Useful Notes Romani Discussion

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lakija
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03:10:19 PM Dec 23rd 2013
The Video Game section of this trope seems to be kinda... misused to me. I mean, most of those examples are only assumptions. Is that how this notes page is supposed to go down?
vaslittlecrow
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09:16:40 PM Jun 4th 2013
The article rightly notes that Romani and Irish travelers are separate groups, but then I noticed this under Real Life:

At one time, being "stolen by gypsies" was not a joke, but something that could actually happen. Attractive little girls who either had rich parents to ransom them, or could look like a Heartwarming Orphan to get sympathy when begging, were often the target. The massive hunt for Elsie Paroubek in the spring of 1911 centered on Irish Traveler camps not just because of anti-Gypsy hatred, but because other children really had been kidnapped by them and later recovered.

Would it be appropriate to delete this obvious bit of incorrect information?

CaptEquinox
07:24:11 PM Jan 8th 2016
I will correct it. I have read a lot of source material on Elsie's story and newspaper accounts definitely identify the "gypsies" living in the Chicago area at that time as Rom. They were the ones being investigated for Elsie's kidnapping.
DaibhidC
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02:56:57 PM Oct 16th 2011
Madame Xanadu? aka Nimue, the Ancient British priestess?
71.149.254.77
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04:44:05 PM Apr 12th 2011
edited by huntedbythegeek
I think it would be prudent to change the name of the article to "Romani" because "Roma" only refers to a subgroup who live mainly in Eastern Europe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people#English_usage (take a look at the graphic) http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_feminism/521413.html

(Also I don't quite know if this is the appropriate place to request this change, if not sorry.)
ragmanlebon
04:22:03 AM Nov 26th 2011
I just came to this discussion page to make this exact point.
Looy
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05:12:55 AM Nov 17th 2010
edited by Looy
Why is this page pro-gypsy, shouldn't it be neutral?
Yuval
07:20:48 PM Nov 20th 2010
How the hell is this page pro-Gypsy? Pointing out the myths and prejudice about the Roma does not a biased article make.
TBeholder
07:55:09 AM Nov 23rd 2010
ha, yhbwt.
justwondering
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01:47:26 PM Nov 3rd 2010
Why isn't there a folder for examples from music? Is there a reason I don't know about? The Roma have such an amazing musical heritage, and there are plenty of songs about Roma as well, which only gets glossed over in the article.
TBeholder
08:55:57 AM Nov 10th 2010
That's not "related to...", that's "featuring..." Though there are some. Including at lest one translation of Kipling's verses sung on music.
85.187.42.190
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08:21:15 AM Aug 20th 2010
"First and most insulting, "Gypsies" are usually dishonest: thieves, pickpockets, con-men, trespassers, and all-around tricksters who wouldn't think twice about taking everything you own that isn't nailed down (and a few things that are). "

Yeah, and it's also very very sad when there are quite a few of them who try their best to prove this stereotype true.
89.27.234.193
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08:46:40 AM Aug 15th 2010
edited by 89.27.234.193
It should be added, that the term gypsies was used for members of different ethinic groups. With the roma (and the Sinti) only being the most important and biggest groups. However, while gypsie is certainly always wrong, Roma or Sinti also shouldn't be used for these who aren't either.
BigT
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04:44:47 AM Jul 20th 2010
I'm not sure the Gypsy as depicted in Fiction really is the same thing as the Romany people.
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