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Elmo3000 Since: Jul, 2013
04/01/2022 16:11:26 •••

The Biggest Death Battle: Goku VS Superman

I'm tempted to say that Goku VS Superman is a bad Death Battle, but not for the reasons you might think. I like to complain. I complain a lot. I complain about everything that it is possible to complain about, which it turns out is everything that isn't RollerCoaster Tycoon. But I cannot summon up the energy to go looking for nitpicks in Goku VS Superman. I just can't.

Let's get right to it; it's a special 30 minute episode, the longest fight animation the show has ever done. They got voice actors who actually play Goku and Superman in web series, and they go more in-depth into each character than they've ever done on the show before. It's a real love letter to two of the biggest fictional personalities out there. The battle itself was greatly animated, and although Torrian has outclassed it, it still stands as an entertaining fight that pays homage to so many things from the respective franchises that it's undeniably and undoubtedly a very impressive episode.

As for the outcome, I agree with it, and not even with any sneaky asterisks or niggling doubts of 'Well, technically Goku could have won if-' No. I agree with the outcome. And it's not Ben or Chad's fault that Superman is one of the most ridiculously powerful characters ever created. So please don't yell at them just because they did the research and found that Superman has accomplished the literally impossible. Dude can hear in space.

That may give you a hint as to why I'm tempted to say this is a bad Death Battle. The animation is great, the research is more than sufficient, and the explanation, the music, and the voice acting are all top notch. So what could possibly be bad about it?

Well... the audience. Their reaction, at least.

Goku VS Superman is currently the single most-disliked Death Battle in the series. (Second most-disliked Death Battle: Goku VS Superman Round 2.) Nearly 150,000 people have disliked it. And it just annoys me that a 30 minute, orchestra-backed, 3D animated fight with recognizable voice actors and a clear explanation for the outcome is the one people hate. Death Battle's Magnum Opus is the most-disliked episode.

Even from the point of view of someone who frequently criticizes Death Battle, it annoys me that this is the one that people hated. They make a few mistakes, use some shaky logic? No big deal, forgive and forget. But they decide a Dragon Ball Z character would lose? 40% of their audience are telling them 'You're stupid, you suck, and this is terrible.' What kind of message does that send? What kind of show do these people want Death Battle to be?

For all the flaws the show has, this is the Death Battle that proves to me that when an episode is good, it can be too good for a sizeable chunk of its audience. As in, more than they deserve. It's remarkable and admirable that Ben and Chad are still making them when this is the thanks they get for their biggest episode yet.

marcellX Since: Feb, 2011
07/06/2016 00:00:00

Round 2, I don\'t know. But round 1, I do remember showing that they had gotten big headed about the show. Implying, we do research on this, so what we say is what it is. In perhaps a joke way that seemed a little too genuine. That doesn\'t mean it\'s a good reason to dislike the episode, but at the end of the day, people don\'t really care that much about the battles themselves (that\'s why one minute melee\'s no research makes it enterteining) but the result and it\'s reasoning.

SpectralTime Since: Apr, 2009
07/07/2016 00:00:00

...I pretty much agree with everything, but want to come up with a better way of phrasing it than \"worst episode because it turns out many of the fans are super-biased little turds who just want to see their favorite character win.\"

Elmo3000 Since: Jul, 2013
07/07/2016 00:00:00

Me too, but I also wanted to focus a lot on the actual good points of the episode and not just the fan reaction.

But I also wanted to focus on the feedback dilemma this creates, where Ben and Chad can make an honest to God great episode and people will hate it anyway because their favourite character died.

But I also wanted to say it was possibly the worst because whenever I have complaints about any other Death Battles, I end up mentally comparing myself to the people who complained about this one, so this is the only Death Battle that can actually make me feel bad about myself, albeit through no fault of its own.

But I also wanted to hide the fact that I'm not a very good writer and I really don't know how to structure reviews at all.

So there's that. I changed 'the worst Death Battle' to 'a bad Death Battle' because the former was just too melodramatic though.

SpectralTime Since: Apr, 2009
07/07/2016 00:00:00

Maybe say \"it\'s a Death Battle I have trouble enjoying/have a bad reaction to?\" That seems like what you\'re going for.

marcellX Since: Feb, 2011
07/07/2016 00:00:00

Well, among every and any type of audience, there\'s gonna be the sludge of the trash. If you try and not compare to them, then you wont feel right about disliking almost anything. You can for example, dislike the new Ghostbusters without being mysoginist or original purist. You can disagree with Death Battle without being a whinner over their favorite character losing (despite what many fans of the show would like to imply).

Idiosyncratic Since: Aug, 2020
04/01/2022 00:00:00

I don\'t think I have anything to say other than \"affirmed.\"

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