History Characters / DragonAgeIINonPlayableCharacters

23rd Apr '17 4:20:28 AM nighttrainfm
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* TheBadGuyWins: [[spoiler:Even if she gets her comeuppance, Kirkwall eventually comes to war with the Qunari, which ends with them leaving: exactly what she wanted]].

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* TheBadGuyWins: [[spoiler:Even if she gets her comeuppance, Kirkwall eventually comes to war with the Qunari, which ends with them leaving: exactly what she wanted]].wanted.]]



* ImpoverishedPatrician: According to ''World of Thedas'', Petrice is a BlueBlood whose family lost their holdings when she was young. It explains a lot about her desire for power and influence.



* UnderestimatingBadassery: When you first meet her, she hires you [[spoiler: fully expecting you to die to advance her agenda]]. When you get back, after killing a squad of Qunari, she makes the... [[TooDumbToLive questionable]] decision to outright tell you this, expecting you to just disappear in Lowtown. Years later, after you're made nobility and you've made a name for yourself, she's still largely dismissive of you and [[SmugSnake expects you to play right into her hands.]]
** She also seems to think the Grand Cleric is very, very stupid. Unless you actively play along with her attempt to frame you she'll talk herself into being surrendered to the guards for her deeds.

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* UnderestimatingBadassery: UnderestimatingBadassery:
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When you first meet her, she hires you [[spoiler: fully expecting you to die to advance her agenda]]. When you get back, after killing a squad of Qunari, she makes the... [[TooDumbToLive questionable]] decision to outright tell you this, expecting you to just disappear in Lowtown. Years later, after you're made nobility and you've made a name for yourself, she's still largely dismissive of you and [[SmugSnake expects you to play right into her hands.]]
** She also seems to think the Grand Cleric is very, very stupid. Unless you actively play along with her attempt to frame you you, she'll talk herself into being surrendered to the guards for her deeds.
30th Mar '17 9:02:45 AM Forenperser
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: A {{subversion}} of one. Elthina (at least one the surface) is ''usually'' willing to listen to the various groups in a conflict from a rather neutral position (the one notable exception being Orsino, at the start of Act 3, who she has arrested and sent back to the Circle Tower to ''prevent'' him from speaking out any more).... and that's basically it. Elthina does absolutely nothing to soothe tensions or pursue any kind of resolution to Kirkwall's problems, instead content to let them bubble beneath the surface, fostering more anger and resentment all around and pushing things closer to the boiling point. In addition, she often undermines the efforts of those who do seek some kind of resolution, including but not limited to having Hawke ''lie to the Divine'' about just how serious the Mage/Templar problems in Kirkwall are. [[RealityEnsues Unsurprisingly, the various political factions in Kirkwall get tired of Elthina doing absolutely nothing which causes the situation to spiral even out of Elthina's control]]. [[WhatAnIdiot Twice]].

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: A {{subversion}} of one. {{Played with}}. Elthina (at least one the surface) is ''usually'' willing to listen to the various groups in a conflict from a rather neutral position (the one notable exception being Orsino, at the start of Act 3, who she has arrested and sent back to the Circle Tower to ''prevent'' him from speaking out any more)....position .... and that's basically it. Elthina does absolutely nothing to soothe tensions or pursue any kind of resolution to Kirkwall's problems, instead content to let them bubble beneath the surface, fostering more anger and resentment all around and pushing things closer to the boiling point. In addition, she often undermines the efforts of those who do seek some kind of resolution, including but not limited to having Hawke ''lie to the Divine'' about just how serious the Mage/Templar problems in Kirkwall are. [[RealityEnsues Unsurprisingly, the various political factions in Kirkwall get tired of Elthina doing absolutely nothing which causes the situation to spiral even out of Elthina's control]]. [[WhatAnIdiot Twice]].Twice. She does, however, bring up some valid points on why she doesn't explicitly take a side, as that would only increase tensions. She also mentions that her power is not as great as many believe it is and that she is basically doing all she can.
8th Mar '17 10:29:57 PM tyouker
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* CripplingOverspecialization: Like most Qunari, he's extremely good at one thing and easily frustrated by problems that don't match his skill-set. If he knew anything about anything other than being a soldier, he wouldn't be such a terrible diplomat and might not have taken three years to [[spoiler: find one stolen book]].

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* CripplingOverspecialization: Like most Qunari, he's extremely good at one thing and easily frustrated by problems that don't match his skill-set. If he knew anything about anything other than being a soldier, he wouldn't be narrow skill-set, which is why he's such a terrible diplomat and might not have taken spends three years stuck in Kirkwall trying to [[spoiler: find one stolen book]].
8th Mar '17 10:24:46 PM tyouker
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* CripplingOverspecialization: Like most Qunari, he's extremely good at one thing (fighting battles) and at a complete loss when faced with problems that don't match his skill-set. If he knew anything about anything other than being a soldier, he wouldn't be such a terrible diplomat and might not have taken three years to [[spoiler: find one stolen book]].

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* CripplingOverspecialization: Like most Qunari, he's extremely good at one thing (fighting battles) and at a complete loss when faced with easily frustrated by problems that don't match his skill-set. If he knew anything about anything other than being a soldier, he wouldn't be such a terrible diplomat and might not have taken three years to [[spoiler: find one stolen book]].
21st Feb '17 6:03:48 PM tyouker
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* CripplingOverspecialization: Like most Qunari, he's extremely good at one thing (fighting battles) and at a complete loss when faced with problems that don't match his skill-set. If he knew anything about anything other than being a soldier, he wouldn't be such a terrible diplomat and might not have taken three years to [[spoiler: find one stolen book]].
13th Feb '17 6:14:36 PM malias
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2nd Feb '17 12:36:17 PM Repo
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** This trope is, actually, deliberately {{Invoked}} as [[spoiler: Anders killed Elthina to force these issues to a very public head to make Meredith look as bad as possible while simultaneously making the mages look as sympathetic as possible. Elthina's neutrality was proving to be an obstacle for all the other political factions in their attempts to find ''any'' resolution t the Mage/Templar conflict, so finally one of them just decided to get rid of her and move his plans ahead.]]
2nd Feb '17 12:33:09 PM Repo
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: A {{subversion}} of one. Elthina (at least one the surface) is ''usually'' willing to listen to the various groups in a conflict from a rather neutral position (the one notable exception being Orsino, at the start of Act 3, who she has arrested and sent back to the Circle Tower to ''prevent'' him from speaking out any more).... and that's basically it. Elthina does absolutely nothing to soothe tensions or pursue any kind of resolution to Kirkwall's problems, instead content to let them bubble beneath the surface, fostering more anger and resentment all around and pushing things closer to the boiling point. In addition, she often undermines the efforts of those who do seek some kind of resolution, including but not limited to having Hawke ''lie to the Divine'' about just how serious the Mage/Templar problems in Kirkwall are. [[RealityEnsues Unsurprisingly, the various political factions in Kirkwall get tired of Elthina doing absolutely nothing which causes the situation to spiral even out of Elthina's control]].
** [[spoiler: When Sister Petrice is killed by a Qunari assassin, her attitude is "the Qunari have their justice, let the bad blood die here."]]

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: A {{subversion}} of one. Elthina (at least one the surface) is ''usually'' willing to listen to the various groups in a conflict from a rather neutral position (the one notable exception being Orsino, at the start of Act 3, who she has arrested and sent back to the Circle Tower to ''prevent'' him from speaking out any more).... and that's basically it. Elthina does absolutely nothing to soothe tensions or pursue any kind of resolution to Kirkwall's problems, instead content to let them bubble beneath the surface, fostering more anger and resentment all around and pushing things closer to the boiling point. In addition, she often undermines the efforts of those who do seek some kind of resolution, including but not limited to having Hawke ''lie to the Divine'' about just how serious the Mage/Templar problems in Kirkwall are. [[RealityEnsues Unsurprisingly, the various political factions in Kirkwall get tired of Elthina doing absolutely nothing which causes the situation to spiral even out of Elthina's control]]. \n** [[spoiler: When Sister Petrice is killed by a Qunari assassin, her attitude is "the Qunari have their justice, let the bad blood die here."]] [[WhatAnIdiot Twice]].
2nd Feb '17 12:32:51 PM Repo
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure:
** Willing to listen to Hawke despite the fanatical rantings of Sister Petrice and is opposed to violence against the Qunari despite their mass conversions. She's also one of the very few powerful people in the Chantry willing to give consideration to the mages.
** [[spoiler:While certainly one of the most levelheaded leaders in Kirkwall, she could actually be seen as a subversion; while she will hear out both sides of an issue, she does very little to soothe tensions, fostering more anger and resentment all around and pushing things closer to the boiling point]].

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure:
** Willing
ReasonableAuthorityFigure: A {{subversion}} of one. Elthina (at least one the surface) is ''usually'' willing to listen to Hawke despite the fanatical rantings various groups in a conflict from a rather neutral position (the one notable exception being Orsino, at the start of Sister Petrice Act 3, who she has arrested and is opposed to violence against the Qunari despite their mass conversions. She's also one of the very few powerful people in the Chantry willing to give consideration sent back to the mages.
** [[spoiler:While certainly one of the most levelheaded leaders in Kirkwall, she could actually be seen as a subversion; while she will hear
Circle Tower to ''prevent'' him from speaking out both sides of an issue, she any more).... and that's basically it. Elthina does very little absolutely nothing to soothe tensions, tensions or pursue any kind of resolution to Kirkwall's problems, instead content to let them bubble beneath the surface, fostering more anger and resentment all around and pushing things closer to the boiling point]].point. In addition, she often undermines the efforts of those who do seek some kind of resolution, including but not limited to having Hawke ''lie to the Divine'' about just how serious the Mage/Templar problems in Kirkwall are. [[RealityEnsues Unsurprisingly, the various political factions in Kirkwall get tired of Elthina doing absolutely nothing which causes the situation to spiral even out of Elthina's control]].
23rd Dec '16 11:32:35 AM nighttrainfm
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* RevengeByProxy: [[spoiler:She never forgives Hawke for Decimus's death,]] and attempts this with a hostage [[spoiler:who is important to Hawke - the surviving sibling if they're still alive, or the LoveInterest if they're not, or Hawke's closest friend if there is no LoveInterest]].

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* RevengeByProxy: [[spoiler:She never forgives Hawke for Decimus's death,]] and attempts this with a hostage [[spoiler:who is important to Hawke - the surviving sibling if they're still alive, or the LoveInterest if they're not, or Hawke's closest friend if there is no LoveInterest]].LoveInterest.]]



-->'''Varric''': I had a feeling when we first met you weren't the grateful type.

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-->'''Varric''': I had a feeling when we first met you weren't the grateful type.



** If you hand her over to the Templars.

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** If you hand her over to the Templars. It doesn't help that Karras is right there being awful.



* ReluctantRuler: By ''Inquisition'', he gets pushed into the Viscount's seat by "unpopular vote". His reluctant isn't so much self-doubt as him understandably not wanting the hassle.

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* ReluctantRuler: By ''Inquisition'', he gets pushed into the Viscount's seat by "unpopular vote". His reluctant reluctance isn't so much self-doubt as him understandably not wanting the hassle.
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