History Administrivia / PeopleSitOnChairs

8th Jul '17 5:59:44 PM Specialist290
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[[caption-width-right:350:[-'''Tropes''': SlouchOfVillainy, SharpDressedMan, DarkIsEvil, DamnItFeelsGoodToBeAGangster\\

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[[caption-width-right:350:[-'''Tropes''': {{Chiaroscuro}}, SlouchOfVillainy, SharpDressedMan, DarkIsEvil, DamnItFeelsGoodToBeAGangster\\
25th Jun '17 3:15:20 AM eroock
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Note that for purposes of this page, it is assumed that all humans ''do'' sit on chairs, making this page itself an example of SmallReferencePools. In RealLife, one of the Basic Anthropological Divides is between people who sit at ground level-- carpet, tatami, cushion, the ground itself-- and people who sit above ground level-- chair, bench, snow-house shelf. If a character of the ground-sitter class doesn't grok chairs not understanding what they're for, perhaps, or adopting a peculiar sitting position in them because they get the idea of what a chair is for but haven't got the practise of using them down and the failure to grok carries meaning within the story, ''and'' this motif becomes widely- and consistently-used enough that sufficient examples can be enumerated, then ''perhaps'' the naming of a trope like '''Doesn't Grok Chairs''' could be justified. (Please note the important point that such a hypothetical trope would be focussed on a ''meaningful deviation'' from the universally standard behaviour rather than the universally standard behaviour itself.)



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Note that for purposes of this page, it is assumed that all humans ''do'' sit on chairs, making this page itself an example of SmallReferencePools. In RealLife, one of the Basic Anthropological Divides is between people who sit at ground level-- carpet, tatami, cushion, the ground itself-- and people who sit above ground level-- chair, bench, snow-house shelf.

If a character of the ground-sitter class doesn't grok chairs not understanding what they're for, perhaps, or adopting a peculiar sitting position in them because they get the idea of what a chair is for but haven't got the practise of using them down and the failure to grok carries meaning within the story, ''and'' this motif becomes widely- and consistently-used enough that sufficient examples can be enumerated, then ''perhaps'' the naming of a trope like '''Doesn't Grok Chairs''' could be justified. (Please note the important point that such a hypothetical trope would be focussed on a ''meaningful deviation'' from the universally standard behaviour rather than the universally standard behaviour itself.)

But this comes under the heading of ''Bridges We'll Cross When And If We Ever Get To Them''. Yes, this is relevant to ''The Gods Must Be Crazy''; but employment in one work does not a trope make.
26th Feb '17 9:15:36 AM LupoCani
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If a character of the ground-sitter class doesn't grok chairs not understanding what they're for, perhaps, or adopting a peculiar sitting position in them because they get the idea of what a chair is for but haven't got the practise of using them down ''and'' the failure to grok carries meaning within the story, ''and'' this motif becomes widely- and consistently-used enough that sufficient examples can be enumerated, then ''perhaps'' the naming of a trope like '''Doesn't Grok Chairs''' could be justified. (Please note the important point that such a hypothetical trope would be focussed on a ''meaningful deviation'' from the universally standard behaviour rather than the universally standard behaviour itself.)

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If a character of the ground-sitter class doesn't grok chairs not understanding what they're for, perhaps, or adopting a peculiar sitting position in them because they get the idea of what a chair is for but haven't got the practise of using them down ''and'' and the failure to grok carries meaning within the story, ''and'' this motif becomes widely- and consistently-used enough that sufficient examples can be enumerated, then ''perhaps'' the naming of a trope like '''Doesn't Grok Chairs''' could be justified. (Please note the important point that such a hypothetical trope would be focussed on a ''meaningful deviation'' from the universally standard behaviour rather than the universally standard behaviour itself.)
2nd Feb '17 6:58:17 AM Fighteer
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One good sign of a People Sit On Chairs idea is if you can't think of any examples that have [[Administrivia/ZeroContextExample meaningful context]]. PersonalAppearanceTropes in particular are a constant source of this problem, connecting two things that are only coincidentally important or identifying a pattern that has no clear or consistent meaning or purpose. For this reason, [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13545690040A55560100 we've been trying to clean them up]].
20th Aug '16 10:05:15 AM MarkLungo
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->''While this has no plot bearing, Nanoha from ''Lyrical Nanoha'' is left-handed.''
-->'''Example from the now-deleted page "Everyone Is Right Handed" about ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'''''[[note]]which doesn't even have enough meaning to be TheSouthPaw.[[/note]]

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->''While ->''"While this has no plot bearing, Nanoha from ''Lyrical Nanoha'' is left-handed.''
-->'''Example
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-->--'''Example
from the now-deleted page "Everyone Is Right Handed" about ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha'''''[[note]]which doesn't even have enough meaning to be TheSouthPaw.[[/note]]
1st Jul '16 8:01:12 PM Generalcamo
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If you're really not sure whether or not your YKTTW is People Sitting On Chairs, try asking "Administrivia/IsThisTropable"

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If you're really not sure whether or not your YKTTW idea on the Trope Launch Pad is People Sitting On Chairs, try asking "Administrivia/IsThisTropable"
1st Jul '16 7:59:54 PM Generalcamo
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{{Trope}}s are conventions used in storytelling to convey some sort of information to the audience. People Sit On Chairs don't convey any meaning -- they aren't storytelling conventions at all, they're just things that happen normally or incidentally during the storytelling. So if somebody is calling your YKTTW "Chairs" or "PSOC", this means they think your idea is about as meaningful as the discovery that various different shows portray [[TitleDrop people sitting on chairs]]: It doesn't matter how commonly it occurs, this is something that never carried any meaning to begin with, making it Administrivia/NotATrope.

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{{Trope}}s are conventions used in storytelling to convey some sort of information to the audience. People Sit On Chairs don't convey any meaning -- they aren't storytelling conventions at all, they're just things that happen normally or incidentally during the storytelling. So if somebody is calling your YKTTW idea on the Trope Launch Pad "Chairs" or "PSOC", this means they think your idea is about as meaningful as the discovery that various different shows portray [[TitleDrop people sitting on chairs]]: It doesn't matter how commonly it occurs, this is something that never carried any meaning to begin with, making it Administrivia/NotATrope.
20th Feb '16 8:28:50 AM MagBas
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The inverse of this is TooRareToTrope where something just doesn't happen frequently enough to form a pattern that can be described by a trope.
18th Feb '16 2:43:48 PM TimG5
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The inverse of this is TooRareToTrope where something just doesn't happen frequently enough to form a pattern that can be described by a trope.


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The inverse
19th Oct '15 11:02:54 AM KingLyger
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