History Characters / BerserkAntagonists

25th Aug '16 8:54:33 AM Elyana
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* HazyFeelTurn: He's no longer a truly antagonistic force in the story, sitting out the Kushan war after learning of his emperor's [[HumanoidAbomination true nature]] and eventually [[spoiler:aligning himself against Griffith]], but whether this puts him squarely on Guts' side isn't clear.
21st Aug '16 3:02:27 AM Shadeblade11
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* CreepyTwins: To be expected when they torture people for a living. It's not the case when they're seen [[PetTheDog playing with some crows]], though.
* DepravedDwarf: This goes without saying for the small one, though [[FreudianExcuse being a societal outcast due to his dwarfism]] is implicitly the reason he was driven to become a torturer in the first place. He's also [[EvenEvilHasStandards not without standards]].

to:

* CreepyTwins: To be expected for the Twins when they torture people for a living. It's not the case when they're seen [[PetTheDog playing with some crows]], though.
* DepravedDwarf: This goes without saying for the small one, Imp, though [[FreudianExcuse being a societal outcast due to his dwarfism]] is implicitly the reason he was driven to become a torturer in the first place. He's also [[EvenEvilHasStandards not without standards]].



* EvenEvilHasStandards: Small criticizes Nina when she won't stick up for Casca.

to:

* EvenEvilHasStandards: Small The Imp criticizes Nina when she won't stick up for Casca.
20th Aug '16 10:11:04 AM TheBigBopper
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* KarmaHoudini: In both anime adaptations, due to his arc being removed.

to:

* KarmaHoudini: In both anime adaptations, due to his arc the "Guardians of Desire" storyline being removed.removed, he goes unpunished for having feasted on the Hawks before and during the Eclipse.
20th Aug '16 8:50:10 AM Robergestudios
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* KarmaHoudni: In both anime adaptations, due to his arc being removed.

to:

* KarmaHoudni: KarmaHoudini: In both anime adaptations, due to his arc being removed.
20th Aug '16 8:48:57 AM Robergestudios
Is there an issue? Send a Message


[[caption-width-right:300:The Count's Human Form. Click [[labelnote:here]]http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/547a584de58e2ac512f31d6909cf65f8.jpg here[[/labelnote]] to see his Apostle form]]

to:

[[caption-width-right:300:The Count's Human Apostle Form. Click [[labelnote:here]]http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/547a584de58e2ac512f31d6909cf65f8.jpg here[[/labelnote]] to see his Apostle Human form]]
20th Aug '16 8:46:42 AM Robergestudios
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* TragicVillain: One of the scariest things about them is that they ''couldn't'' have been pure evil as humans, since the only way to become an Apostle is to sacrifice someone you ''genuinely'' care about, and therefore, someone who doesn't care about anyone couldn't become one.



* RapePillageAndBurn: With an emphasis on burn. Rape isn't explicitly shown and he doesn't particularly care about loot, but eating people is a bonus.

to:

* RapePillageAndBurn: With an emphasis on burn. Rape isn't explicitly He's never shown raping anyone and he doesn't particularly care about loot, but eating people is a bonus.



* KarmaHoudni: In both anime adaptations, due to his arc being removed .

to:

* KarmaHoudni: In both anime adaptations, due to his arc being removed .removed.



* KickTheSonOfABitch: His utter disregard for his men's lives,going so far as to set them up to get killed so he can laugh about their deaths would make you feel sorry for them, if it weren't for the fact that they're the worst murderers, rapists and all-round scum in Midland.

to:

* KickTheSonOfABitch: His utter disregard for his men's lives,going lives, going so far as to set them up to get killed so he can laugh about their deaths would make you feel sorry for them, if it weren't for the fact that they're the worst murderers, rapists and all-round scum in Midland.



* AntiVillain: The Bird, who dislikes his work, but is devoted to Mozgus.

to:

* AntiVillain: The Bird, who dislikes his work, but is devoted despite his devotion to Mozgus.



* ScaryBlackMan: Enjoys murdering people and looks quite intimidating.

to:

* ScaryBlackMan: Enjoys raping and murdering people and looks quite intimidating.



* PaidHarem: The film depicts him with what looks like one of these; While the manga portrays him with boys in their early teens or below who are obviously being raped by him, his companions in the movie are Griffith look-alikes in at least their late teens who seem to be enjoying the life of luxury that Gennon offers them. [[spoiler:They all end up dead by the time the battle's over.]]

to:

* PaidHarem: The film depicts him with what looks like one of these; While the manga portrays him with boys in their early teens or below who are obviously being raped by him, his companions in the movie are Griffith look-alikes in at least their late teens who seem to be enjoying the life of luxury that Gennon offers them. [[spoiler:They [[spoiler:most of they all end up dead by the time the battle's over.]]
20th Aug '16 8:28:33 AM Robergestudios
Is there an issue? Send a Message


[[quoteright:300:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/547a584de58e2ac512f31d6909cf65f8.jpg]]
[[caption-width-right:300:The Count's Human Form. Click [[labelnote:here]]http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/9654620c541f5d2e4a19f9dbfef11a0c.jpg here[[/labelnote]] to see his Apostle form]]

to:

[[quoteright:300:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/547a584de58e2ac512f31d6909cf65f8.org/pmwiki/pub/images/9654620c541f5d2e4a19f9dbfef11a0c.jpg]]
[[caption-width-right:300:The Count's Human Form. Click [[labelnote:here]]http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/9654620c541f5d2e4a19f9dbfef11a0c.org/pmwiki/pub/images/547a584de58e2ac512f31d6909cf65f8.jpg here[[/labelnote]] to see his Apostle form]]



* AdaptedOut: Gets his villain arc passed over in the part of ''Anime/Berserk2016'' where it would have happened, in the interest of spending as little screen time on the Black Swordsman Arc as possible.

to:

* AdaptedOut: Gets his villain arc passed over in the part of ''Anime/Berserk2016'' where it would have happened, in the interest of spending as little screen time on the Black Swordsman Arc as possible. He still appears during the eclipse though.



* KarmaHoudni: In both anime adaptations, due to his arc being removed .



* RedemptionEqualsDeath: [[spoiler: Refusing to sacrifice his daughter, he was dragged to the underworld.]]



* BarbieDollAnatomy: Significantly Averted. Rosine and her elf children are drawn with nipples and genitalia to indicate that they are transformed humans rather than real elves like Puck, who is depicted like a Ken doll.

to:

* AmbiguouslyBi: her obsession with Jill borders on SingleTargetSexuality, but she flirts with Guts during their fight.
* BarbieDollAnatomy: Significantly Averted. Rosine and Rosine's her elf children are drawn with nipples and genitalia to indicate that they are transformed humans rather than real elves like Puck, who is depicted like a Ken doll.doll. Interestingly Rosine herself has nipples but no genitalia



'''Guts:''' ''"You wouldn't remember. Every last human you scum snacked on playing your games. [[ButForMeItWasTuesday You wouldn't remember.]]"''

to:

'''Guts:''' ''"You wouldn't remember. Every last human you scum snacked killed on playing your games. [[ButForMeItWasTuesday You wouldn't remember.]]"''



* DrivenToVillainy: Make no mistake, Rosine as an Apostle is truly cruel and evil notwithstanding her love for Jill, but the unfair and traumatic circumstances that led her to become an Apostle in the first place were outside of her control.

to:

* DrivenToVillainy: Make no mistake, Rosine as an Apostle is truly cruel and evil does some pretty terrible things notwithstanding her love for Jill, but the unfair and traumatic circumstances that led her to become an Apostle in the first place were outside of her control.



* {{Hypocrite}}: She considers herself a FriendToAllChildren, but doesn't care one bit if her elves, all of whom were children themselves, kill or violate each other with their cruel games. Rosine was also ready to let her minions devour Rickert before the Eclipse.
* KidsAreCruel: [[ExaggeratedTrope Exaggerated]] with her elf children, who think that gruesomely killing animals and humans is fun. They even dismember and rape each other

to:

* {{Hypocrite}}: She considers herself a FriendToAllChildren, but doesn't care one bit if her elves, all of whom were children themselves, kill or violate each other with their cruel games. Rosine was also ready to let her minions devour Rickert before the Eclipse.
* KidsAreCruel: [[ExaggeratedTrope Exaggerated]] with her elf children, who think that gruesomely killing animals and humans is fun. They even dismember and rape each other other.



** Horrific as he is, he actually picked his followers from people who needed a second chance and told them that their deformities did not make them monsters, but rather meant that God created them with a special purpose. The scary thing is that he might have tortured them to death without hesitation if they refused to carry out his will, but he still loves them as if they were his children and [[spoiler:weeps when they die]].

to:

** Horrific as he is, he actually picked his followers from people who needed a second chance and told them that their deformities did not make them monsters, but rather meant that God created them with a special purpose. The scary thing is that he might have tortured them to death without hesitation if they refused to carry out his will, but he still loves them as if they were his children and [[spoiler:weeps when they die]].will.
18th Aug '16 7:41:10 PM TheBigBopper
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ImprobableWeaponUser: All of them use what are more properly called tools or torture instruments rather than weapons. The Bird uses a catch pole, the Angel Face an iron-shod breaking wheel, the Twins a pair of saws, the Imp a pair of pliers, and Bubblehead a chain with spiked claws on the end.

to:

* ImprobableWeaponUser: All of them use what are more properly called tools or torture instruments rather than weapons. The Bird uses a catch pole, the Angel Face an iron-shod breaking wheel, the Twins a pair of two-man saws, the Imp a pair two pairs of pliers, and Bubblehead a chain with spiked claws on the end.
17th Aug '16 6:21:37 PM DivineDeath
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* CreepyTwins: To be expected when they torture people for a living. It's not the case when they're seen [[PetTheDog playing with some crows]], though.



* FeatherFlechettes: After their angel transformation, the Bird sends a blizzard of sharp-tipped quills from his wings flying into Guts' face. They don't penetrate the skin very much, but their real purpose is to momentarily distract and blind Guts so that Bird can seize him with his catch pole.

to:

* FeatherFlechettes: After their angel transformation, the Bird sends a blizzard of sharp-tipped quills from his wings flying into Guts' face. They don't penetrate the skin very much, but their real purpose is to momentarily distract and blind Guts so that the Bird can seize him with his catch pole.



* ImprobableWeaponUser: All of them use what are more properly called tools or torture instruments rather than weapons. Bird uses a catch pole, Big an iron-shod breaking wheel, the Twins a pair of saws, Small a pair of pliers, and Tall a chain with spiked claws on the end.

to:

* ImprobableWeaponUser: All of them use what are more properly called tools or torture instruments rather than weapons. The Bird uses a catch pole, Big the Angel Face an iron-shod breaking wheel, the Twins a pair of saws, Small the Imp a pair of pliers, and Tall Bubblehead a chain with spiked claws on the end.



* LightningBruiser: Big is quite agile for being so large.

to:

* LightningBruiser: Big The Angel Face is quite agile for being so large.



* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Small calls out Nina on her cowardice twice, the second time being when she confesses about Casca's 'powers' after not even losing a finger nail.

to:

* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: Small The Imp calls out Nina on her cowardice twice, the second time being when she confesses about Casca's 'powers' after not even losing a finger nail.
12th Aug '16 12:04:56 AM KingClark
Is there an issue? Send a Message


** As crazy as it sounds, had Adon never pulled that dirty stunt on the cliff, and later brought 100 men to track and kill them, Guts and Casca might not have ever have [[RelationshipSalvagingDisaster reconciled with each other]]

to:

** As crazy as it sounds, had Adon never pulled that dirty stunt on the cliff, and later brought 100 men to track and kill them, Guts and Casca might not have ever have [[RelationshipSalvagingDisaster reconciled with each other]]other]].
This list shows the last 10 events of 507. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Characters.BerserkAntagonists