History YMMV / Persona5Strikers

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Morgana, like Teddie before him, was found annoying by many due to his borderline creepy obsession with Ann and his tendency to antagonize Ryuji for no real reason. In ''Strikers'', Morgana's crush on Ann is toned down to a PrecociousCrush that he doesn't intend on ever going forward with, and he goes out of his way to do nice things for her with Joker such as finding sweets to surprise her with. As for Ryuji, though Morgana still occasionally teases him, it's nowhere near the level of verbal abuse he heaped on him in the previous game, and they even have several moments where they stick up for each other.

* MagnificentBitch: The [[BitchInSheepsClothing seemingly peppy]] [[spoiler:Kuon Ichinose is actually a [[EvilGenius brilliant AI researcher]] who created Sophia and [[AIIsACrapshoot EMMA]] to better understand and help humanity. Unable to answer Sophia's question on what a human heart is, Ichinose focuses her efforts entirely on EMMA's directive to give all of humanity their desires before handing EMMA to [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Akira Konoe]] for him to spread EMMA's influence in Japan, leading to the creation of Jails and human desires being stolen throughout. Ichinose allies herself with the Phantom Thieves, having them unknowingly keep tabs on EMMA's progress before becoming an obstacle for them as they try to stop EMMA, brainwashing Sophia to turn against the Phantom Thieves and attempting to wipe them out herself. Only failing due to Sophia's bond with the Phantom Thieves overriding her brainwashing, Ichinose is convinced by Sophia to [[HeelFaceTurn turn against]] EMMA, helping them destroy her creation before parting ways with the Phantom Thieves to go on her own journey, asking Sophia to come with her.]]

** Overlaps with ValuesDissonance, [[spoiler:but Akira Konoe's murder of his father. While in either translation he's killed someone and covered it up, he brings up the obvious point that he was almost certainly next, and no one was ever going to help him otherwise. The Thieves don't have a rebuttal to this. Even if Konoe is deep in BlackAndWhiteInsanity when he said that, he has a point that the Phantom Thieves can't save ''every'' person out there in the world and there would be a few that they can't save in time.]]

* MagnificentBastard: The [[BitchInSheepsClothing seemingly peppy]] [[spoiler:Kuon Ichinose is actually a [[EvilGenius brilliant AI researcher]] who created Sophia and [[AIIsACrapshoot EMMA]] to better understand and help humanity. Unable to answer Sophia's question on what a human heart is, Ichinose focuses her efforts entirely on EMMA's directive to give all of humanity their desires before handing EMMA to [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Akira Konoe]] for him to spread EMMA's influence in Japan, leading to the creation of Jails and human desires being stolen throughout. Ichinose allies herself with the Phantom Thieves, having them unknowingly keep tabs on EMMA's progress before becoming an obstacle for them as they try to stop EMMA, brainwashing Sophia to turn against the Phantom Thieves and attempting to wipe them out herself. Only failing due to Sophia's bond with the Phantom Thieves overriding her brainwashing, Ichinose is convinced by Sophia to [[HeelFaceTurn turn against]] EMMA, helping them destroy her creation before parting ways with the Phantom Thieves to go on her own journey, asking Sophia to come with her.]]

*** Akira Konoe [[spoiler: might seem like another HateSink similar to the targets in VideoGame/Persona5, but it turns out that [[AbusiveParents his father was the monster, who hated him to the point that he wanted to kill him and his mother over money]]... to which he responds first by killing his father as a child (note that the Western localization phrases this as a premeditated act while the Japanese dialogue implies it was committed in self-defense after Akira's father immediately turned against him), and then as an adult by instigating most of the events of the game by weaponizing Ichinose's EMMA AI into a vendetta-based application.]]

** Overlaps with ValuesDissonance, but Akira Konoe's murder of his father. While in either translation he's killed someone and covered it up, he brings up the obvious point that he was almost certainly next, and no one was ever going to help him otherwise. The Thieves don't have a rebuttal to this.

* BrokenBase: Due to being concurrently developed with ''[[UpdatedReRelease Royal]]'', ''Strikers'' ironically caused a debate amongst fans, professional reviewers, and even members of this wiki over the game's continuity as a result. One camp argues that ''Strikers'' is canon to vanilla ''VideoGame/Persona5'', since the game never makes any references to the ''Third Semster'', nor does it mention the absent characters such as Akechi, Yoshizawa, and Maruki. Another camp argues that the lack of references, and mentioning of the characters from the ''Third Semster'', doesn't necessarily mean the events of ''Royal'' are non-canon. None of this is helped by the fact that some parts of the English localization, contains substantially different dialogue compared to the original Japanese script which seemingly implies that this games ties more to the [[ContinuityNod continuity]] of ''Royal'' instead of vanilla ''VideoGame/Persona5''.[[note]] Notably in the Japanese dub, during the climax of the game Morgana mentions a palace fusing with reality occurred "Half a year ago," which matches Maruki's palace that did fuse with reality. The English dub however, changes his dialogue to "Last year" presumably alluding to Yaldabaoth.[[/note]] ''VideoGame/Persona5Tactica'', released a few years after ''Strikers'', eventually more or less confirmed that ''Royal'' is the canon timeline, much to the joy to several players in the "Royal is canon" camp, and the irritation to several in the "Vanilla P5 is canon" camp.

* MagnificentBitch: The [[BitchInSheepsClothing seemingly peppy]] [[spoiler:Kuon Ichinose is actually a [[EvilGenius brilliant AI researcher]] who created Sophia and [[AIIsACrapshoot EMMA]] to better understand and help humanity. Unable to answer Sophia's question on what a human heart is, Ichinose focuses her efforts entirely on EMMA's directive to give all of humanity their desires before handing EMMA to [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Akira Konoe]] for him to spread EMMA's influence in Japan, leading to the creation of Jails and human desires being stolen throughout. Ichinose allies herself with the Phantom Thieves, having them unknowingly keep tabs on EMMA's progress before becoming an obstacle for them as they try to stop EMMA, brainwashing Sophia to turn against the Phantom Thieves and attempting to wipe them out herself. Only failing due to Sophia's bond with the Phantom Thieves overriding her brainwashing, Ichinose is convinced by Sophia to [[HeelFaceTurn turn against]] EMMA, helping them destroy her creation before parting ways with the Phantom Thieves to go on her own journey, asking Sophia to come with her.]]

* FanonDiscontinuity: Like the infamous Amagi Inn scene in ''VideoGame/Persona4'', many players like to believe that the HotSpringsEpisode at Kyoto never happened due to the [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale boys being unfairly punished]] [[UnprovokedPervertPayback over a misunderstanding]] and others viewing it as the girls (Makoto in particular) acting [[OutOfCharacterMoment out of character]]. It helps that it's also something of a BigLippedAlligatorMoment lacking any important plot details[[note]]thanks to Zenkichi, whose actions in taking their place under arrest are the only reason they weren't caught in a police ambush ''while recovering from the incident''[[/note]] and which is never touched upon again afterwards.

* MorePopularReplacement: Sophia is considered by some to be a better version of Kasumi Yoshizawa from ''Royal'' when it comes to being a [[spoiler:party member at the final stretch of their respective games. Despite being prominently advertised in ''Royal's'' marketing, Kasumi/Sumire's role in the plot was confined within the Third Semester, with criticisms being directed at how she had little screentime with the Phantom Thieves outside of Joker and how her character arc was quickly overshadowed by that of Maruki's. In contrast, Sophia was involved in the game's plot from the start, which gives ample time for her character to grow and share moments to bond with the Phantom Thieves.]]

* FanonDiscontinuity: Like the infamous Amagi Inn scene in ''VideoGame/Persona4'', many players like to believe that the HotSpringsEpisode at Kyoto never happened due to the [[UnprovokedPervertPayback boys being unfairly punished over a misunderstanding]] and others viewing it as the girls (Makoto in particular) acting [[OutOfCharacterMoment out of character]]. It helps that it's also something of a BigLippedAlligatorMoment lacking any important plot details[[note]]thanks to Zenkichi, whose actions in taking their place under arrest are the only reason they weren't caught in a police ambush ''while recovering from the incident''[[/note]] and which is never touched upon again afterwards.

* BrokenBase: Due to being concurrently developed with ''[[UpdatedReRelease Royal]]'', ''Strikers'' ironically caused a debate amongst fans, professional reviewers, and even members of this wiki over the game’s continuity as a result. One camp argues that ''Strikers'' is canon to vanilla ''VideoGame/Persona5'', since the game never makes any references to the ''Third Semster'', nor does it mention the absent characters such as Akechi, Yoshizawa, and Maruki. Another camp argues that the lack of references, and mentioning of the characters from the ''Third Semster'', doesn't necessarily mean the events of ''Royal'' are non-canon. None of this is helped by the fact that some parts of the English localization, contains substantially different dialogue compared to the original Japanese script which seemingly implies that this games ties more to the [[ContinuityNod continuity]] of ''Royal'' instead of vanilla ''VideoGame/Persona5''.[[note]] Notably in the Japanese dub, during the climax of the game Morgana mentions a palace fusing with reality occurred "Half a year ago," which matches Maruki’s palace that did fused with reality. The English dub however, changes his dialogue to "Last year" presumably alluding to Yaldabaoth.[[/note]] ''VideoGame/Persona5Tactica'', released a few years after ''Strikers'', eventually more or less confirmed that ''Royal'' is the canon timeline, much to the joy to several players in the "Royal is canon" camp, and the irritation to several in the "Vanilla P5 is canon" camp.

* BrokenBase: Due to being concurrently developed with ''[[UpdatedReRelease Royal]]'', ''Strikers'' ironically caused a debate amongst fans, professional reviewers, and even members of this wiki over the game’s continuity as a result. One camp argues that ''Strikers'' is canon to vanilla ''VideoGame/Persona5'', since the game never makes any references to the ''Third Semster'', nor does it mention the absent characters such as Akechi, Yoshizawa, and Maruki. Another camp argues that the lack of references, and mentioning of the characters from the ''Third Semster'', doesn’t necessarily mean the events of ''Royal'' are non-canon. None of this is helped by the fact that some parts of the English localization, contains substantially different dialogue compared to the original Japanese script which seemingly implies that this games ties more into ''Royal'' instead of vanilla ''VideoGame/Persona5''.[[note]] Notably in the Japanese dub, during the climax of the game Morgana mentions a palace fusing with reality occurred “Half a year ago,” which matches Maruki’s palace that fused with reality. The English dub however, changes his dialogue to “Last year” which presumably alludes to Yaldabaoth.[[/note]] ''VideoGame/Persona5Tactica'', released a few years after ''Strikers'', eventually more or less confirmed that ''Royal'' is the canon timeline, much to the joy to several players in the "Royal is canon" camp, and the irritation to several in the "Vanilla P5 is canon" camp.