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A2230 Since: Apr, 2022

Oct 11th 2023 at 2:41:39 PM •••

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They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character:
- Zenkichi has a lot of similarities to Ryotaro Dojima from Persona 4. Both are detectives who lost their wives in a hit and run accident, have strained relationships with their daughters, and Akane looks to be around the same age Nanako would be at this point of the chronology. It's almost like as if Zenkichi and Dojima were going to be the same character early in development. If they weren't, then it begs the question why they didn't just use Dojima if the characters were going to be so similar. If he had, this would have allowed him and Nanako to finally have closure for Chisato's death.

This doesn't feel like it fits under "They Wasted A Perfectly Good Character." At best, it's "Suspiciously Similar Substitute" with a pinch of Fanfic Fuel. I don't see why the fact that Zenkichi and Dojima share a few similarities implies that a character that isn't even in the game was wasted. So... someone please explain?

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Mr-ex777 Since: Apr, 2019

Oct 11th 2023 at 11:09:14 PM •••

Yes, it doesn't. At the best it's an Expy or Suspiciously Similar Substitute. Cut.

A2230 Since: Apr, 2022

Oct 13th 2023 at 3:02:35 AM •••

Consider it done!

YoriIroy Always serious, 'cause someone has to be Since: Mar, 2014

Always serious, 'cause someone has to be

Mar 23rd 2021 at 11:28:27 AM •••

Regarding Broken Base, does the 6 month rule start from when it came out in Japan or overseas?

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Mr-ex777 Since: Apr, 2019

Mar 23rd 2021 at 12:17:02 PM •••

Japanese.

In the English version the game says 1 year, the Japanese version says half a year.

1 year is definitely Qliphoth World and half a year is Qliphoth World and/or Ideal Reality (because both of these happened back to back).

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TaylorHyuuga Since: Jul, 2014

Mar 23rd 2021 at 5:25:17 PM •••

I do believe you misunderstood the question. Broken Base has a rule that all entries must be added six months after release. They are asking if that is six months from the Japanese release date or from the English. They'renot asking about anything in game.

HarpieSiren Since: Jan, 2001

Mar 3rd 2021 at 5:42:51 PM •••

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Strawman Has a Point: Zenkichi is meant to come off as more reasonable during an argument with his daughter Akane, but she ultimately makes a pretty good point about him that the game glosses over. Akane may have been threatened by The Conspiracy, but Akane was right for pointing out that Zenkichi still pinned his wife's murder on the secretary of the man who actually did it, letting him get away with murder and leaving the family of the falsely-accused secretary with guilt and shame over a crime they didn't commit. And all while Zenkichi was covering up the murder of his own wife. Keep in mind that Akane was brainwashed during the argument and was thus portrayed as unreasonable and consumed with rage, but she still rightfully points out her father's role as an accessory to murder who kept quiet only for his own happiness. Granted, Zenkichi does acknowledge he completely messed this up and gets better, but Akane's point about Zenkichi being selfish is still pretty reasonable.

Wasn't the whole point of that plot the fact that Zenkichi was handling it poorly and that he was wrong? I really don't see Akane as a strawman here.


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