It could be condensed into a single entry, but I'm in favor. It should mainly focus on how Discord using them as pawns, then declaring them irredeemable for the crimes he was responsible for, made them more sympathetic than intended.
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I very much want the rewrite Ferot proposed on ATT to be listed. It disgusts me that there are no entries sympathising with the villains or calling out the heroes and someone actually had the audacity to state via a Ron the Death Eater entry that people are in the wrong for wanting Discord to have been given some actual form of punishment. This double standard crap makes me almost physically ill. I'm not even joking about that.
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Rewrite approved https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15194292110A03429900&page=27#comment-659 and added.
But I have to ask: why do people sympathize more with Chrysalis, Tirek, and Cozy Glow, and less with Discord?
But ron the death eater means perceiving a character as meaner/more evil than they are in canon. People wanting discord to get a form of harsher punishment may not be ron the death eater but portraying him as worse than the trio whose goals were to conquer equestria for self serving reasons and never had remorse for it. While discord was misguided and was trying to help a friend in his own chaotic way and once called out for it put himself in harms way to make things right is by definition ron the death eater is it not? I've seen characters considered unintentionally unsympathetic and ron the death eater at the same time before on this site.
I'm sorry, but all the tropes here trying to defend Cozy Glow are plain wrong. She willingly teamed up with two of the worst villains Equestria has ever faced and helped them in an attempt to take over the kingdom, and Cozy herself personally attacked Twilight and her friends, including stealing Celestia and Luna's magic. The fact that she's a child is no excuse when she demonstrated throughout the season that she is just as evil as Chrysalis and Tirek
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The entries are not wrong or anything. The entries are simply stating that people, while acknowledging her actions, still feel sympathy for her because of the fact that she is a child as well as the fact that she showed signs of reforming in Frenemies. Unlike Chrysalis or Tirek, she could have easily been put in juvie or a mental asylum until she was cured of her sociopathy. "Feels sorry for them" and "Thinks their punishment was too harsh considering the options" does not = DILP. It's a valid concern. Why wasn't she just placed in a holding area for therapy and mental help instead of turning her to stone? Tirek and Chrysalis are still a threat without the bell as they have magic of their own. Cozy does not. She is {physically, not mentally, but physically) harmless without the bell, so after Chrysalis and Tirek were stoned, she could have been sent to a mental hospital. None of that is inaccurate. The entries were not wrong. Also, they are audience reactions, so thew audience can put them there if they want. If they want to feel a certain way and express it to, that's their right. You aren't allowed to delete it without going to Ask The Tropers. Until you do so, the person giving the reactions, provided the entries do not state anything that is not true, can put them right back in. Go to Ask The Tropers if you think those audience reactions are inaccurate in any way. Remember, it doesn't matter what the character did, it only matters if the entries state anything wrong or if they flat out DIL Ps her. Until than, I will keep them on, and I am quite certain the mods would side with me. Audience reactions are subjective tropes, so it's the burden of the person contesting them to prove the poster is lying about something. Prove the entries are lying or you may get in trouble for edit warring if you try and delete them again. Thank you. Have a good day.
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The commented section said the official release date would April 20, 2020, despite the episode actually being released on October 12, 2019. Should that be changed right now?
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April 5, 2020 is when Broken Base and Base-Breaking Character discussion happens, as there needs to be six months' time for opinions to form and solidify.
The Protomen enhanced my life.
Per ATT https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=93011&type=att#comment-93011, I'm removing the following.
There is insufficent fan consunsus this is the case and the issue is covered under Broken Base. Please discuss and get aproval before adding Unintentionally Sympathetic.
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