the mage younger sibling to being a [[SelfMadeMan Self-Made Woman]]. Particularly noticeable if [[spoiler:a non-Mage Hawke chooses the Templar ending, where they ascend to the Viscountcy, much like Meredith had assumed power after Dumar's death.]]
11th Apr '16 5:18:13 AM NanoMoose
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* {{Badass}}: [[spoiler:The FinalBattle consists of her versus your ENTIRE team plus Cullen and (potentially) Donnic, Nathaniel, and Zevran, and for all intents and purposes she is '''WINNING'''. The only reason she actually goes down is because she overdoses on the power from her Lyrium sword, leaving her TakenForGranite.]]
* BadBoss: She turned Samson onto the street for carrying letters to Maddox's sweetheart; as Varric puts it, she's "not a high bar" to clear as an employer.

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* {{Badass}}: [[spoiler:The FinalBattle consists of her versus your ENTIRE team ''entire team'', plus Cullen Cullen, and plus (potentially) Donnic, Nathaniel, and Zevran, and for all intents and purposes she is '''WINNING'''.''winning''. The only reason she actually goes down is because she overdoses on the power from her Lyrium sword, leaving her TakenForGranite.]]
* BadBoss: She turned Samson onto the street for carrying letters to Maddox's sweetheart; as Varric puts it, she's "not a high bar" to clear as an a reasonable employer.



** [[spoiler:If Hawke is a Mage, it's implied she's under the delusion that they've used BloodMagic to enthrall her fellow Templars against her. When Cullen, her loyal second-in-command, informs her that to get to Hawke she'll have to [[GoThroughMe go through them]], it only serves to convince her further.]]

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** [[spoiler:If Hawke is a Mage, it's implied she's under the delusion that they've used BloodMagic to enthrall enthral her fellow Templars against her. When Cullen, her loyal second-in-command, informs her that to get to Hawke she'll have to [[GoThroughMe go through them]], it only serves to convince her further.]]



** [[spoiler: Meredith's response to an apostate blowing up the Chantry was to wipe out an unrelated Circle of Magi. Orsino and Sebastian both [[LampshadeHanging lampshade]] this. [[BatmanGambit Anders was counting on it.]]]]

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** [[spoiler: Meredith's response to an apostate blowing up the Chantry was to wipe out an unrelated Circle of Magi. Orsino and Sebastian both [[LampshadeHanging lampshade]] this. this, and [[BatmanGambit Anders was counting on it.]]]]



* EstablishingCharacterMoment: Her first introduction to Hawke features her taking out a Qunari Sarabas in the most BadAss fashion.
* EvenEvilHasStandards: In the Anders companion quest "Dissent," you'll find a letter that states that Meredith rejected a proposal by an especially extreme Templar to make ''all'' mages in the Free Marches Tranquil (though it is debatable whether she has genuine moral objections or just thinks the Chantry would never go along with it).

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* EstablishingCharacterMoment: Her first introduction to Hawke features her taking out a Qunari Sarabas Saarabas in the most BadAss fashion.
* EvenEvilHasStandards: In the Anders companion quest "Dissent," you'll find a letter that states that Meredith rejected a proposal by an especially extreme Templar to make ''all'' mages in the Free Marches Tranquil (though it is debatable whether she has genuine moral her objections were moral, practical, or just thinks because she knew the Chantry would never go along with it).agree).



* {{Foreshadowing}} : One of the more common loading screens shows a painting of her becoming dark and corrupted.

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* {{Foreshadowing}} : {{Foreshadowing}}: One of the more common loading screens shows a painting of her becoming dark and corrupted.



* GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave: Snarky!Hawke even comments on it.

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* GrandmaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave: Snarky!Hawke even comments on it.it - she's athletic, intense, and has a kind of harsh and practical beauty that improves with age. Too bad about the personality attached.



* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: While not exactly a nice person, what's clear is that by the time of ''Inquisition'', even those who support the Templars blame her for most of the problems in Kirkwall and the start of the Mage Rebellion. Though she may have had a point regarding some cases, her methods were frowned up by everyone. [[spoiler:By the time of the ''Trespasser'' DLC, everyone in Kirkwall pretty much celebrated when her petrified remains were finally removed]] and Ser Jerran, a former Templar from Kirkwall-turned-Qunari, pretty much said that Meredith was mad and that only the Viddasala was worse.

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* HistoricalVillainUpgrade: While not she was never exactly a nice person, what's clear is that by the time of ''Inquisition'', even those who support the Templars blame her for most of the problems in Kirkwall and the start of the Mage Rebellion. Though she may have had a point regarding some cases, her methods were frowned up by everyone. [[spoiler:By the time of the ''Trespasser'' DLC, everyone in Kirkwall pretty much celebrated when her petrified remains were finally removed]] and Ser Jerran, a former Templar from Kirkwall-turned-Qunari, pretty much said that Meredith was mad and that only the Viddasala was worse.



** [[spoiler:Sees magic as a curse, and mages as a major threat to her city who must be contained at all costs. So she uses an ancient magical artifact to give herself magical superpowers and animate statues to indiscriminately attack people in the final battle. While at least some of her decline can be attributed to the influence of the artifact, that she ''chose'' to purchase it from Bartrand (apparently without her colleagues' knowledge) and use it to begin with is certainly suspect.]]

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** [[spoiler:Sees magic as a curse, and mages as a major threat to her city who must be contained at all costs. So she uses an ancient magical artifact to give herself magical superpowers and magically animate statues to indiscriminately attack people in the final battle. While at least some of her decline can be attributed to the influence of the artifact, that she ''chose'' to purchase it from Bartrand (apparently without her colleagues' knowledge) and use it to begin with is certainly suspect.]]



* IronLady: Varric calls her such at one point.

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* IronLady: Varric calls her such at one point. Cullen further refers to her having a "spine of iron".



* NotSoDifferent / {{Foil}}: Her backstory actually resembles that of a non-mage Hawke, from the mage younger sibling to being a [[SelfMadeMan Self-Made Woman]]. Particularly noticeable if [[spoiler:a non-Mage Hawke chooses the Templar ending, where they ascend to the Viscountcy, much like Meredith had assumed power after Dumar's death.]]

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* NotSoDifferent / {{Foil}}: NotSoDifferen[=/=]{{Foil}}: Her backstory actually resembles that of a non-mage Hawke, from the mage younger sibling to being a [[SelfMadeMan Self-Made Woman]]. Particularly noticeable if [[spoiler:a non-Mage Hawke chooses the Templar ending, where they ascend to the Viscountcy, much like Meredith had assumed power after Dumar's death.]]



* PunctuatedForEmphasis: "Blessed are those who stand before the corrupt and the wicked and DO! NOT! FALTER!"

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* PunctuatedForEmphasis: "Blessed are those who stand before the corrupt and the wicked and DO! NOT! FALTER!"''do! Not! Falter!''"



* SlaveToPR: [[spoiler:She claims to be this when invoking the Right of Annulment, claiming that the people of Kirkwall will want blood in retaliation for the destruction of the Chantry. Ultimately, though, she reveals that she is pursuing her own agenda, as [[WellIntentionedExtremist the destruction of the Kirkwall Circle is not enough to satisfy her sense of "justice."]]]]

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* SlaveToPR: [[spoiler:She [[spoiler:as she claims to be this when invoking the Right of Annulment, claiming saying that the people of Kirkwall will want blood in retaliation for the destruction of the Chantry. Ultimately, though, she reveals that she is pursuing her own agenda, as [[WellIntentionedExtremist the destruction of the Kirkwall Circle is not enough to satisfy her sense of "justice."]]]]



* WellIntentionedExtremist: Averted at the end. For much of the story, her harsh methods ''can'' be justified by the chaotic conditions in the city and her desire to bring some manner of order... until [[spoiler: she decides to exterminate the Kirkwall Circle of Magi for a crime they did not commit.]] She has many opportunities to achieve her goals without extremism -- or at least without acting on it. By the ending, it's clear she's in it for the bloodbath. She's a one-woman example of how extremism erodes well-intentioned aims.

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: Averted at in the end. For much of the story, her harsh methods ''can'' be justified by the chaotic conditions in the city and her desire to bring some manner of order... until [[spoiler: she decides to exterminate the Kirkwall Circle of Magi for a crime they did not commit.]] She has many opportunities to achieve her goals without extremism -- or at least without acting on it. By the ending, it's clear she's in it for the bloodbath. She's a one-woman example of how extremism erodes well-intentioned aims.
24th Feb '16 3:57:01 PM Tahaneira
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** She also seems to think the Grand Cleric is very, very stupid. Unless you actively play along with her attempt to frame you <script id="gpt-impl-0.3293447572565565" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_80.js"></script>she'll talk herself into being surrendered to the guards for her deeds.

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** She also seems to think the Grand Cleric is very, very stupid. Unless you actively play along with her attempt to frame you <script id="gpt-impl-0.3293447572565565" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_80.js"></script>she'll she'll talk herself into being surrendered to the guards for her deeds.
24th Feb '16 7:20:06 AM outlander2012
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** She also seems to think the Grand Cleric is very, very stupid. Unless you actively play along with her attempt to frame you she'll talk herself into being surrendered to the guards for her deeds.

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** She also seems to think the Grand Cleric is very, very stupid. Unless you actively play along with her attempt to frame you she'll <script id="gpt-impl-0.3293447572565565" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_80.js"></script>she'll talk herself into being surrendered to the guards for her deeds.



* EvenEvilHasStandards: In the Anders companion quest "Dissent," you'll find a letter that states that Meredith rejected a proposal by an especially extreme Templar to make ''all'' mages in the Free Marches Tranquil.

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* EvenEvilHasStandards: In the Anders companion quest "Dissent," you'll find a letter that states that Meredith rejected a proposal by an especially extreme Templar to make ''all'' mages in the Free Marches Tranquil.Tranquil (though it is debatable whether she has genuine moral objections or just thinks the Chantry would never go along with it).


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** Templars vow never to hold worldly power, but Meredith is Viscount in all but name, refuses to allow the election of a new Viscount and effectively turns Kirkwall into a police state where she and her cronies have free reign. Many of the (albeit few) moderate Templars in Kirkwall explicitly believe she is more interested in consolidating power than doing her duties.
9th Feb '16 2:05:32 AM BigLenny
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[[folder:Seneschal Bran]]
!!Seneschal/Provisional Viscount Bran

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[[folder:Seneschal Bran]]
Bran Cavin]]
!!Seneschal/Provisional Viscount BranBran Cavin
8th Feb '16 11:02:48 PM BigLenny
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!!!Tal'Vashoth

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!!!Tal'Vashoth
!!!Tal-Vashoth



A minor character and Tal'Vashoth, Maraas leaves the Qun to take up life as a mercenary.

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A minor character and Tal'Vashoth, Tal-Vashoth, Maraas leaves the Qun to take up life as a mercenary.



* DefectorFromDecadence: Leaves the Tal'Vashoth raiders because he doesn't want to steal or murder from caravans, and becomes a mercenary. In his words, [[BlueAndOrangeMorality this makes him worse]] than the Tal'Vashoth; he's selling his sword and his honor for coin.
-->'''Maraas:''' I did not like my "role," so I left the Qun. I did not wish to be a murdering thief, so I left the Tal'Vashoth to warn their... victims. ''You'' are no victim.
* HiredGuns: Tal'Vashoth tend to be this, since the stigma surrounding Qunari and their own lack of training for anything else [[WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer leaves them with little choice]]. Maraas got tired of that as well.
* MeaningfulName: After leaving the Tal'Vashoth, he chose to name himself Maraas, making him the first kossith encountered to explicitly have a name rather than just a rank/role. ''Maraas'' means "Nothing" in the Qunari language, referring to how he has no role or purpose beyond that which he chooses.

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* DefectorFromDecadence: Leaves the Tal'Vashoth Tal-Vashoth raiders because he doesn't want to steal or murder from caravans, and becomes a mercenary. In his words, [[BlueAndOrangeMorality this makes him worse]] than the Tal'Vashoth; Tal-Vashoth; he's selling his sword and his honor for coin.
-->'''Maraas:''' I did not like my "role," so I left the Qun. I did not wish to be a murdering thief, so I left the Tal'Vashoth Tal-Vashoth to warn their... victims. ''You'' are no victim.
* HiredGuns: Tal'Vashoth Tal-Vashoth tend to be this, since the stigma surrounding Qunari and their own lack of training for anything else [[WhenAllYouHaveIsAHammer leaves them with little choice]]. Maraas got tired of that as well.
* MeaningfulName: After leaving the Tal'Vashoth, Tal-Vashoth, he chose to name himself Maraas, making him the first kossith encountered to explicitly have a name rather than just a rank/role. ''Maraas'' means "Nothing" in the Qunari language, referring to how he has no role or purpose beyond that which he chooses.
8th Feb '16 9:24:45 AM Scabbard
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* FromACertainPointOfView / MetaphoricallyTrue: At the beginning of Act II, it's mentioned that the Qunari are supposedly waiting for a second ship before they will return home. The could be considered a truthful statement, since we later learn [[spoiler:they're looking for the stolen Tome of Koslun, which was aboard the ''Siren's Call'' when it was sunk during the same storm that stranded the Qunari. In other words, they're waiting ''to find'' the second ship that arrived ''with'' them, in the hopes of retrieving its precious cargo]].

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* FromACertainPointOfView / MetaphoricallyTrue: At the beginning of Act II, it's mentioned that the Qunari are supposedly waiting for a second ship before they will return home. The This could be considered a truthful statement, since we later learn [[spoiler:they're looking for the stolen Tome of Koslun, which was aboard the ''Siren's Call'' when it was sunk during the same storm that stranded the Qunari. In other words, they're waiting ''to find'' the second ship that arrived ''with'' them, in the hopes of retrieving its precious cargo]].
3rd Feb '16 2:57:16 PM RainbowPhoenix
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* ThePlotReaper: [[spoiler: The only person in Kirkwall keeping Meredith from wholesale slaughter of the Circle. Once she's gone, Meredith leaps at the chance to invoke the Rite of Annulment.]]

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* ThePlotReaper: [[spoiler: The only person in Kirkwall keeping Meredith from wholesale slaughter of the Circle. Once she's gone, Meredith leaps at the chance to invoke the Rite Right of Annulment.]]



* MisplacedRetribution: [[spoiler:Calling for the [[ThePurge Rite of Annulment]] in response to the destruction of the Chantry. Meredith knows that Anders was never a resident of the Gallows; she was just looking for an excuse to purge the Kirkwall Circle, and had been for some time. Her excuse was so flimsy that several other Circles revolted on the spot when news reached them, and the ones that didn't started on the path toward total war.]]

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* MisplacedRetribution: [[spoiler:Calling for the [[ThePurge Rite Right of Annulment]] in response to the destruction of the Chantry. Meredith knows that Anders was never a resident of the Gallows; she was just looking for an excuse to purge the Kirkwall Circle, and had been for some time. Her excuse was so flimsy that several other Circles revolted on the spot when news reached them, and the ones that didn't started on the path toward total war.]]



* SlaveToPR: [[spoiler:She claims to be this when invoking the Rite of Annulment, claiming that the people of Kirkwall will want blood in retaliation for the destruction of the Chantry. Ultimately, though, she reveals that she is pursuing her own agenda, as [[WellIntentionedExtremist the destruction of the Kirkwall Circle is not enough to satisfy her sense of "justice."]]]]

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* SlaveToPR: [[spoiler:She claims to be this when invoking the Rite Right of Annulment, claiming that the people of Kirkwall will want blood in retaliation for the destruction of the Chantry. Ultimately, though, she reveals that she is pursuing her own agenda, as [[WellIntentionedExtremist the destruction of the Kirkwall Circle is not enough to satisfy her sense of "justice."]]]]



* MortonsFork: Orsino's conundrum with Kirkwall's [[spoiler:blood mages. If Meredith finds out about them on her own, she would likely use it as justification for the Rite of Annulment. If he turns them in, she has deteriorated to the point where she might use as an excuse to call for the Rite anyway.]]

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* MortonsFork: Orsino's conundrum with Kirkwall's [[spoiler:blood mages. If Meredith finds out about them on her own, she would likely use it as justification for the Rite Right of Annulment. If he turns them in, she has deteriorated to the point where she might use as an excuse to call for the Rite anyway.]]
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