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Author: Sackett

Sep 14th 2008 at 4:33:42 PM

Hmmm, I've never heard of the term Ladette before, doesn't really make me think of this trope as "lad" makes me think "boyish charm".

First of all, Tomboy can include rude, crude (in a male sense) girls.  It's just that most tomboys aren't.

Think about the difference between Akane and Ukyo- both would be reasonably called tomboys, but Akane is more of the typical tomboyish, gets into fights with boys she likes, kind of tomboy.  Ukyo is over in WholesomeCrossdresser territory, which girls that fit this trope usually are.  Also, Ukyo (like female Ranma) tends to use ruder language.

Burping contests, rudeness, crude comments, poor hygiene, and engaging in drinking contests or poker with the boys is not uncommon and is sort of the next step up.

Don't the Japanese have a term for a tomboy who goes above {{Bokukko}}?

Being sexually aggressive is much rarer and might be considered even one more step up beyond that.  {{Bifauxnen}} covers this, but cuts out the roughneck behavior...

Maybe call it OneOfTheBoys?  Or should that be reserved for the roughneck behavior but without the sexual aggressiveness?

I think we definitely need an over arching Tomboy trope, with links to {{Bokukko}}, {{Tsundere}} (they are a version), FeminineWomenCanCook, {{Bifauxnen}} and whatever tropes come out of this discussion.