History BlueAndOrangeMorality / LiveActionTv

*** The ExpandedUniverse anthology ''Twelve Angels Weeping'' notes that [[VillainsNeverLie Daleks have a "psychotic honesty" to them: they never use stealth tactics, never encrypt their communications and rarely use tricks.]] On the other hand, the main character (a Time Lord fighting against the Daleks in the Last Great Time War) also grimly observes that ShockAndAwe tactics are utterly useless against them. Detonating a sun to destroy every Dalek ship in its solar system merely summoned more Daleks to take over the empty space.

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* ''Series/The100'': In season 3, we are introduced to A.L.I.E., an [[ArtificialIntelligence artificial intelligence]] whom Jaha is helping to shepherd the citizens of Arkadia to the "City of Light," a rumored promised land. To enter, a person must swallow a device that hardwires the brain into feeling absolutely no pain, physical or otherwise, wiping entire sections of memory and essentially turning people into drones for her. As an artificial intelligence, she has no human emotions or human understanding of right and wrong and is just following her core command, which is to "make life better for humanity." She takes drastic measures to accomplish this, including wiping out most of mankind before the events of the series to prevent a potential overpopulation problem. It is later revealed that her purpose for the City of Light was to [[spoiler:"save humanity" from a coming nuclear deathwave that will irradiate the ground in six months' time. Taking away pain was an attempt to give people happy lives, and after the end came, [[BrainUploading their minds would have lived on]] in the city,]] but as a machine, she couldn't understand what exactly was wrong with the violent ways she went about getting people to enter.

-->"[Stick's moral code is in] a weird grey area. It’s like Daredevil and Elektra are my kids and I essentially adopt them both, trained them to fight. The written problem I have with Daredevil is the one line he won’t cross – taking human life. He’ll beat people up horrendously, put them in a hospital, do whatever he has to do but he won’t kill people. All I do is kill people. And working with the Chaste, I’m a blind assassin. I’m a Defender against the worst evil in the world and my only way of dealing with that is killing people. So it is a grey area kind of thing. I don’t think of myself as a bad person. But I don’t think of myself as a particularly good person either. And the way I work with that is that I’m a soldier in combat in a desperate war and that’s the way I have to behave."

*** The Fourth Doctor is about as extreme as it gets due to the BizarreAlienPsychology of that incarnation — he sees no problem with manipulating or bullying his friends for the greater good or even, occasionally, for fun, but finds the whole concept of exercising authority over others to be at best objectionable. Sometimes, if it looks like he's led allies to fend off a monster to the point where his allies can gain official power, he will stab them in the back to keep this from happening. The first thing he will offer any villain in a dispute is compromise and diplomacy, no matter how repugnant its ideas — of course, if the villain has no intention to change or betrays him, he will not feel any guilt about killing them.

** The Eternals in [[Recap/DoctorWhoS20E5Enlightenment "Enlightenment"]]: they think nothing of kidnapping human seafarers to crew the ships in their race, and aren't too bothered by their deaths — after all they're outside of time and technically don't die, but "Ephemerals" (beings inside of time) live such short lives. All that matters to them is winning the race and the eventual prize, the "Enlightenment" of the title. They're not even bothered about sabotaging each other's efforts — it's not against the rules, technically, just not terribly sporting.
** AntiVillain Morgaine from [[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E1Battlefield "Battlefield"]] thinks nothing of slaughtering people who tick her off, but [[spoiler:insists on paying for a round of drinks that her son ordered in a pub. She pays for them, by the way, by ''curing the barmaid's blindness''. She also won't fight in graveyards as to not dishonour the dead. She also held a ceremony honouring said dead — dead people on a planet she cared nothing of. They died in battle = They deserve honour.]]

** That's the Observer science team. The ones known in season 5 as the Invaders are primarily concerned with preserving their own VichyEarth.

** It's a DiscussedTrope in series 2, episode 3 "Thanks for the memory". Rimmer speculates they've made first contact with aliens, who communicate by [[ItMakesSenseInContext breaking Lister and the Cat's legs and putting casts on them]] and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking making a jigsaw puzzle]]. He reasons that seeing as they're ''alien'' they're thinking ''alien'' and humans (and the cat) don't think like they do.

** The angels are even more complicated, as they are revealed to be a textbook example of LightIsNotGood. They were created purely to act as weapons of God and most will unthinkingly follow what they believe their father wants, even though he's long gone by the time they show up in the story, and never stop to question whether this is actually what he wants and if it's worth doing even if it is. They are wrathful, fanatical and cold, willing to destroy entire towns if it suits their purposes. Their stated goal is to bring about paradise on earth, but they are willing to kill billions of humans in the process. This is seen in Castiel, [[spoiler: who eventually rebels against Heaven and joins Sam and Dean's side. However, multiple times, especially in Season 6, he's shown as not having the same moral compass as humans. He's still willing to kill innocents that stand in his way - or in Sam's case destroy his mind. Even much later in the series, Castiel will volunteer to kill an innocent so the humans Sam and Dean won't have to. ]]
*** Angels are also different in some ways that are PlayedForLaughs. For example, most of them don't seem to understand when something is rude - such as stating what is, to them, a simple fact. At one point, Sam, shocked after Castiel immediately showed up to help them when Dean called after Sam had tried contacting him for ''months'', asks if Cas likes Dean more. Cas simply tells him, "Dean and I do share a more profound bond", while seeming annoyed at the question.

** While the Daleks are mostly ScaryDogmaticAliens with heavy [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Nazi]] overtones, it's noted that they regard hatred as so fundamentally beautiful that they are unable to destroy especially pure examples of it, ''even when it's in their best interests to do so''. It's subtly implied that part of the reason they have not yet defeated the Doctor may be that [[NotSoDifferent they're too in awe of the hatred he has of them]].

*** In the episode "Starship Down", the Karemma, a ProudMerchantRace from the Gamma Quadrant, are shown to have this dynamic with the Ferengi: Ferengi morality is centered around the pursuit of profit at any cost, up to and including lying, swindling, and cheating. The Karemma, on the other hand, believe in honest business: the prices they set for their goods are based on the value of the materials and the labor that goes into manufacture, nothing more and nothing less. They also scoff at the idea of gambling, with one Karemma stating that "Only a fool would risk what he has to chance", while Quark dismisses the Karemma's business practices as simply bartering. By the end of the episode, however, both races are shown to be [[NotSoDifferent alike in many other ways.]]

** Present in an early episode, "[[Recap/AngelS01E07BachelorParty Bachelor Party]]", with a family of Ano-Movic. Ano-Movic demons are a very peaceful race -- formerly a violent race of nomadic demons, they blended into Western Society and gave up their more gruesome traditions. On the flip side, not all of their old customs have been abandoned -- the family seen in the episode are shown discussing the wedding plans just as easily as they discuss the ritualistic eating of the former spouse's brains. While this sounds gruesome, to the Ano-Movics, it is a gesture of love -- their belief is that by eating the brains of the old spouse of their wedded-to-be prior to the wedding, the new spouse will incorporate all of the love and affection from the previous relationship into their new marriage.

** The angels are even more complicated, as they are revealed to be a textbook example of LightIsNotGood. They are wrathful, fanatical and cold, shown willing to destroy entire towns if it suits their purposes. Their stated goal is to bring about paradise on earth, but they are willing to kill billions of humans in the process. This is seen in Castiel, [[spoiler: who eventually rebels against Heaven and joins Sam and Dean's side. However, multiple times, especially in Season 6, he's shown as not having the same moral compass as humans. He's still willing to kill innocents that stand in his way - or in Sam's case destroy his mind. Even much later in the series, Castiel will volunteer to kill an innocent so the humans Sam and Dean won't have to. ]]

* Sometimes discussed in ''{{Series/Supernatural}}''. Because of [[HunterOfMonsters the nature of their work]], Sam and Dean occasionally run into Pagan gods and monsters who see nothing wrong in killing and eating people in order to survive.

** The process that places people into the Good and Bad Places. Lincoln is the only President in the Good Place nd even Florence Nightingale (barely) didn't do enough good in life to be sent to the Good Place. Also, artists seem to be rejected just as a matter of course.

* ''Guy Court'' was a short lived spinoff of ''Guy Code'' where guests would go to mock trials to determine whether or not the defendant was in violation of Guy Code. Commedian Donell Rawlings gave the verdicts, and his conclusions were often odd.
** One episode a guest complained about her boyfriend's taste in drinks. She was a beer drinker, but he preferred sugary cocktails. Rather than defend his choice to drink what he liked Rawlings shamed him for it and declared [[RealMenHateSugar he was in violation of Guy Code and should drink beer.]]

* In ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'', it's noted several times about how distasteful Hannibal views rudeness, which is one of his primary motives for murder, and Hannibal evens seems offended by the accusation that he poisoned a dinner -- he would never do ''[[SkewedPriorities that]]'' to the food. It is possible he was also referring to the accuser himself, considering his proclivities. His idea of the proper ways to [[spoiler: befriend and then romantically court Will Graham]] are also rather... unconventional and disturbing, to say the least. [[spoiler: [[OneTrueLove Not that it doesn't work]].]]

* In ''Series/MyCatFromHell'', cat behaviorist Jackson Galaxy often ends up pointing out that frustrated humans try to apply their own senses of morality and behavior onto cats, who really don't have such concepts in the first place, so most of the time it's just the humans projecting their own issues. One such owner was convinced that her cat was deliberately peeing outside his litter box and called him a "spiteful urinator." Jackson's [[FlatWhat reaction]] says it all. Turns out the cat was doing it because he was declawed (something that Jackson and most cat experts will agree is a cruel thing to do in the first place since it's the equivalent of cutting off the tips of a human's fingers) and the litter they were using hurt his feet so much that he didn't feel comfortable going in the litter box, and as soon as they switched to another litter that didn't hurt him it stopped.

*** Garak is an example of this trope to other Cardassians in addition to humans. When told the tale of The Boy Who Cried Wolf, he's [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids utterly disgusted that a child's tale involves a child getting eaten by a wolf]] but when he's told the lesson is "If you always lie, no one will believe you" he concludes that Humans got the lesson wrong... it's never tell the same lie twice. We never know what he was exiled from Cardassia for, but it has something to do with a man who says he is his father, a deed that would seem noble to humans while serving in the Bajoran Occupation involving saving his friend, and [[IntimidatingRevenueService failure to pay his taxes.]] To Garak, these are all equally truthful and falsehoods about his past, and you should believe everyone of them, especially the lies. He even lies to get the local law enforcement involved in investigating his assassination.

*** The Prophets exhibit a lot of this, especially in Ben Sisko's backstory. They are StarfishAliens to the extreme. They are EnergyBeings that exist outside of normal space time and, because they do not experience the passage of time, they have a lot of issues understanding the human experience. They possessed Ben Sisko's mother and ensured that she married his father and gave birth to Ben. Once you know what happens there is a degree of Squick involved, because it amounted to rape in the end (although it wasn't Joseph's fault because he didn't know that his wife was being controlled and the relationship wasn't her desire). The Prophets never understood that there was anything wrong with what they did, and indeed the Prophet that possessed Ben's mother uses her appearance in his mind when communicating with him for the rest of the series.

* ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'' has the Bugsters, who are effectively video game characters brought to the real world. As such, they have a very different set of values from normal people, valuing skill, challenging opponents and having fun above all else, and putting very little value on human life since they're so used to respawning with little to consequence, which comes across as especially shocking to a cast primarily comprised of doctors. The series later gets unusually literal when the protagonist discovers one of the main villains to be his EnemyWithout, and the one who's secretly been controlling one half of a form that was previously assumed to split him into two bodies, one orange and one blue. This leads to a fight between the two halves.

* ''Series/KamenRiderExAid'' offers an unusually literal example when the protagonist discovers one of the main villains to be his EnemyWithout, and the one who's secretly been controlling one half of a form that was previously assumed to split him into two bodies, one orange and one blue. This leads to a fight between the two halves.

** The Bots also have this. Thanks to Joel programming them with "occasional ribbing," it makes them believe it is okay for them to destroy Mike\Joel's prized possessions, but when someone messes with ''their'' things it's SeriousBusiness.

*** Similarly, to a Dalek, maintaining racial purity overrides everything else, including self-preservation and even ''killing.'' In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS31E3VictoryOfTheDaleks "Victory of the Daleks",]] three Daleks immediately and willingly allow themselves to be killed by a new, "purer" strain of Dalek. In [[Recap/DoctorWho2021NYSRevolutionOfTheDaleks "Revolution of the Daleks",]] a new strain of Daleks built and cloned by humans manages to take over the Earth with little resistance. The response from Skaro is to come to Earth and kill them all for impurity, [[VillanousRescue freeing the Earth,]] and ignoring the human population completely until the new Daleks are extinct.

** The process that places people into the Good and Bad Places. Lincoln is the only President in the Good Place (beating out forking Washington[[note]]Granted, any slave owner is probably out given that freeing them is what appears to have put Lincoln over the top.[[/note]]) and even Florence Nightingale (barely) didn't do enough good in life to be sent to the Good Place. Also, artists seem to be rejected just as a matter of course.

* In ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'', it's noted several times about how distasteful Hannibal views rudeness, which is one of his primary motives for murder, and Hannibal evens seems offended by the accusation that he poisoned a dinner -- he would never do ''[[SkewedPriorities that]]'' to the food. It is possible he was also referring to the accuser himself, considering his proclivities. His idea of the proper ways to [[spoiler: befriend and then romantically court Will Graham]] are also rather... unconventional and disturbing, to say the least.

* ''Franchise/StarTrek'':
** In ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' the non-humanoid [[Recap/StarTrekS3E22TheSavageCurtain Excalbian]] race provides another example; they view such concepts as "good" and "evil" as being so foreign that they decide to test them experimentally by staging a battle between representatives of the two.
** The Borg in ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' were a lot like this originally, before eventually being humanized by the addition of the Borg Queen in the movie ''[[Film/StarTrekFirstContact First Contact]]''.
--->'''Locutus''': "Why do you resist? We only wish to raise the quality of life."
** The entity Nagilum in the episode "[[Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS2E2WhereSilenceHasLease Where Silence Has Lease]]" traps the Enterprise in a strange NegativeSpaceWedgie, kills a {{Redshirt}}, and decides to kill a good portion of the rest of the crew to fully explore the concept of death. It seems to truly have no idea that the crew might not be wild about this idea.
** In one fanfic, there was a discussion of Q vs. Nagilum among the core cast--who would you rather deal with? The conclusion was Q, because in his own odd way he seemed to like humans in general and the "Enterprise" crew in particular, while Nagilum seemed to be indifferent to anything but the results of his experiments.
** In the episode "Liaisons", had ambassadors from a race that lacked the concepts of antagonism, pleasure and love. One of them studied antagonism by being a jerk to Worf, one of them studied pleasure by pigging out, and one of them tried to learn about love by stranding Picard on a planet and taking the form of a human woman.
** While Q is portrayed as being an adversary of humanity, he might embody this trope. In the episode "True Q", he even claims his race has the right to decide whether humans live or die because of their superior morality, a characterization with which Picard disagrees, to put it mildly.
** Although Q is a particularly malicious member of his race. While the Q Continuum do fall under this Trope, Q himself is particularly sadistic and condescending compared to the others, and isn't the best comparison for how his species thinks (the Continuum once kicked him out and turned him into a human for being an embarrassment).
** Malicious perhaps, though it's not hard to make the case that every time Q shows up (on TNG anyway), he does the human race a favor - even if it's a lesson or warning that costs lives. He really seems to like humanity, but is happy to make liking him back nearly impossible. Which makes him perfect for this page.
** In the final episode he actually saved humanity indirectly by dropping hints about what the continuum was doing so that Picard could stop it. In an earlier episode where he was acting as their agent he admitted the Q as a whole considered humans a possible future threat.
** In the extended canon novel Q&A it is revealed that Q's tests had a point all along... turning Q into a case of ValuesDissonance. [[spoiler:A race known as Them have returned to decide the fate of the entire universe. It turns out They created our universe (the Q included) and, like many others they created before ours, They are now going to destroy it... because They are no longer entertained by it. The Q knew all along and had essentially given up. Q, however, (yes that one) had tested countless races and decided on Humans, Picard in particular, to prove the worth of keeping our universe around. It works. Picard convinces Them to let the universe remain... by ''laughing'' at the absurdity of the situation. All along Q had been teaching Picard to have a sense of humor about things that were out of his control just so he would have exactly this reaction when the time came.]]
** And then you [[FridgeLogic begin to realize]] that the fans of Star Trek are essentially [[spoiler:Them]]... what with the recent drastic decline in the franchise's popularity. [[FridgeBrilliance EPIC!]]
** In the episode "Allegiance," Picard is whisked away to a strange prison with three strangers and replaced by a doppelganger on the Enterprise. When he figures out the experiment he and the others have been unwittingly participating in, his captors (a group of previously unknown aliens) reveal themselves and return him to his ship. They explain that they sought to understand command structures, which do not exist in their culture. When Picard tells them that what they've done is wrong, they claim not to understand the "primitive" concept of morality. But it's clear, when Picard gives them a taste of their own medicine, that he doesn't entirely buy their alleged Blue And Orange Morality, and that maybe they're just ''assholes''.
** Another example is the Klingon concept of honor, which doesn't track exactly to any human honor system. For instance, hiding in a debris field to ambush anyone who comes to rescue survivors is considered perfectly honorable, and you can officially strip someone of honor for political reasons. Worf is unusual in that his honor is a code of behavior understandable by humans, more like a KnightErrant than anything, but it confuses the hell out of other Klingons.
** Note that Worf's code of honor is TECHNICALLY the same as the other Klingons, the difference being that he stands by it while other Klingons often tend to interpret the 'honorable' thing as being 'the thing that gains them glory.' The other Klingons he encounters tend to believe that he will also do what serves himself first, then get surprised and offended when he declares that he will follow through with his promises and oaths.
** Fridge brilliance to be found here: Worf was raised on a human colony (and later Earth). Even though he's well read in the facts of what constitute honourable and dishonourable ''acts'' for a Klingon, he has very little firsthand experience with the Klingon expression of it (where it's practically [=EXP=]), and instead expresses it like a human (a state of mind).
** In the episode "Suddenly Human", the ''Enterprise'' crew discovers a human teenager amongst a group of stranded Talarian teenagers. They soon learn that he was the son of a Starfleet officer who died in a Talarian attack, the Talarian captain took him in as his son since according to Talarian tradition, he is allowed to claim the son of a slain enemy after he lost his own son in a Starfleet attack.
** In the episode "Empath," the aliens torture the Enterprise officers in order to awaken the title character's compassion.
** The episode ''The Ensigns of Command'' features, who are discussed as being this, with them even being ''able'' to be communicated with by more human-like species being remarkable. This having been said, while part of their mindset is claimed to be that they are exceedingly detailed with their treaties and sticklers for the letter of them, the one we see has a very human-like immediate "you can't do that!" reaction when Picard turns it right back at them (from the ''human'' perspective the Sheliak were acting as unreasonable, selfish assholes) and invokes a clause of the Federation-Sheliak treaty that creates a ''longer'' delay than the one he was asking for under the negotiation clause of the treaty.
** In ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' The episode "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS01E06CaptivePursuit Captive Pursuit]]" was all about this trope. The first alien from the other side of the wormhole, who calls himself Tosk, makes friends with O'Brien and is revealed to be the prey of another species, and both that species and Tosk view the hunt involved to be ancient and honorable for all involved. Tosk even refuses asylum on [=DS9=], even though he will be turned into a zoo exhibit for the rest of his days, the most dishonorable outcome of the hunt. O'Brien is especially troubled by this, and actually subverts the trope a bit by making a compromise between the two moralities: he frees Tosk so that he and his pursuers can have the hunt they desire, and so that Tosk has an opportunity to live the way he deems most honorable, all while allaying O'Brien's conscience about Tosk's fate.

** The Mari, a one-episode race in ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', are telepaths who prosecute thoughtcrime. However, they are in no way fascist (indeed, the laws have made the police almost obsolete and there are very few left) and the head constable is genuinely trying to do the right thing. While their laws are draconian and lead to the episode's problems, the fact that they have laws regulating thoughts is presented as a logical consequence of a telepathic society.

*** Seven of Nine, who joins the ''Voyager'' crew after being cut off from the Borg Collective, initially has a morality that is more based in cold pragmatism than her crewmates. For some time after being seperated from the Borg and becoming an individual, she butts heads with Captain Janeway, believing her idealistic actions to be a major detriment, since the Borg considered such idealism to be irrelevant.
** An early episode of ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'' had the crew being continually attacked by a mystery ship for no apparent reason. T'Pol points out that not every species out there necessarily behaves in a way that would make sense to humans. They never find out what the aliens' motivation was, but they did successfully test their new weapons on them.
** Denobulans have some odd priorities by human standards: for example, Phlox won't treat a patient without their consent even for a lethal condition, but has no objection to sharing medical information or supplying drugs to crew members, and at one point argues that it's okay to refuse to treat a genetic disease, even if it's rendering a species extinct, because [[InsaneTrollLogic something something "evolution"]]. (Admittedly, it's downplayed in the episode with the last one, because Archer agreed with him, leading to Trek's chronologically first case of negligent genocide.)

*** Played for (ironic) horror in the sequel to TheMovie, ''[[Film/TheAddamsFamily Addams Family Values]]'' [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin (the title says it all, doesn't it?)]], when Gomez and Morticia's infant son contracts a disease that turns him from pale-skinned and mustachioed into a stereotypically cute baby with a healthy complexion and curly blond hair. Granny tells the parents that the condition might be incurable.
---->'''Granny:''' He could stay this way for years, perhaps forever...He could become a lawyer...An orthodontist...President.\\
''[Gomez screams in anguish.]''

* Kilgrave in ''Series/JessicaJones2015''. It's in Creator/DavidTennant's opinion [[http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/david-tennant-interview-jessica-jones-actor-on-feeling-sympathy-for-kilgrave-and-the-golden-age-of-a6740856.html that Kilgrave has this]] because, let's face it, how can a man who has the power to make people do whatever he wants, perhaps even without meaning to, possibly be able to retain any normal sense of ethics? It could be that ''anyone'' might be warped and changed by this power, and would start to see the world differently from everybody else. That he was ten years old and had been subjected to frequent and painful experimentation when he developed this power lends itself to this interpretation.

* ''Series/StarTrek'':

** The Borg in ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' were a lot like this originally, before eventually being humanized by the addition of the Borg Queen in the movie ''First Contact''.
-->'''Locutus''': "Why do you resist? We only wish to raise the quality of life."

-->'''Granny:''' He could stay this way for years, perhaps forever...He could become a lawyer...An orthodontist...President.
--> ''[Gomez screams in anguish.]''

-->"I didn't give you a chance. That you learn when you become a King. You learn to destroy everything that isn't utterly yours. All that matters is victory. That's how your reign persists. You are a slave to an insane construct. You are moral. A true ruler is as moral as a hurricane, empty but for the force of his gale. But you; trapped in the web of the Wolf, the Ram, the Hart. So much power here! And you quibble at its price. If you want to win a war, you must serve no master but your own ambition."

** AntiVillain Morgaine from [[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E1Battlefield "Battlefield"]] thinks nothing of slaughtering people who tick her off, but [[spoiler:insists on paying for a round of drinks that her son ordered in a pub. She pays for them, by the way, by ''curing the barmaid's blindness''. She also won't fight in graveyards as to not dishonour the dead. She also held a ceremony honouring said dead — dead people on a planet she cared nothing of. They died in battle = They deserve honour.]]

** The Judoon have a pretty strange concept of justice. In [[Recap/DoctorWhoS29E1SmithAndJones "Smith and Jones"]], they don't hesitate to pronounce and carry out a death sentence on a man for breaking a vase over a soldier's head, even though the soldier was fully armored and completely unharmed, and when the hospital appears about to explode they depart without any effort to stop it. But when their leader takes an unusually long time verifying that Martha is human, he insists on giving her "compensation" in the form of a piece of paper in an alien language (it's never clear what it is), and [[spoiler:when the hospital doesn't blow up, they send it back to Earth]].

* ''Series/Daredevil2015'': Stick, Matt Murdock's elderly mentor and the guy who trained him to fight, has a very strange sense of morality, as Matt point. For instance, in Stick's mind, befriending a nurse that can be both a medic and a SecretKeeper is bad because relationships of any kind are weakness; but cotton sheets feeling like sandpaper is good because it keeps the sleeper tough. As Creator/ScottGlenn, who plays Stick, described his moral code in [[http://mcuexchange.com/scott-glenn-describes-events-defenders-desperate-war/ one interview]]:

** AntiVillain Morgaine from [[Recap/DoctorWhoS26E1Battlefield "Battlefield"]] thinks nothing of slaughtering people who tick her off, but [[spoiler:insists on paying for a round of drinks that her son ordered in. She pays for them, by the way, by ''curing the barmaid's blindness''. She also won't fight in graveyards as to not dishonour the dead. She also held a ceremony honouring said dead — dead people on a planet she cared nothing of. They died in battle = They deserve honour.]]

** It's a DiscussedTrope in series 2, episode 3 "Thanks for the memory". Rimmer speculates they've made first contact with aliens, who communicate by [[ItMakesSenseContext breaking Lister and the Cat's legs and putting casts on them]] and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking making a jigsaw puzzle]]. He reasons that seeing as they're ''alien'' they're thinking ''alien'' and humans (and the cat) don't think like they do.

** A little more elaboration: the Addamses possess a clear taste for the grotesque and the macabre, and a distaste for the opposite. Their house is a sentient haunted house, they wear dark clothing, the children [[AmusingInjuries routinely torture each other for fun]], and find monstrously hideous creatures to be adorable. On the flip-side, they react to cute and cheery things like songbirds, kittens and flowers to the point of ''physical revulsion''. That said, they [[DarkIsNotEvil aren't really "evil"]], and in fact they're rather courteous ([[CreepyAwesome in a twisted sorta way]]) to outsiders, although they ''do'' consider ''us'' to be the strange ones. Modern fans like to describe them as not being inhuman, but rather "just ''really'' goth".