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Clara Oswin Oswald is the Jenny from "The Doctor's Daughter." Let's see. Jenny has two hearts, which means that she is a Time Lord, she came back to life after she died, which REALLY makes her a Time Lord (Perhaps Time Lady would be more appropriate.). Then she gets into a spaceship and emarks on an adventure across the whole universe. "Planets to save, civilizations to rescue, creatures to feed! I've got an awful lot of running to do!"

On the other hand, Clara Oswin Oswald has crash-landed on the Dalek Asylum, turns into a Dalek, yet believes that she's still a human imprisoned there. Then the Doctor comes by, responds to her instructions in the hopes of saving her, and discovers a delusional Dalek (or human-turned-Dalek. whatever). Then he proceeds to blow up the planet and escape. Obviously, Clara dies.

But wait! She shows up again in "The Snowmen," in 18th century London! Then an ice-lady pushes her off the clouds and the Doctor arrives in his TARDIS too late. Well, she's still alive, but she eventually dies. Then it starts to rain as the children cry. Then there is her gravestone with her full name, and then the Doctor remembers her. He gets all excited and so on. Then there are two girls there, one who wants to walk through the graveyard...who turns out to be Clara Oswin Oswald!

Then the Doctor tries to look for her everywhere. She even shows up as a child once.

So it's possible that Jenny somehow died (again) and then regenerated into Clara Oswin Oswald, then she turns into a Dalek and dies (again). Then she went to 18th century London somehow, where she eventually dies (again). Then she shows up as a much younger woman years after, crossing through the graveyard with her grave in it. Then she shows up in a playground as a little girl. Remember, a Time Lord's apparent age and appearance can change with each regeneration (example: River Song becoming a toddler, then growing up as Amy's classmate, then regenerating into an older woman. The Doctor himself, who appears as an old man in the very first episode, then his successive reincarnations having different forms, with Eleven looking 21.)

Unreadable, can seomeone fix this?

If you ask me something happened to him at his birth. Which caused his mom not to name him. So inside he goes behind his childhood nickname Theta Sigma. And at some point. He chose to go by the name of The Doctor. When River Song whispered in The Doctors ears. Not his name but told him he doens't have one. And when The Doctor has to answer the question. He will reveal that he doesn't have a name.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

The Cybermen featured in the original series, from Earth's twin planet of Mondas, were never definitively wiped out. A quick handwave about them overcoming their weakness to gold (possibly by studying the alternate universe Cybermen, thus also explaining the Cybus Industries logo on their chest) would make them just as deadly as the new ones (or themselves, pre-Flanderization). It's unlikely, but I'm hoping it's true as I'm a bit sick of all this faffing about with alternate universes.

• This troper would prefer more universe faffing to having the Mondas cybermen essentially overwritten by the Cybus guys, which would be a massive waste of an opportunity.
• Having played the adventure games, their crashed spaceship from 65 million years ago is still in the Antarctic, and the doctor fights some original Cybermen without the Cybus logo, although they do talk the same (after all, that Camp Gay voice had to go!)
• Word of God confirms that the Cybermen in The Pandorica Opens WERE our universes Cybermen and not the Cybus ones. They just did not have the cash to completely redesign the costumes and so kept the "Cybus" logo. Presumably in our universe it just stands for Cybermen

This one is in direct response to Cybermen in a Christmas episode (which can ONLY be The Next Doctor), but here it seems to be talking about series 5. Bit confused.

The Myth (Corporation?), who's logo is on his laptop are the most likely culprits. They're on both his laptop and equipment in the hospital. The Law of Conservation of Detail says that a logo that the team places in multiple places is important. We can also figure this out by the last few Series. Bad Wolf appears all over the place in Series One, placed in those places by the Bad Wolf. Series Two gives us Torchwood, which is also all over. Series Three gave us Mr. Harold Saxon, who turned out to be The Master. Series Four gave us the Doctor Donna and the specials gave us the knocks and Ood. Series 5, however, had nothing recurring outside of the cracks, and they were not a hint at the Big Bad, they were a result of his/their actions. However, we know that the Big Bad is in the first episode of Series 5, but not in the conventional way. This makes Rory, Amy, The Doctor, Jeff, Prisoner Zero, The TARDIS and quite a few more ineligible for the role. The Myth Logo, however, is there.

• Remember, myths are fairy tales.
• Stephen has said "who are the Silence?", and in an interview said that Series 6 was about who "they" are. This means that The Silence are a group.
  • This part, at least, has been Jossed by The Impossible Astronaut. The Silence are an alien species.
  • Maybe they used to be, but, at present, they are no more alien to this planet than you or me. They have been around since the wheel and fire, after all.

This sounds like a sentence fragment. What laptop? What corporation? Who are you referring to? Is this in the DWU or from another franchise?

Are WMG pages supposed to be family friendly? If not, should I move all of my family unfriendly WM Gs to this discussion page, or remove my family unfriendly WM Gs entirely?

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