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But when stacked against Jon Osterman (Doctor Manhattan's [[PhysicalGod powers]], he's no more a threat than the smartest termite. A man of Adrian's arrogance wouldn't take that lying down. He's envious of Manhattan's natural power over the universe, and tries to replicate it for himself. His TV wall is a prime example. Dozens of television sets, each tuned in to a different channel, in an effort to see everywhere in the world at once, and determine the best course of action. He wants to be all-seeing, and works hard to be that way.
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But when stacked against Jon Osterman (Doctor Manhattan's Manhattan)'s [[PhysicalGod powers]], he's no more a threat than the smartest termite. A man of Adrian's arrogance wouldn't take that lying down. He's envious of Manhattan's natural power over the universe, and tries to replicate it for himself. His TV wall is a prime example. Dozens of television sets, each tuned in to a different channel, in an effort to see everywhere in the world at once, and determine the best course of action. He wants to be all-seeing, and works hard to be that way.
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Basically Dr. Manhattan represented God, and The Comedian gunning down his pregnant girlfriend represented the suffering of humanity.
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Basically Dr. Manhattan represented God, and The Comedian gunning down his pregnant girlfriend represented the suffering of humanity.humanity.
[[WMG: Ozymandias is insecure about his mortality, and tries to replicate Dr. Manhattan's powers.]]
Adrian Veidt is an ambitious and powerful man, that much is certain. Because of {{CharlesAtlasSuperpower}} and {{TrainingfromHell}}, he can go toe to toe with other heroes in a brawl, and win easily. He's a [[SuperIntelligence super-genius]], able to plan a world bending scheme in secret, and [[MadScientist invent]] mind-boggling [[EldritchAbomination terrors]]. In Chapter XI, as Nite Owl & Rorschach are infiltrating his [[SupervillainLair icy]] base, Dan takes it all in and says "This must be how ordinary people feel around us. Look at this place! I thought I had some stuff in the owl's nest... Half this equipment I don't even recognize." When compared to other, non-superpowered heroes, Adrian stands at the top of the pyramid.
But when stacked against Jon Osterman (Doctor Manhattan's [[PhysicalGod powers]], he's no more a threat than the smartest termite. A man of Adrian's arrogance wouldn't take that lying down. He's envious of Manhattan's natural power over the universe, and tries to replicate it for himself. His TV wall is a prime example. Dozens of television sets, each tuned in to a different channel, in an effort to see everywhere in the world at once, and determine the best course of action. He wants to be all-seeing, and works hard to be that way.
But Doctor Manhattan just is that way. He not only sees everywhere in the world at once, but he all of time. Past, present, and future are all one for him. No special equipment required.
In the final scene, Adrian tries to justify himself to Jon in an orrery. A small model of the solar system is set in the middle, constellations on the walls, a light bulb functioning as the sun in the center. Overseeing the model is a meditating Adrian Veidt, looking intentionally godly. He says that he forced himself to feel the weight of the sacrifice, casting himself as the necessary savior.
But then, Jon walks through the walls, into the model, turning the orange light to blue, casually ponders going to another galaxy to create life there, poses like Da Vinci's Vitruvian Man, while this faux cosmos revolves around him, exposing Adrian's self-doubt.
Doctor Manhattan is the only character to defeat Adrian. How? By breaking him with the truth. Adrian tries so desperately to be a modern demigod. Jon just is one, and it drives him insane. The constant reminder that, for all his success and achievements, he is merely mortal.
[[WMG: Ozymandias is insecure about his mortality, and tries to replicate Dr. Manhattan's powers.]]
Adrian Veidt is an ambitious and powerful man, that much is certain. Because of {{CharlesAtlasSuperpower}} and {{TrainingfromHell}}, he can go toe to toe with other heroes in a brawl, and win easily. He's a [[SuperIntelligence super-genius]], able to plan a world bending scheme in secret, and [[MadScientist invent]] mind-boggling [[EldritchAbomination terrors]]. In Chapter XI, as Nite Owl & Rorschach are infiltrating his [[SupervillainLair icy]] base, Dan takes it all in and says "This must be how ordinary people feel around us. Look at this place! I thought I had some stuff in the owl's nest... Half this equipment I don't even recognize." When compared to other, non-superpowered heroes, Adrian stands at the top of the pyramid.
But when stacked against Jon Osterman (Doctor Manhattan's [[PhysicalGod powers]], he's no more a threat than the smartest termite. A man of Adrian's arrogance wouldn't take that lying down. He's envious of Manhattan's natural power over the universe, and tries to replicate it for himself. His TV wall is a prime example. Dozens of television sets, each tuned in to a different channel, in an effort to see everywhere in the world at once, and determine the best course of action. He wants to be all-seeing, and works hard to be that way.
But Doctor Manhattan just is that way. He not only sees everywhere in the world at once, but he all of time. Past, present, and future are all one for him. No special equipment required.
In the final scene, Adrian tries to justify himself to Jon in an orrery. A small model of the solar system is set in the middle, constellations on the walls, a light bulb functioning as the sun in the center. Overseeing the model is a meditating Adrian Veidt, looking intentionally godly. He says that he forced himself to feel the weight of the sacrifice, casting himself as the necessary savior.
But then, Jon walks through the walls, into the model, turning the orange light to blue, casually ponders going to another galaxy to create life there, poses like Da Vinci's Vitruvian Man, while this faux cosmos revolves around him, exposing Adrian's self-doubt.
Doctor Manhattan is the only character to defeat Adrian. How? By breaking him with the truth. Adrian tries so desperately to be a modern demigod. Jon just is one, and it drives him insane. The constant reminder that, for all his success and achievements, he is merely mortal.
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Dr. Manhattan [[SuperpowerLottery is]] [[PhysicalGod an]] [[TheOmnipotent omnipotent]] being]] with the power to [[PersonOfMassDestruction destroy entire armies by simply waving his blue hands]], and yet [[BystanderSyndrome he is apathetic towards the human race]]. He has the power to make the world a better place, but this power has caused him to lose his humanity and become more and more detached from the human race. For most of the series, he no longer cares about humans; even after he rediscovers the miracle of human life, [[BlueAndOrangeMorality he sees life more in a predictable/unpredictable manner rather than in a good/evil manner,]] and isn't really invested in humanity from a moral viewpoint.
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Dr. Manhattan [[SuperpowerLottery is]] [[PhysicalGod an]] [[TheOmnipotent omnipotent]] [[TheOmniscient being]] with the power to [[PersonOfMassDestruction destroy entire armies by simply waving his blue hands]], and yet [[BystanderSyndrome he is apathetic towards the human race]]. He has the power to make the world a better place, but this power has caused him to lose his humanity and become more and more detached from the human race. For most of the series, he no longer cares about humans; even after he rediscovers the miracle of human life, [[BlueAndOrangeMorality he sees life more in a predictable/unpredictable manner rather than in a good/evil manner,]] and isn't really invested in humanity from a moral viewpoint.
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[[WMG: Dr. Manhattan represents Alan Moore's view of the Abrahamic God.]]
Dr. Manhattan [[SuperpowerLottery is an omnipotent being]] with the power to destroy entire armies by simply waving his blue hands, and yet [[BystanderSyndrome he is apathetic towards the human race]]. He has the power to make the world a better place, but this power has caused him to lose his humanity and become more and more detached from the human race. For most of the series, he no longer cares about humans; even after he rediscovers the miracle of human life, [[BlueAndOrangeMorality he sees life more in a predictable/unpredictable manner rather than in a good/evil manner,]] and isn't really invested in humanity from a moral viewpoint.
Dr. Manhattan [[SuperpowerLottery is an omnipotent being]] with the power to destroy entire armies by simply waving his blue hands, and yet [[BystanderSyndrome he is apathetic towards the human race]]. He has the power to make the world a better place, but this power has caused him to lose his humanity and become more and more detached from the human race. For most of the series, he no longer cares about humans; even after he rediscovers the miracle of human life, [[BlueAndOrangeMorality he sees life more in a predictable/unpredictable manner rather than in a good/evil manner,]] and isn't really invested in humanity from a moral viewpoint.
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[[WMG: Dr. Manhattan represents Alan Moore's Creator/AlanMoore's view of the Abrahamic God.{{God}}.]]
Dr. Manhattan [[SuperpowerLotteryis an omnipotent is]] [[PhysicalGod an]] [[TheOmnipotent omnipotent]] being]] with the power to [[PersonOfMassDestruction destroy entire armies by simply waving his blue hands, hands]], and yet [[BystanderSyndrome he is apathetic towards the human race]]. He has the power to make the world a better place, but this power has caused him to lose his humanity and become more and more detached from the human race. For most of the series, he no longer cares about humans; even after he rediscovers the miracle of human life, [[BlueAndOrangeMorality he sees life more in a predictable/unpredictable manner rather than in a good/evil manner,]] and isn't really invested in humanity from a moral viewpoint.
Dr. Manhattan [[SuperpowerLottery
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Many Atheists and Agnostics believe that if God did exist, he wouldn't actually play an active role in human affairs. There is something to say for that viewpoint, considering the lack of fate or control present in our day-to-day lives, and how feasibly a morally good, benevolent person wouldn't just sit and watch while the people he/she cares about suffer. Or one could argue that God doesn't intervene with humanity because ''it'' believes that free will is more important for the human race.
Given Alan Moore's spirituality, he may believe in spiritual forces in our world, but it's highly unlikely that he belives in an authoritarian God that actively controls what we say and do. And his portrayal of Dr. Manhattan doesn't dispute this.
Given Alan Moore's spirituality, he may believe in spiritual forces in our world, but it's highly unlikely that he belives in an authoritarian God that actively controls what we say and do. And his portrayal of Dr. Manhattan doesn't dispute this.
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Many Atheists and Agnostics believe that if God did exist, he wouldn't actually play an active role in human affairs. There is something to say for that viewpoint, considering the lack of fate or control present in our day-to-day lives, and how feasibly a morally good, benevolent person wouldn't just sit and watch while the people he/she cares about suffer. Or one could argue that God doesn't intervene with humanity because ''it'' believes that free will is more important for the human race.
race. Given Alan Moore's spirituality, he may believe in spiritual forces in our world, but it's highly unlikely that he belives in an authoritarian God that actively controls what we say and do. And his portrayal of Dr. Manhattan doesn't dispute this.
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This view is best demonstrated in Chapter 2, where Dr. Manhattan just watches while The Comedian [[MoralEventHorizon guns down his pregnant Vietnamese girlfriend]]. [[HannibalLecture The Comedian tells Dr. Manhattan that if he really wanted to save that woman and her baby,]] then he could have "turned the bullets into mercury, turned the gun into snowflakes or teleported either of them to goddamn Australia". But he didn't, because he no longer cared about the suffering of humanity.
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This view is best demonstrated in Chapter 2, where Dr. Manhattan just watches while The Comedian [[MoralEventHorizon guns down his pregnant Vietnamese girlfriend]]. [[HannibalLecture [[WhatTheHellHero The Comedian tells Dr. Manhattan that if he really wanted to save that woman and her baby,]] then he could have "turned the bullets into mercury, turned the gun into snowflakes or teleported either of them to goddamn Australia". But he didn't, because he no longer cared about the suffering of humanity.
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Many Atheists and Agnostics believe that if God did exist, he wouldn't actually play an active role in human affairs. There is something to say for that viewpoint, considering the lack of fate or control present in our day-to-day lives, and how feasibly a morally good, benevolent person wouldn't just sit and watch while the people he/she cares about suffer. Or one could argue that God doesn't intervene with humanity because ''it''[[hottip:*: God doesn't have a physical form, so God can't have a gender.]][[hottip:*:Unless you are mormon.]] [[hottip:*:Or a member of practically any of the three great monotheistic religions in the civilized world, Judaism included, since we are talking about the Abrahamic God. Furthermore, according to one of those religions, ''He did take a physical form once and it was male...'']] believes that free will is more important for the human race.
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Many Atheists and Agnostics believe that if God did exist, he wouldn't actually play an active role in human affairs. There is something to say for that viewpoint, considering the lack of fate or control present in our day-to-day lives, and how feasibly a morally good, benevolent person wouldn't just sit and watch while the people he/she cares about suffer. Or one could argue that God doesn't intervene with humanity because ''it''[[hottip:*: God doesn't have a physical form, so God can't have a gender.]][[hottip:*:Unless you are mormon.]] [[hottip:*:Or a member of practically any of the three great monotheistic religions in the civilized world, Judaism included, since we are talking about the Abrahamic God. Furthermore, according to one of those religions, ''He did take a physical form once and it was male...'']] ''it'' believes that free will is more important for the human race.
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Dr. Manhattan [[SuperpowerLottery is an omnipotent being]] with the power to destroy entire armies by simply waving his blue hands, and yet [[SomebodyElsesProblem he is apathetic towards the human race]]. He has the power to make the world a better place, but this power has caused him to lose his humanity and become more and more detached from the human race. For most of the series, he no longer cares about humans; even after he rediscovers the miracle of human life, [[BlueAndOrangeMorality he sees life more in a predictable/unpredictable manner rather than in a good/evil manner,]] and isn't really invested in humanity from a moral viewpoint.
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Dr. Manhattan [[SuperpowerLottery is an omnipotent being]] with the power to destroy entire armies by simply waving his blue hands, and yet [[SomebodyElsesProblem [[BystanderSyndrome he is apathetic towards the human race]]. He has the power to make the world a better place, but this power has caused him to lose his humanity and become more and more detached from the human race. For most of the series, he no longer cares about humans; even after he rediscovers the miracle of human life, [[BlueAndOrangeMorality he sees life more in a predictable/unpredictable manner rather than in a good/evil manner,]] and isn't really invested in humanity from a moral viewpoint.
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Many Atheists and Agnostics believe that if God did exist, he wouldn't actually play an active role in human affairs. There is something to say for that viewpoint, considering the lack of fate or control present in our day-to-day lives, and how feasibly a morally good, benevolent person wouldn't just sit and watch while the people he/she cares about suffer. Or one could argue that God doesn't intervene with humanity because ''it''[[hottip:*: God doesn't have a physical form, so God can't have a gender.]][[hottip:*:Unless you are mormon.]] believes that free will is more important for the human race.
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Many Atheists and Agnostics believe that if God did exist, he wouldn't actually play an active role in human affairs. There is something to say for that viewpoint, considering the lack of fate or control present in our day-to-day lives, and how feasibly a morally good, benevolent person wouldn't just sit and watch while the people he/she cares about suffer. Or one could argue that God doesn't intervene with humanity because ''it''[[hottip:*: God doesn't have a physical form, so God can't have a gender.]][[hottip:*:Unless you are mormon.]] [[hottip:*:Or a member of practically any of the three great monotheistic religions in the civilized world, Judaism included, since we are talking about the Abrahamic God. Furthermore, according to one of those religions, ''He did take a physical form once and it was male...'']] believes that free will is more important for the human race.
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Many Atheists and Agnostics believe that if God did exist, he wouldn't actually play an active role in human affairs. {{YMMV}}, of course, but there is something to say for that viewpoint, considering the lack of fate or control present in our day-to-day lives, and how feasibly a morally good, benevolent person wouldn't just sit and watch while the people he/she cares about suffer. Or one could argue that God doesn't intervene with humanity because ''it''[[hottip:*: God doesn't have a physical form, so God can't have a gender.]][[hottip:*:Unless you are mormon.]] believes that free will is more important for the human race.
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Many Atheists and Agnostics believe that if God did exist, he wouldn't actually play an active role in human affairs. {{YMMV}}, of course, but there There is something to say for that viewpoint, considering the lack of fate or control present in our day-to-day lives, and how feasibly a morally good, benevolent person wouldn't just sit and watch while the people he/she cares about suffer. Or one could argue that God doesn't intervene with humanity because ''it''[[hottip:*: God doesn't have a physical form, so God can't have a gender.]][[hottip:*:Unless you are mormon.]] believes that free will is more important for the human race.
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Many Atheists and Agnostics believe that if God did exist, he wouldn't actually play an active role in human affairs. {{YMMV}}, of course, but there is something to say for that viewpoint, considering the lack of fate or control present in our day-to-day lives, and how feasibly a morally good, benevolent person wouldn't just sit and watch while the people he/she cares about suffer. Or one could argue that God doesn't intervene with humanity because ''it''[[hottip:*: God doesn't have a physical form, so God can't have a gender.]] believes that free will is more important for the human race.
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Many Atheists and Agnostics believe that if God did exist, he wouldn't actually play an active role in human affairs. {{YMMV}}, of course, but there is something to say for that viewpoint, considering the lack of fate or control present in our day-to-day lives, and how feasibly a morally good, benevolent person wouldn't just sit and watch while the people he/she cares about suffer. Or one could argue that God doesn't intervene with humanity because ''it''[[hottip:*: God doesn't have a physical form, so God can't have a gender.]][[hottip:*:Unless you are mormon.]] believes that free will is more important for the human race.
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Many Atheists and Agnostics believe that if God did exist, he wouldn't actually play an active role in human affairs. {{YMMV}}, of course, but there is something to say for that viewpoint, considering the lack of fate or control present in our day-to-day lives, and how feasibly a morally good, benevolent person wouldn't just sit and watch while the people he/she cares about suffer. Or one could argue that God doesn't intervene with humanity because ''it''[[hottip:*: God doesn't have a physical form, so God can't have a gender.]] believes that free will is more important for the human race.
Given Alan Moore's spirituality, he may believe in spiritual forces in our world, but it's highly unlikely that he belives in an authoritarian God that actively controls what we say and do. And his portrayal of Dr. Manhattan doesn't dispute this.
Given Alan Moore's spirituality, he may believe in spiritual forces in our world, but it's highly unlikely that he belives in an authoritarian God that actively controls what we say and do. And his portrayal of Dr. Manhattan doesn't dispute this.
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[[Dr. Manhattan represents Alan Moore's view of the Abrahamic God.]]
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[[Dr. Manhattan represents Alan Moore's view of the Abrahamic God.]]
Dr. Manhattan [[SuperpowerLottery is an omnipotent being]] with the power to destroy entire armies by simply waving his blue hands, and yet [[SomebodyElsesProblem he is apathetic towards the human race]]. He has the power to make the world a better place, but this power has caused him to lose his humanity and become more and more detached from the human race. For most of the series, he no longer cares about humans; even after he rediscovers the miracle of human life, [[BlueAndOrangeMorality he sees life more in a predictable/unpredictable manner rather than in a good/evil manner,]] and isn't really invested in humanity from a moral viewpoint.
This view is best demonstrated in Chapter 2, where Dr. Manhattan just watches while The Comedian [[MoralEventHorizon guns down his pregnant Vietnamese girlfriend]]. [[HannibalLecture The Comedian tells Dr. Manhattan that if he really wanted to save that woman and her baby,]] then he could have "turned the bullets into mercury, turned the gun into snowflakes or teleported either of them to goddamn Australia". But he didn't, because he no longer cared about the suffering of humanity.
Basically Dr. Manhattan represented God, and The Comedian gunning down his pregnant girlfriend represented the suffering of humanity.
Dr. Manhattan [[SuperpowerLottery is an omnipotent being]] with the power to destroy entire armies by simply waving his blue hands, and yet [[SomebodyElsesProblem he is apathetic towards the human race]]. He has the power to make the world a better place, but this power has caused him to lose his humanity and become more and more detached from the human race. For most of the series, he no longer cares about humans; even after he rediscovers the miracle of human life, [[BlueAndOrangeMorality he sees life more in a predictable/unpredictable manner rather than in a good/evil manner,]] and isn't really invested in humanity from a moral viewpoint.
This view is best demonstrated in Chapter 2, where Dr. Manhattan just watches while The Comedian [[MoralEventHorizon guns down his pregnant Vietnamese girlfriend]]. [[HannibalLecture The Comedian tells Dr. Manhattan that if he really wanted to save that woman and her baby,]] then he could have "turned the bullets into mercury, turned the gun into snowflakes or teleported either of them to goddamn Australia". But he didn't, because he no longer cared about the suffering of humanity.
Basically Dr. Manhattan represented God, and The Comedian gunning down his pregnant girlfriend represented the suffering of humanity.
