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If a character of the ground-sitter class doesn't grok chairs — not understanding what they're for, perhaps, or adopting a peculiar sitting position in them because they get the idea of what a chair is for but haven't got the practise of using them down — ''and'' the failure to grok carries meaning within the story, ''and'' this motif becomes widely- and consistently-used enough that sufficient examples can be enumerated, then ''perhaps'' the naming of a trope like '''Doesn't Grok Chairs''' could be justified. (Please note the important point that such a hypothetical trope would be focussed on a ''meaningful deviation'' from the universally standard behaviour.)

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If a character of the ground-sitter class doesn't grok chairs — not understanding what they're for, perhaps, or adopting a peculiar sitting position in them because they get the idea of what a chair is for but haven't got the practise of using them down — ''and'' the failure to grok carries meaning within the story, ''and'' this motif becomes widely- and consistently-used enough that sufficient examples can be enumerated, then ''perhaps'' the naming of a trope like '''Doesn't Grok Chairs''' could be justified. (Please note the important point that such a hypothetical trope would be focussed on a ''meaningful deviation'' from the universally standard behaviour.behaviour rather than the universally standard behaviour itself.)
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If a character of the ground-sitter class doesn't grok chairs — not understanding what they're for, perhaps, or adopting a peculiar sitting position in them because they get the idea of what a chair is for but haven't got the practise of using them down — ''and'' the failure to grok carries meaning within the story, ''and'' this motif becomes widely- and consistently-used enough that sufficient examples can be enumerated, then ''perhaps'' the naming of a trope like '''Doesn't Grok Chairs''' could be justified. (Please note the important point that such a hypothetical trope would be focussed on a ''meaningful deviation'' from the universally standard behaviour.)

But this comes under the heading of ''Bridges We'll Cross When And If We Ever Get To Them''. Yes, this is relevant to ''The Gods Must Be Crazy''; but employment in one work does not a trope make.
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This chair is too plain to be a Cool Chair.


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-->'''Example from the now-deleted page "Everyone Is Right Handed" about ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'''''[[note]]If it had some bearing on the plot, then it would be TheSouthPaw.[[/note]]

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-->'''Example from the now-deleted page "Everyone Is Right Handed" about ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'''''[[note]]If it had some bearing on the plot, then it would ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'''''[[note]]which doesn't even have enough meaning to be TheSouthPaw.[[/note]]
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-->'''Example from the now-deleted page "Everyone Is Right Handed" about ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'''''

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-->'''Example from the now-deleted page "Everyone Is Right Handed" about ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'''''
''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'''''[[note]]If it had some bearing on the plot, then it would be TheSouthPaw.[[/note]]
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->''While this has no plot bearing, Nanoha from ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' is left-handed.''
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->''While this has no plot bearing, Nanoha from ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'' ''Lyrical Nanoha'' is left-handed.''
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-->'''Example from the now-deleted page, "Everyone Is Right Handed"'''

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Note that for purposes of this page, it is assumed that all humans ''do'' sit on chairs, making this page itself an example of SmallReferencePools. In RealLife, one of the Basic Anthropological Divides is between people who sit at ground level-- carpet, tatami, cushion, the ground itself-- and people who sit above ground level-- chair, bench, snow-house shelf.
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If you are really, really, ''really'' sure that we need this one, try to connect it to something meaningful (which doesn't necessarily have to be a plot; it can work if the trope counts as NarrativeFiligree or GarnishingTheStory). Or if you can identify several narrative purposes for an element, you can propose it as an index, like SeatedTropes. If not, you just need to accept that [[TropesThatWillNeverHappen/TooUniversal this trope page will never happen.]]

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If you are really, really, ''really'' sure that we need this one, try to connect it to something meaningful (which doesn't necessarily have to be a an element of the plot; it can work if the trope counts as NarrativeFiligree or GarnishingTheStory). Or if you can identify several narrative purposes for an element, you can propose it as an index, like SeatedTropes. If not, you just need to accept that [[TropesThatWillNeverHappen/TooUniversal this trope page will never happen.]]


If you are really, really, ''really'' sure that we need this one, try to connect it to something meaningful (which can work if the trope counts as NarrativeFiligree or GarnishingTheStory). Or if you can identify several narrative purposes for an element, you can propose it as an index, like SeatedTropes. If not, you just need to accept that [[TropesThatWillNeverHappen/TooUniversal this trope page will never happen.]]

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If you are really, really, ''really'' sure that we need this one, try to connect it to something meaningful (which doesn't necessarily have to be a plot; it can work if the trope counts as NarrativeFiligree or GarnishingTheStory). Or if you can identify several narrative purposes for an element, you can propose it as an index, like SeatedTropes. If not, you just need to accept that [[TropesThatWillNeverHappen/TooUniversal this trope page will never happen.]]
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-->--Example from the now-deleted page Everyone Is Right Handed

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Example of a rare PSOC


Conversely, a trope suggestion can still be guilty of People Sit On Chairs even if it doesn't literally appear all the time. Even if it is relatively rare, it can still be used without a narrative purpose.

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Conversely, a trope suggestion can still be guilty of People Sit On Chairs even if it doesn't literally appear all the time. Even if it is relatively rare, it can still be used without a narrative purpose.
purpose. For example, there may be only three works of fiction in which a person walks down a street called Jameson Street, but unless that name has some relevance to the storytelling beyond just being a street name, it is People Sit On Chairs: there is no meaningful pattern or connection between these works.
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If you are really, really, ''really'' sure that we need this one, try to connect it to something meaningful (which can work if the trope counts as NarrativeFiligree or GarnishingTheStory). Or if you can identify several narrative purposes for an element, you can propose it as an index, like SeatedTropes. If not, you just need to accept that [[DarthWiki/TropesThatWillNeverHappen this trope page will never happen.]]

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If you are really, really, ''really'' sure that we need this one, try to connect it to something meaningful (which can work if the trope counts as NarrativeFiligree or GarnishingTheStory). Or if you can identify several narrative purposes for an element, you can propose it as an index, like SeatedTropes. If not, you just need to accept that [[DarthWiki/TropesThatWillNeverHappen [[TropesThatWillNeverHappen/TooUniversal this trope page will never happen.]]



No examples, please. No, really, they're not necessary.

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No examples, [[TropesThatWillNeverHappen/TooUniversal examples]] here, please. No, really, they're not necessary.
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The whole point of a chair, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_890820&feature=iv&src_vid=-2vfxnfWGRA&v=c7SjvLceXgU as Facebook so eloquently explains,]] is to give people something to sit on, but this by itself doesn't convey meaning. On the other hand, there '''are''' ways in which chairs can be used for a trope; perhaps we're talking about an [[CoolChair impossibly awesome-looking chair]] (or a more functional SuperWheelchair); maybe it gets used for a ChairReveal, or for the BigBad to express his SlouchOfVillainy. And maybe the chair is [[EmptyChairMemorial conspicuous by its emptiness]]. All these add some sort of meaning to the "chair" in question, which makes them legitimate tropes.

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The whole point of a chair, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_890820&feature=iv&src_vid=-2vfxnfWGRA&v=c7SjvLceXgU com/watch?v=ujDeS2URgj0 as Facebook so eloquently explains,]] is to give people something to sit on, but this by itself doesn't convey meaning. On the other hand, there '''are''' ways in which chairs can be used for a trope; perhaps we're talking about an [[CoolChair impossibly awesome-looking chair]] (or a more functional SuperWheelchair); maybe it gets used for a ChairReveal, or for the BigBad to express his SlouchOfVillainy. And maybe the chair is [[EmptyChairMemorial conspicuous by its emptiness]]. All these add some sort of meaning to the "chair" in question, which makes them legitimate tropes.
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The index option: List of tropes that involve people sitting on chairs


If you are really, really, ''really'' sure that we need this one, try to connect it to something meaningful (which can work if the trope counts as NarrativeFiligree or GarnishingTheStory). If not, you just need to accept that [[DarthWiki/TropesThatWillNeverHappen this trope page will never happen.]]

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[[caption-width-right:300:'''Tropes''': CoolChair, SlouchOfVillainy, SharpDressedMan, DamnItFeelsGoodToBeAGangster\\
'''Not a trope''': Sitting on a Chair]]

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'''Not a trope''': Sitting on a Chair]]
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If you are really, really, ''really'' sure that we need this one, try to connect it to something meaningful (even (which can work if it's just the trope counts as NarrativeFiligree or GarnishingTheStory). If not, you just need to accept that [[DarthWiki/TropesThatWillNeverHappen this trope page will never happen.]]
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If you are really, really, ''really'' sure that we need this one, try to connect it to something meaningful.meaningful (even if it's just NarrativeFiligree or GarnishingTheStory). If not, you just need to accept that [[DarthWiki/TropesThatWillNeverHappen this trope page will never happen.]]
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'''Not Tropes''': Sitting on a Chair]]

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'''Not Tropes''': a trope''': Sitting on a Chair]]



{{Trope}}s are conventions used in storytelling to convey some sort of information to the audience. People Sit On Chairs don't convey any meaning -- they aren't storytelling conventions at all, they're just things that happen normally or incidentally during the storytelling. So if somebody is calling your YKTTW "Chairs", or PSOC, this means they think your idea is about as meaningful as the discovery that various different shows portray [[TitleDrop people sitting on chairs]]: It doesn't matter how commonly it occurs, this is something that never carried any meaning to begin with, making it Administrivia/NotATrope.

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{{Trope}}s are conventions used in storytelling to convey some sort of information to the audience. People Sit On Chairs don't convey any meaning -- they aren't storytelling conventions at all, they're just things that happen normally or incidentally during the storytelling. So if somebody is calling your YKTTW "Chairs", "Chairs" or PSOC, "PSOC", this means they think your idea is about as meaningful as the discovery that various different shows portray [[TitleDrop people sitting on chairs]]: It doesn't matter how commonly it occurs, this is something that never carried any meaning to begin with, making it Administrivia/NotATrope.
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If you are really, really, ''really'' sure that we need this one, try to connect it to something meaningful. If not, you just need to accept that [[TropesThatWillNeverHappen this trope page will never happen.]]

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If you are really, really, ''really'' sure that we need this one, try to connect it to something meaningful. If not, you just need to accept that [[TropesThatWillNeverHappen [[DarthWiki/TropesThatWillNeverHappen this trope page will never happen.]]
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'''Not Tropes''': A Person Sitting on a Chair]]

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{{Trope}}s are conventions used in storytelling to convey some sort of information to the audience. People Sit On Chairs don't convey any meaning -- they aren't storytelling conventions at all, they're just things that happen normally or incidentally during the storytelling. So if somebody is calling your YKTTW "Chairs", or PSOC, this means they think your idea is about as meaningful as the discovery that various different shows portray [[TitleDrop people sitting on chairs]]: It doesn't matter how commonly it occurs, this is something that never carried any meaning to begin with, making it NotATrope.

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{{Trope}}s are conventions used in storytelling to convey some sort of information to the audience. People Sit On Chairs don't convey any meaning -- they aren't storytelling conventions at all, they're just things that happen normally or incidentally during the storytelling. So if somebody is calling your YKTTW "Chairs", or PSOC, this means they think your idea is about as meaningful as the discovery that various different shows portray [[TitleDrop people sitting on chairs]]: It doesn't matter how commonly it occurs, this is something that never carried any meaning to begin with, making it NotATrope.
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{{Trope}}s are conventions used in storytelling to convey some sort of information to the audience. People Sit On Chairs don't convey any meaning -- they aren't storytelling conventions at all, they're just things that happen normally or incidentally during the storytelling. So if somebody is calling your YKTTW "Chairs", or PSOC, this means they think your idea is about as meaningful as the discovery that various different shows portray [[TitleDrop people sitting on chairs]]: It doesn't matter how commonly it occurs, this is something that never carried any meaning to begin with, making it NotATrope.

The whole point of a chair, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_890820&feature=iv&src_vid=-2vfxnfWGRA&v=c7SjvLceXgU as Facebook so eloquently explains,]] is to give people something to sit on, but this by itself doesn't convey meaning. On the other hand, there '''are''' ways in which chairs can be used for a trope; perhaps we're talking about an [[CoolChair impossibly awesome-looking chair]] (or a more functional SuperWheelchair); maybe it gets used for a ChairReveal, or for the BigBad to express his SlouchOfVillainy. And maybe the chair is [[EmptyChairMemorial conspicuous by its emptiness]]. All these add some sort of meaning to the "chair" in question, which makes them legitimate tropes.

Note that the criticism here isn't simply that the trope in question is "too common" or "too broad", as Administrivia/NoTropeIsTooCommon. There are some extremely common {{cliche}}s, and OmnipresentTropes, that appear in fiction maybe even as frequently as chairs, but these are still storytelling devices. For instance there is TheCouch, another item people sit on, but given a purpose that correlates with [[StandardizedSitcomHousing the visual layout of house floorplans]].

Conversely, a trope suggestion can still be guilty of People Sit On Chairs even if it doesn't literally appear all the time. Even if it is relatively rare, it can still be used without a narrative purpose.

If you are really, really, ''really'' sure that we need this one, try to connect it to something meaningful. If not, you just need to accept that [[TropesThatWillNeverHappen this trope page will never happen.]]

If you're really not sure whether or not your YKTTW is People Sitting On Chairs, try asking "Administrivia/IsThisTropable"

See also {{Consistency}} for the other aspect of defining a trope.

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