History CharacterDerailment / Fanfic

27th Mar '16 5:08:30 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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** [[AdaptationalBadass Margaret]] is a case that [[TropesAreNotBad is actually an improvement on the original version]], since in Smith's original she is a very minor, almost superfluous character who doesn't affect the plot in any way after her introductory scene. In this version, she's pretty much [[SuperIntelligence as smart as the original series' versions of Seaton and DuQuesne combined]], being the one who actually works out the theory for the starship. Furthermore, unlike her canonical self, she's no wallflower-- when [=DuQuesne=] [[NearVillainVictory has the heroes on the ropes]] and is about to send the Alouette into the Sun, she gives a RousingSpeech on human potential that wouldn't be out of place in ''Anime/GurrenLagann'' while [[spoiler: calculating a slingshot trajectory past the Sun in her head, inventing FasterThanLightTravel ''on the spot'']]. It is eventually revealed that she can do this because [[spoiler:the experimental treatment for her autism inadvertently gave her a SplitPersonality, which is even smarter than her "normal" self]].

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** [[AdaptationalBadass Margaret]] is a case that [[TropesAreNotBad is actually an improvement on the original version]], since in Smith's original she is a very minor, almost superfluous character who doesn't affect the plot in any way after her introductory scene. In this version, she's pretty much [[SuperIntelligence as smart as the original series' versions of Seaton and DuQuesne combined]], being the one who actually works out the theory for the starship. Furthermore, unlike her canonical self, she's no wallflower-- when [=DuQuesne=] [[NearVillainVictory has the heroes on the ropes]] and is about to send the Alouette into the Sun, she gives a RousingSpeech on human potential that wouldn't be out of place in ''Anime/GurrenLagann'' ''Anime/TengenTopppaGurrenLagann'' while [[spoiler: calculating a slingshot trajectory past the Sun in her head, inventing FasterThanLightTravel ''on the spot'']]. It is eventually revealed that she can do this because [[spoiler:the experimental treatment for her autism inadvertently gave her a SplitPersonality, which is even smarter than her "normal" self]].
3rd Feb '16 2:54:14 PM Dechstreme
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** Even the people who are liked by the author aren't safe, just in the opposite direction. Hermione/Ginny (whoever's on the''right'' side of DieForOurShip this week) will be turned into a [[ShringkingViolet weak-willed]] [[SuetifulAllAlong but beautiful]] arm candy who's only defining quality is being with Harry. Harry meanwhile, often becomes vindictive and heartless to any friend who the author doesn't like, assuming he doesn't become [[DesignatedHero an outright sociopath.]]

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** Even the people who are liked by the author aren't safe, just in the opposite direction. Hermione/Ginny (whoever's on the''right'' side of DieForOurShip this week) will be turned into a [[ShringkingViolet [[ShrinkingViolet weak-willed]] [[SuetifulAllAlong but beautiful]] arm candy who's only defining quality is being with Harry. Harry meanwhile, often becomes vindictive and heartless to any friend who the author doesn't like, assuming he doesn't become [[DesignatedHero an outright sociopath.]]
3rd Feb '16 2:53:51 PM Dechstreme
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** Even the people who are liked by the author aren't safe, just in the opposite direction. Hermione/Ginny (whoever's on the''right'' side of DieForOurShip this week) will be turned into a [[Wallflower weak-willed]] [[SuetifulAllAlong but beautiful]] arm candy who's only defining quality is being with Harry. Harry meanwhile, often becomes vindictive and heartless to any friend who the author doesn't like, assuming he doesn't become [[DesignatedHero an outright sociopath.]]

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** Even the people who are liked by the author aren't safe, just in the opposite direction. Hermione/Ginny (whoever's on the''right'' side of DieForOurShip this week) will be turned into a [[Wallflower [[ShringkingViolet weak-willed]] [[SuetifulAllAlong but beautiful]] arm candy who's only defining quality is being with Harry. Harry meanwhile, often becomes vindictive and heartless to any friend who the author doesn't like, assuming he doesn't become [[DesignatedHero an outright sociopath.]]
3rd Feb '16 2:52:32 PM Dechstreme
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** Even the people who are liked by the author aren't safe, just in the opposite direction. Hermione/Ginny (whoever's on the''right'' side of DieForOurShip this week) will be turned into a [[WallFlower weak-willed]] [[SuetifulAllAlong but beautiful]] arm candy who's only defining quality is being with Harry. Harry meanwhile, often becomes vindictive and heartless to any friend who the author doesn't like, assuming he doesn't become [[DesignatedHero an outright sociopath.]]

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** Even the people who are liked by the author aren't safe, just in the opposite direction. Hermione/Ginny (whoever's on the''right'' side of DieForOurShip this week) will be turned into a [[WallFlower [[Wallflower weak-willed]] [[SuetifulAllAlong but beautiful]] arm candy who's only defining quality is being with Harry. Harry meanwhile, often becomes vindictive and heartless to any friend who the author doesn't like, assuming he doesn't become [[DesignatedHero an outright sociopath.]]
1st Feb '16 5:52:17 AM EarlOfSandvich
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** [[FanFic/BraveNewWorld The sequel's]] version of Dawn (yes, THAT Dawn) is so different from the anime's version that she might as well be a separate character. To clarify, she is essentially a mix between [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Zuko]] and [[NoMoreHeroes Shinobu]]. This could be attributed to the fact that she is a CompositeCharacter of Sadic from the aforementioned ''Latias' Journey'' and Dawn's Bunery in regards to her romance.

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** [[FanFic/BraveNewWorld The sequel's]] version of Dawn (yes, THAT Dawn) is so different from the anime's version that she might as well be a separate character. To clarify, she is essentially a mix between [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Zuko]] and [[NoMoreHeroes [[VideoGame/NoMoreHeroes Shinobu]]. This could be attributed to the fact that she is a CompositeCharacter of Sadic from the aforementioned ''Latias' Journey'' and Dawn's Bunery in regards to her romance.
11th Jan '16 11:32:23 PM bwburke94
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* Given the general quality of [[SturgeonsLaw 90% of all fanfiction]], it should go without saying that this happens a lot in fan-made stories, but even the good ones do this to their characters sometimes.

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* Given the general quality of [[SturgeonsLaw 90% of all fanfiction]], it should go without saying that this happens a lot in fan-made stories, but even the good ones do this to their characters sometimes.



** One of the [[{{SoBadItsGood}} best]] examples is of course ''MyImmortal'', where Dumbledore shouts "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING YOU MOTHERFUKERS!"

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** One of the [[{{SoBadItsGood}} best]] [[SoBadItsGood most famous]] examples is of course ''MyImmortal'', ''Fanfic/MyImmortal'', where Dumbledore shouts "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING YOU MOTHERFUKERS!"
31st Dec '15 12:17:05 PM BrendanRizzo
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** And then there's [=DuQuesne=]. In the original Skylark series, he's a DiabolicalMastermind ''par excellence'', as is only fitting for Seaton's EvilCounterpart. He considers himself above the rest of humanity (except, ironically, [[WorthyOpponent for Seaton]]), makes several attempts to kill the heroes in order to become the only commercial source of AppliedPhlebotinum, and, in the sequels, [[spoilers: conquers the planet at one point, gets BroughtDownToBadass after previously being TouchedByVorlons because [[TooSpicyForYogSothoth he's too evil even for the]] EnergyBeings, and exterminates entire races]]. Though he teams up with the heroes on occasion, this does not diminish his desire to kill them, and he does so only [[EnemyMine when they have an adversary in common]]. All in all, his whole character shows that he has no greater ideals and only cares about himself. In ''Alouette's Song'', on the other hand, though he's still a villain, he's a WellIntentionedExtremist who works for a secret government organization that is tasked with suppressing potential superweapons, and when the narrative gets in his head, it is revealed that he considers his job DirtyBusiness and really doesn't like threatening children, but feels that he has to ShootTheDog. Moreover, Margaret is positively shocked when he starts antagonizing the group, because he was her father-figure, showing that he can be quite nice when not on the job, completely unlike his FauxAffablyEvil original series incarnation. If that weren't all, when the heroes [[spoiler:capture him and decide to spare his life, he is so moved that he decides that the human race deserves to be allowed to have FTL travel after all, and performs a HeelFaceTurn, becoming TheLancer of the second half]]. The book also explains his villainous actions by giving him a tragic backstory which isn't even hinted at in the original. There is even a scene in a bar in Osnome, wherein he admits to Roban that [[spoiler: his previous actions were wrong, and that he deserves his punishment]], something that the original series' [=DuQuesne=] would never do. Ultimately it is unclear whether TropesAreNotBad in this case: his new characterization certainly has more depth than the one from the original series, but some consider it cliché and cheesy.

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** And then there's [=DuQuesne=]. In the original Skylark series, he's a DiabolicalMastermind ''par excellence'', as is only fitting for Seaton's EvilCounterpart. He considers himself above the rest of humanity (except, ironically, [[WorthyOpponent for Seaton]]), makes several attempts to kill the heroes in order to become the only commercial source of AppliedPhlebotinum, and, in the sequels, [[spoilers: [[spoiler: conquers the planet at one point, gets BroughtDownToBadass after previously being TouchedByVorlons because [[TooSpicyForYogSothoth he's too evil even for the]] EnergyBeings, and exterminates entire races]]. Though he teams up with the heroes on occasion, this does not diminish his desire to kill them, and he does so only [[EnemyMine when they have an adversary in common]]. All in all, his whole character shows that he has no greater ideals and only cares about himself. In ''Alouette's Song'', on the other hand, though he's still a villain, he's a WellIntentionedExtremist who works for a secret government organization that is tasked with suppressing potential superweapons, and when the narrative gets in his head, it is revealed that he considers his job DirtyBusiness and really doesn't like threatening children, but feels that he has to ShootTheDog. Moreover, Margaret is positively shocked when he starts antagonizing the group, because he was her father-figure, showing that he can be quite nice when not on the job, completely unlike his FauxAffablyEvil original series incarnation. If that weren't all, when the heroes [[spoiler:capture him and decide to spare his life, he is so moved that he decides that the human race deserves to be allowed to have FTL travel after all, and performs a HeelFaceTurn, becoming TheLancer of the second half]]. The book also explains his villainous actions by giving him a tragic backstory which isn't even hinted at in the original. There is even a scene in a bar in Osnome, wherein he admits to Roban that [[spoiler: his previous actions were wrong, and that he deserves his punishment]], something that the original series' [=DuQuesne=] would never do. Ultimately it is unclear whether TropesAreNotBad in this case: his new characterization certainly has more depth than the one from the original series, but some consider it cliché and cheesy.
31st Dec '15 12:11:51 PM BrendanRizzo
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** As he is the main character, Richard appropriately enough has the greatest change. In ''Skylark'', he is your stereotypical pulp-science-fiction Everyman protagonist, that is, TheAce with [[ScienceHero the know-how to solve any problem]] through '''SCIENCE!''' and [[{{Determinator}} never gives up]], enabling him to defeat all manner of ScaryDogmaticAliens who pose a threat to Earth. He is also perfectlay willing to use deadly force in self-defense. In ''Alouette's Song'', on the other hand, he starts out as a total emotional wreck and an introvert, as he has to deal with AbusiveParents whose attempt to stifle his talents result in him [[DrivenToSuicide attempting suicide]]. He survives, but remains in HeroicSafeMode until after the FinalBattle, and would likely relapse were it not for [[LivingEmotionalCrutch Dotty]]. Though he is a grade-accelerated student, he has only minimal involvement in the construction of the Alouette,as he and Dotty are out of the country during the duration in order to distract [[spoiler:[=DuQuesne=]]], and his role in the construction is taken by other characters. Also diametrically opposite his original characterization is that he's an ActualPacifist, and when [[spoiler:he has to blow up the enemy flagship (while he believes his friends are still on it) in order to save a city, he's completely unable to handle it and enters a HeroicBSOD]]-- which to be fair, is probably [[TropesAreNotBad for the best]]. After he recovers, he slowly begins to regain his original series characterization, but [[EarnYourHappyEnding he has to go through hell (literally) first]].

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** As he is the main character, Richard appropriately enough has the greatest change. In ''Skylark'', he is your stereotypical pulp-science-fiction Everyman protagonist, that is, TheAce with [[ScienceHero the know-how to solve any problem]] through '''SCIENCE!''' and [[{{Determinator}} never gives up]], enabling him to defeat all manner of ScaryDogmaticAliens who pose a threat to Earth. He is also perfectlay perfectly willing to use deadly force in self-defense. In ''Alouette's Song'', on the other hand, he starts out as a total emotional wreck and an introvert, as he has to deal with AbusiveParents whose attempt to stifle his talents result in him [[DrivenToSuicide attempting suicide]]. He survives, but remains in HeroicSafeMode until after the FinalBattle, and would likely relapse were it not for [[LivingEmotionalCrutch Dotty]]. Though he is a grade-accelerated student, he has only minimal involvement in the construction of the Alouette,as he and Dotty are out of the country during the duration in order to distract [[spoiler:[=DuQuesne=]]], and his role in the construction is taken by other characters. Also diametrically opposite his original characterization is that he's an ActualPacifist, and when [[spoiler:he has to blow up the enemy flagship (while he believes his friends are still on it) in order to save a city, he's completely unable to handle it and enters a HeroicBSOD]]-- which to be fair, is probably [[TropesAreNotBad for the best]]. After he recovers, he slowly begins to regain his original series characterization, but [[EarnYourHappyEnding he has to go through hell (literally) first]].
31st Dec '15 12:09:37 PM BrendanRizzo
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* ''Literature/AlouettesSong'' bills itself as a reimagining of the Literature/SkylarkSeries rather than a fanfic, since the source material is now in the public domain. As a result, several characters are portrayed completely differently than in the original:
** As he is the main character, Richard appropriately enough has the greatest change. In ''Skylark'', he is your stereotypical pulp-science-fiction Everyman protagonist, that is, TheAce with [[ScienceHero the know-how to solve any problem]] through '''SCIENCE!''' and [[{{Determinator}} never gives up]], enabling him to defeat all manner of ScaryDogmaticAliens who pose a threat to Earth. He is also perfectlay willing to use deadly force in self-defense. In ''Alouette's Song'', on the other hand, he starts out as a total emotional wreck and an introvert, as he has to deal with AbusiveParents whose attempt to stifle his talents result in him [[DrivenToSuicide attempting suicide]]. He survives, but remains in HeroicSafeMode until after the FinalBattle, and would likely relapse were it not for [[LivingEmotionalCrutch Dotty]]. Though he is a grade-accelerated student, he has only minimal involvement in the construction of the Alouette,as he and Dotty are out of the country during the duration in order to distract [[spoiler:[=DuQuesne=]]], and his role in the construction is taken by other characters. Also diametrically opposite his original characterization is that he's an ActualPacifist, and when [[spoiler:he has to blow up the enemy flagship (while he believes his friends are still on it) in order to save a city, he's completely unable to handle it and enters a HeroicBSOD]]-- which to be fair, is probably [[TropesAreNotBad for the best]]. After he recovers, he slowly begins to regain his original series characterization, but [[EarnYourHappyEnding he has to go through hell (literally) first]].
** [[AdaptationalBadass Margaret]] is a case that [[TropesAreNotBad is actually an improvement on the original version]], since in Smith's original she is a very minor, almost superfluous character who doesn't affect the plot in any way after her introductory scene. In this version, she's pretty much [[SuperIntelligence as smart as the original series' versions of Seaton and DuQuesne combined]], being the one who actually works out the theory for the starship. Furthermore, unlike her canonical self, she's no wallflower-- when [=DuQuesne=] [[NearVillainVictory has the heroes on the ropes]] and is about to send the Alouette into the Sun, she gives a RousingSpeech on human potential that wouldn't be out of place in ''Anime/GurrenLagann'' while [[spoiler: calculating a slingshot trajectory past the Sun in her head, inventing FasterThanLightTravel ''on the spot'']]. It is eventually revealed that she can do this because [[spoiler:the experimental treatment for her autism inadvertently gave her a SplitPersonality, which is even smarter than her "normal" self]].
** Martin gets off relatively easy: he's still TheLancer, at least in the first half, (though he shares this role with [[{{Xenafication}} Dorothy]]) and his lack of direct access to his family's fortune is fully justified because the heroes are [[YoungerAndHipper all teenagers]] in this version. His skill set is also more clearly differentiated from Rick's, being more focused on engineering. However, the one major change is his sexuality. In the original, he's a millionaire who is only a confirmed bachelor because he's worried that [[GoldDigger women only like him for his money]], and falls in love with Margaret after she's fallen for him without knowing who he is. In this version, on the other hand, he's gay, however, instead of most fanfiction which turns a straight character gay for {{Fanservice}}, here he still inexplicably [[spoiler:ends up with [[IfItsYouItsOkay Margaret]] anyway]]. Unfortunately, this results in the whole thing being utterly pointless and an {{egregious}} example of ButNotTooGay.
** And then there's [=DuQuesne=]. In the original Skylark series, he's a DiabolicalMastermind ''par excellence'', as is only fitting for Seaton's EvilCounterpart. He considers himself above the rest of humanity (except, ironically, [[WorthyOpponent for Seaton]]), makes several attempts to kill the heroes in order to become the only commercial source of AppliedPhlebotinum, and, in the sequels, [[spoilers: conquers the planet at one point, gets BroughtDownToBadass after previously being TouchedByVorlons because [[TooSpicyForYogSothoth he's too evil even for the]] EnergyBeings, and exterminates entire races]]. Though he teams up with the heroes on occasion, this does not diminish his desire to kill them, and he does so only [[EnemyMine when they have an adversary in common]]. All in all, his whole character shows that he has no greater ideals and only cares about himself. In ''Alouette's Song'', on the other hand, though he's still a villain, he's a WellIntentionedExtremist who works for a secret government organization that is tasked with suppressing potential superweapons, and when the narrative gets in his head, it is revealed that he considers his job DirtyBusiness and really doesn't like threatening children, but feels that he has to ShootTheDog. Moreover, Margaret is positively shocked when he starts antagonizing the group, because he was her father-figure, showing that he can be quite nice when not on the job, completely unlike his FauxAffablyEvil original series incarnation. If that weren't all, when the heroes [[spoiler:capture him and decide to spare his life, he is so moved that he decides that the human race deserves to be allowed to have FTL travel after all, and performs a HeelFaceTurn, becoming TheLancer of the second half]]. The book also explains his villainous actions by giving him a tragic backstory which isn't even hinted at in the original. There is even a scene in a bar in Osnome, wherein he admits to Roban that [[spoiler: his previous actions were wrong, and that he deserves his punishment]], something that the original series' [=DuQuesne=] would never do. Ultimately it is unclear whether TropesAreNotBad in this case: his new characterization certainly has more depth than the one from the original series, but some consider it cliché and cheesy.
** Dorothy, on the other hand, is probably an {{aversion}}. Though the ''Alouette's Song'' version is definitely a different character from the ''Skylark of Space'' version, most of the changes are additions, rather than outright contradictions.
** Lastly, the Kondalians have a noticeably different character. They are your typical ProudWarriorRace in the original, but in this version [[TropesAreNotBad they're fleshed out to be less one-note]], having a culture based on mysticism that is based on the Biblical Israelites. This is probably for the best, since the original series' Kondalians [[DesignatedHero were kind of assholes]]. [[note]]However, their leader Roban has his characterization more or less intact: once the tide of battle turns against [[TheEmpire Mardonale]], he proves to be no better than [[BigBad Nalboon]] as he almost causes MutuallyAssuredDestruction [[RevengeBeforeReason out of petty revenge]] [[HonorBeforeReason despite knowing that this would result in the end of Osnomian civilization]].[[/note]]
22nd Aug '15 8:57:43 PM nombretomado
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* ''Anime/GundamWing'' fanfiction almost always does this to [[DieForOurShip Relena]], Heero's canonical love interest, since there's more or less no possible way for Heero to get with Slasher favorite Duo while her personality is intact[[note]]especially given that, as she is, [[ShipperOnDeck Duo ships Heero/Relena]][[/note]]. In fanfic, she's usually a catty, jealous shrieking harpy willing to kill to make Heero hers by force and blood. In canon, well, apart from anything else, her ImageSong is about how IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy and she'd be willing to leave him if he fell in love with someone else.

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* ''Anime/GundamWing'' ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing'' fanfiction almost always does this to [[DieForOurShip Relena]], Heero's canonical love interest, since there's more or less no possible way for Heero to get with Slasher favorite Duo while her personality is intact[[note]]especially given that, as she is, [[ShipperOnDeck Duo ships Heero/Relena]][[/note]]. In fanfic, she's usually a catty, jealous shrieking harpy willing to kill to make Heero hers by force and blood. In canon, well, apart from anything else, her ImageSong is about how IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy and she'd be willing to leave him if he fell in love with someone else.
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